I thought that, you know, e thought it was an opportunity for him to get his feet wet in the pros and really do an amazing job.

我認為，你知道，我認為這是一個機會，讓他得到他的腳溼在專業和真正做一個驚人的工作。

Now I'm like all that energy that I have for him in Jacksonville is gone, right?

現在我就像所有的能量，我有他在傑克遜維爾已經消失了，對不對？

And when you look at it, it's it's tone deaf.

當你看到它時，它是... ...它的音障。

A so far as I'm concerned, whatever admire right now, given our climate and the things that we've gone through over the last four years here in our country, let's just say that And then you go out there and you hire somebody.

就我而言，不管現在有多欽佩，鑑於我們的氣候和我們國家過去四年來所經歷的事情，我們只能說，然後你去那裡，你僱人。

Yeah, you've known him for 20 plus years and you've vetted him.

是啊，你認識他20多年了，而且你已經審查過他了。

Yes, all of those things are true.

是的，這些事情都是真的。

You can say that.

你可以這麼說。

But yet, and still the allegations at Iowa was disturbing.

但是，還是在愛荷華的指控令人不安。

They gave him $1.1 million to lead for a reason.

他們給他110萬的上司費是有原因的。

And as fit over 50 players came to the University Athletic Department and told their stories out of 50 players.

而作為合適的50多名球員來到大學體育部，講述了他們在50名球員中的故事。

Everybody can't be lying now.

現在每個人都不能說謊。

You and your first opportunity, your first job in the National Football League.

你和你的第一個機會，你在國足的第一份工作。

You want to start by hiring a guy that had racial issues at the school that he was at his head strength and conditioning coach over a 20 year span at the University of Iowa in Urban.

你想從僱傭一個在他在愛荷華大學的Urban的20年時間裡，在他的首席力量和調節教練的學校裡有種族問題的傢伙開始。

Meyer made the decision to bring him in to the organization in Jacksonville and believe that he's going to be a value to some of the players that air coming into those locker rooms that when free agency hits, that you could explain to those players that Oh, no, he's okay.

梅耶決定把他帶到傑克遜維爾的組織中，並相信他將成為一些球員的價值，空氣進入這些更衣室的時候，當自由市場的到來，你可以向這些球員解釋，哦，不，他沒事。

We vetted it.

我們審查了它。

You could explain that to players.

你可以向玩家解釋一下。

I doubt it.

我懷疑

Now everybody is going to say, Well, you got to give him the benefit of doubt.

現在，每個人都會說，好吧，你得給他懷疑的好處。

Maybe he's changed.

也許他變了。

The dude just was fired nine months ago.

這傢伙九個月前剛被解僱

So you're gonna make that big of a change and that big of a swoop in 99 months on your views the way I've always seen it, maybe he didn't use the N word.

所以你要在99個月內對你的觀點做出那麼大的改變和那麼大的突擊，我一直認為，也許他沒有用N字。

As he said.

正如他所說。

He's never done that.

他從來沒有這樣做過。

He doesn't condone those sort of things.

他並不寬恕這些事情。

This came out of Chris Dole's mouth.

這是從克里斯-多爾的嘴裡說出來的。

He doesn't condone that, got it?

他不寬恕，明白嗎？

Maybe you didn't use that, but you certainly have said some things that made people uncomfortable.

也許你沒用過，但你肯定說過一些讓人不舒服的話。

Having been in that locker room and been in other locker rooms.

進過那個更衣室，也進過其他更衣室。

Molly it, Max, I can assure you players are gonna be looking at him sideways when they walk into that facility whenever that takes place.

茉莉吧，麥克斯，我可以向你保證，當球員們走進那個設施的時候，無論何時發生，他們都會側頭看他。

I don't care what anybody says because in the end, yeah, he's only a good as his word in his word was bad at Iowa.

我不在乎別人說什麼，因為到最後，是的，他只有在愛荷華州的時候，他的言行舉止才是好的。

So when God, when you have veteran guys, the moment that you say so men grown men with, as I like to say, full beards, some of them grown men with baby car seats in the back.

所以，當上帝，當你有老兵的時候，當你說這樣的男人成年男人的時候，我喜歡說，滿臉的鬍子，有的成年男人後面還坐著嬰兒車座。

It's different in college when you have a 17 18 1920 year old guy trying to get to where these 27 28 year old men are at.

在大學裡，當你有一個17 18 1920歲的人想要到達這些27 28歲的人的位置時，就不同了。

They're gonna kinda let things slide until they get to that point.

他們會放任事情的發展，直到他們到了那個地步。

For fear of getting kicked out of school for fear of being benched for fear of the scholarship and education men taken away from them in the National Football League.

因為怕被踢出學校，因為怕被坐板凳，因為怕在國足聯賽中被奪走獎學金和學歷的人。

That doesn't work because they got millions of dollars in their bank accounts.

那是行不通的，因為他們的銀行賬戶裡有幾百萬美元。

And so in the end, he's gonna have to answer to some of those individuals when they have that team media.

所以到最後，他要對這些人中的一些人負責，當他們有團隊媒體的時候。

They're gonna be asking him questions in the moment that he says something slightly or give them a certain look or a certain tone is going to be problematic for Urban Meyer in that organization.

他們會在他稍微說點什麼或者給他們某種眼神或者某種語氣的瞬間就會問他問題，這對烏爾班-梅耶爾在那個組織裡是有問題的。

I wanna read the all the years to have this kind of higher.

我想讀所有的歲月有這樣的高。

Go ahead.

去吧

Max.

最多。

Right, Molly.

好吧，莫利。

That's right, that I thought that was a very good point.

沒錯，這一點我覺得非常好。

Yeah.

是啊。

Um, e want to read the ESPN reporting about this?

嗯，我想讀ESPN的報道嗎？

Over the past year, numerous former Iowa players spoke about mistreatment within the I O program.

在過去的一年裡，眾多前愛荷華球員談到了I O項目內的虐待問題。

Numerous, uh, players.

眾多的，呃，玩家。

A number of black players said that Doyle used racist language and treated them differently based on their race.

一些黑人球員表示，多伊爾使用了種族主義的語言，並根據他們的種族對他們進行不同的對待。

A number off.

一個數字關。

I'm assuming that number is not one or two.

我想這個數字應該不是一兩個。

I believe that number is 50 right?

我相信這個數字是50吧？

It's a It's a lot of It's a lot.

這是個很大的。

It's a high number.

這是個高數。

So what are the odds that everyone is out of their mind and and making it up or misinterpreting things?

那麼，大家都瘋了，並且胡編亂造或者曲解事物的可能性有多大呢？

It's pretty low, it seems to me now, Do I believe that is disqualifying?

很低，現在看來，我相信這是不合格的嗎？

I actually don't I don't think in American life.

其實在美國人的生活中，我不我不認為。

People who have made mistakes should be permanently disqualified from employment in their chosen profession.

犯了錯誤的人應該被永久取消在其選擇的職業中就業的資格。

However, before you can say, Well, OK, fine, they're ready.

然而，在你說，好吧，好吧，他們已經準備好了。

I think there has to be some accountability, you know.

我認為必須要有一定的責任心，你知道的。

And it's not enough for the head coach to say I vetted him and the players.

而主教練說我審核他和球員是不夠的。

They're gonna have to trust what I say.

他們必須相信我說的話。

That's use.

這就是使用。

He's used to a college atmosphere.

他已經習慣了大學的氛圍。

And let's be honest about what happens on a college level, Uh, in basketball and football at the highest levels.

讓我們坦誠地瞭解一下大學裡發生的事情， 呃，在最高級別的籃球和橄欖球比賽中。

It is coaches making millions of dollars, Um, and the players and, by the way, TV networks and schools making millions of dollars on these programs and the players are unpaid, and not only are they unpaid, but it wasn't that long ago that guys could get in trouble because they ate a bagel.

是教練賺了幾百萬美元，嗯，還有球員，順便說一句，電視網和學校在這些節目上賺了幾百萬美元，而球員們卻沒有工資，不僅沒有工資，而且在不久前，球員們可能因為吃了一個百吉餅而惹上麻煩。

But there was cream cheese on the bagel.

但百吉餅上有奶油奶酪。

And does that get literally?

那會不會從字面上看呢？

What's that about?

那是什麼意思？

Why why are the rules of amateurism so strictly enforced?

為什麼為什麼要嚴格執行業餘的規則？

Is that about keeping it pure and well, partly because there were selling the product back to you?

就是要保持它的純潔性和良好的狀態，部分原因是有把產品賣回給你？

The fan, right?

風扇，對嗎？

And partly it's because of control.

還有一部分是因為控制。

You want to control an unpaid labor force and the reason the racial issue is so important here is predominantly.

你想控制一個沒有報酬的勞動力，種族問題在這裡之所以如此重要，主要是。

What is that unpaid labor force in college and then in the NFL?

在大學裡，然後在NFL裡，那是什麼無償勞動力？

What?

什麼？

When we talk over along racial lines, who is the owner of the team?

當我們沿著種族路線談過去的時候，誰是球隊的老闆？

Always almost always the A D, usually the head coach and and on the one hand, and then who are the players on the other?

總是幾乎都是A D，通常一方面是主教練和和，另一方面是球員是誰？

So when an issue comes up like this and the coach talks about transparency, But in fact the vetting process will tell us about the vetting process, what was?

所以當出現這樣的問題，教練說要透明，但其實審核過程會告訴我們審核過程，是什麼？

That's not transparent.

這不透明。

Just saying, trust your my players have to trust me.

只是說，相信你的我的球員要相信我。

I'll take care of the vetting process that, as Key said in college, because they are controlled because they do hope to one day make a living in this profession, it's easier to get away with that in the pros when you're dealing with the best in the world and they've proven that, and they have millions of dollars much harder to get away with that nonsense.

我會負責審核的過程，就像關鍵在大學裡說的那樣，因為他們受到控制，因為他們確實希望有一天能夠在這個行業中謀生，當你面對的是世界上最好的人時，在職業球員中更容易逃脫，他們已經證明了這一點，他們有數百萬美元更難逃脫這種胡說八道。