You spent so many years in Los Angeles covering Kobe Bryant.

你在洛杉磯花了這麼多年時間報道科比-布萊恩特。

We're thinking about our memories of him.

我們在想我們對他的回憶。

And you had mentioned to me when we were doing coverage of Kobe's death on SportsCenter a year ago today.

一年前的今天，當我們在《體育中心》上報道科比的死訊時，你曾對我提到過。

And I just mentioned a key you had mentioned.

而我剛才提到了你提到的一個關鍵。

There is no athlete that is inextricably linked with their city like Kobe is with Los Angeles.

沒有一個運動員像科比與洛杉磯一樣，與自己的城市有著千絲萬縷的聯繫。

You imparted that on the audience and myself on that day.

你把這一點傳授給了當天的觀眾和我。

I just wonder, a year later what your thoughts are.

只是不知道，一年後，你的想法是什麼？

Um, yeah, and it's absolutely true, Zubin, because of everything that Kobe Waas and how complex of a city that Los Angeles is most people outside of L.

嗯，是的，這是絕對正確的，祖斌，因為科比-華斯的一切，以及洛杉磯這個城市的複雜性，洛杉磯以外的大多數人。

A.

A.

When you think the Lakers and their fans, they think of, you know Jack Nicholson in the Millionaire's Row courtside.

當你想到湖人隊和他們的球迷時，他們會想到，你知道傑克-尼科爾森在百萬富翁行的球場邊。

But there's also the people up top.

但也有上面的人。

You know, there's also the people from East L.

你知道，還有東L的人。

A or from South L.

A或來自南L。

A.

A.

And he spoke to all of those people in a way that the connection was deeper than any other athlete.

而他與所有這些人說話的方式，比其他運動員的聯繫更深。

I mean, postgame.

我是說，賽後。

Oftentimes he's doing, um, interviews in Spanish, right?

他經常用西班牙語做採訪，對吧？

So he had this effect on the city deeper than any other athlete did.

所以他對這個城市的影響比其他運動員都要深。

And that's also because of his work ethic, right, like no one worked the way Kobe did.

這也是因為他的職業道德吧，就像沒有人像科比那樣工作一樣。

I mean, everyone loves shock.

我的意思是，每個人都喜歡震驚。

A lot of people thought shock didn't work hard enough when he was with the Lakers.

很多人認為休克在湖人隊的時候不夠努力。

That's why something like the fans, especially those uh, guys who grows up in the very top of the arena didn't connect to him.

所以粉絲這種東西，尤其是那些呃，生長在競技場最頂端的傢伙，才沒有和他聯繫起來。

They waited for Kobe, and that connection was so deep, well beyond his playing days.

他們等待著科比，這種聯繫是如此之深，遠遠超過了他打球的時代。

And that's why you know what I was when we were, um, doing that live coverage year ago?

這就是為什麼你知道我是什麼 當我們，嗯，做現場報道 一年前？

I was trying to, you know, bring that local perspective of Los Angeles to everyone.

我是想，你知道，把洛杉磯的在地視角帶給大家。

Watching this national well international story is that this is a gut punch to the city of Los Angeles and all the people who who root for the Lakers there because of that connection that he had.

看著這個全國性的好國際的故事是，這是對洛杉磯市和所有的人誰誰根湖人那裡的人，因為他的那個連接，這是一個直覺的打擊。

And you know, the more I think about it, zoo.

你知道，我越想越覺得，動物園。

But it's just it's even sadder is just such a tragic story all around with Kobe, his daughter and the other individuals that were on that helicopter that day is just a gut punch, like the only way I can describe how devastating that.

但它只是它更悲傷的是隻是這樣一個悲慘的故事周圍的科比，他的女兒和其他個人，是在那一天的直升機只是一個腸道衝，像唯一的方式，我可以描述如何破壞性的。

Waas.

模糊。

What do you remember about Michael?

你對Michael有什麼印象？

Kobe's 81 point showing, uh, in the game that he scored 81 points?

科比81分的表現，呃，在他得了81分的比賽中？

You know, key.

你知道，關鍵。

I was there for that game.

我當時就在那裡看那場比賽。

And, you know, that was during a stretch where Kobe was He was scoring a lot because, quite frankly, the team needed to and But this one had a different build up to it, right?

而且，你知道，那是在科比的一段時期，他得了很多分，因為，坦率地說，球隊需要，但這一次有一個不同的建立，對吧？

It was like, you know, he was he was scoring, but he wasn't, like, going stupid, stupid, and all of a sudden just started building.

這就像，你知道，他... ...他在得分，但他不一樣， 去愚蠢的，愚蠢的，和所有的突然 只是開始建設。

I remember at halftime I went to visit some friends and then so, like, as in the third quarter was starting and I was kind of watching the game.

我記得在中場休息的時候，我去拜訪了一些朋友，然後，就像第三節開始的時候一樣，我就在看比賽。

I kinda wasn't watching and I looked up and I just see the points you started, like, creep up, creep up Creepy.

我有點沒看清，我看了一下，我就看到了你開始的點，就像，爬起來了，爬起來了詭異。

I was like, Oh, this dude is about to do something, saying it's like I gotta go.

我當時就想，哦，這哥們要做什麼，說的好像是我要走了。

So then I go watch it and then, like, literally every time down the floor, you were just anticipating not him scoring key, but from where he was going to score, is going to be a three is gonna be in the corner, is going to be at the rim like it was just amazing spectacle to watch and just continue to just keep growing.

所以，然後我去看它，然後，像，從字面上看，每次在地板上，你只是預期不是他得分的關鍵，但從他要在哪裡得分，是要一個三是要在角落裡，是要在籃板像它只是驚人的景象看，只是繼續只是不斷增長。

And the crowd is getting louder.

而且人群的聲音越來越大。

Every time he scored, he looked at Toronto.

每次進球，他都看著多倫多。

They like We have nothing to stop this man from scoring.

他們喜歡我們沒有什麼可以阻止這個人得分。

It was literally one of the more remarkable athletic things I've ever witnessed in my life.

這簡直是我一生中見過的比較出色的運動事件之一。

You know, Mike, this has been a tough year for a lot of people, a lot of lives that have been lost.

你知道，邁克，今年對很多人來說是艱難的一年，很多人失去了生命。

And my thing is with Kobe, I rather celebrate his life for the legacy that he's left on the game and that mamba mentality.

而我對科比的看法是，我更願意為他的生命而慶祝，因為他給比賽留下的遺產和那種曼巴心態。

Is there a story that you heard about Kobe that you probably didn't already know that were kind of left you chills or it changed your mind, set about who he was or what kind of impact he left on the game?

有沒有一個你聽到的關於科比的故事，你可能還不知道，是那種讓你心寒的故事，或者它改變了你的想法，關於他是誰或者他在比賽中留下了什麼樣的影響的設定？

Well, let's be fair, like when you tell the story of someone's life, especially when they when they die tragically and unexpectedly, we always want to say you know the great things about them.

好吧，讓我們公平一點，就像當你講述一個人的生活故事時，尤其是當他們不幸意外死亡時，我們總是想說你知道他們的偉大之處。

But at times Kobe was a jerk.

但有時科比是個混蛋。

There's no question about that.

這一點毋庸置疑。

He was a jerk at times.

他有時是個混蛋。

He did some things that you know as he evolved.

他做的一些事情，你知道他的進化。

He didn't quill feel quite good about clearly, and that's what we all do.

他沒有翮覺得挺好的清楚，我們都是這樣的。

We all evolve in human beings and look back on our past, but we should have done this.

我們人類都在進化，回顧過去，但我們應該這樣做。

Should have done that.

應該這樣做。

But the impact that he had on certain people?

但他對某些人的影響？

Um J it is kind of hard to describe and and some of the players on that team I'll take sausage religion, for example, Right?

嗯J這是一種很難描述和和一些球員在該隊我就拿香腸宗教，例如，對吧？

Sasha was a punching bag for Kobe Bryant for a couple of years.

薩沙曾給科比-布萊恩特當過幾年的打手。

A couple of you, he just went relentless and Sasha, and to the point where Sasha was on the verge of tears.

你們幾個，他就這樣不依不饒的和莎莎，而且到了莎莎都快哭了的地步。

Sometimes in practice after games like that was Kobe's way of trying to get him to a level that Kobe saw of himself that Sasha didn't see and then years later, years later, I remember talking to Sasha about when he's going to another team.

有時候在這樣的比賽後的訓練中，是科比想讓他達到一個科比看到的薩沙沒有看到的自己的水準，然後多年以後，多年以後，我記得我和薩沙說過，他什麼時候去別的球隊。

Another thing, he said.

他說，還有一件事。

The best thing that ever happened to me was coming to play for the Lakers.

最好的事情就是來湖人隊打球。

I'm like everybody wants player like he's like no, Kobe beat the shit out of me for a while.

我就像每個人都想球員一樣，他就像沒有，科比打了我一陣子。

That right there is what defined Kobe in terms of how he wanted other people to see themselves.

就在那裡，這就是科比希望別人如何看待自己的定義。

And if they just put in the work, they could achieve greatness that they didn't see for themselves.

而只要他們付出努力，就能實現自己看不到的偉大。

And Sasha is a good example of that, like he would not have been the player he was and how long his career was, He said it would not have lasted as long if not for Kobe Bryant, that that's an amazing perspective.

而薩沙就是一個很好的例子，就像他不會成為他的球員，他的職業生涯有多長，他說如果不是科比-布萊恩特，就不會持續這麼久，這是一個驚人的觀點。

Sasha nearly shedding tears.

莎莎差點流下眼淚。

There were many tear shed a year ago today, and we should just mention, you know, Michael does a great job on SportsCenter.

一年前的今天，有很多人流淚，我們只想說，你知道，邁克爾在《體育中心》上做得很好。

He's also all over our UFC coverage, and UFC is all about toughness and grit.

他也是我們UFC報道的全部內容，UFC講究的是韌性和勇氣。

And I think those might be too amazing words to remember the legacy of Kobe Bryant.

而我認為這些可能是太過驚人的詞彙，無法記住科比-布萊恩特的遺產。

Toughness and grit.

韌勁和勇氣。