Because I tell you what, he might come to the game, right?

因為我告訴你，他可能會來參加比賽，對吧？

Sometimes you might come to the game, you might shake your hand and that could be scared.

有時候，你可能會來遊戲，你可能會握手，這可能是害怕。

You look at that calendar and you saw the Lakers were coming to town, or you whether you were with Boston or you were with Memphis.

你看那張日曆，你看到湖人隊要來了，或者你不管你是在波士頓還是在孟菲斯。

We're going to L A to play him at Staples Center.

我們要去洛杉磯的斯臺普斯中心和他比賽。

What went through your mind automatically?

你的腦子裡自動地想了些什麼？

Well, obviously, you know, you had sweaty palms, obviously, knowing that's gonna be your Santa with me focusing right in instantly, going right to the video director asked him, You know, for film I pretty much narrowed it all the way down to, you know, highly scored and all his fastest of the game.

好吧，很明顯，你知道，你有汗水的手掌，顯然，知道這是要成為你的聖誕老人與我集中在瞬間，右轉到視頻導演問他，你知道，對於電影，我幾乎縮小了所有的方式，你知道，高度得分和所有他最快的遊戲。

But I always want to study and keep keep the mind for Was the head fake?

但我總想學習，保持心態，對於頭是假的嗎？

He always bag, bag, bag them, turn around head, fake hair, fake hair fake And it's that for E.

他總是包，包，包他們，轉過頭來，假髮，假髮假髮，就這樣為E。

Always jumped right and studying that film, I mean instant.

總是跳到右邊，研究那部電影，我是說瞬間。

Soon as I knew he was on schedule, I was like I had the tunnel vision and you really studied him to the tea.

當我知道他如期而至的時候，我就像我有了隧道的眼光，你真的把他研究到了茶葉上。

Then when you were watching these films, Yeah, it was one of those things.

然後當你看這些電影的時候，是的，這就是其中之一。

Like I got found out in, like, eight minutes before trying to guard Kobe, you know?

就像我被發現了一樣，8分鐘後才試圖守住科比，你知道嗎？

And I want I want to say this is right around the time you start calling itself the Mamba.

而我想我想說的是，這正是你開始自稱曼巴的時候。

Maybe, but all I knew was he has had a play with this seeking destroyed mentality.

也許吧，但我只知道他有玩過這種尋求毀滅的心理。

And it was like that day I was like, Yeah, that had never happened.

就像那天我說的那樣，是的，這從來沒有發生過。

So I just chose, like and in film.

所以我就選擇了，喜歡和在電影。

And that's just been my thinking about my career with him specifically, Mama Go e watched more film on him than any person in the region.

而這只是我對我和他具體的職業生涯的思考，媽媽圍棋e看的關於他的電影比本地區任何一個人都多。

What was it like?

它是什麼樣子的？

If you could remember recall in game like your level of frustration when you were getting those kind of fouls That what I would say?

如果你還記得在遊戲中回憶你的沮喪程度 當你得到這些犯規的時候，我會說什麼？

I was nervous just over hype to play them.

我很緊張，只是過度炒作玩他們。

Yeah, that's if I could say the police.

是的，如果我可以說是警察的話。

But, you know, you got Paul Pierce in your ear saying, Yeah, get ready.

但是，你知道，你有保羅-皮爾斯在你耳邊說，是啊，準備好了。

You stick me every day.

你每天都在粘我。

You stick me every day.

你每天都在粘我。

You should be ready.

你應該準備好了。

Let's go.

我們走吧

Let's Kobe Bryant and I'm taking it in and I'm like, I'm trying to be tough.

讓科比-布萊恩特和我在接受它，我想，我想成為強硬的。

I'm trying to act like I'm not scared.

我想裝作不害怕的樣子。

Like I told you.

就像我告訴你的那樣

My palms are sweating, my arms sweating.

我的手心在出汗，手臂在出汗。

I ain't ran up the float.

我沒有跑起來的浮動。

And then it's like now I'm sticking them.

然後就像現在我在粘他們一樣。

And then it's like, You know what?

然後它就像，你知道嗎？

You gonna dogo like?

你要去dogo喜歡嗎？

Like you know how I did see a copy of the head like Like, that's exactly how it was my first, Like the first time I played Playing against Kobe Bryant is one of the ultimate competitive.

就像你知道我是如何看到一個副本的頭像，這正是如何 這是我的第一次，就像我第一次玩對科比布萊恩特 是一個最終的競爭力。

Because I tell you what, he might come to the game right?

因為我告訴你，他可能會來參加比賽吧？

Sometimes you might come to the game, you might shake your hand, and that could be scared you because because he buttered you up there for, you know.

有時你可能會來比賽， 你可能會握你的手， 這可能是嚇唬你，因為 因為他黃油你在那裡，你知道的。

Hey, how you doing?

嘿，你怎麼做？

That's a three.

這是一個三。

What's up, baby boy?

怎麼了，寶貝兒子？

That's a layup.

這是一個上籃。

Watch out, It's a dump.

小心，那是個垃圾場

You see what I'm saying?

你明白我的意思嗎？

Don't fall for that.

不要上當。

Neither do not fall for that is he had a few games where he done me like that and he busts across the head.

都不上當，是他有幾場比賽，他這樣做我，他就破頭了。

I like the games when he don't say nothing to me.

我喜歡他不跟我說話的遊戲。

That means about to be a lot of elbows is about to be a lot of smack hard fouls is gonna be really physical.

這意味著即將有大量的肘擊即將有大量的猛烈犯規將會是真正的體能。

And you probably think it's a finesses.

而你可能認為這是一個細枝末節。

Kobe is.

科比是。

You don't think he get down there and get grimy and get greedy.

你不覺得他下去後會變得灰頭土臉，變得貪婪。

This guy here, those elbows, he offensive foul put elbows in your back, my elbow you on your nose or your neck and I'm gonna give you 11 inches.

這傢伙在這裡，這些肘部，他進攻犯規把肘部放在你的背部，我的肘部你在你的鼻子或脖子，我會給你11英寸。

Kobe Bryant goes to the hole and I'm talking about foul pushing me, pushing me, pushing me and they called a family e couldn't believe it because he was fighting like he was getting away with a lot of stuff.

科比-布萊恩特走到洞口，我說的是犯規推我，推我，推我，他們叫了一個家庭e不敢相信，因為他在戰鬥，就像他正在擺脫很多東西。

You wanna lose my tip?

你想失去我的小費嗎？

I just I just laid down on the ground.

我只是... 我只是躺在地上。

I said, It's about to be a war I knew then I was first team all defense that work at the time and energy that the President Doc was putting in my ear.

我說，這是要打仗了，我知道當時我是第一隊所有的防守，工作的時候和精力，總統多克在我耳邊。

Paul Pierce trying to gas me up.

保羅-皮爾斯想給我加油。

You just put all that together.

你只是把所有的東西放在一起。

That was the reason why I didn't let my head down guarding them like like he might hit 567 in the ropes.

這也是我為什麼沒有低頭守著他們的原因，就像他可能會在繩索裡打567一樣。

So what?

那又怎樣？

So what?

那又怎樣？

He was just the most cocky is confident.

他只是最狂妄的是自信。

I want to say arrogant, but he just knew he was the greatest player like at all times.

我想說傲慢，但他就是知道自己是最偉大的球員，就像在任何時候。

And I wanted to compete with that that mentality, knowing that I was the best defender.

而我想用這種心態去競爭，知道自己是最好的後衛。

You're a physical defender.

你是個體能型的防守者。

There's no question like you watch your game.

沒有問題，就像你看你的比賽。

Everybody knows that you're a very physical defender.

每個人都知道你是一個非常有體力的後衛。

Did you get the sense that he enjoyed the physicality?

你有沒有感覺到他很享受這種體能？

No, I had no idea.

不，我不知道。

This is the greatest player that I haven't played against in the world.

這是我沒有和世界上最偉大的球員交手過。

I've never thought he'd even acknowledged Kobe Toughest defender for you.

沒想到他竟然承認了科比最強悍的防守者給你。

Tony Allen is easy e It was only when it wasn't crying.

託尼-艾倫很容易e只有在它不哭的時候。

E would have loved to have a sit down with him.

E很想和他坐下來談談。

You know, we laugh and joke about him winning and 10 us winning in a.

你知道嗎，我們笑著開玩笑說他贏了，我們10個人贏了。

But for him to acknowledge that, I just didn't know where th he was talking about, you know, because I want to get more in depth and probably build a friendship or whatever more so than anything.

但對於他的承認，我只是不知道他在說什麼，你知道，因為我想得到更多的深度，可能建立友誼或什麼的比什麼都重要。

And, uh, I wanted Thio emulate that same that same kind of academy on the defensive side and then I looked back.

而且，呃，我想Thio效仿同樣的那種在防守方面的學院，然後我回頭看了看。

We look at those competitors.

我們看看這些競爭對手。

Way got, let's say Kobe and ta Yeah, that was one of the watchman.

方式了，比方說科比和ta是的，那是看守人之一。

Look at the records.

看看記錄。

Would you say that he was the toughest shotmaker that you ever saw play the game?

你會說他是你見過的最強悍的射手嗎？

Most definitely one that just popped in my mind.

最肯定的是，我腦海中剛剛浮現出一個。

I hate to throw Hall of Fame flash out there, but remember Kobe Bryant, that three at the buzzer, it off the glass for the game That just goes to show you he his degree of difficulty.

我不想把名人堂的東西扔在那裡，但還記得科比-布萊恩特，在比賽結束時的三分，它從玻璃上掉下來，這說明了他的困難程度。

You said you and him didn't go back and forth very much on talking.

你說你和他沒有來來回回的說過很多話。

But I would imagine that at some point in all the years you played, you saw him go at one of your teammates.

但我可以想象，在你打球的這些年裡，你看到他對你的一個隊友下手。

You know, John back and forth, which is the one that sticks out the most that you just laugh when you think about him.

你知道的，約翰前後左右，這是一個最突出的，你只要一想起他就會笑。

John with one of your teammates.

約翰和你的一個隊友在一起

I used to always see him.

我以前總是看到他。

Paul, you know, bigger at each other, you know, But for the most part, man, I didn't really see Kobe talked too much, man because he was all about business.

保羅，你知道的，彼此都比較大，但是大部分時候，我並沒有看到科比說得太多，夥計，因為他只顧著做生意。

It was like he was ready to get this this moment.

他彷彿已經做好了準備，這一刻。

No way he could do that little moment right there's like there's nothing else to talk about.

沒辦法，他能做到這一點的時刻，就像沒有什麼可說的。

That's when it's time for him to start saying way, all playing that we all play them off.

這時候他就開始說方式了，都玩我們都玩掉了。

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