We're talking about If he if he's not on the court, if he's not on the court, the Lakers air cooked.

我們說的是如果他如果不在球場上，如果他不在球場上，湖人隊就完了。

But if if A D is there.

但如果如果A D在那裡。

But Stephen A.

但Stephen A．

Let's say he's some lower percentage of himself significantly, because he's dealing with an injury.

比方說，他自己的比例明顯低了一些，因為他在處理傷病。

Yeah, the Jazz Jazz would probably beat him right now.

是的，爵士隊現在可能會擊敗他。

And here's the thing.

事情是這樣的

Last year we saw the Jazz and that Denver team.

去年我們看到了爵士隊和那支丹佛隊。

I can't remember a better first round.

我不記得有比這更好的第一輪比賽了。

Siri's like, I don't know like you go back to those Knicks Miami Siri's back in the day, Stephen A with Alonso and Tim Hardaway against Patrick Ewing in them.

Siri的喜歡，我不知道像你回到那些尼克斯邁阿密Siri的一天，斯蒂芬A與阿隆索和蒂姆-哈達威對帕特里克-尤因在他們。

But those were defense of struggles.

但這些都是鬥爭的防禦。

Denver and Utah.

丹佛和猶他州。

Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray put on a show for the ages that should have been in a conference finals, not in the first round, and Denver won by the skin off their teeth.

多諾萬-米切爾和賈馬爾-穆雷上演了一場曠世之作，這應該是在賽區決賽中，而不是在第一輪，丹佛隊贏的是皮毛。

And that was without Bogdanovich, Right?

而且那是在沒有博格達諾維奇的情況下，對吧？

So you add him, and now you think, Oh, maybe that swings it Utah's way.

所以你把他加進來，然後你就會想，哦，也許這對猶他來說是個好消息。

That's not a stretch to say.

這話說得一點也不誇張。

You had a really important piece, and it could swing Utah's way.

你有一個非常重要的部分， 它可以擺動猶他的方式。

But here's the real difference.

但這才是真正的區別。

Mike Conley was not Mike Conley last year, not in the regular season or the playoffs.

邁克-康利去年不是邁克-康利，常規賽和季後賽都不是。

You know, when they moved to get him, I thought, Oh, that's great.

你知道，當他們動身去找他時，我想，哦，那太好了。

Mike Conley is sort of a poor man's Chris Paul.

邁克-康利是那種窮人的克里斯-保羅。

And not not a poverty stricken man's Chris Paul, either.

也不是窮困潦倒的克里斯-保羅。

Just not quite Chris Paul, but does a lot of the same things for your team.

只是沒有克里斯-保羅，但為你的球隊做了很多同樣的事情。

I always thought he was underrated, and if he's not great, he's the next thing to it.

我一直認為他被低估了，如果他不偉大，他就是下一個。

But he wasn't Mike Conley for that team last year.

但他不是去年那支球隊的邁克-康利。

Stephen A Mike Conley is playing elite basketball this year like All Star and then some, No doubt.

斯蒂芬-A邁克-康利今年打出了像全明星一樣的精英籃球，然後一些，毫無疑問。

And if you put him because when we think about these things, yeah, it's nice to have Bogdanovich's apiece.

如果你把他，因為當我們想到這些事情的時候，是的，有博格達諾維奇的每個人都很好。

Joe Ingles.

喬-英格爾斯

Go Bear is a defensive stopper, you know.

熊果果是個防守型的攔路虎，你知道嗎？

But what we're really thinking is, yeah, we know you got one guy who could go get it for you when you need it.

但我們真正想的是，是的，我們知道你有一個人可以在你需要的時候幫你去拿。

Usually, it takes to Mike Conley could be Donovan Mitchell's crime partner that way, not just in terms of organizing the defense and hitting shots but getting his own shot when it matters.

通常情況下，需要邁克-康利這樣才能成為多諾萬-米切爾的犯罪搭檔，不僅僅是在組織防守和投籃方面，關鍵的時候還能獲得自己的投籃機會。

Yes, they need to be worried about Utah.

是的，他們需要擔心猶他州。

I say no.

我說不行

And the reason that I say no is on Lee because, I mean, I throw health aside because that's a given if you're if you're compromised to the point where you can't play or you're just a shell of yourself because you're playing.

而我說不的原因是在李的身上，因為，我的意思是，我把健康拋在一邊，因為這是一個必然的結果，如果你如果你的健康受到影響，以至於你不能打球，或者你只是一個殼，因為你在打球。

But you're clearly hobbled.

但你很明顯是個瘸子。

Ah, lot of teams have a chance.

啊，很多球隊都有機會。

We all way understand that when I answer a question like this, I'm saying Utah 100% healthy.

我們都明白，當我回答這樣的問題時，我說猶他100%健康。

The Lakers 100% healthy.

湖人隊100%健康。

Do I have a reason for concern?

我有理由擔心嗎？

Theano sir, is no.

Theano先生，是沒有。

And here's why.

這就是為什麼。

I feel that way because I don't trust anybody on Utah outside off Donovan Mitchell.

我之所以有這種感覺，是因為我不信任猶他州的任何人，在多諾萬-米切爾之外。

I like the way Mike Conley is playing, and I appreciate that I've always had tremendous respect for Mike Conley.

我喜歡邁克-康利的打球方式，我也很欣賞我一直以來對邁克-康利的尊重。

His averaging about 16 this year is shooting 45% from the field, about 41% from three point range, which is impressive.

他今年場均約16的投籃命中率是45%，三分球約41%，令人印象深刻。

No question about that.

這一點毫無疑問。

That's not what he normally does.

這不是他平時所做的。

I'm assuming that will dip a little bit of the season progresses.

我想，賽季進行中會有一點下滑。

I'm just gonna make that assumption.

我只是要做這個假設。

Okay?

好嗎？

We look at them defensively.

我們從防守上看他們。

Rudy Gobert is averaging, like 14 points, 13 rebounds, nearly three blocks a game.

魯迪-戈伯特平均每場14分13個籃板近3次封蓋的樣子。

You can rely on him to do that against almost anyone, Max.

你可以依靠他來對付幾乎所有的人，麥克斯。

Except who?

除了誰？

Yeah, that would be Anthony Davis and LeBron James.

是的，那就是安東尼-戴維斯和勒布朗-詹姆斯。

Okay, so we got that going on, right?

好吧，所以我們得到了這一點，對不對？

Royce or Neil?

羅伊斯還是尼爾？

Um, this dude is proving to be ah, pretty elite defender in the N b.

嗯，這傢伙被證明是啊， 漂亮的精英後衛在N B。

A.

A.

I think he's the unsung hero for the Utah Jazz.

我認為他是猶他爵士隊的無名英雄。

He's like their version of Drew holiday.

他就像他們版的德魯假日。

Not not offensively but defensively in terms of what he brings to the table.

不是在進攻上，而是在防守上，他給我們帶來了什麼。

Okay, well, here's the problem with that.

好吧，這就是問題所在。

If you're going up against the Lakers, who's your point?

如果你要和湖人隊對決，你的觀點是什麼？

Who's your point?

你想說誰？

Who's the dude that's running the show?

誰是那個管事的傢伙？

Who's the dude that exploits mismatches at every turn?

誰是那個動輒利用錯位的傢伙？

And Royce O Neill is about five inches shorter and about £30 lighter.

而羅伊斯-奧尼爾矮了5英寸，輕了30英鎊。

I mean, this is what I'm talking about here.

我的意思是，這就是我在這裡說的。

So when you break it down from a basketball perspective, I think the Lakers are nightmarish for Utah Now.

所以當你從籃球的角度來分析，我認為湖人對於猶他現在是噩夢。

Donovan Mitchell is a stud, and as far as I'm concerned, a superstar and I think and I look at it a little bit differently than you.

多諾萬-米切爾是個種馬，在我看來，是個超級巨星，我覺得，我的看法和你有點不同。

You talk about how their match of his matchup against Jamal Murray should have been a conference finals.

你說到他們與賈馬爾-穆雷的對決應該是一場大會決賽。

Yeah, that's kind of true.

是的，這是一種真實的。

But here's another way to look at it because of last season and covert and all that came with it and being in a bubble.

但這裡有另一種看法，因為上賽季和隱蔽以及所有的一切，並在保麗龍中。

What a way to start off the playoffs with those two going at it with it was s.

季後賽的開局是什麼方式，這兩個人要用它是s。

So we got this.

所以我們得到了這個。

Utah is a top two defensive team.

猶他州是一支防守前二的球隊。

The elite defensively on the interior is well, is getting out to defend three pointers because you know the interiors protected by Rudy Gobert.

精英在內線的防守很好，就是出去防守三分球，因為你知道內線有魯迪-戈伯特保護。

Offensively, they're far more efficient than we expected, and they deserve credit.

在進攻上，他們的效率遠比我們預期的要高，他們值得信賴。

But as do I believe it's something that they can sustain the last two quarters of the season.

但我相信這也是他們能在賽季最後兩節維持的東西。

I'm not sold.

我不賣。

I will say this stuff as if they're a top two or three seed.

我會把這些東西說成是前二、三號種子。

They don't have to worry about going up against off or fourth seed or 13 until the second round.

在第二輪之前，他們不必擔心會對上關或四號種子或13號種子。

So because of that, I could see them getting out of the first round this year being in the conference semifinals.

所以正因為如此，我可以看到他們今年第一輪出局是在聯賽半決賽。

But I gotta see other.

但我得去看看其他的。

I'm not.

我沒有

I have no question about Donovan Mitchell.

我對多諾萬-米切爾沒有疑問。

Zero everybody else.

其他人都是零。

I got to see it.

我得去看看

Well, look, if you if push came to shove and you called for both of our predicts, absolutely right, that's right.

好吧，聽著，如果你... ...如果逼不得已，你叫我們的兩個預測，絕對正確，這是正確的。

That's what I'm getting, too.

我也是這麼想的。

If push came to shove and you ask for our predictions, I'm also gonna take the Lakers if they're both fully healthy.

如果逼急了，你問我們的預測，如果他們都完全健康，我也會選擇湖人。

And that's because of what you identified.

而這是因為你認定的。

They have LeBron James.

他們有勒布朗-詹姆斯。

So in those close games, you just trust that a guy who's so much better than anyone on the other team will get it done.

所以在那些激烈的比賽中，你只要相信一個比對方任何人都強的人，就能完成任務。

But when you bring up so, yeah, in the end, I'll tape.

但是，當你提起所以，是的，最後，我會帶。

But should they be worried about the Jazz?

但他們應該擔心爵士隊嗎？

Do the Jazz pose a legitimate threat?

爵士隊是否構成合法威脅？

They do, because of what you just mentioned.

是的，因為你剛才提到的。

Exceptionally well coached teams that moved the ball well that play unselfishly, and they also have superstars when they need it most.

異常優秀的球隊，他們的移動球打得很好，他們打得很無私，而且他們在最需要的時候也有超級明星。

Donovan Mitchell is a star regularly when you need him most, he's a superstar, and the gravity he creates, and even a guy like Bogdanovich creates, makes it easier for Conley Stephen A.

多諾萬-米切爾在你最需要他的時候，經常性的成為明星，他是一個超級巨星，他所製造的重力，甚至是博格達諾維奇這樣的人制造的重力，讓康利斯蒂芬?

So when you say you don't know if Conley can is sustainable at these rates, because the Advanced analytics say he's a legally like a top five player or something like that, right?

所以當你說你不知道康利是否能以這樣的速度持續下去的時候，因為高級分析說他是一個合法的像前五名的球員或類似的東西，對嗎？

He's something crazy this year.

他今年有些瘋狂。

Maybe that will regress a little bit to the name.

也許會有點退步於這個名字。

But the point is, he can have the best season of his career this year because of the situation he's in.

但問題是，他今年能有職業生涯最好的一個賽季，是因為他的處境。

And sometimes a team that's exceptionally well coached that has a superstar and other important parts can pop their head up and knock off the champion.

而有時候，一支球隊的教練特別好，擁有超級巨星和其他重要的部分，就能蹦出頭來，把冠軍打掉。

Knock off the favorite team.

敲掉最喜歡的球隊。

We've seen it with the Dallas Mavericks.

我們已經看到了達拉斯小牛隊的情況。

We've seen it with the Detroit Pistons.

我們已經看到了底特律活塞隊的情況。

And it could be that the Jazz or aversion off that this season.

而這可能是爵士隊或厭惡本賽季的關。