Let's go back to the goat talk.

讓我們回到羊的話題上。

Did Brady finally put an end to it?

布雷迪終於給它畫上句號了嗎？

Even in the future?

即使在未來？

It's all said and done.

這一切都說得過去。

Brady's the go.

布雷迪就是那個人

No one's ever gonna take that away.

沒有人能夠奪走這一點。

I think so.

我想是的

I think so.

我想是的

He's gonna go down as the most celebrated quarterback in the history of the National Football League.

他將成為國家橄欖球聯盟歷史上最著名的四分衛。

Um, and I think that again.

嗯，我又覺得。

You know, I say it's over for Patrick Mahomes and Onley in that regard.

你知道，我說帕特里克-馬霍姆斯和昂利在這方面已經結束了。

We all know that Patrick Mahomes is phenomenal.

我們都知道帕特里克-馬霍姆斯是現象級的。

We know he will be back.

我們知道他會回來的。

There's no question in my mind that as long as he's healthy and he's at the quarterback position for the Kansas City Chiefs, they will win Super Bowl championships in the future.

在我看來，只要他健康，他在堪薩斯城酋長隊的四分衛位置上，毫無疑問，他們將在未來贏得超級碗冠軍。

I sincerely doubt it will reach seven, but more importantly than that, we're going to look at the fact that when he went against Brady, Brady took him out.

我真心懷疑會不會達到7個，但比這更重要的是，我們要看他和布雷迪對位時，布雷迪把他幹掉了。

Okay, Brady is gonna end up in the M V.

好吧，Brady會被送進M V。

P.

P.

Max just went on the soliloquy, the previous segment with a lot of things he had to say about two in comparison and what I'm saying that Max is what Max has said on many occasions about everybody else, and you could validate this.

麥克斯剛才的獨白，前一段他有很多話要講，兩個人在比較，而我說的麥克斯是麥克斯在很多場合對大家說的，你可以驗證一下。

It's not that your information is wrong.

不是你的資訊有誤。

It's that at the end of the day, ain't nobody gonna be thinking about that.

就是到了最後，沒有人會去想這些。

Like, for example, you couldn't.

比如說，你不能。

You're a Giants fan.

你是巨人隊的球迷

Ah, Giants fan, diehard.

啊，巨人隊的球迷，死忠。

And you didn't even remember that New England scored 14.

而你甚至不記得新英格蘭隊得了14分。

You said 17.

你說的17。

I'm just saying you didn't remember.

我只是說你不記得了。

But you remember, of course, that the Giants beat the Patriots.

但你當然記得，巨人隊擊敗了愛國者隊。

I'm saying to you that when it comes to Patrick Mahomes against Tom Brady, we're going to remember that they got beat down.

我想說的是，當帕特里克-馬霍姆斯對陣湯姆-布雷迪時，我們會記得他們被打倒了。

The particulars is going to escape a lot of people in the future.

特殊是將來會有很多人逃避。

What we're going to remember is that Brady, one and one Super Bowl M V P and Patrick Mahomes lost and lost convincingly, spent most of the day running for his life.

我們要記住的是，布雷迪，一個和一個超級碗M V P，帕特里克-馬霍姆斯輸了，而且輸得很有說服力，每天大部分時間都在為生活奔波。

And so when you look at it from that perspective and it was a beat down that took place before the world, that is not something that gets glossed over.

所以當你從這個角度來看，這是一場發生在世人面前的打鬥，這不是被掩蓋的事情。

It's something that you could ultimately overcome in terms off people still appreciating your greatness and what you mean to the NFL and that you're the future face in the NFL or whatever.

這是你最終可以克服的問題，人們還是會欣賞你的偉大，欣賞你對NFL的意義，欣賞你是NFL未來的面孔或者其他什麼。

But even though Brady's one now four ring I mean, I think he's one like three or four rings since the age of 37 since the age, he's 13 since I made the Cliffs prediction out of the last five years, multiple after 40 that don't bring that up yourself, but in the end.

但即使布雷迪的一個現在四環我的意思是，我認為他的一個像三或四環自37歲以來的年齡，他是13，因為我做了懸崖預測出過去五年，多個40後，不要把自己，但最終。

But in the end, what it comes down to is that when you get beat down like that and it's at the hands of Brady, people are going to remember that those other details, while definitely accurate, is not what folks outside of Matt Kelly, Max Kellerman and a Daniela Skis of the world and others are going to recall what you just said.

但歸根結底，當你被打成那樣，而且是在布雷迪的手上，人們會記得那些其他的細節，雖然肯定是準確的，但馬特-凱利、馬克斯-凱爾曼和世界上的一個丹妮拉-斯基斯等人之外的人是不會記得你剛才說的話的。

Israel talk.

以色列談。

That's how that, as the kids say, I don't know if the kids anymore it was Israel talk, right?

就是這樣，就像孩子們說的那樣，我不知道孩子們再是說的是以色列吧？

That old is that people know what you think.

那老是人家知道你的想法。

The point is, the point is, that's real talk.

關鍵是，關鍵是，這才是真話。

That's that's actually what is going to happen now.

這其實就是現在要發生的事情。

Do I think that means the door is shut?

我想這是不是意味著門已經關上了？

I don't.

我不知道

And let me tell you why.

讓我告訴你為什麼。

First of all, there could be a rematch next year or the year after.

首先，明年或後年可能會有一場複賽。

The way Brady's going right there, both on great teams, it could happen.

布雷迪在那裡的方式，兩個偉大的團隊，它可能發生。

And if Mahomes gets them back, if they blow them out, If the Bucks have problems on the offensive line next time something like that, then then it will cancel out.

而如果馬霍姆把他們找回來，如果他們把他們打爆，如果籃網下一次進攻線出現問題這樣的事情，那麼就會取消。

Still, you have a big hill to climb.

不過，你還有一座大山要爬。

The fact of the matter is, you may be right, and he's not catchable.

事實是，你可能是對的，他是抓不住的。

Whatever you want to say about the color line in baseball, the consensus in baseball's Babe Ruth's the greatest player who ever lived.

不管你想說什麼，關於棒球的色線，棒球界的共識是貝比-魯斯是有史以來最偉大的球員。

He played in the teens and twenties of the last century.

他在上個世紀的十幾歲和二十幾歲的時候玩過。

Sugar Ray Robinson's The greatest fighter who ever lived.

舒格-雷-羅賓遜的《有史以來最偉大的拳手》。

He fought in the forties and fifties.

他在四五十年代打過仗。

Michael Jordan basketball, eighties and nineties, right and they still stand.

邁克爾-喬丹的籃球，八十年代和九十年代，沒錯，他們還在。

So it could be that Brady.

所以可能是那個布雷迪。

We're just witnessing Brady.

我們只是見證了布雷迪。

That's gonna stand 5100 years from now.

5100年後還能屹立不倒。

One thing I got to say, though.

不過，有一點我得說。

LeBron James, when LeBron James went to Miami, not two, not three, not four.

勒布朗-詹姆斯，當勒布朗-詹姆斯去邁阿密的時候，不是兩個，不是三個，也不是四個。

He lost the first one to Dallas.

他第一場輸給了達拉斯。

They were favored and he choked.

他們受寵若驚，他卻被噎住了。

He didn't want the ball in the fourth quarter, four different fourth quarters.

他在第四節沒有要球，四節不同的第四節。

He advocated that responsibility.

他提倡這種責任。

They lost Jordan Ship had sailed at that point, according to people like me, and I'll still say that.

據我等人說，他們輸掉了喬丹船在那時候就已經開船了，我還是那句話。

And yes, we're gonna look at the score and say, That's a blowout.

是的，我們會看著比分說，這是一場大勝。

But did Mahomes actually play poorly?

但馬霍姆斯真的打得不好嗎？

Like, as I said, he had two receivers in the face with the ball he had.

就像我說的那樣，他有兩個接球者在面對他的球。

He had iconic plays in that game that we'll be looking at highlights, you know, decades from now that weren't even receptions, like we're gonna look at him parallel to the ground, throwing that ball like the Odell Beckham catch.

他在那場比賽中的標誌性動作，我們會看亮點，你知道，幾十年後，甚至沒有接球，就像我們要看他平行於地面，把球扔出去，就像奧德爾-貝克漢姆的接球。

And it wasn't even a catch.

而且還沒接住。

No, it wasn't my homes the way LeBron didn't want it, it was the team around him.

不，不是我家勒布朗不想這樣，而是他身邊的團隊。

And I'll say this.

我要說的是

LeBron's in the goat conversation.

勒布朗在山羊的對話中。

You want to deny LeBron's in the goat conversation?

你想否認勒布朗在羊的對話中？

There's a generation of people.

有一代人。

It's like 50 50 almost, who think it's LeBron or Jordan.

就像50個50差不多，誰都覺得是勒布朗或者喬丹。

I may disagree with them, but to say LeBron didn't get back in it after he lost that first one against Dallas is not true.

我可能不同意他們的觀點，但如果說勒布朗在對陣達拉斯的第一場比賽中輸了之後沒有恢復狀態，那是不對的。

He's 15 since then.

從那時起，他已經15歲了。

No, LeBron's in it and if LeBron got back in it, it's not impossible from home, all right, Dan, you played quarterback.

不，勒布朗在裡面，如果勒布朗回到裡面，在家裡也不是不可能，好吧，丹，你打四分衛。

Talk to us.

跟我們說說。

I have no idea if Max actually answered the question.

我不知道Max是否真的回答了這個問題。

Uh, the conversation.

呃，談話。

How did I not answer the question?

我怎麼沒有回答這個問題？

Goat?

山羊？

I just said the goat.

我剛才說的是山羊。

You just put an end to all talk.

你只是把所有的談話結束。

I said, No, it mhm.

我說，不，它嗯。

He will not be caught.

他不會被抓。

First of all, Tom Brady's got seven.

首先，湯姆-布雷迪有七個人。

Now he's got seven.

現在他有七個。

All other active quarterbacks, including Drew, who's gonna probably retire in a couple weeks.

所有其他現役四分衛，包括德魯，他可能會在幾周內退休。

Drew Brees.

德魯-佈雷斯。

They've got eight, so he's got one less than all of the other active quarterbacks in the NFL.

他們有八個人，所以他比NFL其他所有現役四分衛都少一個。

He went to an organization, guys that had the worst winning percentage in the history of the NFL and hadn't been to the playoffs in a dozen years and then just won the Super Bowl and kind of did it relatively easily.

他去了一個組織，那些人的勝率是NFL歷史上最差的，已經十幾年沒進過季後賽了，然後剛剛贏得了超級碗，算是比較輕鬆地做到了。

They had the hiccup in the season where they were poor for five weeks.

他們在本賽季有一個小插曲，他們窮了五個星期。

Stretch, absolutely.

拉伸，絕對是。

But then he goes on the road and beats three Hall of Famers, three of the all time greats.

但後來他上路了，打敗了三位名人堂成員，三位史上最偉大的人。

He goes on the road and beats Drew Brees.

他在客場擊敗了德魯-布里斯。

He goes on the road and beats Aaron Rodgers, and then it beats Patrick.

他在客場擊敗了阿倫-羅傑斯，然後它擊敗了帕特里克。

We agree, Patrick will more than likely be a Hall of Famer.

我們同意，帕特里克很有可能成為名人堂成員。

I mean, this is not only did Tom go into seventh, Tom won his seventh and went on the greatest Super Bowl run on quarterbacks ever been on?

我的意思是，這不僅是湯姆進入第七，湯姆贏得了他的第七，並在四分衛上進行了有史以來最偉大的超級碗？

I mean, think about that.

我的意思是，想想看。

He threw for 50 touchdowns this year at age 43 is so hard to do what he had.

他今年43歲就投出50個達陣，真是難能可貴。

It's so hard to link up with the coach and the organization and take the pay cut with the salary cap for that stretch that he did in New England.

他在新英格蘭的那段日子，很難與教練和組織聯繫起來，用工資帽降薪。

And then when the other team decides that they don't want to keep you for the price or support you for the play, have the opportunity to go somewhere like he did and completely reshape.

然後當對方決定不想用價格留住你或者支持你的玩法時，就有機會像他一樣去某個地方徹底重塑。

I mean, think about the guys that scored last night.

我的意思是，想一想昨晚得分的人。

Leonard for net was cast off, but he wanted to go play with Tom Brady.

倫納德換網被投開，但他想去和湯姆-布雷迪一起玩。

A B now a B did a lot of it on his own.

甲乙現在甲乙自己做了很多事情。

People didn't want.

人們不希望。

Here's the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th 6th opportunity because he wanted to play with Tom Brady.

這是第二、三、四、五、六次機會，因為他想和湯姆-布雷迪一起打球。

Gronk came back and I thought, no shot Gronk Every place in the NFL again Grant Kim comes back.

格隆克回來了，我想，不出手格隆克在NFL的每個地方又格蘭特金回來了。

Why?

為什麼？

Because he wanted to play with Tom Brady.

因為他想和湯姆-布雷迪一起玩。

E.

E.

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