KENNETH: What's up, everyone.

你好，大家好。

This is Disney+ Deets, where we break down everything

這裡是迪士尼+優惠活動，在這裡我們分解一切

you need to know about your favorite Disney+

你需要知道你最喜歡的迪士尼+。

movies and series.

電影和電視劇。

I'm Kenneth!

我是肯尼斯！

MARCELLUS: And I'm Marcellus.

我是馬塞拉斯。

And not to toot our own horns, but we're

我不想自吹自擂，但我們... ...

pretty much the biggest Disney+ fans out there.

幾乎是最大的迪士尼+粉絲了。

KENNETH: No, let's do it!

不，我們來做吧!

Toot toot!

嘟嘟嘟！

Beep beep!

嗶嗶聲！

That's right!

沒錯！

MARCELLUS: Let's get into it!

我們開始吧!

[INTENSE MUSICAL BUILDUP]

[強烈的音樂BUILDUP]。

[INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN BACKGROUND]

[背景音樂]

MARCELLUS: Today, of course, we're going all

今天，當然，我們要全力以赴了。

into the nitty gritty of what you need to know

進入你需要知道的細節問題。

and what you maybe didn't know about

以及你可能不知道的

none other than "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas."

無非就是 "蒂姆-波頓的《聖誕前的噩夢》"。

KENNETH: Marcellus, this is a classic.

馬塞洛，這是一個經典之作。

MARCELLUS: Oh, yeah.

哦，是的。

KENNETH: I have been a fan of this since it was in theaters.

KENNETH：從上映以來，我一直是這個片子的粉絲。

MARCELLUS: Well, um, you're pretty up there in age,

嗯，嗯，你的年齡很高了。

so I'm sure you remember it all.

所以我相信你還記得這一切。

Haha!

哈哈！

KENNETH: You know what?

你知道嗎？

No one asked you, but I was 14.

沒有人問你，但我當時14歲。

OK?

好嗎？

Anyway, what's the thing that we need to know, sir?

總之，我們需要知道的事情是什麼，先生？

MARCELLUS: Well, Ken, the first thing you need to know

肯，你首先要知道的是...

is that this movie is based on a poem written and illustrated

是，這部電影是根據一首詩寫的和插圖的

by the Tim Burton.

由蒂姆-伯頓。

It was late one fall in Halloweenland,

那是萬聖節樂園的一個深秋。

and the air had quite a chill.

而空氣中也有不少的寒意。

Against the moon, a skeleton sat, alone upon a hill.

對著月亮，一具骷髏頭坐在山上，孤零零的。

MARCELLUS: He wrote it in the early '80s

他是在80年代初寫的。

while he was an animator at Disney.

當他在迪斯尼做動畫師的時候。

KENNETH: That's right.

KENNETH：沒錯。

He worked on "The Fox and the Hound,"

他參與了 "狐狸和獵犬 "的拍攝。

"Tron," and "The Black Cauldron."

"創 "和 "黑鍋"。

MARCELLUS: Now streaming on Disney+.

現在在Disney+上流傳。

KENNETH: Nice plug, Marcellus.

堵得好，馬塞拉斯。

[APPLAUSE] MARCELLUS: I'm proud.

我很驕傲，我很自豪

KENNETH: Look how Tim Burton that is.

肯尼迪：你看那是多麼的蒂姆-伯頓。

MARCELLUS: That's the iconic shot.

這是標誌性的鏡頭。

KENNETH: We were just brought into the world

我們剛剛被帶到這個世界上。

and the magic that is "The Nightmare Before Christmas."

以及 "聖誕前的噩夢 "的魔力。

MARCELLUS: Oh my gosh.

哦，我的天哪。

KENNETH: Marcellus, are you right-handed or left-handed?

馬塞拉斯，你是右撇子還是左撇子？

MARCELLUS: I'm right-handed.

我是右撇子。

KENNETH: OK, so then you can imagine how hard it was

好吧，那你可以想象有多難了

for them to draw with their nondominant hand, which

讓他們用他們的非慣用手畫畫，這是

is exactly what the artist had to do to give

恰恰是藝術家必須要做的事情，以給

the film its unsettling look.

電影它的不安的樣子。

MARCELLUS: That's why it feels so creepy.

這就是為什麼感覺如此毛骨悚然的原因。

KENNETH: Exactly.

KENNETH：沒錯。

Kind of like how you comb your hair in the morning.

有點像你早上梳頭的樣子。

MARCELLUS: (LAUGHS)

MARCELLUS：（笑）。

I-I deserve it.

我，我應得的。

I probably draw just as poorly with my left hand as my right,

我可能左手和右手一樣畫不好。

so maybe I could've helped.

所以，也許我可以幫助。

KENNETH: Nope.

沒有。

Keep your day job.

保持你的日常工作。

MARCELLUS: Thank you for believing in me.

謝謝你對我的信任。

(KENNETH LAUGHS)

(KENNETH LAUGHS)

MARCELLUS: But anyway, it's crazy to think

但無論如何，這是個瘋狂的想法。

about how many individual frames it takes to pull

需要多少個單獨的幀才能拉動

something like this off. KENNETH: Mm-hmm.

像這樣的東西關閉。嗯哼。

MARCELLUS: I know it had to be a lot.

我知道這必須是一個很大的。

KENNETH: Almost 110,000, to be exact.

KENNETH：準確地說，差不多有11萬。

MARCELLUS: Oh, I would just stop.

哦，我就不說了。

KENNETH: Let's just talk about how much

KENNETH：我們只談一下有多少。

work actually goes into a movie like this.

工作實際上進入這樣的電影。

MARCELLUS: Let's talk about it!

讓我們來談談吧!

[SCREAMS]

[尖叫聲]

[GASPS IN FRIGHT]

[GASPS IN FRIGHT]

KENNETH: So they basically shot the movie on 20 sound stages

所以，他們基本上是在20個舞臺上拍攝電影的

at the same time.

同時。

MARCELLUS: Uh-huh.

嗯哼。

KENNETH: They had about eight camera crews,

他們有大約8個攝影組。

20 to 30 lights was lighting up each scene.

每個場景都有20到30盞燈在照明。

MARCELLUS: Wow.

哇

KENNETH: And then it was like 13 artists working at a time.

KENNETH：然後就像13個藝術家同時工作。

OK, at the end of one week, that was just one minute of film.

好吧，在一個星期結束時，這只是一分鐘的電影。

MARCELLUS: A week? KENNETH: That's it.

馬塞洛：一個星期？就是這樣。

MARCELLUS: That's how long it takes for my family to cook

我家做飯也要這麼久啊

Thanksgiving dinner, Kenneth. KENNETH: I remember.

感恩節晚餐，肯尼斯。我記得

I was there. [MARCELLUS LAUGHS]

我在那裡。[MARCELLUS LAUGHS]

MARCELLUS: But, just like my family,

但是，就像我的家人一樣。

these are very patient people.

這些都是非常有耐心的人。

The detail is everything, and that's

細節就是一切，這就是

what really blows my mind.

真正讓我震驚的是。

The costumes, the sets, and all of the facial expressions.

服裝，佈景，還有所有的表情。

These characters blink, and they have to do that by hand.

這些人物眨眼，他們必須用手去做。

KENNETH: Absolutely. MARCELLUS: And it's so perfect.

肯尼迪：絕對的。MARCELLUS：而且它是如此完美。

It looks so fluid. KENNETH: Mm-hmm.

它看起來很流暢。嗯哼。

MARCELLUS: And it looks like they're really moving.

看起來他們真的在行動。

And I also love the little fact of how small their feet are.

我還喜歡他們的腳這麼小的小事實。

I don't know if anyone caught that.

不知道有沒有人發現。

KENNETH: (LAUGHS)

KENNETH：（笑）。

Why you worried about the size of they feet?

你為什麼擔心他們腳的大小？

MARCELLUS: I just love it!

我只是喜歡它！

KENNETH: OK, Marcellus, look.

好了，馬塞拉斯，你看。

These models are amazing.

這些模型是驚人的。

MARCELLUS: Yeah!

是啊！

KENNETH: Like, Jack Skellington apparently

就像傑克-斯克林頓一樣...

had around 400 different heads.

有大約400個不同的頭。

MARCELLUS: Wow.

哇

KENNETH: And Sally had 10 heads, each head making 11

莎莉有10個頭，每個頭有11個。

different facial expressions.

不同的面部表情。

And that's how they capture her emotions.

他們就是這樣捕捉她的情緒。

MARCELLUS: Can't do the math on that.

馬塞洛：算不出來。

KENNETH: Oh, I did.

肯尼迪：哦，我有。

It's 110 faces.

這是110張臉。

Now I can't even make 110 different facial expressions.

現在我連110種不同的面部表情都做不出來。

But my mama sure could when she was mad at me.

但我媽媽生我氣的時候肯定能做到。

MARCELLUS: I know exactly what you're thinking.

我完全知道你在想什麼。

[KENNETH LAUGHS]

[肯尼迪笑]

MARCELLUS: But look at this.

但看看這個。

Look at the characters in this shot.

看看這個鏡頭裡的人物。

They made over 200 puppets for this movie,

他們為這部電影做了200多個木偶。

and not just Jack Skellington, but all of them

不只是傑克-斯克林頓，而是所有的人

literally had their own hinges.

字面上有自己的鉸鏈。

That's what makes them so posable.

所以他們才會這麼有姿色。

KENNETH: Everything that moves in this movie

這部電影裡的一切動作

has to be so thought out.

必須要這麼想。

You see right here, Santa's list?

你看這裡，聖誕老人的名單？

MARCELLUS: I see it.

我明白了

KENNETH: It looks like it's just a little sheet of paper,

看起來只是一張小紙片。

but it's actually two sheets of paper

其實是兩張紙

with tin foil in the middle to make

中間用錫箔紙做

it easy to shape, like a little tin foil sandwich!

它很容易成型，就像一個小錫箔紙三明治!

MARCELLUS: Oh, you are making me hungry,

哦，你讓我餓了。

and you know I love sandwiches, and it's lunchtime.

你知道我喜歡三明治，它的午餐時間。

[KENNETH LAUGHS]

[肯尼迪笑]

KENNETH: I know. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

我知道哦，哦，哦，哦，哦。

MARCELLUS: That bathtub also scares me,

那個浴缸也讓我害怕。

because when I was younger, we had a bathtub with legs

因為我年輕的時候，我們有一個帶腳的浴缸

like that, too, and I thought it could walk.

也是這樣，我還以為它能走呢。

[KENNETH LAUGHS]

[肯尼迪笑]

KENNETH: You didn't want to take a bath.

你不想洗澡。

MARCELLUS: I did not want to take a bath because--

我不想洗澡，因為...

KENNETH: You thought it was going to walk out.

肯尼迪：你以為它會走出來。

MARCELLUS: Yes, and I'm looking at this,

MARCELLUS：是的，我正在看這個。

and I'm like, oh, my gosh.

我很喜歡，哦，我的天哪。

Triggered!

觸發了！

KENNETH: I'll bet your mama was like, boy,

我敢打賭，你媽媽一定會說，孩子。

if you don't get in that tub! - Lock!

如果你不進入那個浴缸！- 鎖上！

- Shock! - Barrel!

- 震驚！- 桶！

MARCELLUS: Oh!

哦！

I love the trick-or-treaters.

我喜歡那些不給糖就搗蛋的人

Do you know who the voices are?

你知道這些聲音是誰嗎？

KENNETH: I know you're going to tell me!

我知道你會告訴我的!

MARCELLUS: Catherine O'Hara, who voices Sally--

凱瑟琳-奧哈拉，她為莎莉配音...

KENNETH: Hi, Sally.

嗨，莎莉。

MARCELLUS: Also voices Shock.

也為休克配音。

- And we thought you didn't like us.

- 我們還以為你不喜歡我們。

MARCELLUS: Barrel was voiced by Danny

桶是由丹尼配音的。

Elfman, the film's composer.

艾爾夫曼，本片的作曲家。

- Whatever you say, Jack.

- 隨便你怎麼說，傑克

MARCELLUS: And Lock is Paul Reubens.

而洛克是保羅-魯本斯。

- Wouldn't dream of it, Jack. [TRICK-OR-TREATERS LAUGH]

- 想不到吧，傑克。[不給糖就搗蛋的人笑]

KENNETH: First of all, Catherine O'Hara--

首先，凱瑟琳-奧哈拉... ...

love her. MARCELLUS: Brilliant.

愛她。輝煌。

KENNETH: Paul Reubens, love him.

保羅-魯本斯，愛他。

MARCELLUS: Mmm.

嗯。

KENNETH: And I am amazed by Danny Elfman.

我對丹尼-埃爾夫曼感到驚訝。

MARCELLUS: Right?

馬塞洛：對嗎？

We have to talk more about Danny Elfman.

我們得多談談丹尼-埃夫曼。

KENNETH: Absolutely!

肯尼迪：當然!

Danny. Elfman.

丹尼。艾夫曼

Legend.

傳說中的。

MARCELLUS: Danny Elfman is, of course,

當然，丹尼-埃爾夫曼是。

the film's composer, and the singing

該片的作曲家和歌唱家。

voice of Jack Skellington.

傑克-斯克林頓的聲音。

So usually, musicals like this start with the finished script

所以一般來說，像這樣的音樂劇，都是先從完成的劇本開始。

and then they fit the songs in.

然後他們就把歌曲裝進去了。

But in the case of this movie, the music actually

但在這部電影中，音樂其實是...

helped influence the story.

幫助影響了這個故事。

Danny Elfman said that he and Tim started

丹尼-埃爾夫曼說，他和蒂姆開始。

with the skeleton of a story--

有一個故事的骨架 --

no pun intended. [KENNETH GIGGLES]

沒有雙關語意。[KENNETH GIGGLES]。

MARCELLUS: And developed the tone of the movie

馬塞洛：並發展了電影的基調。

through the songwriting, Kenneth.

通過歌曲創作，肯尼斯。

Oh!

哦！

This was so fun.

這真是太有趣了。

I love this movie so much.

我非常喜歡這部電影。

KENNETH: Thanks for watching, everybody.

KENNETH：謝謝大家的觀看。

And don't forget to check out "Tim

不要忘了看看 "蒂姆"。

Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas," now

伯頓的《聖誕前的惡夢》，現。

streaming on Disney+.

在Disney+上流傳。

MARCELLUS: Yes.

MARCELLUS：是的。

Thank you for watching.

謝謝你的觀看。

Take care of yourselves and the planet.

照顧好自己和地球。

Make sure to subscribe and like this video.

請一定要訂閱和喜歡這個視頻。

KENNETH: Yes, and tell us in the comments

KENNETH：是的，在評論中告訴我們。

below what movies or shows you want us to deep-dive next!

以下是您希望我們下一步深入挖掘的電影或節目!

Thanks, Marcellus.

謝謝，馬塞拉斯

Now you can go eat your lunch!

現在你可以去吃你的午餐了！

MARCELLUS: Oh, believe me.

哦，相信我。

I will. Marcellus and Kenneth, signing off.

我會的Marcellus和Kenneth 簽收

KENNETH: What kind of sandwich did you make?

你做的是什麼三明治？

MARCELLUS: Don't worry about it.

馬塞洛：不用擔心。

KENNETH: Did you make enough sandwich for me?

你給我做的三明治夠嗎？

MARCELLUS: Nope.

沒有

[DRAMATIC MUSIC]

[戲劇性的音樂]