We got Connor back.

我們把康納救回來了

Which one of these fighters do you think has had a bigger impact on Emma?

你認為這些拳手中，哪一位對艾瑪的影響更大？

They both had a huge impact.

他們都產生了巨大的影響。

I'm gonna go with John Jones, and I'll tell you why.

我會選擇約翰-瓊斯，我會告訴你為什麼。

Yeah, if you're ah, feisty small athlete, you're gonna be a fighter.

是啊，如果你是啊，勇敢的小運動員， 你會成為一個戰士。

That's where the money is and there ain't no There's no like pound for pound best point guard.

那是錢的所在，沒有人比得上最好的控衛。

If you can't, you're you're playing with giants.

如果你不能，你就是在和巨人玩。

There's no no one cares if you're the pound for pound best linebacker.

沒有人在乎你是不是最好的後衛。

If you're too small to play linebacker, weigh £150 you ain't playing in the NFL.

如果你個子太小，打不了後衛，體重150英鎊，你就別想進NFL了。

You're not playing major league baseball, likely Jose Altuve.

你不是在打大聯盟的棒球，很可能是何塞-阿爾圖夫。

For every Jose Altuve, you know, there's a million other guys.

每一個何塞-阿爾圖夫，你知道，有一百萬其他的人。

So the good small athletes or incentivized to go into fighting, especially if they have a fighting spirit, boxing and Emma.

所以，優秀的小運動員或激勵他們去戰鬥，特別是如果他們有戰鬥精神，拳擊和艾瑪。

But the big athletes in this country not worldwide in this country notice Stephen A.

但在這個國家不全世界的大運動員都注意到了斯蒂芬-A。

How we're always like what happened in the heavyweight division in boxing, right?

我們怎麼總是像拳擊界的重量級部門發生了什麼，對嗎？

What happened was the NFL in the N B A.

發生的是N B A的NFL。

That's what happened when Mohammed Ali was heavyweight champ.

這就是穆罕默德-阿里當重量級拳王時發生的事情。

If you get a shot at the title in the 19 seventies, you get a shot at Ali.

如果你能在1970年代獲得一次冠軍，你就能在阿里獲得一次機會。

You might make a million bucks, and an offensive lineman in the NFL might make 30 or 40,000.

你可能賺100萬，而NFL的進攻前鋒可能賺3、4萬。

There was financial incentive to go into fighting on that evaporated because of these other leagues.

有經濟上的動力去戰鬥，因為這些其他的聯盟而蒸發了。

But you know what happened when John Jones came on the scene?

但你知道約翰-瓊斯出現後發生了什麼嗎？

John Jones, from a football family, older brother and younger brother, played in the NFL.

約翰-瓊斯，出身於足球世家，哥哥和弟弟都在NFL效力。

Chandler Jones, a star in the NFL.

錢德勒-瓊斯，NFL的明星。

He's an athlete who likes to fight, not a dude who couldn't do other things.

他是一個喜歡打架的運動員，不是一個不能做其他事情的紈絝子弟。

So he's fighting an athlete who likes to fight.

所以他在和一個喜歡打架的運動員打。

And I predict that years from now.

而我預測，多年以後。

Remember the Tiger Woods effect?

還記得老虎伍茲效應嗎？

How it's harder for Tiger to beat these guys now because for the first time, athletes parents were putting golf clubs in their hands.

老虎現在要想打敗這些人是多麼的困難，因為第一次，運動員的父母都把高爾夫球杆放在他們的手裡。

Now Tiger has to face a whole bunch of young guys who are golfing because of him.

現在老虎要面對一大堆因為他而打高爾夫的年輕人。

That's going to be the John Jones effect.

這將是約翰-瓊斯效應。

Big American athletes with options.

美國大個子運動員的選擇。

Look at Jon Jones, and I predict some of those guys are going to be fighters in the future.

看看喬恩-瓊斯，我預測其中一些人將來會成為拳手。

That's a different kind of impact.

這是一種不同的影響。

I'm not disagreeing with any of that, but I would say Connor McGregor Onley From this perspective, Jon Bones Jones eyes the best in the world.

我不是不同意任何一個，但我會說康納-麥格雷戈-昂利從這個角度來看，喬恩-邦斯-瓊斯的眼睛是世界上最好的。

He's demand, and we all know how how legit he is, how lethal he is and probably moving up the heavyweight.

他的需求，我們都知道他是如何合法的，他是如何致命的，可能會移動的重量級。

It's gonna be very interesting to see what he does at that level because he is just phenomenal.

這將是非常有趣的，看看他做什麼在這個水準，因為他只是驚人的。

Having said all of that, he's just a fighter.

說了這麼多，他只是一個戰士。

He's just a Nelly eat fighter.

他只是一個耐力吃的鬥士。

Connor McGregor is something else.

康納-麥格雷戈是另一種東西。

I'm talking box office.

我說的是票房。

I have been Thank you have recency bias right now just because it's been Connor I'm getting.

我一直謝謝你有recency偏見，現在只是因為它一直康納我得到。

I'm getting ready to bring up something that's not recent.

我準備提出一些不是最近的事情。

I've been covering sports for over a quarter century.

我報道體育已經超過四分之一世紀了。

I've been to some major fights.

我參加過一些重要的比賽。

I remember one time I told you, Max, of all the events I mean, I was there when Temple was beat.

我記得有一次我跟你說過，麥克斯，在所有的事件中... ...我是說，坦普爾被打的時候我也在那裡。

You Massieu Masters number five in the nation and Calipari because I was there covering Allen Iverson when they went to the MBA Finals, you know, I mean, I was there something I was there with Jordan hit his shot over Utah that when his last title I was then you talk.

你Massieu大師號在全國和卡利帕裡，因為我在那裡覆蓋阿倫-艾弗森，當他們去MBA總決賽，你知道，我的意思是，我在那裡的東西，我在那裡與喬丹打他的鏡頭在猶他州，當他的最後一個標題，我是然後你說話。

I've seen a lot.

我見過很多。

I saw you had a Golden State game 72 great events I've never seen.

我看到你有一個金州遊戲72大事件，我從來沒有見過。

I felt at the time I never saw anything like when Mike Tyson walked into a ring and I was there when he fought Andrew Galaga in Detroit after he came out of retirement and Connor McGregor against Eddie Alvarez at Madison Square Garden of 2000.

我當時覺得我從來沒有看到過像邁克-泰森走進擂臺那樣的事情，2000年麥迪遜廣場花園的時候，他在底特律和安德魯-加拉加打仗，康納-麥格雷戈對埃迪-阿爾瓦雷茲打仗，我也在現場。

Now, Molly, I would ask you to pause for a second because you've been a lot of great events yourself.

現在，莫莉，我想請你暫停一下，因為你自己也參加過很多偉大的活動。

When Connor McGregor walked into the arena that night, walked in the Madison Square Garden, walked into that octagon.

當康納-麥格雷戈那天晚上走進競技場，走進麥迪遜廣場花園，走進那個八角籠。

I mean, there are very few moments that you see like that in sports.

我是說，在體育界很少有這樣的時刻。

It's something, man.

這是什麼，男人。

And what I'm saying to you is the UFC is in good stead.

而我要告訴你的是，UFC的地位很高。

You look at the pandemic and how it's affected everybody.

你看看這場大瘟疫，它是如何影響到每個人的。

Dana White was pushing, pushing, pushing for events, and the UFC has been blowing up in the ratings.

達納-懷特在推動、推動、推動賽事，UFC的收視率一直在爆棚。

The interest is elevated.

興趣是提升的。

Joe Rogan and all of those dudes doing a great job Aerial Hawaii and those guys doing a great job promoting sport when you look at Connor McGregor and the kind of impact he could have, there is no question.

喬-羅根和所有這些花花公子做得很好空中夏威夷和那些傢伙做得很好促進運動當你看到康納-麥格雷戈和他可能產生的影響，這是毫無疑問的。

I don't think Jon Bones Jones compares in that.

我不認為喬恩-邦斯-瓊斯在這一點上有什麼可比性。

I'm glad you brought up Mike Tyson because here's the thing about Jon Bones Jones.

我很高興你提到了邁克-泰森 因為關於喬恩-伯恩斯-瓊斯的事情是這樣的。

What Tysons appeal was he was the baddest man on the planet.

泰森斯的魅力在於他是這個星球上最壞的人。

Doesn't just mean your heavyweight champ.

不只是指你的重量級冠軍。

It was something extra.

這是額外的東西。

No one took that mantle since Tyson Lennox Lewis was the best, but he was more of a boxer.

自從泰森-倫諾克斯-劉易斯是最好的，但他更像是一個拳擊手，沒有人接過這個衣缽。

Um, you had guys like now Tyson Fury, who's also a boxer, and their British in m m au at Brock Lesner.

嗯，你有像現在泰森-弗瑞這樣的傢伙， 誰也是一個拳擊手， 和他們的英國在m m m au在布洛克-萊斯納。

A big, strong guy.

一個大塊頭，強壯的傢伙。

He wasn't unbeatable.

他不是無敵的。

Randy Couture was great, but he Jon Jones really took the mantle from Taison and in a new way, because it's more like a street fight than a boxing match.

蘭迪-庫爾德是偉大的，但他喬恩-瓊斯真的從泰森手中接過了衣缽，而且是以一種新的方式，因為它更像一場街頭戰鬥而不是拳擊比賽。

As the baddest man on the planet.

作為這個星球上最壞的人。

When you thought of who's the best because he's a heavyweight, Tyson was box office.

當你想到誰是最好的，因為他是一個重量級人物，泰森是票房。

Even after we have learned he wasn't the baddest man on the planet, he was still box office.

即使我們已經知道他不是這個星球上最壞的人，但他仍然是票房。

He's retired at age 50 no doubt, and still, because of that once upon a time, it was at a time.

他50歲就退休了無疑，還是因為曾經的那一次，是在一次。

Once upon a time, McGregor was a bad man, but he was.

曾幾何時，麥格雷戈是個壞人，但他是。

But he's not a heavyweight.

但他不是一個重量級人物。

John Jones.

約翰-瓊斯

John Jones is gonna have an impact that's gonna be felt.

約翰-瓊斯會有一個影響，會被感覺到。

Had an even bigger impact.

產生了更大的影響。

We all know that.

我們都知道這一點。

Course not over yet.

課程還沒有結束。

You know, of course.

你知道，當然。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

Subscribe to ESPN, plus.

訂閱ESPN，加。