Out between the rings started by pimping Kobe on the move.

戒指之間的出場，首先是在移動中給科比拉皮條。

Clouds throw down right my job for the first time in 19 Lakers have in Van final.

云云扔下權利我的工作，這是19年湖人第一次在範氏決賽中有。

We welcome in one of the most dominant forces the game of basketball has ever seen.

我們迎來了籃球運動有史以來最具統治力的力量之一。

He is a four time champion.

他是四屆冠軍。

Three of those titles came with his former teammate Kobe Bryant.

其中有三個冠軍是和他的前隊友科比-布萊恩特一起獲得的。

The one and only Shaquille O Neal is in the house with us Shack.

獨一無二的Shaquille O Neal和我們Shack在一起。

Great to have you on the show.

很高興你能上節目

Thank you for being here.

謝謝你來這裡。

Obviously, we're celebrating and not celebrating.

很明顯，我們是在慶祝和不慶祝。

But talking about the anniversary of Kobe Bryant's passing talk to me for a second about the thoughts initially that came to your mind as you've had an opportunity.

但談到科比-布萊恩特逝世週年紀念日的時候，跟我談一談你最初的想法，因為你已經有機會了。

Reflect that.

反映了這一點。

It's one year ago today that Kobe Bryant passed away when I was briefly reminded the other day that the anniversary was coming up.

今天是科比-布萊恩特去世一年的日子，前幾天我簡單的提醒了一下，週年紀念日就要到了。

Can't believe that the years has went so fast, But listen, we're thinking about him.

不敢相信歲月過得這麼快，但聽著，我們在想他。

Everybody is thinking about him.

大家都在想他。

I'm really thinking about his parents, Pam and Joe.

我真的很想他的父母，帕姆和喬。

I gave him a call all the day and let him know that I love him.

我整天給他打電話，讓他知道我愛他。

Let him know that I will always be there for.

讓他知道，我將永遠在那裡為。

But, you know, again, it's It's a sad day.

但是，你知道，同樣，這是一個悲傷的一天。

Uh, he's going on way too soon.

呃，他走的太快了

You said you spoke to Kobe Bryant's parents.

你說你和科比-布萊恩特的父母談過了。

Could you share with us how they're doing right now?

你能和我們分享一下他們現在的情況嗎？

How are they feeling?

他們感覺如何？

How did they sound when you spoke to them?

你跟他們說話時，他們的聲音如何？

Well, I just called to say Mom and Dad, I love you.

好吧，我只是打電話說爸媽，我愛你們。

If you need anything, give me a call.

如果你需要什麼，給我打電話。

You know, we didn't really, You know, come and say much.

你知道，我們並沒有真的， 你知道，來了，說了很多。

I know it's a rough day for them.

我知道今天對他們來說是艱難的一天。

I didn't want to bother him.

我不想打擾他。

I just want to let them know that they ever need me for anything.

我只是想讓他們知道，他們曾經需要我做任何事情。

You know, they call, You know, I love his mom, love his dad, loved his sisters.

你知道，他們叫，你知道，我愛他的媽媽，愛他的爸爸，愛他的姐妹。

And, you know, I really, really feel for them.

而且，你知道，我真的，真的為他們感到高興。

You know, the world is hurting, but they're really hurting.

你知道，這個世界很痛苦，但他們真的很痛苦。

The world is definitely hurting.

這個世界肯定是很痛苦的。

No question about that.

這一點毫無疑問。

They're hurting his wife and s and his Children are hurting.

他們傷害了他的妻子和他的孩子們。

I know you're hurting.

我知道你很痛苦

I'm hurting.

我很痛。

But I will say this.

但我要說的是

There is a lot to celebrate when you think about the life of Kobe Bryant.

想到科比-布萊恩特的一生，有很多值得慶祝的事情。

And as you've had an opportunity over the last year to reflect on all he's meant to.

而在過去的一年裡，你有機會反思他的所有意義。

You talk about the farm memories that still into your mind when you think about the great moment you've had with Kobe Bryant.

你說到農場的回憶，當你想到你和科比-布萊恩特的偉大時刻，仍然進入你的腦海。

You know, we have great memories.

你知道，我們有美好的回憶。

I could remember when you know.

我可以記得你什麼時候知道。

Hey, and I did the TNT special, and he talked about when we first met.

嘿，我做了TNT的特別節目，他談到了我們第一次見面的時候。

I didn't remember that.

我不記得了。

I remember him coming to the locker room, and he was he was looking for Penny and you know, him and Penny.

我記得他來到更衣室，他... ...他在找Penny，你知道，他和Penny。

I guess Penny was too busy for whatever.

我想Penny是太忙了

And then he came to me and asked for autographs and pitching.

然後他來找我要簽名和投稿。

I was like, Sure, young fella, I didn't even know that.

我當時想，當然，年輕人，我甚至不知道。

Like, even when we play together, Like he never told me that.

就像，即使我們一起玩的時候，就像他從來沒有告訴我。

But look, he he was a guy that when he came in the 17 18, he knew he wanted to be the best player in the world.

但你看，他... ...他是一個傢伙，當他在17 18，他知道他想成為世界上最好的球員。

And, you know, we had we definitely have the big brother little brother relationship, and people ask me all the time If we had all over to do again, what would I do?

而且，你知道，我們... ...我們絕對有大哥哥... ...小弟弟的關係， 人們問我所有的時間，如果我們有所有的重新來過， 我會怎麼做？

Different?

不同的？

And the answer is nothing.

而答案是什麼都沒有。

We definitely pushed each other, it was able for us to win through out of four.

我們肯定是互相推動的，這能夠讓我們在四場比賽中勝出。

Unfortunately, the business of basketball kicked in.

不幸的是，籃球的生意開始了。

I wanted to do other things, and then he was really able to shine and, you know, take over, you know, make a name for herself.

我想做其他的事情，然後他真的能夠發光，你知道，接管，你知道，使自己的名字。

But again, he's going to soon.

但他又很快要。

He'll never be for gotten, but I can both fully say that we are the most enigmatic, controversial, most dominant 12 punch.

他永遠不會為得到，但我都完全可以說，我們是最神祕、最有爭議、最霸氣的12拳。

A little too big ever created, and we will never be duplicated.

太大的一點曾經創造，我們永遠不會被複制。

I don't care what you say, and I don't care who you try to compare us.

我不在乎你說什麼，我也不在乎你拿誰來比較我們。

Toe will never be another Kobe and Shaq ever again.

託伊再也不會成為另一個科比和沙克了。

When you've reflected on Kobe Bryant, his life, his accomplishments being the five time champion that he is.

當你反思科比-布萊恩特，他的生活，他的成就是五次冠軍，他是。

And you think about the times that y'all had together.

你想想你們一起度過的時光。

How many titles do you believe you all would have won had you all stay together?

如果你們都在一起的話，你相信你們會獲得多少個冠軍？

Probably probably.

也許是可能。

At least at least you know, two or three more.

至少至少你知道，還有兩三個。

But again, you know, the business of, you know, basketball kicked in.

但同樣，你知道，你知道，籃球的業務踢。

I don't wanna elaborate that everyone knows the story and about that today.

我不想詳細說明，今天大家都知道這個故事和關於。

But listen, he was he was one of the greatest players ever.

但聽著，他是... 他是有史以來最偉大的球員之一。

Glad I had the ability to go to war with him.

很高興我有能力和他開戰。

My favorite story is in the in the finals.

我最喜歡的故事是在決賽中。

Indiana.

印第安納州。

I was killing, done to file trouble, and it was one of those games that if we lose, Indiana may get the momentum.

我是殺人，做了備案麻煩，這是其中一場比賽，如果我們輸了，印第安納可能會得到動力。

They can win the championship.

他們可以贏得冠軍。

But Kobe, during the time I was that big dog I got, you just sit back and enjoy the show.

但是科比，在我當那條大狗的時候，我得到了，你就坐享其成吧。

It was the most impressive 5671 minutes I've ever seen.

這是我見過的印象最深刻的5671分鐘。

That's what I got, the press conference that things guy is, you know, the best player in the world.

這就是我所得到的，新聞發佈會上，那個東西傢伙是，你知道，世界上最好的球員。

I've only seen one other guys say what he was gonna dio and go out and do it when that was Michael Jordan.

我只見過一個其他的傢伙說什麼，他要dio和走出去做的時候，那是邁克爾-喬丹。

So you know, at that point, look, I already had respect for him, but when he did that during during the finals, I was like, he's ready.

所以，你知道，在這一點上，你看，我已經有尊重他， 但當他這樣做，在總決賽期間，我想，他已經準備好了。

When I talk about seeing Kobe for the last time on New Year's Eve in 2000 and 19, I talk about him looking as if he had been happier than I've ever seen him in mind in the entire time that I've known him throughout his adult life.

當我談到2000年和19年的除夕夜最後一次見到科比時，我說的是他看起來好像比我在整個成年生活中認識他的時間裡看到的他更快樂。

That's the happiest that I had seen him.

這是我見過他最開心的一次。

He seemed to relax like he had accomplished everything.

他似乎很放鬆，好像已經完成了一切。

He was a few years removed from retirement, etcetera.

他離退休還有幾年時間，等等。

Is that the impression that you got in the years since he retired that he had been happier than you had ever seen him?

他退休後的這幾年，給你的印象是，他比你見過的任何時候都要幸福嗎？

It is.

它是。

But the last time I seen him play because I would always like to test Kobe's temperature.

但上次看他打球，因為我總想測試一下科比的溫度。

You ain't gonna do nothing tonight.

你今晚什麼也別想做

Get you Ain't gonna do nothing.

你什麼都不會做

They go out and get 50.

他們出去找50個。

So his last game was like, Hey, man, E need you get 50.

所以他的最後一場比賽是這樣的，嘿，夥計，E需要你得到50。

He's like, Man, I'm too old for that.

他說，夥計，我太老了，不適合做這個。

I was like, You know what you are.

我當時想，你知道你是什麼。

You can't get 50.

你不可能得到50個。

He went out and hit 60 and look, he's been doing that since 17, 18 years old.

他出去打60分，你看，他從17、18歲就開始打了。

That's why you know, he's one of the greatest.

這就是為什麼你知道，他是最偉大的之一。

But hey was definitely happy.

不過嘿嘿肯定是開心的。

Beautiful family, beautiful wife, beautiful kids, you know, he was doing well in business and everybody you know was happy for when you sat down one on one with him.

美麗的家庭，美麗的妻子，美麗的孩子，你知道，他的生意做得很好，當你和他一對一坐下來時，每個人都很高興。

When y'all y'all Did y'all wanna one reflecting on your career together?

你們想一起回顧一下你們的事業嗎？

What did you walk away.

你走了什麼。

Take What did you take away from that interview with him that you may not have known prior to that interview?

你從他的那次採訪中得到了什麼，在採訪之前你可能還不知道？

What did you get from that?

你從中得到了什麼？

I mean, I get that we were both young chasing the same thing, and I've I've actually said this on air.

我的意思是，我明白，我們都是年輕的追逐同樣的事情，我已經... ...我實際上已經說過這個在空氣中。

A lot of times, people were about useless titles.

很多時候，人們都是關於無用的標題。

His team is his team and, you know, but like off the court, we work about useless title.

他的團隊就是他的團隊，你知道，但就像球場外一樣，我們的工作是無用的標題。

But every time we got on the court, we took care of the, you know, task.

但每次上場，我們都會處理好，你知道，任務。

That was that was that hat.

那是那是那頂帽子。

I wish I would have been able to communicate with him or at the basketball.

我希望能和他或在籃球上交流。

You know, that's too.

你知道，這也是。

That's the only thing that really makes me upset.

這是唯一讓我真正不爽的事情。

That's what I tell people.

我也是這麼告訴大家的。

If you have friends people, you ain't seen high school teammates, college teammates, all work buddies, and you need to need to tell them something.

如果你有朋友的人，你是不是見過高中的隊友，大學的隊友，都是工作夥伴，你需要需要告訴他們一些事情。

Reach out.

伸出手來。

Calling, texting face time.

打電話，發短信面對面的時間。

Let him know you love him.

讓他知道你愛他。

Let him know you miss him.

讓他知道你想他。

Let him know you care about.

讓他知道你的關心。

Is that your biggest regret?

這是你最大的遺憾嗎？

When it comes to Kobe?

說到科比？

The fact that you all didn't talk as much as you would have liked to.

事實上，你們都沒能如願以償地多說幾句。

Yes, Kobe Bryant and my sister.

是的，科比-布萊恩特和我妹妹。

My sister passed away a couple of months before Kobe.

我姐姐在科比之前幾個月就去世了。

And you know how we are, Steven, that we work and, you know, we got things to do, You know, we're trying to build a brand, and we're trying to do so much.

你知道我們是怎樣的人，史蒂文，我們工作，你知道，我們有事情要做，你知道，我們試圖建立一個品牌，我們試圖做這麼多。

You know, we really need to take time and, you know, just just reflect on, you know, speaking to our loved ones.

你知道，我們真的需要花時間 而且，你知道，只是反思， 你知道，對我們的親人說話。

So that's what's been haunting me this this this past past year or so.

所以這也是過去這一年多來一直困擾我的問題。

Not not being able to just tell them every day that I love him when I should.

不能夠只是每天告訴他們，我愛他，當我應該。

There's no excuses.

沒有任何藉口。

What would Kobe Saito all of us?

神戶齊藤都會怎麼做？

Now he's in heaven, looking down on us, wishing us the best.

現在他在天堂裡，俯視著我們，希望我們最好。

Probably wanted to push us, drive us forward.

可能是想推動我們，推動我們前進。

What would he be saying us about now as it pertains to how we should be feeling about him and what she what we all should be doing with ourselves?

他現在會對我們說什麼，因為這關係到我們對他的感覺，她什麼我們都應該對自己做什麼？

What would he saying?

他會說什麼？

Estimation?

估計？

He will probably say, Carry on.

他可能會說，繼續吧。

He would probably say, you know, you know, thank you.

他可能會說，你知道，你知道，謝謝你。

Good lesson.

好課。

At age 17, he said, I'm gonna be the Will Smith of the MBA.

17歲時，他說，我要成為MBA中的威爾-史密斯。

Always one of the biggest.

一直是最大的一個。

Yes, that's what he said to me.

是的，他是這麼對我說的。

He said I want to be one of the biggest names to ever greatest basketball court.

他說，我想成為有史以來最偉大的籃球場上最大的名字之一。

People are definitely going to remember her name, and he was already a legend.

人們肯定會記住她的名字，他已經是一個傳奇了。

But look, uh, you know, every day I see a Kobe highlight every day I see a Kobe tribute.

但你看，呃，你知道，每天我都會看到科比的亮點，每天我都會看到科比的致敬。

My daughter got in contact with a guy who painted me these two beautiful pictures.

我女兒和一個給我畫這兩幅漂亮畫的人聯繫上了。

One of myself, One of Kobe.

一個是自己，一個是科比。

I purchased him last night.

我昨晚買了他。

I was on Instagram live with a guy who painted the Kobe and check photo.

我在Instagram上和一個畫科比的人一起直播，看看照片。

I'm gonna buy that follow from him on.

我要從他那裡買下那個跟隨。

I actually have a mural in my living room.

其實我的客廳裡有一幅壁畫。

Mhm.

嗯

You know, Kobe could critique.

你知道，科比可以批判。

I would know this personally because I get on you about your wardrobe from time to time.

我個人是知道的，因為我時常拿你的衣櫃說事。

You know how I dio you're gonna ask me, Kobe?

你知道我怎麼問你嗎，科比？

Kobe will say you're breaking all the rules.

科比會說你違反了所有的規則。

You can't wear a white out the winner, e.

你不能穿白了贏家，e。

I know you're not wearing that suit that.

我知道你穿的不是那套衣服。

Take that suit, take it outside to a New York City dumpster and set it on fire.

拿著那套衣服，到外面的紐約市垃圾箱裡去，然後把它燒了。

and run away.

然後跑掉。

Don't walk away.

不要走開。

He would not say that.

他不會這麼說。

He wouldn't.

他不會的

He would not say that.

他不會這麼說。

He would not say that.

他不會這麼說。

No, he would not say that.

不，他不會這麼說。

I will tell you this, though.

不過，我還是要告訴你。

I'm gonna tell you a quick story.

我給你講個簡單的故事。

One time he came into the hay, came into the Staples Center and he was wearing some outfit looking like he was Gandhi or somebody.

有一次，他來到草場，來到斯臺普斯中心，他穿著一些衣服，看起來像甘地或什麼人。

I walked up to him.

我走到他身邊。

I said, What is that?

我說，那是什麼？

He said Comey and he looked at me and he used the M F word.

他說科米，他看著我，他用了M F這個詞。

And he said, Let me tell you something.

他說，讓我告訴你一件事。

I've been on the cover of Geek twice.

我上過兩次 "怪胎 "的封面。

Fall back.

撤退

I couldn't come back from that shock.

我無法從這種震驚中回過神來。

I couldn't come back from that.

我不能從那回來。

What do you say to you about your wardrobe?

你對你的衣櫃怎麼說？

First of all, first of all, I'm changing your name to Stephen Belafonte Smith, because that's what you look like right now.

首先，首先，我要把你的名字改成斯蒂芬-貝拉方特-史密斯，因為你現在的樣子就是這樣。

You look like a jazz singer from the nineties scooping up Booth Booth s so he would have a problem with this.

你看起來像個九十年代的爵士歌手在挖Booth Booth的牆角 所以他會有問題的

He would have a problem with this right here, but not what you Not what?

他在這裡會有問題，但不是你的問題 不是什麼？

You've been worrying, but not what you've been wearing.

你一直在擔心，但不是你一直在穿什麼。

You can't wear white in the winter, man.

你不能在冬天穿白色的衣服，夥計。

It's not White is great.

不是小白很厲害。

It is a great way.

這是一個很好的方法。

This is great.

這是偉大的。

It's great.

這是偉大的。

Look, man, get out of here.

聽著，夥計，離開這裡。

I gotta go.

我得走了

I appreciate your big boy.

我很欣賞你的大男孩。

Thank you for taking time out of your business schedule, man.

謝謝你從你的工作日程中抽出時間來，夥計。

All right, man.

好吧，夥計。

All right.

好吧，我知道了