and producer who has made films like "Selma," "13th,"

和製片人，曾拍攝過《塞爾瑪》、《13號》等影片。

and "A Wrinkle in Time."

和 "時間的皺紋"。

The fifth season of her show "Queen Sugar"

她的節目 "糖後 "第五季。

airs Tuesdays at 8:00 p.m. on OWN.

每週二晚上8點在OWN上播出。

Here is Ava DuVernay.

這就是艾娃-杜瓦爾內。

-Oh, my good-- -Hey, Jimmy!

-哦，我的天啊...

-Thank you so much for being here.

-謝謝你能來這裡。

Thanks for doing the show.

謝謝你做這個節目。

It is so nice to finally meet you.

很高興終於見到你了。

-I love you.

-我愛你

And I watch you every night.

我每天晚上都會看著你。

You really helped me get through quarantine,

你真的幫我度過了隔離期。

and I just want to say thank you.

我只想說謝謝你。

And I just want -- One day,

我只是想... 有一天

I want you to call me "buddy" or "pal."

我希望你叫我 "哥們 "或 "朋友"。

That's all I want.

這就是我想要的。

-Wow, you really do watch the show.

-哇，你真的很會看戲。

-So I can feel it, you know what I'm saying?

-所以我能感覺到它，你知道我在說什麼嗎？

-You are the best. I love that you know that.

-你是最棒的我喜歡你知道這一點。

You are honestly -- Not only do I love your work,

你是誠實的 -- 我不僅喜歡你的作品。

but I love your work ethic, and I love how much you do.

但我喜歡你的職業道德，我也喜歡你的工作。

And you go, "Yeah, check this out. I'm going to write this."

你去，"是啊，檢查了這一點。我要寫這個。"

And then you write it. Then you produce it.

然後你再寫出來。然後你再製作它。

Then you direct -- I'm like,

然後，你直接 - 我喜歡。

you are one of the busiest people in the business,

你是這行最忙的人之一。

and it's quality stuff.

而且是高質量的東西。

There's something I want to ask you about.

有件事我想問你。

Your company, ARRAY, launched last week.

你的公司，ARRAY，上週啟動。

It is called ARRAY Crew,

它叫ARRAY Crew。

A-R-R-A-Y Crew, C-R-E-W, dot com.

A-R-R-A-Y Crew, C-R-E-W, dot com.

Can you explain what this is, and how can people get involved?

你能不能解釋一下這是什麼，大家怎麼參與？

-Yeah, ARRAY is a collective

-是的，ARRAY是一個集體的。

that I founded about 10 years ago,

我10年前創立的。

and we do all kinds of things.

我們做各種事情。

We distribute films for women and people of color

我們為婦女和有色人種發行電影

who otherwise wouldn't have their films distributed.

否則他們的電影就無法發行。

We make TV shows and film,

我們製作電視節目和電影。

the "When They See Us" and the "Queen Sugars" of the world.

的 "當他們看到我們 "和 "女王糖 "的世界。

But we also know that from being on all these sets,

但我們也知道，從這些套路上。

you know, when we make film and television

你知道，當我們拍電影和電視的時候

that most of the people behind the scenes

大多數幕後人員

kind of all look one way.

樣的都看一個方向。

They look like you more than they look like me.

他們看你比看我還像。

And so what we want to try to say

所以我們想說的是

is both of us should have a place on set.

是我們兩個應該有一個地方的設置。

And we want to open it up and make sure

我們要打開它，確保。

that people who are hiring crews --

僱用船員的人 -

producers, studios, networks --

製片人、製片廠、網絡 -- --

know about people of different cultures, colors,

瞭解不同文化、膚色的人。

different identities, ages, physical abilities.

不同身份、年齡、體能。

The people who usually we don't see, we want them to be seen,

平時我們看不到的人，我們希望他們被看到。

and so that's what ARRAY Crew is.

所以這就是ARRAY Crew。

-That's wild, and it's taking off.

-太狂野了，它正在起飛。

-It's really taking off.

-它真的起飛了

The big thing is, we knew there were crew members there

最重要的是，我們知道有船員在那裡。

who would want to be in the platform, in the database.

誰願意在平臺、數據庫中。

But the question is, could we get the studios

但問題是，我們能不能讓電影製片廠

and the networks to get behind it?

和網絡來支持它？

And when we launched last week,

而當我們上週推出。

every single major studio and network,

每一個主要的工作室和網絡。

every single one, every streamer, committed to use it.

每一個人，每一個人流，都致力於使用它。

And they're using it, and people are getting jobs

他們正在使用它，人們得到了工作。

and getting connected. And that's all we wanted.

並取得聯繫。而這正是我們想要的。

We're a non-profit, so we just wanted people --

我們是一個非營利組織，所以我們只是想讓人們 --

-That's the key. -It's free, you know?

-這就是關鍵-這是免費的，你知道嗎？

It's just connection.

這只是連接。

-Great. I love that you did that. Good for you.

-很好，我喜歡你這麼做我喜歡你這樣做。很好

I want to talk about "Queen Sugar."

我想談談 "糖後"。

This is a show you created and you produced.

這是你創造的節目，也是你製作的。

And the fifth season just premiered,

而第五季剛剛首播。

and it's already been renewed for a sixth.

而且已經續拍到第六部了。

It's very up-to-date, very 2020, very present.

它非常的與時俱進，非常的2020，非常的現在。

You ended up rewriting the whole thing.

你最後把整個事情重寫了。

Tell everyone what's going on.

告訴大家發生了什麼。

-Well, you know, this was the first series I ever did.

-你知道，這是我做的第一個系列。

You know, I was making movies, so I was used to kind of make the movie, and it's over.

你知道，我是拍電影的，所以我習慣了那種拍電影，然後就結束了。

And this is like, make a movie every week,

這就像，每週拍一部電影。

oh, and you're renewed for six years!

哦，你是續簽六年的!

Like, we're still telling the story.

就像，我們還在講故事。

But one of the things about it

但其中有一件事

is that it's about a contemporary Black family.

是關於一個當代黑人家庭。

We always took pride in the fact that we were telling the story

我們一直以自己在講故事為榮。

of Black people in the here and now.

黑人在此時此刻的處境。

And so when the here and now changed

所以當這裡和現在改變

and it was COVID, and it was, you know, politics,

它是COVID，這是，你知道，政治。

and it was, you know, a real racial reckoning

它是，你知道，一個真正的種族清算。

that seemed to be happening in some corners,

這似乎是發生在一些角落。

we wanted to deal with that.

我們想處理這個問題。

And so we changed the story that we had written

所以我們改變了我們寫的故事。

so we could stay true

所以我們可以保持真實

to contemporary stories of Black folk,

到當代黑人民間故事。

and we rewrote the season

我們重寫了這一季

that's basically a flashback to everything in 2020.

這基本上是對2020年一切的回想。

So just, you know, we opened with, it's the month before.

所以，只是，你知道，我們開了，這是一個月前。

It's like February 2020,

這就像2020年2月。

when no one was really tuned in on the fact

當沒有人真正關注到這個事實的時候。

that this was going to be something that affected us,

這將是影響我們的東西。

not just people in other countries.

不僅僅是其他國家的人。

Then we get to March, and it's like "Oh, yeah,

然後我們到了3月，它就像 "哦，是的。

I heard something's happening in Seattle

我聽說西雅圖有事情發生

with old people in a old folks home.

與老人在敬老院。

Not to do with me."

與我無關。"

And then each episode, it starts to really happen

然後每一集，它開始真正的發生

in the way that it happened for most of us

對我們大多數人來說都是如此

where it starts to confront you head-on.

在那裡，它開始與你正面交鋒。

-Yeah. The show is on the OWN network,

-是的是啊。 該節目是在OWN網絡。

which is Oprah Winfrey's Network.

這是奧普拉-溫弗瑞的網絡。

All the Oprah wisdom and advice

所有奧普拉的智慧和建議

that she's given over the years, that I've taken --

她多年來的付出，我已經採取 -

I mean, I do dream journals.

我的意思是，我做夢日記。

Everyone -- Please, she's touched everybody.

每個人... 拜託，她感動了每個人。

Is there anything specific that's always stuck with you?

有什麼具體的事情讓你一直耿耿於懷嗎？

-The idea of nothing bad is happening to you,

-你不會有什麼不好的想法,

it's happening for you. -Wow.

它的發生對你來說。-哇。

-That was really a big one for me.

-這對我來說真是個大問題。

-Is there anything that Oprah would say

-奧普拉會說什麼嗎？

that you've taught her?

你教她的？

-[ Chuckles ]

-[笑聲]

I think I've taught her how to put GIFs on her IG.

我想我已經教會了她如何在她的IG上放GIF。

I've taught her... -No! Did you teach her --

我已經教她...不！ -你有沒有教她...你有沒有教她...

[ Laughs ] You upped her GIF game?

[笑] 你提高了她的GIF遊戲？

-...how to do a Boomerang. Okay, these are important things,

-...如何做一個迴旋鏢。好吧，這些都是重要的事情。

just like it's not happening to you, it's happening for you.

就像它沒有發生在你身上，它發生在你身上。

-I wish you could teach me how to do a Boomerang.

-我希望你能教我如何做一個迴旋鏢。

I want to show everyone a clip

我想給大家看一個片段

from next week's episode of "Queen Sugar."

從下週的 "糖女王 "的情節。

Take a look at this.

看看這個。

-What about getting your crop loan?

-辦理農作物貸款怎麼辦？

Couldn't that help?

能不能幫上忙？

-Banks ain't given loans to no farms right now.

-銀行現在不給農場貸款了。

To be honest, I'm happy we ain't harvest.

說實話，我很高興我們沒有收穫。

It would have went to waste

那就浪費了

like all them other farms throwing out all they product.

就像其他農場一樣，把所有的產品都扔掉。

[ Sighs ]

[嘆氣]

Next year,

明年吧

the soil will be three times as rich.

土壤將是三倍的豐富。

We could recoup everything we didn't make this year,

我們可以把今年沒賺到的錢都收回來。

so I'm -- I'm not worried about that.

所以我... ... 我不擔心這個。

Feel like the land's gon' take care of us.

感覺像土地的坤'照顧我們。

Just got to be patient.

只是要有耐心。

-You have a really beautiful outlook on this.

-你有一個非常美麗的前景。

-[ Chuckles ]

-[笑聲]

I mean, it ain't come easy.

我的意思是，這是不容易的。

We've seen the ups and downs, but,

我們已經看到了起伏，但。

hell, this is where we at.

地獄，這是我們在哪裡。

Guess it is what it is, right?

猜測它是什麼，對不對？

-Ava DuVernay!

-Ava DuVernay!

Season 5 of "Queen Sugar" airs Tuesday nights

第五季《甜心女王》週二晚播出

at 8:00 p.m. on OWN.

晚上8點，在OWN。

Thank you so much again for coming on the show.

再次感謝你來參加節目。

I'm a big fan. Please come back. Bye, buddy.

我是你的粉絲請回來吧再見，夥計。

-Thanks, buddy.

-謝謝你，夥計