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  • -My next guest is a highly acclaimed rapper and an activist

    -我的下一位嘉賓是一位備受讚譽的說唱歌手和活動家。

  • who has written a memoir called "Vibrate Higher."

    她寫了一本名為 "振動更高 "的回憶錄。

  • It's in stores February 16th.

    2月16日上市。

  • Here he is, Talib Kweli.

    他來了,塔利布-奎利

  • That's what I'm talking about. It's so good to see you.

    這就是我說的。見到你真好

  • -What's up, Jimmy? How you feeling?

    -怎麼了,吉米?你感覺怎麼樣?

  • -I'm feeling good, man, knock on wood.

    -我感覺很好,夥計,敲木頭。

  • Congrats on this thing. I'm so excited about this,

    恭喜這個東西。我很興奮。

  • 'cause, look, you know I'm a fan of yours,

    因為,你看,你知道我是你的粉絲。

  • but this, for anyone who's a fan of hip-hop in general,

    但這,對於任何一個喜歡嘻哈的人來說。

  • you should read this. -Yes.

    你應該讀這個。-是的

  • -You have stories in here that I was looking at earlier

    -你的故事在這裡,我早些時候看了。

  • about Tupac and Biggie, and you would --

    關於圖帕克和Biggie,你會 -

  • This is before your music career took off.

    這是在你的音樂事業起飛之前。

  • You were just out, what, promoting events

    你剛剛出去了,什麼,宣傳活動

  • around New York?

    在紐約附近?

  • -Yeah, well, shout-out to Jessica Rosenblum,

    -是的,嗯,向傑西卡-羅森布倫致敬。

  • one of the great New York party promoters.

    一個偉大的紐約黨的發起人。

  • She worked with Diddy back in the day.

    她曾經和Diddy一起工作過。

  • He was called Puffy back then.

    他那時候叫Puffy。

  • And I used to work for her.

    而我曾經為她工作。

  • Biggie would be at these parties she would throw.

    Biggie會在她舉辦的這些派對上。

  • And Biggie and Tupac used to hang out together

    還有Biggie和Tupac經常一起出去玩

  • back in the day.

    當年。

  • -That's crazy. -Tupac was a big, huge rap star

    -太瘋狂了-圖帕克是一個大的,巨大的說唱明星。

  • before Biggie was known as a rap star.

    在Biggie被稱為說唱明星之前。

  • And Tupac would come and hang out in New York

    和圖帕克會來 並掛出在紐約。

  • and get that authentic New York experience

    並獲得真實的紐約體驗

  • for Biggie and Puff and all them.

    為大佬和泡芙他們。

  • And every club they would go to, he would be at those clubs.

    他們去的每一傢俱樂部,他都會在這些俱樂部。

  • So when I would do promoting parties for Jessica,

    所以,當我為傑西卡做推廣的時候,。

  • just in the street handing out flyers --

    就在街上發傳單 --

  • I used to hand out flyers.

    我以前是發傳單的。

  • I've been in the clubs partying with Tupac and Biggie

    我在俱樂部裡和圖帕克、大基一起開過派對。

  • and seen their real friendship.

    並看到了他們真正的友誼。

  • -I also saw in the book that after you performed,

    -我還在書中看到,在你表演之後。

  • you got offstage, and you saw Q-Tip,

    你到了臺下,你看到了Q -Tip。

  • and he was smiling, and he was like --

    他是微笑的,他是喜歡 -

  • -Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Lyricist Lounge.

    -是啊,是啊,是啊。是的,是的,是的,是的。 那是詞人休息室。

  • Shout-out to Danny and Anthony, Lyricist Lounge.

    向Danny和Anthony致敬,Lyricist Lounge。

  • They had me perform at the Lyricist Lounge,

    他們讓我在Lyricist Lounge表演。

  • at SOB's, legendary SOB's in New York.

    在SOB's,傳說中的SOB's在紐約。

  • And one of my first performances, my hero,

    也是我的第一次表演,我的英雄。

  • musical hero Q-Tip gave me props on one of my first performances.

    音樂英雄Q-Tip在我的第一次演出中給了我道具。

  • -So many people hold you in high regard.

    -很多人對你的評價都很高

  • You're on everyone's top five.

    你是每個人的前五名。

  • I mean, but rappers, real rappers

    我的意思是,但說唱歌手,真正的說唱歌手。

  • hold you in super high regard, including Jay-Z.

    把你捧得超級高,包括Jay -Z。

  • There's a story about how you found out

    有一個故事是關於你是如何發現的。

  • that you were in a Jay-Z song.

    你在Jay -Z的歌曲。

  • Do you remember? Can you tell us what happened?

    你還記得嗎?你能告訴我們發生了什麼嗎?

  • -Jay-Z has a song called "Moment of Clarity"

    -Jay -Z有一首歌叫 "清澈的時刻"。

  • where he shouts out myself and my good brother Common,

    在那裡,他喊出了本人和我的好兄弟共同。

  • who's also one of my favorite emcees and favorite people.

    誰也是我最喜歡的司儀和最喜歡的人之一。

  • Jay-Z had rapped on the remix for my biggest song, "Get By."

    Jay -Z曾在我最重要的歌曲 "Get By "的混音中說唱。

  • And we had a little burgeoning relationship.

    而我們也有了一點萌芽的關係。

  • And it was Busta Rhymes

    是布斯塔-萊姆斯

  • that called me and told me about this.

    打電話給我,告訴我這件事。

  • I was in the studio 2004

    2004年我在工作室

  • working on my album "Beautiful Struggle."

    正在製作我的專輯 "美麗的奮鬥"。

  • And Busta called me and said,

    布斯塔給我打電話說

  • "Have you heard the new Hove album?

    "你聽過霍夫的新專輯嗎?

  • And he shouts you out."

    他還把你喊出來。"

  • And he said on the song, "If skills sold, truth be told,

    而他在歌中說:"如果技能賣了,真相就會被告知。

  • I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli."

    我可能會是抒情的Talib Kweli。"

  • And it just made me feel like I was in the right place

    它只是讓我覺得我是在正確的地方。

  • that I needed to be in.

    我需要在。

  • It made me feel like, you know, I spent all this time

    這讓我覺得,你知道,我花了所有的時間。

  • trying to be the best rapper.

    試圖成為最好的說唱歌手。

  • Jay-Z's considered the best rapper by so many people,

    Jay -Z被很多人認為是最好的說唱歌手。

  • and he's mentioning my name.

    而且他還提到了我的名字。

  • That means I did may job at being the best rapper.

    這意味著我做了最好的說唱歌手的工作。

  • But then I thought, well, if I rap more about money,

    但後來我想,如果我說唱的錢多一些。

  • maybe I'd have a lot more money.

    也許我會有更多的錢。

  • You know what I'm sayin'? -[ Laughs ]

    你知道我在說什麼嗎?-[笑]

  • -But then I realized if I rap more about money,

    -但後來我意識到,如果我說唱更多的錢,

  • I'd just be a fake Jay-Z,

    我只是一個假的Jay -Z。

  • and then Jay-Z would never say my name.

    然後Jay -Z永遠不會說我的名字。

  • I just have to be authentic for what I do.

    我只需要對我所做的事情做到真實。

  • -I think what people should take from this

    -我認為人們應該從這個

  • is just there's so many parts of you that make you,

    只是有這麼多的部分 你,使你。

  • and that's what I love.

    這就是我喜歡的。

  • That's what I can't wait to dive in.

    這就是我迫不及待想潛入的原因。

  • But what do you want people to take away?

    但你想讓人們帶走什麼?

  • -I mean, Jimmy, we're all a collection of our memories,

    -我是說,吉米,我們都是記憶的集合體

  • you know? This body we have is just a vessel.

    你知道嗎?我們的這個身體只是一個容器。

  • We have to protect it, and we have to stand up for our bodies

    我們要保護它,我們要為我們的身體站起來

  • while we're here on earth, but it's just a vessel.

    當我們在地球上,但它只是一個容器。

  • We're just passing through here.

    我們只是路過這裡。

  • And we're a collection of our memories, and it's who we are.

    而我們是我們記憶的集合,這就是我們的身份。

  • And I've been blessed and highly favored and uniquely positioned

    而我已經得到了祝福和高度的寵愛和獨特的定位。

  • to be in the back rooms of all different type of history.

    要在各種不同類型的歷史的後室。

  • That's a quote I got from Harry Belafonte,

    這是我從哈里-貝拉方特那裡得到的一句話。

  • who's a man I also was able to establish a friendship with.

    誰是我也能建立友誼的人。

  • He said he was in the back rooms of history,

    他說他在歷史的後室。

  • and that's where I want to be at.

    這就是我想去的地方。

  • Those are the people I look at.

    我看中的就是這些人。

  • I don't look at what's going on trend-wise.

    我不看趨勢上的東西。

  • I'm not trying to compare myself to other rappers right now.

    我現在不想和其他說唱歌手比較。

  • Like, as a writer, I'm looking at James Baldwin,

    就像,作為一個作家,我在看詹姆斯-鮑德溫。

  • and I'm looking at Maya Angelou,

    我在看瑪雅-安吉露。

  • and I'm looking at Richard Wright,

    我在看理查德・賴特。

  • and I'm looking at people who told their story

    我在看那些講述自己故事的人。

  • halfway through their lives.

    半途而廢。

  • I'm in my 40s, you know?

    我已經40多歲了,你知道嗎?

  • I have a lot more living to do.

    我還有很多生活要做。

  • -You've always been an artist who did things your own way.

    -你一直是個用自己的方式做事的藝術家。

  • And last year, you announced

    而去年,你宣佈

  • that you'd be the first major artist

    你會是第一個大藝術家

  • to release an album on Patreon.

    要在Patreon上發行一張專輯。

  • Patreon is this -- Basically, you pay as you go,

    Patreon是這樣的... 基本上,你可以隨用隨付。

  • you sign up, and it goes right to the artist.

    你簽了名,它就會直接到藝術家那裡去。

  • Why did you decide to try that?

    你為什麼決定嘗試一下?

  • -Well, Patreon is built by artists for artists.

    -Patreon是藝術家為藝術家而建的。

  • It's like FUBU but for artists.

    這就像FUBU,但對於藝術家來說。

  • -[ Chuckles ]

    -[笑聲]

  • -And, you know, it allows me to connect with my fans directly,

    -而且,你知道,它讓我可以直接與我的粉絲聯繫。

  • and it allows me to pinpoint

    它使我能夠精確地確定

  • the people who want to spend money on art.

    想花錢買藝術的人。

  • We have a generation of people, it's not even their fault,

    我們這一代人,根本不是他們的錯。

  • because the free market has decided

    因為自由市場已經決定

  • that art is just not something you spend money on.

    藝術不是你花錢就能買到的。

  • You spend money on speakers. You spend money on pot.

    你花錢買音箱。你花錢買鍋。

  • You spend money on cellphones,

    你花錢買手機。

  • but you don't want to spend money on giving an artist money.

    但你不想花錢給藝術家錢。

  • You'd rather give it to Spotify or whatever.

    你寧願把它給Spotify或者其他什麼。

  • And that's fine, because the onus is on the artist

    這很好,因為責任是在藝術家身上的

  • to bring the fan to them.

    把扇子帶給他們。

  • But where are the fans that want to

    但是,想要的粉絲在哪裡?

  • and have the privilege to spend the money, you know?

    並擁有花錢的特權,你知道嗎?

  • And to be able to go and find them

    而能夠去找他們

  • and tap in with them is great.

    並和他們一起挖掘是偉大的。

  • And I want to say "privilege,"

    我還想說 "特權"

  • because not every fan has the money.

    因為不是每個粉絲都有錢。

  • Not every fan can go on a Patreon and spend it,

    不是每個粉絲都能上Patreon消費的。

  • which is why you can still find --

    這就是為什麼你仍然可以找到 -

  • kweliclub.com is my website.

    kweliclub.com是我的網站。

  • I have music up there for free.

    我有免費的音樂。

  • You can still talk to me for free on Facebook

    你還可以在Facebook上和我免費交流。

  • and YouTube and Instagram,

    和YouTube和Instagram。

  • but if you're somebody who wants to support the art,

    但如果你是某人 誰願意支持藝術,

  • we have to provide a space for you to support it.

    我們必須為你提供一個空間來支持它。

  • -Are you working on a new album, too, as well?

    -你也在製作新專輯嗎?

  • -Yes, I am. I'm very excited about my next project.

    -是的,我是。我對我的下一個項目非常興奮。

  • My next project is featuring one of the legendary

    我的下一個項目是以傳奇人物之一的

  • hip-hop producers, one of the founders of this culture

    嘻哈製作人,這種文化的創始人之一。

  • an icon. His name is Diamond D.

    一個偶像。他叫Diamond D.

  • Diamond D is here with me.

    鑽石D和我在一起

  • You know, we are staying safe.

    你知道的,我們要保持安全。

  • And I form a bubble around myself, Jimmy,

    而我在自己周圍形成了一個氣泡,吉米。

  • so me and my friends can hang out.

    所以我和我的朋友可以掛出。

  • But I want to say Diamond D is in the house.

    但我想說的是,鑽石D在屋裡。

  • -No way. -Say what's up.

    -不可能-說吧,什麼事?

  • -Yo, yo! -Diamond D!

    -喲,喲!-鑽石D!

  • I can't wait to hear this. I can't wait to hear some stuff.

    我迫不及待地想聽到這個。我迫不及待地想聽到一些東西。

  • -Yeah, yeah, you know, the new album is crazy.

    -是啊,是啊,你知道,新專輯很瘋狂。

  • And, you know, it's that feeling back.

    而且,你知道的,就是那種感覺回來了。

  • And I'm just proud to be a part of it.

    而我只是很自豪地成為其中的一部分。

  • -You got to sneak some stuff over to me, please.

    -你得偷偷給我送點東西過來,拜託了。

  • I want to hear some stuff before anyone else gets it.

    我想在別人得到它之前聽到一些東西。

  • -No doubt, Jimmy. A'ight, man.

    -毫無疑問,吉米好的,夥計

  • -Congrats. -No doubt. I'm-a get you a copy.

    -恭喜你-毫無疑問我會給你一份副本

  • The album is called "Gotham." It's a dedication to New York.

    這張專輯叫 "Gotham"。這是對紐約的獻禮。

  • And, you know, that's where we from, Jimmy!

    而且,你知道,那是我們的家鄉,吉米!

  • -I love it, bud. Congrats on this.

    -我喜歡它,夥計。我喜歡,夥計 - 恭喜你

  • "Vibrate Higher" is available February 16th.

    "Vibrate Higher "2月16日上市。

  • -Yes. -Talib Kweli.

    -是的 塔里布-奎利

  • -Preorder it right now.

    -現在就預購吧

  • -Come on, bud. It's so good to see you.

    -來吧,夥計。很高興見到你

  • Thank you so much again.

    再次感謝你。

-My next guest is a highly acclaimed rapper and an activist

-我的下一位嘉賓是一位備受讚譽的說唱歌手和活動家。

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