There's at Wilson from BYU.

有在威爾遜從BYU。

He played two more games than Lawrence did last year.

他比勞倫斯去年多打了兩場比賽。

He had fewer turnovers.

他的失誤較少。

He also had a higher completion percentage average, more yards per attempt.

他的平均完成率也更高，每次嘗試的碼數更多。

And so again, Matt, this is confusing to me because on a lot of one year and SERC joins the conversation as well, I have people telling me Trevor Lawrence is a generational prospect.

所以，馬特，這又讓我感到困惑，因為在很多一年和SERC也加入了對話，我有人告訴我特雷沃-勞倫斯是一代人的前景。

He's Elway, He's lock.

他是艾爾維，他是鎖。

He's Peyton Manning.

他是佩頓-曼寧。

And on the other side, I'm hearing people say he may not be the best quarterback prospect in this class.

而在另一邊，我聽到有人說他可能不是這屆學生中最好的四分衛人選。

Matt.

馬特

Fill in some blanks for me.

給我填一些空白。

Yeah, you guys, the more that we get into this draft process, the more you talked to evaluators around the NFL.

是啊，你們這些傢伙，我們越是進入這個選秀過程， 你越是和NFL周圍的評估人員交談。

They'll tell you that.

他們會告訴你。

Hey, let's pump the brakes on this Trevor Lawrence kid a little bit because while he has been anointed for the past three years as the future and savior of football, Zach Wilson a lot like Joe Burrow last year really had that ascension in his final year.

嘿，讓我們給特雷沃-勞倫斯這小子踩點剎車吧，因為雖然他在過去三年被譽為足球的未來和救世主，但扎克-威爾遜很像去年的喬-伯羅，真的在最後一年有了這樣的提升。

Things click for him.

事情對他來說，點擊。

You saw the numbers, the 33 touchdowns well, cutting down on his turnovers.

你看到數據了，33次達陣很好，減少了他的失誤。

And the thing you hear from people around the NFL is this name Patrick Mahomes, a player who can work off platform, who can drift from the offensive line that has the arm straight to make up some of those things.

而你從NFL周圍的人那裡聽到的是帕特里克-馬霍姆斯這個名字，他是一個可以在平臺外工作的球員，他可以從進攻線上漂移，他的手臂是直的，可以彌補一些東西。

You know, when I start evaluating quarterbacks, Ah, player like this, we would have said that never works in the NFL because the technique is not there.

你知道，當我開始評估四分衛的時候，像這樣的球員，我們會說，在NFL永遠不會成功，因為技術不在那裡。

The mechanics aren't there.

機制不在那裡。

Forget mechanics.

忘了機械。

When you're a playmaker, when you have arm strength and for Zach Wilson, people look at Kyler Murray.

當你是一個遊戲者，當你有臂力，對於扎克-威爾遜來說，人們看中了凱勒-穆雷。

They look at Patrick Mahomes.

他們看著帕特里克-馬霍姆斯。

They look Aaron Rodgers and say, This is where the NFL's going.

他們看著阿倫-羅傑斯說，這就是NFL的發展方向。

It's no longer the 6 ft six drop back quarterback, and what Wilson did without a great supporting cast around him at BJU has definitely got a lot of people's attention.

這已經不是那個6尺6寸的落後四分衛了，威爾遜在北京大學身邊沒有優秀的配角的情況下，他的所作所為絕對引起了很多人的關注。

So I'm sure a lot of people watching that video who did not see any BYU football this year, the first thought they may have is he looks small on and obviously, Kyler Murray was the first pick in the draft, and he's much smaller.

所以我相信很多看了那個視頻的人，如果今年沒有看過比亞迪的球賽，他們的第一反應可能是他看起來很小上，很明顯，凱勒-穆雷是選秀第一人，他的身材要小很多。

Is that no longer?

那是沒有了嗎？

How big is he?

他有多大？

And is that no longer a concern in the evaluation?

而在評價中是否不再關注這個問題？

You know, we're waiting on official measurement, but he's gonna be under 6 ft three.

你知道，我們正在等待官方測量， 但他會在6英尺3英寸以下。

He's gonna be £210 most likely so bigger than Kyler Murray.

他的身價很可能是210英鎊，所以比凱勒-穆雷還要高。

But let's remember, Patrick Mahomes is not the biggest guy, either.

但我們要記住，帕特里克-馬霍姆斯也不是最大的傢伙。

You know he's 62 to 20 to 25.

你知道他62比20比25。

So I do think that we're starting to see a change there where, you know, back when Ryan was playing all these quarterbacks for 6465 Now it's more about what you can do as a score less than what you are able to do standing in the pocket, being able to survey the field.

是以，我確實認為我們開始看到那裡的變化，你知道，當萊恩為6465玩所有這些四分衛時，現在它更多的是你能做什麼，作為一個得分少，而不是你能夠做什麼站在口袋裡，能夠調查領域。

R C.

R C.

I feel like it's been a while.

我感覺已經有一段時間了。

You and I have been talking about this and you've been saying this kind of thing about Trevor Lawrence to me for well over a year.

你和我一直在談論這個問題 你已經對我說了一年多關於特雷弗-勞倫斯的這種話了。

Well, you know what?

嗯，你知道嗎？

This is what happens, though.

這就是發生的事情，不過。

Matt Miller, He's upcoming star.

馬特-米勒，他是即將到來的明星。

He starts on the show today.

他今天開始上節目。

He comes on.

他上場了。

He says these things about Trevor Lawrence.

他說了特雷弗-勞倫斯的這些話。

Oh, let's put him on.

哦，讓他上吧。

We all love Matt.

我們都愛馬特。

Ryan Clark has been saying it for two years and nobody cares.

萊恩-克拉克已經說了兩年了，沒人在意。

Maybe that's not true, because I just got an extension.

也許這不是真的，因為我剛剛得到了延期。

But I'm just in my feelings.

但我只是在我的感覺。

Listen, I've been saying the same things to you guys for a very long time, and it's not that I don't think Trevor Lawrence is a good quarterback.

聽著，我已經跟你們說了很久同樣的話了 並不是說我不認為特雷沃・勞倫斯是個好四分衛。

I just don't think he's a savior.

我只是不認為他是救世主。

I don't necessarily think he's a can't miss all Pro Hall of Fame level quarterback and some of those things that Mattis saying about Zach Wilson their intriguing right.

我不一定認為他是一個不能錯過的所有職業名人堂級別的四分衛，馬蒂斯說的一些關於扎克-威爾遜的事情，他們很有吸引力。

This is where the game is moving, somebody being able to throw off platform, also watching a guy played not necessarily with the best skill players around him and seeing him elevate those guys.

這就是遊戲的動人之處，有人能夠投出平臺，也是看一個人打的不一定是身邊技術最好的球員，看他提升那些人。

And I don't Maybe it's this purple jacket that I wear and the reasons that I wear.

我也不知道 也許是我穿的這件紫色外套和我穿的原因。

I cannot get out of my mind of Trevor Lawrence walking into the stadium and facing Joe Burrow and being totally outplayed and then I can't get out of my mind the next year doing the same thing against Justin Fields when you are a generational talent when you are a can't miss prospect prospect.

我無法忘記特雷沃-勞倫斯走進球場，面對喬-伯羅，被完全擊敗，然後我無法忘記第二年對賈斯汀-菲爾茲做同樣的事情，當你是一代天才時，你是一個不能錯過的前景前景。

When you're playing with people that are like you, it shows.

當你和和你一樣的人一起玩的時候，就會發現。

We watch the song watching play the Alabama Crimson Tide two times.

我們看歌曲看播放阿拉巴馬深紅潮汐兩遍。

He lost the one time and he won the other time, and both times we saw him.

他一次輸了，另一次贏了，兩次我們都看到了他。

We said to ourselves, He was the best player on the field and it wasn't close.

我們對自己說，他是場上最好的球員，而且還不是很接近。

Trevor Lawrence is not that.

特雷沃-勞倫斯不是那樣的人。

But when you watch Zach Wilson and you think about Mahomes, you think about Josh Allen.

但當你看著扎克-威爾遜，想到馬霍姆斯，你就會想到約什-艾倫。

You think about Aaron Rodgers.

你想想亞倫-羅傑斯。

Some of the arm talent, the things that they have done and how they translate Zach Wilson has some of that.

一些手臂的天賦，他們所做的事情以及他們如何翻譯扎克-威爾遜有一些。

I just don't see teams passing on that, just because of a few critiques that you can nitpick about Zach Wilson, his competition or maybe his size.

我只是沒有看到球隊通過，只是因為一些責備，你可以挑剔扎克-威爾遜，他的競爭，或者可能是他的尺寸。

I'm with you, but they're going to I mean, the number one pick in this draft is gonna be Lawrence.

我同意你的看法，但他們會... ...我是說，這次選秀的頭號人選會是勞倫斯。

I don't think any of us are suggesting otherwise.

我不認為我們任何人都在暗示其他。

And so, Matt, I mean, I just was looking at some notes before we came on the air today.

所以，馬特，我的意思是，我只是在看一些筆記 之前，我們今天來的廣播。

McShay just released his latest make board off his top 32 players in the draft.

麥帥剛剛公佈了他最新的使板，脫掉了他在選秀中的前32名球員。

He has trouble Lawrence member board.

他有麻煩勞倫斯成員董事會。

He still ranks him as the number one player in this draft.

他仍然把他列為這次選秀的第一號選手。

So, Matt, let's make it clear we're not suggesting unless you are, that that is no longer the case.

所以，馬特，讓我們說明一下，我們並不是在暗示，除非你是，那就不再是這樣了。

Most teams still think he's the best player, right?

大多數球隊還是認為他是最好的球員，對吧？

Yeah, the consensus is still Trevor Lawrence, and it's It's hard, though, for people to buck this trend off.

是啊，大家的共識還是特雷沃-勞倫斯，雖然人們很難逆勢而上。

There's a lot of group think there was group Think when Mitchell Travesty was the first quarterback drafted.

當米切爾-特拉維斯蒂是第一個被選中的四分衛時，有很多人認為有群思。

Everyone in the NFL told you, that's the guy.

NFL的每個人都告訴你，就是這個人。

Everyone, Everyone thought that except for Andy Reid in the Kansas City Chiefs.

每個人，每個人都這麼認為，除了堪薩斯城酋長隊的安迪-裡德。

So I think it's okay to break away from the groupthink black Ryan's been saying for two years and say, Well, okay, why is Trevor Lawrence the greatest quarterback since Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning?

所以我覺得可以擺脫黑人萊恩兩年來的群體思維，說，好吧，為什麼特雷沃-勞倫斯是安德魯-勒克或佩頓-曼寧之後最偉大的四分衛？

But you're right, Green.

但你是對的，格林

He will be the first pick.

他將是第一人選。

I'm sorry your New York Jets will not be getting Trevor Lawrence, but I think what we're saying is the guy that you're likely to get Zach Wilson is a pretty good consolation price.

我很抱歉你的紐約噴氣機隊不會得到特雷沃-勞倫斯，但我認為我們要說的是，你有可能得到扎克-威爾遜的傢伙是一個相當不錯的安慰價。

Maybe not even a consolation prize.

也許連個安慰獎都沒有。

He might be the guy you actually want given what that roster has, like like Ryan said someone who elevates the talent around him.

他可能是你真正想要的人，考慮到那個花名冊的情況，就像Ryan說的那樣，有人能提升他周圍的天賦。

I've seen Zach Wilson play with guys who might not be NFL players.

我見過Zach Wilson和那些可能不是NFL球員的人一起打球。

I've also watched Trevor Lawrence throw the first rounders at wide receiver with first rounders at running back.

我也看過特雷沃-勞倫斯在外接手與跑衛位置上投出的首輪秀。

So I do like those guys.

所以我確實喜歡這些人。

You've had a little bit of adversity in your life.

你的人生有一點逆境。

You got a little bit of a chip on your shoulder.

你的肩膀上有一個小芯片。

That Zach Wilson.

那個Zach Wilson

It might rub some people the wrong way, but there's definitely that fire to his game where he's gonna throw that headband on and he will do whatever it takes to make place.

這可能會讓一些人感到不舒服，但他的比賽肯定有那種火氣，他要把那個頭帶扔上去，他將不惜一切代價來取得地方。

He's gonna bust out of the framework of your offense.

他要從你的進攻框架中解脫出來。

He's gonna throw 50 50 balls that have you holding your breath.

他要投出50個讓你屏住呼吸的球

But it is exciting.

但它是令人興奮的。

Let me ask you one more thing.

讓我再問你一件事。

And again, we look forward to doing this regularly with you Here, Matt, give me a number in the first round by which all five of those quarterbacks we're gonna go.

再次，我們期待著定期和你一起做這件事 給，馬特，給我一個第一輪的號碼，這五個四分衛我們都要去。

There are five high first round picks.

有五個高位首輪選秀權。

What is the number in the draft that the fifth one will go off the board?

在選秀中，第五個會脫穎而出的數字是多少？

15.

15.

The new England Patriots in their 15 with Mac Jones from Alabama.

新英格蘭愛國者隊的15人中有來自阿拉巴馬州的麥克-瓊斯。

We know Belichick loves to call Nick Saban and ask about players, and he's gonna get a great recommendation on Mac Jones.

我們知道Belichick喜歡給Nick Saban打電話詢問球員的情況，他會得到Mac Jones的強力推薦。

So if they don't get Jimmy Garoppolo or Marcus Mariota, Mac Jones is staring them right in the face.

所以如果他們得不到Jimmy Garoppolo或者Marcus Mariota Mac Jones就會盯著他們的臉了

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