Several champ Tom Brady was a new Murano on that list Brady, followed by Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Tiger Woods and Serena Williams.

幾位冠軍湯姆-布雷迪是該名單上的新穆拉諾-布雷迪，其次是邁克爾-喬丹、韋恩-格雷茨基、老虎-伍茲和塞雷娜-威廉姆斯。

We bring in two time Super Bowl champ Damien Woody to the conversation.

我們請來了兩屆超級碗冠軍達米安-伍迪來對話。

Damien.

達米安

Top of the morning to you, sir.

早上好，先生

I will get to you in just a moment, but I need to start with Max Kellerman first.

我一會兒就會跟你說，但我要先從Max Kellerman開始。

Because, Max, I understand you're not really a fan of this list.

因為 Max 我知道你並不喜歡這份名單

So could you please give me your top five goats?

所以，請你給我你的前五隻羊好嗎？

That is an awful list.

這是一個可怕的名單。

Oh NFL dot com Put Tom Brady number one.

哦，NFL點com把湯姆-布雷迪放在第一。

That's a shocker in off list.

這是一個震驚的關單。

Let me give you the rial list and give me a second here.

讓我給你的里亞爾名單，在這裡給我一秒鐘。

Let me give you my explanations.

讓我給你解釋一下。

Number ones.

數一數二。

Michael Jordan.

邁克爾-喬丹。

Michael Jordan is the greatest athlete of all time.

邁克爾-喬丹是有史以來最偉大的運動員。

I think everyone knows that if the fate of the universe was on the line and and everyone around the world have to take a vote, who do you give the ball to at the end?

我想大家都知道，如果宇宙的命運岌岌可危，全世界的人都要投票，最後你會把球交給誰？

Any sport everyone's giving it to Michael Jordan is gonna win that in a landslide.

任何一項運動，大家都把它交給邁克爾-喬丹，都會以壓倒性的優勢贏得比賽。

He's number one.

他是第一。

He spent 10 years as the best player in the world with six and six for six with six chaos and championships.

他用了10年的時間，以6個和6個混沌和冠軍的成績成為世界上最好的球員。

Babe Ruth is number two.

貝比-魯斯是第二號。

I know he played a million years ago, but guys, he was not only the best hitter and player in the league for more than 10 years every single year.

我知道他打了一百萬年，但夥計們，他不僅是聯盟中最好的擊球手和球員，每一年都有超過10年的時間。

He was also one of the greatest pitchers of all time and not just one of the greatest pitchers of all time in the regular season.

他也是有史以來最偉大的投手之一，而不僅僅是常規賽中最偉大的投手之一。

He was one of the greatest postseason pitchers off all time.

他是史上最偉大的季後賽投手之一。

He was like Barry Bonds and Sandy Koufax in one player, and he did it forever.

他就像巴里-邦茲和桑迪-庫法克斯在一個球員身上，他永遠做到了。

He's number two.

他是二號人物

Number three.

第三個。

Mohammed Ali.

Mohammed Ali.

Not the best pound for pound fighter ever.

不是最好的重拳手。

But guys, no one else on this list has to do a pound for pound.

但各位，這個榜單上沒有人要做一斤一兩。

You know Tom Brady doesn't get to play.

你知道湯姆-布雷迪不能上場比賽。

Doesn't have to worry about being compared to small quarterbacks.

不用擔心被小四分衛比下去。

All the Doug Flutie oh playing is only Oh, my God.

所有的道格-弗魯蒂哦玩只是哦，我的上帝。

Doug Flutie is the best 5 ft six quarterbacks, so he's better than Tom Brady.

道格-弗魯蒂是最好的5英尺6英寸的四分衛，所以他比湯姆-布雷迪更好。

No, no, Mohammed Ali would have like Sugar Ray Robinson's the greatest ever Hollywood have beaten the hell out of him.

不，不，穆罕默德-阿里會像糖-雷-羅賓遜一樣成為好萊塢有史以來最偉大的人物，把他打得落花流水。

He's bigger, not his fault.

他是大個子，不是他的錯。

He competes in a sport that stratified according Toa weight and discounts him.

他參加的運動，根據託亞體重分層，給他打折扣。

Somehow.

不知為何。

He was also the best in the world for a very long period of time and hit the highest tights.

他也是世界上最好的，在很長一段時間裡，打出了最高的高度。

Serena Williams.

Serena Williams

Look, don't tell me.

聽著，不要告訴我。

Margaret Court and all that 23 Grand Slam championships in the modern era hit the highest peak.

瑪格麗特-考特和所有的23個大滿貫冠軍在現代打出了最高峰。

Spent almost the most time at number one of anyone ever, ever with the highest peak.

在第一的時間幾乎是有史以來最多的，有史以來最高峰。

She's the greatest now.

她現在是最棒的。

Tom Brady.

湯姆・布雷迪。

He's on the list.

他在名單上

That's amazing.

太神奇了

You know why?

你知道為什麼嗎？

It's amazing, because for career accomplishment, he's definitely on the list and his peak was among the best ever.

這很神奇，因為要論職業生涯的成就，他絕對是榜上有名的，他的巔峰期是史上最好的。

How many years, unlike everyone else on this list, was Tom Brady.

多少年了，與這個名單上的其他人不同，湯姆-布雷迪。

Did we look, that's the best player in football.

我們看了嗎，那是足球界最好的球員。

There were some, but there were many years where we thought Peyton Manning was better.

有一些，但有很多年，我們認為佩頓-曼寧更好。

For good reason.

理由很充分。

Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes.

亞倫-羅傑斯 帕特里克-馬霍姆斯

I think to be high up number one on the list, you not only need the career accomplishments which everyone on this list has, but you need to have peaks where people said consistently, that's the best in the world.

我覺得要想高居榜單第一，你不僅要有這個榜單上每個人都有的事業成就，還需要有人們一致說的高峰，那是世界上最好的。

By the way, Tiger done belong on that list, either.

順便說一句，老虎做也不屬於這個名單。

Jack Nicklaus won more majors and finished 2nd and 3rd more often than Tiger Woods.

傑克-尼克勞斯贏得的大滿貫賽次數和獲得第2、3名的次數都比泰格-伍茲多。

So that's the realist.

所以這就是現實主義者。

Go ahead, guys.

來吧，夥計們。

Well, let me say this to you.

好吧，讓我來告訴你。

I appreciate where you're coming from.

我很欣賞你的想法

Um, Babe Ruth is not on my list.

嗯，貝比魯斯不在我的名單上。

And the reason why he's not on my list is because I don't recall him playing against black players.

而他之所以不在我的名單上，是因為我不記得他對黑人球員的比賽。

Am I missing something that's not his fault?

我是不是錯過了什麼不是他的錯？

I understand.

我明白了。

I understand that's not his fault.

我明白這不是他的錯。

But the level of competition that you're forced to go up against does have some relevance when we're talking about the greatest of all time and if you're gonna ostracized a race of people.

但是，當我們談論有史以來最偉大的人，如果你要排斥一個種族的人，你被迫去對抗的競爭水準確實有一些相關性。

Uh, particularly when they had some of the greatest players that ever played this game and you omit them from from from competition.

特別是當他們有一些有史以來最偉大的球員打這場比賽時，你卻把他們從比賽中省略掉。

It's hard for me to put Babe Ruth on that list, even though some people tried to.

我很難把貝比-魯斯放在那個名單上，儘管有些人試圖這樣做。

Even so, some people tried to say he actually tried to help black players ultimately get included into sport.

即便如此，有人試圖說他其實是想幫助黑人球員最終融入體育。

I don't know how true and that way he was part black.

我不知道是怎麼個真法，這樣一來，他就有一部分是黑人。

That's also their scholarship on that.

這也是他們的學問所在。

Exactly so I mean, it is what it is.

正是如此，我的意思是，它是什麼。

But what did he played from 1914 to 1935?

但從1914年到1935年，他玩的是什麼？

Now I'm not going for that.

現在我不打算這樣做了。

I will tell you that.

我會告訴你的。

Even though you know how much I love MJ, six time NBA champion, six time NBA Finals M v p.

儘管你知道我有多愛MJ，六屆NBA冠軍，六屆NBA總決賽M v p。

Undefeated in championship competition.

冠軍賽中不敗。

I would still have MJ is number two on my list because I'm not putting anybody ahead of Mohammed Ali because I take into account the level of adversity you have to face in pursuit of your excellence.

我仍然會讓MJ在我的名單上排名第二，因為我沒有把任何人放在穆罕默德-阿里之前，因為我考慮到你在追求卓越時必須面對的逆境程度。

And when I think about it from that perspective, that's why I put Ali over over, Ah, Michael Jordan Ali getting denied the opportunity to fight for years, getting stripped to the heavyweight crown because of his refusal, uh, to enter the Army because you don't want to participate in the Vietnam War in all of this other stuff and him being a member of the Nation of Islam and some of the adversity that that created and being stripped of his title not being allowed to fight and then coming back after losing the Joe Frazier and ultimately coming back to avenge that loss and then beating George Foreman, George Foreman was Mike Tyson before there was Mike Tyson, where we understand how vicious and and menacing it was.

當我從這個角度去想的時候，這就是為什麼我把阿里放在上面，啊，邁克爾-喬丹-阿里被剝奪了多年的比賽機會，被剝奪了重量級皇冠，因為他的拒絕，呃。進入軍隊，因為你不想參加越戰 在所有這些其他的東西和他是一個成員的伊斯蘭民族和一些逆境，創造和被剝奪了他的標題不被允許打，然後回來後，失去了喬弗雷澤和最終回來報仇的損失，然後擊敗喬治福爾曼，喬治福爾曼是邁克泰森之前，有邁克泰森，我們在那裡瞭解如何惡性和和威脅它。

I tell you a personal story.

我給你講一個個人故事。

Max and and Diamond, Damien and Molly, my father, God rest his soul, was the biggest Ali fan ever.

Max和Diamond，Damien和Molly，我的父親，上帝讓他的靈魂安息，是阿里最大的粉絲。

My father cried before the fight because he was scared.

我父親在比賽前哭了，因為他害怕。

Mohammed Ali was going to die.

穆罕默德-阿里就要死了。

That's how Minister that's.

這就是部長的做法。

That's how medicine you noticed.

這就是藥你注意到的方式。

That's how menacing George Foreman Waas.

這就是喬治-福爾曼-華斯的威脅性。

He was so scary they thought Ali was going to die.

他太可怕了，他們以為阿里會死。

And he was crying before the fight because he was scared that that would be the last time we saw Mohammed Ali alive.

他在比賽前哭了，因為他害怕那將是我們最後一次看到穆罕默德-阿里活著。

So I got Ali at number one.

所以我把阿里排在了第一。

I got MJ at number two.

我把MJ排在第二位

I have the great Serena Williams at number three.

我把偉大的塞雷娜-威廉姆斯排在第三位。

Let me tell you who I put it.

讓我告訴你我把它放在誰身上。

Number four.

四號

I have to put Bill Russell.

我必須把比爾-羅素。

I'm sorry to stay in the sport of basketball.

我很抱歉留在籃球運動中。

11 time champion in 13 years.

13年11次冠軍。

Oh, by the way, two of those titles he won not just a ZA player, but a player coach in Boston, Massachusetts.

哦，對了，其中有兩個冠軍，他獲得的不僅僅是一個ZA球員，而是馬薩諸塞州波士頓的球員教練。

This man was coaching and playing and leading Folkestone MBA championship.

此人曾執教打球，帶領福克斯通MBA奪冠。

This man is still scarred to this very day at some of the vitriol that was aimed in his direction when he was leading them to championships.

這個人在帶領他們奪冠的時候，對他的一些惡語相向，至今仍是傷痕累累。

And still, he led them the championships as a player and as a player coach.

而且他還是以球員和球員教練的身份帶領他們獲得了冠軍。

That is phenomenal.

這是驚人的。

And last but not least, would be Tom Brady because of what Tom Brady just accomplished.

最後但並非最不重要的，將是湯姆-布雷迪，因為湯姆-布雷迪剛剛完成的任務。

So my lead would be my five would be Alley M J Serena Williams, Bill Russell, Tom Brady.

所以我的領先優勢是我的五個人是Alley M J Serena Williams Bill Russell Tom Brady。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

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訂閱ESPN，加。