Name: 阿富汗副總統稱美國對塔利班讓步太多 - BBC News (US has conceded too much to Taliban, says Afghan vice-president - BBC News)
Uploaded: 2021-01-30T19:15:37.000Z
Duration: 11 min 46 s

American troops in Afghanistan are at their lowest level since 2000 and one beginning off the US led war in the country.

駐阿富汗的美軍處於2000年以來的最低水平，也是美國主導的阿富汗戰爭的開始之一。

It's part of a deal signed between the Trump administration on the Taliban in February last year, according to which it's been agreed that all foreign forces will leave of Afghanistan this spring.

這是去年2月特朗普政府與塔利班簽署的協議的一部分，根據協議，所有外國軍隊將在今年春天離開阿富汗。

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Peace talks are taking place between the Afghan government on the Taliban, but it's unclear if and when they might result in a resolution.

阿富汗政府與塔利班之間正在進行和談，但目前還不清楚是否以及何時會有解決方案。

All this comes against the backdrop of a significant surge in violence.

所有這些都是在暴力事件大幅增加的背景下發生的。

Dozens of Afghans are being killed every day.

每天都有幾十名阿富汗人被殺。

The conflict has resulted in acute poverty on hunger.

There are fears that once all international forces leave, the Taliban might be back in power in the country.

人們擔心，一旦所有國際部隊離開，塔利班可能重新在該國掌權。

I met Afghanistan's vice president Umbrella Sally On began by asking him if this was the right time for US troops to be leaving.

我見到阿富汗副總統傘莎莉安一開始就問他，現在是不是美軍離開的合適時機。

We believe the mission is not accomplished, but if they decide to leave, we respect their decision.

我們認為任務沒有完成，但如果他們決定離開，我們尊重他們的決定。

But you wouldn't be asking for them to stay.

We would ask them to respect their agreements with us.

我們將要求他們尊重與我們的協議。

They have signed strategic partnership agreement with us and they have signed bilateral security agreement with us.

他們與我們簽署了戰略伙伴協議，並與我們簽署了雙邊安全協議。

Based on that, they have to give a notice to the Afghan government.

基於此，他們必須給阿富汗政府下達通知。

Onda work with the Afghan government on proper on disciplined exit.

翁達與阿富汗政府合作，妥善處理有紀律的出境問題。

When you say that they're leaving before accomplishing the objectives they set out.

當你說，他們在完成他們設定的目標之前就要離開。

Taliban have not separated themselves from Al Qaeda even after the U.

塔利班在美國之後也沒有脫離基地組織。

S Unwise signed an agreement with them in Doha months later, with assistance off us together with them, we killed one Al Qaeda leader in Grozny.

幾個月後在多哈與他們簽署了協議 在他們的協助下 我們和他們一起在格羅茲尼殺死了一名基地組織領導人

He was inside a Taliban command compound.

We call to Al Qaeda members both on the blacklist off the CIA in Helmand.

我們向赫爾曼德省的中情局黑名單上的基地組織成員發出呼籲

They were again embedded with the Taliban, which means without putting a proper counterterrorism verification mechanism, just accepting the verbal assurance off the Taliban that they won't be with the global terror networks.

他們再次嵌入塔利班，這意味著沒有把一個適當的反恐核查機制，只是接受口頭保證關閉塔利班，他們不會與全球恐怖網絡。

Secondly, the question is not the faith off Afghanistan.

第二，問題不在於對阿富汗的信仰。

The question is the fate, reputation and standing off the Western civilization.

問題是西方文明的命運、聲譽和站隊。

They came to assessed a small country, uh, to prevail against terrorism against radicalism on Al Qaeda affiliates.

他們來評估一個小國家，呃，戰勝恐怖主義 對基地組織附屬機構的激進主義。

Is that accomplished both if we put a common checklist, the mission is not accomplished.

如果我們把一個共同的檢查表，任務沒有完成，那是不是既完成了。

But even as you say that the Taliban has links to Al Qaeda, your government is also speaking to them right now in Doha, right?

但即使你說塔利班與基地組織有聯繫，你的政府現在也在多哈與他們對話，對嗎？

That's why the Taliban hate us because we fly in there, face hard evidence off where they are working with global terrorist networks, where they are siding with regional terrorist networks where they have drag factories and how they are lying to the Afghan people and to the world.

這就是為什麼塔利班恨我們，因為我們飛到那裡，面對確鑿的證據，他們在哪裡與全球恐怖主義網絡合作，他們在哪裡與區域恐怖主義網絡站在一起，他們在哪裡有拖拉工廠，他們如何對阿富汗人民和世界撒謊。

We say sovereignity belongs to the people is vested in the public and it is expressed through elections.

我們說主權屬於人民，是屬於公眾的，是通過選舉來體現的。

Taliban say severity belongs to God and God Entrusts is to the most pious person.

塔利班說，嚴厲是屬於上帝的，上帝託付給最虔誠的人。

If you decode their message, they are pursuing a clerical dictatorship.

如果你解讀他們的資訊，他們正在推行文官專制。

So agreeing with Taliban is agreeing to installation off a clerical dictatorship.

所以，同意塔利班就是同意建立一個文人獨裁政權。

No one can impose us on us No one, where or without the world, we will not sell our souls, we will resist.

沒有人可以把我們強加給我們 沒有人，不管在哪裡，也不管世界上有沒有人，我們都不會出賣自己的靈魂，我們會反抗。

But in Afghanistan there has been a massive investment off the whole world.

但在阿富汗，全世界都在進行大規模的投資。

It's not just material investment, it's emotional investment.

這不僅僅是物質投資，更是情感投資。

Why shall we sacrifice it to appease a terrorist group?

為什麼我們要犧牲它來安撫一個恐怖組織？

Our aim to talk to the Taliban is to offer them a chance of becoming mainstream on leave violence.

我們與塔利班對話的目的是為他們提供一個成為休假暴力主流的機會。

But we are not providing them easy terms as the U.

但我們並沒有像美國那樣為他們提供輕鬆的條件。

Has made a mistake by trusting the Taliban?

I think the way they conducted the talks with the Taliban the outreach itself was not a mistake.

我認為他們與塔利班進行會談的方式... ...外聯本身並不是一個錯誤。

But the the massive concession so far given to them was a mistake.

但是，迄今為止給予他們的巨大讓步是一個錯誤。

They swore toe every holy Scripture that if you release these 5000 people based on these assurances, there will be no violence.

他們對每本聖經發誓，如果你根據這些保證釋放這5000人，就不會有暴力。

But the Taliban, In order to protect their prestige with their fighters, they will not announce it.

但塔利班為了保護自己在戰士中的威信，他們不會宣佈。

We told them at the highest level that this is our intelligence and it indicates otherwise.

我們在最高層告訴他們，這是我們的情報，它表示不是這樣。

如果我們這樣做，暴力事件就會激增。

Why did we give that concession in return for absolutely nothing?

為什麼我們給了這種讓步，卻什麼都沒有換來？

We want the United States to define its interest.

What is the interest off the United States.

We are thankful to everyone for their assistance.

But we are begging to know how worried do you think a global power should be about the threat of Al Qaeda?

但我們想知道，你認為一個全球大國應該如何擔心基地組織的威脅？

If they would drop prematurely, they can put any title on their withdrawal and exit.

如果他們會過早地放棄，他們可以把任何標題的退出和退出。

But there is also a title that the terror groups will put on there of a draw, defeat, surrender and escape.

但恐怖組織也會在那裡提出一個平局、失敗、投降和逃跑的題目。

If we prevail and we have a settlement, that's one thing.

如果我們贏了，我們有一個解決方案，這是一件事。

But if we don't have a settlement on they leave, the other side will call it defeat.

但如果我們沒有解決他們離開的問題，對方就會稱其為失敗。

How strong are Al Qaeda in the country today?

如今基地組織在國內的實力如何？

Al Qaeda did not send a 17 battalions to United States.

基地組織沒有向美國派出17個營。

So I think it za quality off Al Qaeda presence.

所以，我認為它za品質關閉基地組織的存在。

It's those a small cells which are allowed to operate train, have a breathing space, have a territory that they are still embedded with the Taliban.

這是那些一個小細胞，允許操作火車，有一個喘息的空間，有一個領土，他們仍然嵌入塔利班。

What are the status of the peace talks between you and the Taliban?

你和塔利班之間的和談情況如何？

Are you really hopeful that there will be a power sharing agreement at the end of it?

你真的希望最後能有一個權力分享協議嗎？

The Taliban completely Miss Andras misinterpret their agreement with the Americans.

塔利班完全小姐安德拉斯曲解了他們與美國人的協議。

They think the world has two superpowers.

他們認為世界上有兩個超級大國。

That is how these talks with us is interpreted by the Taliban.

這就是塔利班對與我們的這些會談的解釋。

So bringing them back from the sky to the earth and telling them you are a group takes time plus Taliban mhm at best when polls have been conducted secretly, half secretly or openly, have never enjoyed more than 10% popularity and acceptance in Afghan society south, east, west or north.

所以，把他們從天上帶回地上，告訴他們你是一個團體，需要時間，加上塔利班mhm最多的時候，民調都是祕密進行，半祕密或公開進行，在阿富汗社會南、東、西、北都沒有超過10%的知名度和接受度。

And that should be taken into consideration when we negotiate with them.

在我們與他們談判時，應該考慮到這一點。

We say, Why are you afraid off election If the population accepts you?

我們說，如果民眾接受你，你為什麼害怕選舉？

President Joe Biden has, uh, during his campaign, maintained that he would like to leave some U.

喬-拜登總統在競選期間曾，呃，堅持認為，他希望留下一些U。

Presence here, in his words, several 1000 people.

存在這裡，用他的話說，幾千人。

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