Kate.

凱特

Appreciate you taking the time, man.

謝謝你花時間，夥計。

I appreciate you coming.

我很感激你的到來。

Still water?

還是水？

Of course.

當然了

Yeah, it's been a minute.

是啊，已經有一分鐘了。

It's been five or six years.

已經五六年了。

So I guess we've seen the heroic shots.

所以我想我們已經看到了英雄的鏡頭。

There's probably my favorite sequence from you of the year.

這可能是我今年最喜歡的你的序列。

Um, just because this is not something where you need the ball in your hands, you need a is a step back high ball screen.

嗯，就因為這不是你需要球在你手中的東西，你需要一個是後撤步的高球螢幕。

Any of that?

有嗎？

Just making a play.

只是做個遊戲。

Take me through this one.

帶我去看看這個。

Yeah.

是啊。

So they ran.

所以他們跑了。

They ran a four across.

他們跑了一個四橫。

Um uh, you know, usually that's all they're gonna be some type of high ball screen or a drive somewhere.

嗯，呃，你知道，通常這是所有他們會是一些類型的高球螢幕或驅動器的地方。

So I saw 13.

所以我看到了13。

He kind of cleared out, and I figured I saw, you know, zero going immediately.

他種清除了，我想我看到，你知道，零去立即。

So I figured, you know, that was a dummy action and kind of just stayed to help at the realm.

所以我想，你知道，那是一個假動作，有點只是留在境界上幫忙。

And I was the, you know, the biggest guy out there on the on the so out for us at the time, So just staying to help out on the rim.

我是，你知道，最大的傢伙在那裡 在上的所以出來為我們的時間， 所以只是留在幫助了籃板。

Avery made a good play trying to get back under the ball and and get his hands on it before he got it up.

艾弗裡做了一個很好的遊戲，試圖回到球下，並在他得到它之前得到他的手。

And then, yeah, just trying to stay vertical and make him shoot into my hands.

然後，是的，只是想保持垂直，讓他射到我手裡。

Yeah.

是啊。

So false action Thio get you running with an Aruna, right?

所以假動作提歐讓你和阿魯納一起跑，對嗎？

And then, really, it's Marcus Garrett.

然後，真的，是馬庫斯-加內特。

Just want to get downhill on den the length of verticality.

只是想在書房垂直度的長度上下功夫。

I mean, those are those days is a big man, right?

我的意思是，那些日子是一個大男人，對不對？

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

是的，肯定的，肯定的。

Anytime.

任何時候。

You know, the do with the ball.

你知道，用球做的。

He can't see you after that.

之後他就看不到你了。

Every made a good play in front of them.

在他們面前，每一個人都做出了好戲。

He can't see this help coming.

他看不到這個幫助的到來。

And, you know, that's that's a free block.

而且，你知道，這是... ...這是一個免費的塊。

Almost.

差不多了

And then having the understanding of, like, locating your teammate and there's the football, gotta watch your feet before that.

然後有了解的，比如，定位你的隊友，還有就是足球，在這之前得注意你的腳。

Some, you know, they like to call the out of bounds.

有些人，你知道，他們喜歡叫出界。

Oh, you thought they might have called you here?

哦，你以為他們會叫你來這裡？

No, I was, You know, just trying to make sure you stay in, watch your feet before you jump.

不，我只是，你知道，你只是想確保你呆在裡面，在你跳之前注意你的腳。

Yep, and then find it.

是的，然後找到它。

And then again, that's that's a game winning playwright there.

再來，那就是那是一個遊戲贏家的戲子了。

Big time passed by one big time.

大時間通過一個大時間。

And that's not something you always see for usually number one picks.

而這對於通常的頭號選手來說，並不是經常能看到的。

It's like motor, you know, like the question.

就像馬達，你知道，就像問題。

A lot of those things, winning and tangible sometimes because talent is so crazy.

很多東西，贏了，有時候也是實實在在的，因為人才太瘋狂了。

It's not that case with you.

你不是這種情況。

Um, I'm I played on a lot of good teams and and with a lot of good players, But I think the biggest thing about it is, you know, I play with Scotty Barnes and they run and those two dudes that are like Crazy Motors and I feel like, you know, seeing guys like that.

嗯，我... ...我在很多好球隊打過球，和很多好球員在一起，但我認為最大的事情是，你知道，我和Scotty Barnes一起打球，他們跑，那兩個傢伙就像瘋狂的汽車，我覺得，你知道，看到這樣的傢伙。

No, motor something, it's it's all with you.

不，電機的東西，它是它的所有與你。

Like it takes no time to have that and then affects winning so anytime.

像不需要時間就能擁有，然後影響勝利，所以隨時。

You know, if I'm one of better players and I'm not having a motor, you know what they're you know, my teammates gonna think what?

你知道，如果我是一個更好的球員，我沒有一個電機，你知道他們是什麼... ...你知道，我的隊友會怎麼想？

They're not gonna take too much importance to us.

他們不會對我們太重視。

So anytime I could help my team with that, that's what I would do.

所以，只要能幫助我的團隊，那就是我願意做的。

Yeah, no question.

是的，沒有問題。

And you could definitely see it.

而且你肯定能看到它。

So All right, that's offense.

所以，好吧，這就是進攻。

We're gonna rip through defense quickly and get you out of here.

我們要迅速突破防線，把你救出去。

But how do you think?

但你怎麼看？

How would you grade yourself defensively so far?

到目前為止，你會如何給自己的防守打分？

this year.

今年，。

I think I've had some A's and I think I've had some S o.

我想我已經有了一些A，我想我已經有了一些S O。

I think I've been It's been a rollercoaster for me defensively, I think just, you know, on the ball stand like that the whole time.

我想我的防守對我來說就像雲霄飛車一樣，我想，你知道，一直都是這樣站在球上。

I think over help a little bit too much sometimes, and that's been probably the biggest problem for me.

我覺得有時候過度幫助有點多，這可能是我最大的問題。

So when you guys are a man, you're no middle team.

所以當你們是一個人的時候，你們就不是中隊了。

Is that you're trying to find a middle middle, every close out every angle, trying to funnel the ball to the rim?

就是你想找一箇中鋒，每一個近距離的每一個角度，都想把球漏到籃板上？

Yeah, pretty much any time we can push the baseline.

是啊，幾乎任何時候我們都可以推動基線。

So we're gonna dio so one thing.

所以，我們要去dio所以一件事。

Okay, let's see.

好吧，讓我們來看看。

And I would agree with you.

我也同意你的說法。

You've had some moments where it's like this guy could be in all MBA defender and then some moments where, you know, maybe could ramp it up a little bit.

你有一些時刻，它就像這個傢伙可以在所有的MBA後衛，然後一些時刻，你知道，也許可以加大一點力度。

One thing I'll say is your so long like I think you can be more active with your hands to get deflections.

有一點我要說的是你這麼長的樣子，我覺得你可以用手更主動的去獲取偏移。

Is that something you've noticed?

這一點你注意到了嗎？

Yeah, definitely.

是的，絕對的。

And I think, like what do you see here?

我想，就像你在這裡看到了什麼？

Yeah, Anytime he's that high, he's in passing mode.

是啊，只要他在那麼高的地方，他就會進入傳球模式。

So he was.

所以他是。

He wasn't gonna beat me off the dribble.

他不會在運球時打敗我的。

I think, you know, getting up and making it tough on him.

我想，你知道，站起來，讓他難受。

Make it past.

讓它過去。

Allow my teammates to deny a little bit easier.

讓我的隊友更容易否認一點。

I definitely would help us.

我一定會幫助我們。

Yeah, I know that.

是的，我知道。

You know, it's not on you that he got back, but I think you could be really effective, you know, with your length for sure.

你知道，這不是在你身上，他回來了， 但我認為你可以真正有效， 你知道，與你的長度肯定。

And this is an incredible defensive clip just to show, you know what you can look like.

這是一個令人難以置信的防守片段，只是為了展示，你知道你可以看起來像什麼。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

You're trying to blow up the D H.

你想炸掉D H。

O right sitting down, sliding, being disruptive.

O正確的坐下來，滑動，破壞性。

Then you get clipped on the screen, get blasted.

然後你就會被夾在螢幕上，被炸死。

But you recover.

但你恢復了。

You know, you're sitting down, heating them up ice makes a great play at the rim.

你知道，你坐下來，加熱他們的冰使一個偉大的發揮在邊緣。

I mean, that's that's the blueprint right there, right?

我的意思是，那是... ...那是藍圖在那裡，對不對？

Yeah.

是啊。

Yeah.

是啊。

I think if we could just have all five of us, I think you know, a lot of times is me sleep or one of us sleep.

我想，如果我們能有我們五個人，我想你知道，很多時候是我睡覺或我們中的一個人睡覺。

If we could get all five guys playing like that, we're gonna be tough.

如果我們能讓五個人都打出這樣的表現，我們就會很強悍。

So what's the difference, then?

那麼，有什麼區別呢？

When?

什麼時候？

When you're like that.

當你這樣的時候。

And when you're not?

當你不在的時候呢？

I mean, he must have him.

我的意思是，他一定有他。

I'm like He must have pissed me off for that because I was chasing him like I was mad at him.

我想，他一定是是以惹惱了我，因為我像生他的氣一樣追著他。

But, you know, I think, Coach, he must have ended me up.

但是，你知道，我想，教練，他一定是把我幹掉了。

I mean, any time we could just get our our energy going, you know, it might have been a big play on the other and something like that, but I think that's probably the biggest thing I need to work on.

我的意思是，任何時候，我們可以只是讓我們的能量去，你知道，它可能是一個大的發揮在其他和類似的東西，但我認為這可能是最大的事情，我需要工作。

It's just, you know, keeping that consistent and throughout the game.

這只是，你知道，保持一致 和整個遊戲。

Yeah.

是啊。

And there are glimpses of it, you know, pretty special.

而且有一絲絲的，你知道，很特別。

Even here earlier in the year, um, trying to blow that up again.

就連年初在這裡，嗯，又想把它吹起來。

And then, you know, you're trying to keep it on the side, right?

然後，你知道，你想把它放在一邊，對嗎？

Yeah.

是啊。

And ball pressure, active hands, making every tough, every passed tough and then, you know, forcing baseline into a turnover, right?

還有壓球，積極的手感，讓每一次強硬，每一次傳球強硬，然後，你知道的，把基線強行變成了失誤，對吧？

I mean, that's that's high level stuff.

我的意思是，那是高層次的東西。

And using your side playing angles and then even the ball pressure here.

並利用你的側身打球角度，然後在這裡均勻壓球。

You remember this place?

你還記得這個地方嗎？

Yeah, I remember that.

是的，我記得。

I remember that.

我記得。

Is that just instincts?

難道這只是本能？

Yeah, I think you know, anytime somebody's trying to look, you often go on way.

是啊，我想你知道，只要有人想看，你就會經常去看。

If you could slide in front and just test it.

如果你能在前面滑行，只是測試一下。

That's the flaming as a ball handler to see somebody you know fully take your move away.

這就是作為一個控球手看到你認識的人完全把你的動作帶走的火焰。

So, yeah, Coach Boy, he really tells me with that matchup.

所以，是啊，童教練，他真的用這種對決告訴我。

James brings a big time player.

詹姆斯帶來了一位大牌球星。

He tells me with him.

他告訴我與他。

And you were good.

而你也很好。

I was ready for you.

我已經為你準備好了。

Have you took multiple on ball charges?

你是否接受過多次球上指控？

Um, and then here, just keeping it in front.

嗯，然後在這裡，只是讓它在前面。

So here, this is your boy, right?

所以，在這裡，這是你的孩子，對不對？

You're in foul trouble.

你有麻煩了

Uh, what do you think?

呃，你覺得呢？

See, that's another one Where just, you know, 24 7 being all the way locked in, sort of.

你看，這是另一個 其中，你知道，24 7被所有的方式鎖定，排序。

Even though I'm in foul trouble, there's no way I don't sit down and and get in the stands right here.

即使我陷入了犯規的麻煩，我也不可能不坐下來，並且在這裡看臺上。

I just kinda played high.

我只是有點玩嗨了。

Might Makes a big time player.

可能會讓人大跌眼鏡。

He's anytime he's gonna take that, he and see somebody stand straight that he's gonna go.

他的任何時候，他要採取的，他和看到有人站直，他要去。

So yeah, just sitting down, right?

所以是的，只是坐下來，對嗎？

And containing contest.

幷包含競賽。

All that.

所有這些。

You know, they're in two for one mode here.

你知道，他們在這裡是一舉兩得的模式。

Maybe a little upright again, but using the length give me that.

也許又有點直立，但使用長度給我。

Would you would you say after that one?

你會你說後那一個？

Probably, uh, you shouldn't say.

也許，呃，你不應該說。

Yeah, but again, it was like they woke the beast in the second half, and you could see it.

是的，但同樣，這就像他們在下半場喚醒了野獸，你可以看到它。

Um, but this is great.

嗯，但這是偉大的。

Like, I think your I Q and size are gonna make you an impactful defender.

我覺得你的智商和體型會讓你成為一個有影響力的後衛。

So this is what Terrence Shannon?

所以這就是泰倫斯-香農？

What does he like to dio?

他喜歡做什麼？

He's going love left hand driver.

他要愛上左手司機了。

Right?

對吧？

No middle, Take it away.

沒有中間，拿走吧。

I mean, that's That's pretty good.

我的意思是，這是 這是相當不錯的。

Um, defending without fouling.

嗯，防守不犯規。

And then you're going the other way.

然後你要走另一條路。

And so winding down in the on ball stuff, I think your size is a big thing that's so intriguing about you is because you could actually like guards and fours.

所以在球上的東西上風，我覺得你的身材是一個很大的東西，你這麼吸引人，是因為你其實可以喜歡後衛和四號位。

Right.

好吧，我知道了

Um, how many positions do you think you could garden?

嗯，你覺得你能園藝幾個位置？

Um, I think four comfortably e think anytime.

嗯，我想四個舒適的E認為隨時。

It's a small ball.

這是一個小球。

I think I could guard five every once in a while, but I think I could guard force positions pretty comfortable.

我覺得我偶爾可以守五號位，但我覺得我守力位很舒服。

Yeah, and no question.

是的，沒有問題。

And I'll show you one clip of you doing exactly that.

我給你看一個片段，你就是這麼做的。

This one, He gets you a little bit, right?

這個，他讓你有點明白了吧？

Yeah.

是啊。

You know, middle base, our post too.

你知道，中基，我們的崗位也是。

But this case is you can't give up that much.

但這種情況是你不能放棄那麼多。

Based on I said, wall them back up and made him try to shoot it from under the room.

根據我說的，把他們的牆倒過來，讓他嘗試從房間下面拍。

And that's what we've seen your size offensively.

而這也是我們看到你的身材進攻。

That's where I think you could use it defensively, right?

這就是我認為你可以用它來防守的地方，對吧？

And this is a great clip.

這是一個很好的片段。

Okay, help with the rim close out, keeping in front, slide wall up.

好了，幫忙收邊，保持在前面，滑牆了。

That's picture perfect right there.

那是完美的畫面，就在那裡。

That's just that's just the will.

那只是那只是意志。

Right?

對吧？

So one of the fan?

所以，其中一個粉絲？

Yeah, that's that's great, man.

是啊，這是... ...這是偉大的，男人。

And that shows your versatility.

這說明你的多才多藝。

Versatility, and then you chin it on down here, off the ball.

多才多藝，然後你在這裡下巴上，下球。

So in these clothes out situations, what's what's your goal?

所以在這些衣服出的情況下，你的目標是什麼？

Uh, hi hand.

呃，你好手。

He's He was a green, like he was a good shooter.

他是個綠色的人，就像他是個好射手。

So you want to get I mean, definitely want to run him off and get him off that three line, but you don't want to give up a straight line drive like that, Right?

所以，你要讓我的意思是，肯定要讓他跑掉，讓他離開三線，但你不想放棄這樣的直線進攻，對吧？

So in an ideal world, you can get him off and contain him, right?

所以在一個理想的世界裡，你可以把他弄下來，然後控制住他，對嗎？

So best of both, But that's a That's another one where I'm just too high.

所以兩全其美，但這是一個 這是另一個我太高。

I gotta be lowered to the ground and be in the stance.

我得降到地面上，要有姿態。

Yeah, no question on gets to the front of the rim, but I love this okay here against TCU.

是的，毫無疑問，在得到的邊緣的前面，但我愛這個好的這裡對TCU。

Um, I don't even know if this is your tag.

嗯，我甚至不知道這是不是你的標籤。

There's a lot of moving parts, but the physicality on the big fella.

動的部位很多，但大塊頭身上的身體素質。

You like that?

你喜歡這樣嗎？

You like those tax?

你喜歡這些稅嗎？

Yeah, right.

是的，沒錯。

Like football.

像足球。

So and then getting back out to name hard, who's probably you close out to a hand contest, right?

所以，然後再硬著頭皮出去取名字，誰大概是你收手比賽的對象吧？

Yeah, that's really good, man.

是啊，這真的很不錯，夥計。

And just shows your your defensive range aan den here at the rim.

這說明你的防守範圍很廣，在籃下。

The awareness.

的意識。

What are you seeing here?

你在這裡看到了什麼？

I didn't think he was gonna get that passed through, so he kind of got me last second time to get my feet back under me.

我以為他不會讓這個球傳過去，所以他算是讓我最後第二次把腳收回來。

But big time cut.

但大時代的切。

Uh, yeah, I know.

嗯，是的，我知道。

I'm the last resort.

我是最後的手段。

I mean, you play everywhere on the floor, man.

我的意思是，你在地板上的每一個地方玩，男人。

Like four positions.

像四個位置。

Pretty much both ends when you're locked in.

鎖定後，幾乎兩頭都是。

Do you not know you got a season worry about, but do you feel like you're the best part of draft?

你不知道你有一個賽季的擔心，但你覺得你是最好的部分草案？

Yeah, definitely.

是的，絕對的。

Definitely.

絕對是

I feel like I have a lot of things, a lot of tools that no are hard to find.

我感覺我有很多東西，很多工具，沒有是很難找到的。

And, you know, I feel like I affect the game in so many different ways that you know it's gonna be hard to find somebody else that, you know, is this versatile and can affect the game this anyway.

而且，你知道，我覺得我對比賽的影響有很多不同的方式，你知道這將是很難找到別人，你知道，是這樣的多才多藝，可以影響比賽，無論如何。

So, yeah, I feel like I'm the best player.

所以，是的，我覺得我是最好的球員。

But that's how I should feel sure that I know there's a lot of other big time players, but I think I'm the one, okay.

但這就是我應該確定的感覺，我知道有很多其他的大牌球員，但我認為我就是那個人，好吧。

It's been great to watch your development, man.

很高興看到你的發展，夥計。