It sounds like nobody wants to be part of, should they have it then, Well, you know, look, I've been a person that said I don't think they should have it because I, you know I wouldn't want to put myself in that situation considering Atlanta's Open the scene I've seen in the land in Miami.

這聽起來像沒有人想成為的一部分，他們應該有它，那麼，嗯，你知道，你看，我一直是一個人，說我不認為他們應該有它，因為我，你知道我不會想把自己在這種情況下，考慮到亞特蘭大的開放的場景，我已經看到了在邁阿密的土地。

But end of the day, this is about money.

但歸根結底，這是錢的問題。

There's also twenty percent of player salaries that have been kept in s Square, right?

還有百分之二十的球員工資，一直都放在s廣場吧？

I think that's why you have the union that's willing to say, Hey, we're willing to have a game.

我想這就是為什麼你有工會願意說，嘿，我們願意有一個遊戲。

I think not every player is of that magnitude And I think a lot of players, you know, the LeBron James of the guys you're getting paid thirty, you know, twenty five, thirty million dollars a year.

我覺得不是每個球員都有這麼大的規模，我覺得很多球員，你知道，勒布朗-詹姆斯這樣的人，你得到的年薪是三千，你知道，兩千五百萬，三千萬美元。

A lot of guys you know you want to find ways to recoup Some of that money has been left in escrow due to this pandemic and things that have been happening in the negotiation with the leak, so I think we need to have sponsors.

很多人你知道你想要找到收回的方法其中一些錢已經被留在託管中由於這種流行病和事情已經發生在與洩漏的談判中，所以我認為我們需要有贊助商。

I think when you have networks that you have to work with because that that feeds into your revenue have to get forces, everybody, they may not like it, but at the end of the day, you don't hear anybody said they ain't going.

我認為，當你有網絡，你必須與合作，因為這飼料到你的收入必須得到的力量，每個人，他們可能不喜歡它，但在一天結束時，你沒有聽到任何人說，他們是不會。

You're LeBron James said.

你是勒布朗-詹姆斯說的。

I'm gonna be there physically.

我會親自去的

I won't be there mentally But LeBron James said he was gonna be there.

我不會在那裡的精神 但勒布朗-詹姆斯說他會在那裡。

You heard John to say I don't like it.

你聽到約翰說我不喜歡它。

Well, I'm gonna do my job because this is about something bigger than just whether they want to be there or not.

好吧，我要做我的工作，因為這是更大的事情，而不僅僅是他們是否想去那裡。

Now it's It's interesting to me with the stance of the league has taken um, in amount of games that have been postponed, that they would go ahead and do something like this.

我覺得很有趣的是，聯盟的立場是... ...在比賽被延後的情況下，他們會繼續做這樣的事情。

But let's not Let's not confuse ourselves how money makes the world go around.

但我們不要讓我們自己迷惑，錢是如何讓世界運轉的。

People are going to their jobs every single day during these tough times because they have bills to pay and there's bottom lines that companies needed revenue generate and this is the same with the leak.

在這個艱難的時期，人們每天都要去工作，因為他們有賬單要付，有底線的公司需要創收，這也是同樣的漏。

It's gonna be a but obviously it's gonna be about revenue and everybody's gonna want to blame the league, saying the league's being, uh you know, obviously, that he's being greedy, but it's about the deals that they have in place already with the With the networks that said, Well, wait, no, no.

這將是一個，但很明顯，它會是 關於收入，每個人都會想責怪聯盟， 說聯盟的是，呃，你知道，很明顯， 他是貪婪的，但它是關於交易，他們有 在地方已經與網絡說， 好了，等待，不，不。

I'm Turner.

我是特納

No, we're supposed to have an All Star game, so if we don't, I get that money back, and he's like, Well, we can't give you that money back.

不，我們應該有一個全明星賽， 所以，如果我們不這樣做，我得到的錢回來， 他的樣子，嗯，我們不能給你的錢回來。

We needed to pay our players, so we got to do it, and we'll figure out a way to do it.

我們需要給我們的球員發工資，所以我們要做，我們會想辦法做的。

And so I'm sure they will, uh, and you know, when it happens, certainly it'll happen under a different type of scenario than we're used.

所以我相信他們會，呃，你知道，當它發生， 當然，它會發生在不同類型的情況下 比我們習慣。

Thio.

Thio.

When it's a whole weekend, we have bart back.

當它的整個週末，我們有巴特回來。

Yeah.

是啊。

Thanks, Alan.

謝謝你，艾倫。

Listen, if you wanted to get all the question, then all you have to do is say so you don't have to hit the button.

聽著，如果你想得到所有的問題，那麼你要做的就是說，所以你不必按下按鈕。

You have to hit the mute button.

你必須按靜音鍵。

No, me Guilty.

不，我有罪。

Actually.

事實上，

J and J and I both conspired.

J和我和J都是串通好的。

We just figured they want to stay on and not get uncomfortable.

我們只是覺得他們想留在身上，不會不舒服。

So I thought I e not gonna try, and I gotta put all my habitual lines stepping stuff right at the front of the center.

所以我想我不打算嘗試，我得把我所有習慣性踩線的東西放在中間的前面。

I can't even ease him into it, you know, I mean, I just gotta go straight.

我甚至不能讓他放鬆，你知道，我的意思是，我只是要去直接。

No, e Every Tuesday towards the end of our segment, my armpits are just sweating.

不，e每週二在我們的段子快結束時，我的腋下就會出汗。

Right When you think you take me to the threshold arm has sustained and sweat.

對了，當你認為你帶我去門檻的時候，手臂已經持續出汗了。

That's how I feel every time we in our conversation.

每次我們談話時，我都有這種感覺。

So So tell me what?

所以... ...告訴我什麼？

Following up on what Alan talk about.

跟進艾倫所說的。

Whose side are you taking, Chris?

你站在哪一邊，克里斯？

Paul.

保羅

A brick?

磚頭？

Well, I mean e mean, look, if I'm looking at this, you guys know, obviously I love business as a business.

好吧，我的意思是... ...如果我在看這個，你們知道，很明顯，我喜歡商業作為一個企業。

This is what you need to dio um, you know, this isn't that like I do?

這是你需要dio um，你知道，這是不是像我這樣做？

Alan, this isn't just about, you know, the LeBron James.

艾倫，這不僅僅是關於，你知道，勒布朗-詹姆斯。

This is about the health of an organization that just lost hundreds of millions of dollars last year.

這關係到一個組織的健康，去年剛剛虧損了數億美元。

Right?

對吧？

And owners, uh, even you've been talking to a couple owners to what extent they're going through in order to get fans at minimum, You know, that's ten percent capacity.

和業主，呃，甚至你一直在談論一對夫婦的業主 到什麼程度，他們正在經歷 為了讓球迷在最低限度， 你知道，這是10％的容量。

Six percent capacity.

6%的能力。

Try to bring friends and doing sniffing dogs, whatever the, um the you know, Kobe test our, um, to the extent they're going through, they're trying to recoup a lot of this revenue that was lost, and they're trying to maintain their relationship.

儘量帶著朋友，做嗅覺靈敏的狗，不管是什麼，嗯，你知道的，科比測試我們的，嗯，到了他們要經歷的程度，他們想挽回很多這個收入的損失，他們想維持他們的關係。

So you know it.

所以你知道了。

Look to whom much is given.

看誰給的多。

Much is expected.

很多人都在期待。

I know it puts everybody in an uncomfortable situation.

我知道這讓每個人都陷入了不舒服的境地。

Um, I think players should have absolutely optionality to opt out if they deem it to be worthy.

嗯，我認為玩家應該有絕對的選擇權，如果他們認為值得，可以選擇退出。

But, I mean, we also have guys that are playing the seasons.

但是，我的意思是，我們也有球員，正在打的季節。

Um, I think it's a tough fun.

嗯，我認為這是一個艱難的樂趣。

I think God's gonna have to do what they have to do.

我想上帝會不得不做他們必須做的事情。

So when you look at it from that standpoint, if you're LeBron or your own organization that wants to protect your number one asset, which is your star player, are you gonna put them on a minutes restriction?

所以當你從這個角度來看，如果你是勒布朗或者你自己的組織，想要保護你的頭號資產，也就是你的明星球員，你會對他們進行分鐘數的限制嗎？

Are you gonna let some of the younger players play or lesson you?

你是要讓一些年輕球員打球還是教訓你？

Are you gonna be selective about who plays?

你會選擇誰來打球嗎？

And then you talk about the quality of the game?

然後你說說遊戲的品質？

What's that gonna look like?

那會是什麼樣子？

Because LeBron has set the tone saying, Hey, you know, I don't I'll be there.

因為勒布朗已經定下了基調說，嘿，你知道，我不我會去的。

But I won't be into it.

但我不會進入它。

And then you heard Yonas piggyback right off of that.

然後你就聽到了約納斯的豬八戒的聲音。

Whatever LeBron says, I'd say what kind of leaders that But anyway, so you know, that tells you the type of effort that he's gonna put in Follower.

不管勒布朗說什麼，我都會說是什麼樣的領袖，但無論如何，所以你知道，這告訴你，他要付出什麼樣的努力，Follower。

But you know, what does that mean for, like, the quality of the game?

但你知道，這對遊戲的品質意味著什麼？

Well, I mean, I mean, look, I think the game is going thio hurt because of that.

嗯，我的意思是，我的意思是，你看，我認為遊戲是要傷害因為這一點。

But I can also play Devil's Advocate and give you the reverse side of that argument.

但我也可以扮演魔鬼代言人，給你反面的說法。

I can actually make an argument that sending all my top players to one secure location is actually protecting my assets more than I'm hurting my ass.

其實我可以提出一個論點，把我所有的頂級球員送到一個安全的地方，其實是保護我的資產，而不是傷害我的屁股。

Because what happens is everybody goes on a seven day or five day All Star break.

因為發生的事情是，大家都會在七天或五天的全明星假期。

I don't know where guys air going.

我不知道你們要去哪裡。

I don't know who their surrounding themselves with.

我不知道他們身邊的人是誰。

I don't know what kind of parties air going on.

我不知道什麼樣的黨的空氣是怎麼回事。

You know, that guy's air hanging out or going in the cities and things that they're doing on their flu time.

你知道，這傢伙的空氣掛出或去 在城市和事情，他們正在做 在他們的流感時間。

I do know that you know twenty plus of the world's best players from my league will be an isolated bubble to a degree, we hope, with measure security with words, a lemon pepper J.

我是知道的，你知道二十多個世界上最好的球員從我的聯盟將是一個孤立的保麗龍，在一定程度上，我們希望，用文字來衡量安全，一個檸檬胡椒J。

That's two words for you that they put in their listen.

這是給你的兩個字，他們把聽。

It's like pukey you'd be calling me.

就像你會叫我pukey一樣。

You got these dudes.

你有這些傢伙。

Sit up there, you got You got dudes that's addicted.

坐在那裡，你有 你有帥哥的沉迷。

You're gonna put him right there by the source.

你要把他放在那裡的源頭。

Come on, man.

來吧，夥計。

Magic City right there.

魔都就在那裡。

I hear you.

我聽到了

But I'm just I'm telling you, the devil's absolutely meant from a couple of owners that I've spoken to and how they and how, um Adam Silver and company in the league or handling from security measures around these facilities in which these athletes are going to be at.

但我只是想告訴你，魔鬼的絕對是指從一對夫婦的業主，我已經談過，他們如何和如何，嗯亞當-西爾弗和公司在聯盟或處理從安全措施周圍這些設施，這些運動員將在。

So, look, I hear what you're saying on that side of it, but, you know, I don't know let me cut the way chicken thing ever happens because something happened in the bubble that happened in Orlando.

所以，你看，我聽到你在說什麼 在它的那一邊，但是，你知道，我不知道讓我切雞的方式 事情曾經發生，因為一些事情發生在保麗龍 發生在奧蘭多。

That happened when we was able to leave.

當我們能夠離開的時候就發生了。

Which kind of makes that argument potentially even stronger.

這也算是讓這個論點可能更加強大。

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