I'm excited to talk to him.

我很高興能和他談談。

Not only is he one of the most creative rappers out there, pretty successful online.

他不僅是最有創意的說唱歌手之一，在網上相當成功。

He's got a show called Thrift Hall.

他有個節目叫 "節儉堂"。

Please welcome Houston's native son, Fat Tony.

請歡迎休斯頓的本土兒子，胖託尼。

Yeah, man, it just feels cool.

是啊，夥計，這只是感覺很酷。

What's up?

怎麼了？

It's just nice to have some cool name on.

有一些很酷的名字在身上就好了。

Hey, man, Somebody had to do it.

嘿，夥計，總得有人去做。

You had to have a fat motherfucker on here sooner or later.

你遲早得有個胖子在這裡。

So people that are not familiar with you and they don't know your stuff.

所以不熟悉你的人，他們不知道你的東西。

I'm interested in how musicians start out because I think for comedians you're usually talking Thio friends.

我對音樂人是如何開始的很感興趣，因為我覺得對於喜劇演員來說，你通常會說Thio朋友。

And then they tell you that Hey, you should do this.

然後他們告訴你，嘿，你應該這樣做。

But how?

但是怎麼做呢？

How did you start?

你是怎麼開始的？

What was the moment that made you want to pursue music?

是什麼時刻讓你想追求音樂？

Well, I decided to start at probably the worst time possible to link up with my friends.

好吧，我決定在可能是最糟糕的時候開始和我的朋友們聯繫。

It was the summer time in high school, my sophomore year of high school.

那是高中的暑假時間，我高二的時候。

I decided You know what I'm gonna put on a punk show?

我決定了，你知道我要在朋克表演上放什麼嗎？

I found this band from New Jersey called the ER eggs.

我在新澤西州發現了一個叫ER蛋的樂隊

I emailed them and I said, Hey, I see you all on tour, but y'all aren't playing.

我給他們發了郵件，我說，嘿，我看你們都在巡迴演出，但你們都不玩了。

Houston, let me book your Houston show.

休斯敦，讓我幫你預訂休斯敦的演出。

They said yes.

他們說是。

I had no idea what the fuck I was doing.

我不知道我他媽的在做什麼。

I had never been to a concert.

我從來沒有去過音樂會。

I had gotten one flyer in my life from a kid before, but I figured it's like the movies.

以前我一生中也曾收到過一個孩子的傳單，但我想這就像電影一樣。

You go to Kinko's, you make a flyer.

你去Kinko的，你做一個傳單。

Xerox it.

施樂它。

I found my student directory.

我找到了我的學生名錄。

I mailed the flyer out toe like, ah, 100 kids.

我把傳單寄給了100個孩子。

Five kids showed up like physical mail stamps, but in the making the fuck out of them to leaking the fuck out of every one of them.

五個孩子像實體郵票一樣出現了，但在使出渾身解數到漏出渾身解數的每一個人。

Stamps.

郵票。

Whole envelope.

整個信封。

Five kids came to the show, but that was really my start, and from there I kept putting on shows and started making music and just kind of like diving right into it.

五個孩子來參加演出，但那真的是我的開始，從那以後我不斷地舉辦演出，開始做音樂，就這樣直接跳入其中。

That's so cool, because it's not like you.

那太酷了，因為它不像你。

Just there's There's two types of hustle where you just bothering people to get on their show on, then it sounds like what you did is you made your own thing.

只是有 有兩種喧囂，你只是打擾別人上他們的節目上，那麼聽起來你做的是你自己做的事情。

You're like, here's a venue which a lot of people don't want to do that heavy lifting.

你想，這裡的場地，很多人都不想做那麼重的工作。

You think it's just gonna happen?

你認為這只是會發生嗎？

Yeah, honestly, I didn't know better because I didn't know anybody else putting on shows.

是啊，說實話，我不知道更好的，因為我不知道其他人把在節目。

I'm a teenager, and I was really into, like, eighties punk music.

我是一個十幾歲的孩子， 我真的很喜歡，像，80年代的朋克音樂。

And I was really into this band minor threat, and I saw them, and I was like, Yo, these kids are about my age and there putting on shows they're putting out their own records, You know what I mean?

我真的很喜歡這個樂隊minor threat，我看到了他們，我就想，這些孩子和我差不多大，他們在那裡演出，他們在出自己的唱片，你知道我的意思嗎？

I'm like, Why can't I do that for me and my friends, whether we're a punk band or not.

我想，為什麼我不能為我和我的朋友們這樣做，不管我們是不是一個朋克樂隊。

So I just kind of thought that that's what you do in music until later.

所以我只是有點以為這就是你在音樂上的工作，直到後來。

But it worked out because I learned all these different roles before I met the people who could actually do that.

但它成功了，因為在我遇到真正能做這些的人之前，我學會了所有這些不同的角色。

Yeah, it also helps not getting fucked over in the future because, like, no, I know what it costs.

是啊，這也有助於不得到性交 在未來，因為一樣，不，我知道它的成本。

I don't know how much drink tickets air going out.

我不知道多少酒票空氣出去。

I know what the door cut is true.

我知道什麼門切是真的。

True.

沒錯

Just have more agency over your career.

只要對自己的事業有更多的代理權就可以了。

I remember I got like, $300 at a show and I was losing my mind.

我記得我在一次展會上拿到了300美元，我當時都快瘋了。

Incentives like Yo, let's go toe Windies.

激勵像喲，讓我們去溫迪。

Let's fucking let's just do it all.

讓我們他媽的讓我們只是做這一切。

$300 is the most amount of no money.

300元是最多的沒錢。

Oh, certainly.

哦，當然。

But performing Just getting that first thing where you're not paying to perform it, Z, it's the most amount of money you'll ever have of, like, Wow, you get 16, right?

但是，執行 只是得到的第一件事情，你不支付 執行它，Z，它是最多的錢 你會永遠有的，像，哇，你得到16，對不對？

I'm 16 years old with $300.

我16歲，有300元。

I'm a fucking baller.

我是一個他媽的球手。

What is the Wendy's order?

溫迪的訂單是什麼？

You go in with three me?

你和三個我一起進去？

Me.

是我

I was the type of guy back then who?

我當時是那種誰？

I'd buy everybody shit like me and my whole crew.

我會買下每個人的東西，就像我和我的整個團隊。

I'm buying everybody's food.

我請大家吃飯。

My personal go to just the fries and a frosty dip.

我個人的去向只有薯條和霜凍蘸料。

That motherfucker in that's all you need.

你只需要那個混蛋在裡面就可以了。

You don't even need to look out the chicken nuggets and burgers on that shit.

你甚至不需要看出來的雞塊和漢堡的狗屎。

Garbage square burgers.

垃圾方漢堡。

Get out of here, Frosty.

快離開這裡，弗羅斯蒂

Getting frosty bottle service at Wendy's Corner booth 300.

在Wendy's Corner的300號攤位上享受冰霜瓶服務。

Yeah, that money goes quick, but that was the first.

是啊，這些錢去得快，但那是第一個。

The first money is pretty like the incentive to like Okay, keep going.

第一筆錢是相當喜歡的激勵，喜歡好了，繼續前進。

This could work out now.

這下可好了。

Is that something you carry over to?

這是你帶過去的東西嗎？

This day is started.

這一天開始了。

Really carving out your own lane and making your own opportunities even as you get more for success.

真正開闢出自己的通道，讓自己的機會即使得到更多的成功。

Do you still feel that that urged today?

今天你還覺得這種督促嗎？

Definitely.

絕對是

Because I think that, like, you know, I feel like in any creative business, people wanna work with their friends, right?

因為我覺得，就像，你知道，我覺得像在任何一個有創意的行業， 人們想與他們的朋友合作，對不對？

So no matter who your agents are, your label is whatever it really is about the person to person.

所以，不管你的經紀人是誰，你的標籤是什麼，其實就是人與人的關係。

I get more shit popping by just talking to people, befriending people, you know, and and not just artists, but anybody that could work in music or in show business.

我得到更多的狗屎彈出 只是說話的人， 結交的人，你知道， 而且不只是藝術家， 但任何人都可以工作 在音樂或在演藝界。

And a lot of times, some of my best work happens like that, like with Drift Hall.

很多時候，我最好的作品就是這樣發生的，比如《漂移大廳》。

That was just a friend who I was introduced to through another friend, and we just hit it off.

那只是通過另一個朋友介紹給我的朋友，我們一拍即合。

You know, it wasn't like me going around shopping or looking for an opportunity.

你知道，它不像我到處去購物或尋找機會。

It just kind of happen naturally.

它只是一種自然發生。

And those are the best ones.

而這些都是最好的。

That is a cool show.

這是一個很酷的節目。

We should talk about so thrift tall you would have and correct me if I'm wrong, you bring on musicians like Billy I'll ish was on one.

我們應該談論如此節儉高大的你會有和糾正我，如果我錯了，你帶來的音樂家像比利我將是在一個。

Actors was already Dossett, and they basically it's like a competitive thrift store show.

演員已經是多塞特，他們基本上就像一個競爭性的舊貨店節目。

We gotta come up with basically the freshest outfit you know something that's fun.

我們得想出最新鮮的裝備... ...你知道一些有趣的東西。

Like I wanted it to be once, once we got the show right, which is hard enough to get something out there, even a Web.

就像我想的那樣，一旦我們把節目做好了，這已經很難了，即使是一個網絡的東西，也很難。

Siri's right.

Siri的權利。

Once we got it going, it was just like, Let me just holler at people I know and people I kind of know and just see what happens.

一旦我們得到了它，它只是喜歡， 讓我只是叫喊的人，我認識的人，我有點認識，只是看看會發生什麼。

Like Billy, I'll ish total whim.

和比利一樣，我也是一時興起。

I was at my friend's studio Cocoa and Billy Eyeless happened to be there.

我當時在朋友的工作室Cocoa，Billy Eyeless正好在那裡。

I was talking to Cocos manager, asking about having him on the program, and she was like, Yo, let me text him.

我跟Cocos的經理說了，問他要不要上節目，她就說，喲，讓我給他發短信。

Oh, he just text back down to do it.

哦，他只是發短信回下做。

But King Billy, I'll ish, come to I'm like, yeah, off course, But that's how many of the bookings went on that show.

但比利王，我會是什麼，來 我想，是的，當然，但這是多少 預訂去的那個節目。

It was like hitting up a person then wanted to bring their friend on because because the concept is so loose and it's and it's the kind of show where you could just lean back and have fun.

這就像打了一個人，然後想把他們的朋友上，因為因為概念是如此寬鬆，它的和它的那種節目，你可以只是靠在後面，有樂趣。

And in a way that's kind of different than like a normal interview or even playing a reald game show like the stakes were fucking low.

而在某種程度上，這是一種不同的方式，像一個正常的採訪，甚至玩一個Reald遊戲節目一樣，賭注是他媽的低。

We were just there being silly.

我們只是在那裡做傻事。

You're You're shopping for clothes that people have probably died in.

你你在買那些可能有人死在裡面的衣服。

Yes, it couldn't be lower.

是的，不能再低了。

We actually filmed it in a goodwill while people were shopping.

其實我們是在人們購物的時候，在一家商行裡拍的。

So it was like goodwill crowd is not like, amazing crowd.

所以，這就像善意的人群不是喜歡，驚人的人群。

They almost don't give a shit.

他們幾乎不給狗屎。

If anything, they're just get out of the way.

如果說有什麼事的話，他們只是讓開。

It's a little more hostile because there's not another item out there.

因為外面沒有別的項目，所以戾氣比較重。

So people go through racks so fast in the goodwill No one cared that we will.

所以，人們通過貨架這麼快的善意 沒有人關心，我們將。

No, seriously, nobody gave a fuck about us.

不，說真的，沒有人給我們他媽的。

People would like yelling us customers to be like, Can you get out the way were like, thinking like, Oh, they're gonna bug out our talent.

人們會喜歡大喊我們的客戶是這樣的，你可以得到的方式都喜歡，想，哦，他們會bug了我們的人才。

Nobody, kid, we're in L A.

沒有人，孩子，我們是在洛杉磯。

Nobody gives a fuck.

沒有人給他媽的。

Would you feel?

你會覺得嗎？

Do you think the show could come back now in a post pandemic?

你覺得現在在後大流行的情況下，這個節目還能回來嗎？

You think people would be sketched out now?

你以為現在的人都會被勾畫出來嗎？

And you know what world where people are like I don't know about these clothes.

你知道什麼世界上的人都喜歡我不知道這些衣服。

Why?

為什麼？

Why are these clothes free?

為什麼這些衣服是免費的？

We're gonna really have to sanitize it for the future episodes.

我們真的要為以後的劇情消毒了。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

We're gonna have to do a totally different approach.

我們要做一個完全不同的方法。

This'll shirt you're wearing.

這將襯衫你穿。

This is a thrift.

這是一種節儉。

Fine.

好吧

Yes.

是的，我知道

This is definitely a threat.

這絕對是一個威脅。

Fine.

好吧

1996 Tori Amos.

1996年 Tori Amos。

Shirt recovering.

襯衫恢復。

Christian.

基督教。

Yeah.

是啊。

Get a good look at this bad boy people.

好好看看這個壞孩子的人。

It's great, but unfortunately, this is one of those expensive as vintage T shirts.

很好，但不幸的是，這是一件貴如古董的T桖。

This this this ain't no good will find, you know what I mean.

這個... ...這個沒有好東西，你知道我的意思。

But this is this the favorite vintage item.

但這是這個最喜歡的復古物品。

Definitely.

絕對是

Hands down because it's just like it's the kind of shirt that has never gotten old for me.

手，因為它就像那種對我來說永遠不會過時的襯衫。

Walking around with recovering Christian biggest day.

四處走走，與康復的基督徒最大的一天。

Get some good looks.

得到一些好臉色。

Sparks.

火花。

Um, good conversations.

嗯，好的對話。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

You cut through all the bullshit right away.

你馬上把所有的廢話都說出來了。

There's no the weather's weird today.

今天的天氣很奇怪。

I want to know you.

我想了解你

What happened?

怎麼了？

Your advertising, Your recovery thistle is my favorite.

你的廣告，你的康復薊是我的最愛。

Fine.

好吧

I got to preparation for this.

我得準備這個。

A terrible shirt.

一件可怕的襯衫。

Okay, that is very awful.

好吧，這是非常可怕的。

People polka dot shirt and then probably this something I wear all the time.

人圓點襯衫，然後可能這個東西我一直在穿。

It's like a motorcross jacket and favorite thrift fi, because on it it's got a real story because it's Barb.

它就像一件摩托車越野夾克和最喜歡的舊貨，因為它上面有一個真實的故事，因為它是芭比。

So the woman's jacket, because that's my frame.

所以女人的外套，因為那是我的框架。

And it is not the mama.

而不是媽媽。

Wow, so she that is fucking ill.

哇，所以她那是他媽的病。

Whoever Barb waas really wanted to get it out there that she was not the mama.

不管芭芭拉是誰，她真的想讓它在那裡，她不是媽媽。

It's like some Billie Jean shit, man.

這就像一些Billie Jean的狗屎，男人。

It ain't It ain't hurt.

這不是... 這不是傷害。

It ain't her kid don't lead responsibilities on her.

這不是她的孩子，不要把責任推給她。

This is what you can't find it.

這就是你找不到它的原因。

Asos uh, vendetta in a jacket.

Asos呃，仇殺的外套。

Now I think about it.

現在我想起來了。

There's a lot of moms out there taking some shit they don't need.

有很多媽媽在那裡採取一些狗屎 他們並不需要。

Yeah, and I think we need to franchise not the mama into a brand.

是啊，我覺得我們需要的是特許經營，而不是把媽媽變成一個品牌。

I'm on my business.

我在做我的事。

Shit, Moses, you and I need to do this, Okay?

媽的，摩西，你和我必須這樣做，好嗎？

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

Like this from Mom's air.

像這樣從媽媽的空氣。

Tired of playing the mom roles, you know, can be more like a dad where they leave it six in the morning.

厭倦了扮演媽媽的角色，你知道，可以更像一個爸爸，他們在那裡離開它在早上六。

Don't come back till 8.

8點之前不要回來

42 at night, and you're not allowed to ask questions where they were.

42在晚上，你不允許問他們在哪裡。

That's the kind of father I've always wanted to be.

這就是我一直想成為的父親。

This kind of father I plan to be.

我打算做這樣的父親。

And I hope I inspire my wife to become one of those not the mamas thes desert shows you've been doing.

我希望我激勵我的妻子成為那些... ...而不是你一直在做的那些沙漠節目的媽媽之一。

What are pretty cool?

什麼是漂亮的酷？

You're performing in the desert because it's the only option.

你在沙漠裡表演是因為這是唯一的選擇。

Essentially, it's always e.

本質上，它總是e。

I just wake up and I wiped the crust from my she just wake up, get the kids to school on time.

我剛醒來，我擦了擦我的她的皮，剛醒來，準時送孩子上學。

It's easy.

這很容易。

No one's No one's there, you know?

沒有人的 沒有人在那裡，你知道嗎？

And when I first did it, I was thinking Your people are like neighbors houses, some somewhere around here, gonna be tripping.

當我第一次做的時候，我在想 你的人就像鄰居的房子，有些人在這附近，會被絆倒。

Nobody gave a fuck.

沒有人給他媽的。

It's just me.

只有我一個人

The nearest houses, like miles and miles away.

最近的房子，就像在幾裡外。

Yeah, so you just go there and you set up like you're There's no permission needed or permits.

是啊，所以你只是去那裡，你設置 就像你有沒有需要許可或許可證。

You just find a spot.

你只要找到一個地方。

Exactly.

就是這樣

It's all wireless.

都是無線的。

We got in ears, you know, it's very little.

我們有耳朵，你知道，這是非常小的。

We just make it work.

我們只是讓它工作。

No one cares.

沒有人關心。

Just find an empty spot.

找個空位就可以了。

I mean, I feel like the worst thing I gotta worry about it, like somebody running upon this may be trying to rob us.

我的意思是，我覺得最糟糕的事情，我得擔心它， 就像有人運行在這可能是試圖搶劫我們。

Fuck with us.

操我們的。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

I think it's Joshua Tree.

我想是約書亞樹。

So it's like where white people go to feel spiritually eso you might get some dudes that look like me on Truman's very confused and think that you are a hallucination wearing big.

所以就像白人去感受精神的地方一樣，你可能會有一些像我在《楚門》裡的帥哥非常困惑，認為你是一個穿著大的幻覺。

Can't forget the big hats.

不能忘記大帽子。

Three Giant giant hat that fills in all the gaps you don't have in your personality.

三頂巨大的巨帽，填補了你個性中所有的空白。

Ask me about my hat because everything else in my life has been pretty easy.

問我帽子的事，因為我生活中的其他事情都很簡單。

I think that's all you gotta worry about is people coming down from Iowa ska coming out of their Airbnb tripping?

我想你要擔心的是那些從愛荷華州來的人從他們的Airbnb旅行中出來嗎？

You know what?

你知道嗎？

I'm might be right there with them.

我可能就在那裡與他們。

We were very tempted to take mushrooms doing this because we're in the desert.

因為我們在沙漠裡，所以我們很想拿蘑菇來做這件事。

And typically, that's what we're gonna do if we were out there anyway, you know what I mean?

通常情況下，這就是我們要做的 如果我們在那裡反正，你知道我的意思嗎？

Yeah, The first time I went to Joshua Tree, I was like, I don't get this shit at all.

是啊，我第一次去約書亞樹的時候，我就想，我根本不懂這些東西。