No one with sense would dispute what you're saying about Patrick Mahomes greatness and what we will go down saying about him when all is said and done.

任何一個有理智的人都不會對你所說的帕特里克-馬霍姆斯的偉大之處提出異議，而當一切都結束後，我們會對他進行下一步的評價。

But I must ask you a question, because when we're talking about him, we're not talking about results, guys, we understand that there's a whole bunch of components that come into the equation that dictate ultimate results were talking about his greatness as a talent.

但我必須問你一個問題，因為當我們談論他的時候，我們不是在談論結果，夥計們，我們明白有一大堆的成分進入方程，決定最終的結果是在談論他作為一個天才的偉大。

Are you sitting here with a straight face, Luis Riddick and telling me you've never seen anybody like, um, you've never seen Aaron Rodgers do any of these things?

你坐在這裡，一臉坦然，路易斯-瑞迪克... ...告訴我，你從來沒有見過任何人像，嗯， 你從來沒有見過亞倫-羅傑斯做任何這些事情？

It's never happened.

它從來沒有發生過。

Stephen A.

Stephen A.

I know how much you love Aaron Rodgers.

我知道你有多愛亞倫-羅傑斯。

Yes, I do.

是的，我有。

I love Aaron Rodgers.

我愛亞倫-羅傑斯。

I love Aaron Rodgers.

我愛亞倫-羅傑斯。

Get him.

抓住他

Lou.

盧。

Patrick has a level of skill in his arm that is like Go go gadget like it's different, man.

帕特里克在他的手臂上的技術水平，就像Go go gadget like it's different, man.

It's just flat out different, and I know this is a subjective thing, right?

這只是平鋪直敘的不同，我知道這是一個主觀的東西，對不對？

There's no way to really quantify this as to who has more arm talent.

誰的臂力天賦更強，這個沒有辦法真正量化。

You can't put him on some kind of machine and measure his arm talent next to Erin's.

你不能把他放在某種機器上，然後在艾琳的旁邊衡量他的手臂天賦。

That's to John Elway's Who I Played against Dan Marino's who I played against all these guys.

這是對約翰-艾爾維的 "我和丹-馬裡諾的對手是誰"，我和所有這些人的對手是誰。

This guy, though, is different, and I think people his peers present day and guys who played before him would tell you the same thing.

但這個傢伙不一樣，我想他現在的同齡人和在他之前玩過的人都會告訴你同樣的道理。

I don't know if we've ever seen it.

我不知道我們是否見過。

Let me talk to sit and let me throw this in.

讓我談談坐，讓我把這個扔進去。

Let me throw this in because I will defer.

讓我把這句話扔進去，因為我會延後。

I will openly defer to you.

我將公開聽從你的意見。

You know better than me.

你比我更清楚

I got that.

我知道了。

But I asked the question.

但我問了這個問題。

I ask that I asked that question in this respect.

我要求我在這方面提出這個問題。

Because when I think about and I've often said this to Max in the history of football, I have never seen a successful quarterback throwing to himself who you throw two matters.

因為當我想到，我經常對馬克斯說，在足球歷史上，我從來沒有見過一個成功的四分衛扔給自己，你扔兩個事項。

When I think about Air Coryell with Dan fouls, who could fling the football?

想到空科里爾帶丹犯規，誰能甩開足球？

I think about Charlie joined.

我想查理加入。

I think about Kellen Winslow.

我想到了Kellen Winslow。

Okay, Kellen Winslow Sr.

好吧，老Kellen Winslow。

When I thought about Dan Marino, I couldn't forget that dammit, Mark Clayton and Mark super duper or his targets.

當我想到丹-馬裡諾時，我無法忘記那個該死的，馬克-克萊頓和馬克超級笨蛋或他的目標。

I mean It was something special to behold, and we know that Damn Dan Marino couldn't scramble.

我的意思是，這是一些特別的東西看， 我們知道，該死的丹馬裡諾不能爭奪。

But we know you could fling the football.

但我們知道你會扔足球。

I'm looking at Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey, and I'm just saying to myself, if I'm going to say what you say about Patrick Mahomes, Max Lewis, What I all what I always say to myself, away from y'all just sitting at home watching is this?

我看著泰瑞克-希爾和特拉維斯-凱爾西 我對自己說 如果我說你說的帕特里克-馬霍姆斯 馬克斯-劉易斯 我都... 我總是對自己說 遠離你們坐在家裡看的是什麼？

If Aaron Rodgers was throwing the football to them, would he look worse?

如果阿倫-羅傑斯把足球扔給他們，他會不會看起來更糟糕？

Well, let me flip it.

好吧，讓我翻翻看。

I don't think so.

我不這麼認為。

Let me flip it around.

讓我把它翻過來。

Sure, Let me flip it around, because I do get this.

當然，讓我把它轉過來，因為我確實明白這一點。

Get this point If this is the point.

得到這個點如果是這個點。

Stephen A.

Stephen A.

Michael Jordan came around.

邁克爾-喬丹來到了身邊。

We've never seen anything like him.

我們從來沒有見過像他這樣的人。

I thought by the time his third full season, right, cause he got hurt his second year.

我以為到了他第三個完整的賽季，對吧，因為他第二年就受傷了。

That's the greatest player of all time.

這是有史以來最偉大的球員。

I don't know why people weren't admitting it at the time.

我不知道為什麼當時大家不承認。

He should have won the M V P every year.

他應該每年都獲得M V P。

I mean, Larry Bird knew it and he was the champion of basketball at the time of the M V p and he was like that dude's better than God.

我的意思是，拉里-伯德知道，他是籃球的冠軍，在M V P的時候，他就像那個傢伙的比上帝更好。

But Bird didn't play like Jordan.

但伯德打得不像喬丹。

The bird didn't play like Jordan.

這隻鳥沒有像喬丹那樣打球。

I was a little kids like Oh my God, I hate Larry Bird of the Knicks fan.

我是一個小孩子，像哦，我的上帝，我討厭拉里-伯德的尼克斯球迷。

But who's ever gonna be better than that?

但誰又能比這更好呢？

And then Jordan came along.

然後喬丹出現了。

The difference with Mahomes is there is a dude who is very similar to him, who come along named Aaron Rodgers.

與馬霍姆斯不同的是，有一個花花公子和他很相似，他叫阿倫-羅傑斯。

There's no two ways about that.

這沒有兩全其美的辦法。

That is a difference.

這是一個區別。

Rogers is closer to my homes than anyone was to Jordan at the time he played.

羅傑斯在打球的時候，比誰都離我的家近，比誰都離喬丹近。

But could you imagine Mahomes on that Green Bay team this year in the red zone before the end of the first half?

但你能想象今年綠灣隊的馬霍姆斯在上半場結束前在紅區嗎？

Going over three and they have to kick a field goal.

超過三分，他們就得踢進一球。

Could you imagine him at the end of the game?

你能想象他在遊戲結束後的樣子嗎？

Seeing daylight, not running and missing?

見天日，不跑，不見？

A receiver like Mahomes has the extra element to me that Rogers doesn't that gun slinger thing that far have had that extra little juice that makes you believe at all times his team is gonna win because they have him.

像馬霍姆斯這樣的接球手，在我看來有額外的元素，羅傑斯沒有那個槍手的事情，到目前為止已經有了額外的小汁液，讓你在任何時候都相信他的球隊會贏，因為他們有他。

He's like, as I keep saying, Farve and Rogers had a baby.

他就像我一直說的那樣，Farve和Rogers生了個孩子。

It's all the best qualities of each without any of the drawbacks.

這是所有的最好的品質，沒有任何的缺點。

But what makes me uncomfortable with that is that we act like Patrick Mahomes has been perfect all the time.

但讓我不舒服的是，我們表現得好像帕特里克-馬霍姆斯一直都很完美。

We watched the Super Bowl last year, and I hate talking about it because I know how great and phenomenal he is.

我們去年看了超級碗，我討厭談論它，因為我知道他是多麼偉大和現象級的。

And I think he's great for the NFL.

而且我認為他對NFL來說是很好的。

He's great for the world of sports.

他是體育界的大咖。

Great guy, great team leader, great talent, the whole.

優秀的人，優秀的團隊上司，優秀的人才，整個。

But I'm not trying to take anything away from him.

但我並不想從他身上奪走什麼。

I'm just not gonna throw in the shade on Aaron Rodgers in that regard, and I'm looking at Patrick Mahomes for the 1st 3.5 quarters off the Super Bowl last year, he looked incredibly normal.

我只是不想在這方面給阿倫-羅傑斯丟臉，我看帕特里克-馬霍姆斯去年超級碗外的前3.5節，他看起來無比正常。

It's not like everything he touches is gold.

並不是說他接觸的所有東西都是金子。

Every second he overcomes a lot of things, but he does find himself in situations where he's been less than stellar, just like the greats like Aaron Rodgers and others had.

每一秒鐘他都會克服很多事情，但他確實會發現自己在一些情況下表現得不那麼出色，就像阿倫-羅傑斯等偉大人物一樣。

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