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which is not good enough.
這還不夠好。
We're not even close.
我們還差得遠呢
Honestly, for us to be on the receiving end of the disrespectful comments and antics is completely unfair to us.
老實說,對於我們來說,我們是不尊重的評論和滑稽動作的受害者,這對我們完全不公平。
When we have certain guys in the mix that don't wanna buy in.
當我們有某些人在組合中不想買進時,
All this one is gonna be hard and do anything good is a basketball.
這個要難,做什麼好事都是一個籃球。
I love this city.
我愛這個城市。
I literally done everything that I can situations, you know, something that e.
我真的做了一切,我可以的情況下,你知道,東西,E。
I don't think it's breaking news tonight.
我想這不是今晚的重大新聞。
James Harden has been traded.
詹姆斯-哈登已經被交易了。
He gets his wish in every way that trade to the Brooklyn Nets in a blockbuster deal that's gonna have ripple effects throughout the NBA.
他得到了他的願望,在每一個方面,交易到布魯克林籃網隊的大手筆交易,會對整個NBA產生連鎖反應。
A.
A.
All right, Joe.
好吧,喬。
Here's the breakdown of the trade hardened lands with the Nets.
以下是與網隊交易硬地的細目。
Obviously, the Rockets get a package, including Victor Oladipo.
很顯然,火箭隊得到了包括維克托-奧拉迪波在內的一攬子方案。
Four first round picks, four first round swaps.
四個首輪選秀權,四個首輪換。
Indiana gets Caris Levert while Cleveland gets Jared Allen in Taurean Prince.
印第安納得到了卡里斯-勒沃特,而克利夫蘭得到了陶然-普林斯的賈裡德-艾倫。
On that note, we bring in Richard Jefferson, R J.
在這一點上,我們請來了理查德-傑斐遜,R J。
It's been a good minute.
這是一個很好的一分鐘。
Good to see you.
很高興見到你
Uh, you guys.
呃,你們這些傢伙。
Well, I will get to you.
好吧,我會去找你的。
Yeah, in just a minute, sir, but I'm going to start with Max Max or the Rockets winners or losers after this hard and trade.
是的,馬上就好,先生,但我要先從馬克斯馬克斯或者火箭隊的勝負手開始,經過這次硬碰硬的交易。
They're winners in this trade and it's because look, the history of the N B A is.
他們是這場交易的贏家,這是因為看,N B A的歷史是。
Whoever gets the best player in the deal wins the deal, right?
誰在交易中得到最好的球員,誰就贏得了交易,對吧?
So we start with their, we'll start with that.
所以我們從他們的開始,我們就從這個開始。
You want the best player in the deal.
你要的是交易中最好的球員。
But the history also is especially the modern history.
但歷史也特別是現代史。
If a superstar wants to get traded, he's not only going to get traded a superstar in M.
如果一個超級巨星想被交易,他不僅會被交易一個超級巨星在M。
V P caliber player, he's gonna go exactly where he wants a D.
V P口徑的球員,他要去的地方正是他想要的D。
Eventually it took a while.
最終,花了一段時間。
Got to L.
到了L。
A.
A.
Didn't he?
是嗎?
Right?
對吧?
Because they let the other teams No, he ain't gonna re sign.
因為他們讓其他球隊拒絕了,他不會再籤。
He's gonna resign with L.
他要和L辭職了。
A.
A.
They traded him to L.
他們把他交易給了L。
A.
A.
And they got what they could.
他們得到了他們能得到的東西。
Same thing with Harden.
和哈登一樣。
You said Brooklyn Ana, Where did he wind up in Brooklyn?
你說布魯克林安娜,他在布魯克林的哪裡?
And that's because once they become free agents, even if it takes another year, they're just gonna sign there anyway.
而這是因為一旦他們成為自由球員,就算再花一年時間,反正他們就是要在那裡簽約。
LeBron KD they go where they want to go.
勒布朗KD他們想去哪裡就去哪裡。
So that's what the Rockets were working with And what did they get in exchange?
所以這就是火箭隊的工作內容,而他們得到了什麼交換?
They got not just lover who turned into Oladipo.
他們得到的不僅僅是變成奧拉迪波的情人。
Let's not forget, I know he's coming off a catastrophic injury.
不要忘了,我知道他正從災難性的傷病中走出來。
Oladipo's only 28 years old, and Oladipo, not all that long ago, was the best player on a dangerous playoff team.
奧拉迪波才28歲,而奧拉迪波,在不久前還是一支危險的季後賽球隊中最好的球員。
Like he's very good when healthy, if he could get back to what he waas and, more importantly, even four first round picks unprotected.
就像他健康的時候非常好,如果他能回到他的華斯,更重要的是,甚至四個首輪選秀權不受保護。
Now the first two aren't gonna be much because Brooklyn's gonna be really good.
現在,前兩場不會太多,因為布魯克林會很好。
The Milwaukee pick won't be much, you know, or at least the first one for Brooklyn.
密爾沃基的選秀權不會太多,你知道的,至少布魯克林的第一個。
And the first one is the one that got from Milwaukee because Brooklyn had Milwaukee's pick.
而第一個是從密爾沃基得到的,因為布魯克林有密爾沃基的選秀權。
Ain't gonna be great.
不會很好
That is gonna be good teams.
這將是很好的團隊。
But by 2024 do we know what Brooklyn's gonna be by 2026 7?
但到了2024年我們知道布魯克林會變成什麼樣子嗎2026年7?
Do we know what Brooklyn's gonna be?
我們知道布魯克林會是什麼嗎?
Because not only did they get four picks, they have four unprotected first round swaps.
因為他們不僅得到了四個選秀權,還有四個不受保護的首輪換。
So if Brooklyn winds up with a better pick, then Houston Houston gets to trade.
所以如果布魯克林贏得了更好的選秀權,那麼休斯頓休斯頓就可以進行交易。
And given the age of the roster and what they gave up, Brooklyn's gonna be really good for a little while.
考慮到球隊的年齡和他們放棄的東西,布魯克林會在一段時間內變得非常好。
And then probably not so good.
然後可能就不太好了。
Houston, considering the way their hands were tied, made off like bandits.
休斯敦,考慮到他們的手被捆綁的方式,就像強盜一樣逃走了。
Here they got a hall, Max, You think about the hall and you're thinking about picks, and I respect that.
他們在這裡有一個大廳,馬克斯,你想的是大廳,你想的是選秀,我尊重這一點。
I get where you're coming from and I'm not trying to sit up there and say that I disagree because I hate I don't want to classify them as losers.
我明白你的來意,我不是想坐在那裡說我不同意,因為我討厭我不想把他們歸類為失敗者。
But for the purposes of this conversation, the question that was presented to us, I'd lean towards that than winning because of this.
但就這次談話的目的而言,向我們提出的問題,我傾向於這一點,而不是因為這個而獲勝。
All of those things you mentioned involved unknown entities outside of Victor Oladipo.
你提到的所有這些事情都涉及維克多-奧拉迪波之外的未知實體。
And I know Victor Oladipo can ball.
而且我知道維克多-奧拉迪波會打球。
We still haven't seen him return to the Victor Oladipo.
我們仍然沒有看到他回到維克多-奧拉迪波的身邊。
We know and love because obviously ravaged that knee.
我們知道並愛著,因為很明顯地蹂躪了那個膝蓋。
And he's getting back and props to him because he's still averaging over 20 a game.
而他回來了,支持他,因為他仍然平均每場比賽超過20。
He didn't wanna be Indiana anymore.
他不想再當印第安納了
They couldn't work out.
他們無法解決。
Uh, you know, such a, you know, contractual situation.
呃,你知道,這樣一個,你知道,合同的情況。
Neither side could come to on the court and we get all of that.
雙方都不能上場,我們都懂。
So you're gonna get him and parenting with John Wall who I've been very pleased by.
所以,你會得到他和父母與約翰-沃爾誰是我一直很高興。
Like what I've seen from John Wall.
就像我從John Wall身上看到的一樣。
And I think he's only gonna get better and better, to be quite honest.
而且我認為他只會越來越好,說實話。
You, um but the bottom line is this You don't really have a known entity.
你,嗯... ...但底線是... ...你沒有真正的已知實體。
All of those picks, what are they gonna manufacture into?
所有這些選秀權,他們要製造成什麼?
I'm a Knicks fan, as you well know, and I wish Kobe top and nothing but the best.
我是尼克斯的球迷,你很清楚,我祝願科比頂天立地,萬事如意。
And, you know, I think that he's got potential, but everybody knows I was on the record.
而且,你知道,我認為他有潛力, 但每個人都知道我是在記錄。
One.
一。
Tyree's Halliburton and look at what he's doing in Sacramento right now.
泰瑞的哈利伯頓公司 看看他現在在薩克拉門託做的事情。
You just don't know who's gonna draft to.
你只是不知道誰會起草到。
And I was gonna work out.
而我要去工作了。
You have to wait and see.
你得等著瞧。
The Houston Rockets had an opportunity to get Ben Simmons.
休斯頓火箭隊有機會得到本-西蒙斯。
Ben Simmons would have come along with another player, Ben Simmons, and another player.
本-西蒙斯會和另一名球員,本-西蒙斯,以及另一名球員一起出現。
Maybe like that kid Maxie out of Kentucky or somebody else, along with a draft pick or two, I think could have been better.
也許像肯塔基的那個孩子Maxie或者其他什麼人,再加上一兩個選秀權,我覺得可能會更好。
And I think James Harden and forced their hand even though they were talking about it.
而且我認為詹姆斯-哈登和逼迫他們的手,即使他們在談論這個問題。
He expedited the process and prevented them from dragging their feet any longer by doing by doing and saying that things that he did and said which I don't necessarily applaud, but I totally understand what he was doing in terms of trying to get the hell out of Houston.
他加快了這一進程,防止他們再拖後腿,通過做的事情和說的事情,他做的事情和說的事情,我不一定會鼓掌,但我完全理解他在試圖離開休斯頓的地獄方面所做的事情。
In the end, what it comes down to is that Ben Simmons doesn't shoot.
最後,歸根結底是本-西蒙斯不投籃。
He does everything else.
其他的事情都是他做的。
He's special.
他很特別
And if I got the opportunity to get my hands on somebody like a Ben Simmons, and I could get somebody else who can play and shoot the basketball along with a couple of pics, and I'm not saying definitively that they could have had a couple of pics, I know they could have had at least one, but Philly had all their picks available to them.
如果我有機會得到一個像本-西蒙斯這樣的人,我可以得到其他能打球和投籃的人,同時還能得到幾張照片,我並不是明確的說他們可以得到幾張照片,我知道他們至少可以得到一張,但是費城有他們所有的選秀權可以使用。
They weren't willing to unload both Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris.
他們不願意同時卸下本-西蒙斯和托比亞斯-哈里斯。
It was just gonna be Ben Simmons and another player, one of the younger guys.
這只是會是本・西蒙斯和另一個球員, 一個年輕的傢伙。
I think that potentially might end up having been a better option than just loading up on a bunch of picks because they're unknowns, particularly with state of college basketball being what it is right now.
我認為這有可能是一個更好的選擇,而不是僅僅因為他們是未知數而加載了一堆選秀權,特別是大學籃球的狀態是什麼,它是現在。
I just think that I would have gone the route of a surefire do that I know could get it done on the night and night house basis.
我只是覺得,我會走一個我知道的肯定能在夜夜屋基礎上完成的路線。
That's just me.
這只是我的想法。
Yeah.
是啊。
No, no.
不,不。
Stephen, I agree with you in theory.
斯蒂芬,理論上我同意你的觀點。
You know, when we're talking about who wins this trade, we can't.
你知道,當我們在談論誰贏得這筆交易時,我們不能。
It's hard to really go in tow what they could potentially have gotten with other teams, right?
很難真的去拖他們有可能在其他球隊得到的東西吧?
So it's kind of like Okay, well, in this situation, who won this trade?
所以這有點像好吧,在這種情況下,誰贏得了這筆交易?
And I was always taught in order for it to be a fair negotiation.
而我一直被教導為了是公平的談判。
Both sides need toe walk away a bit unhappy, right?
雙方都需要趾高氣揚地走,有點不開心吧?
It's like you look at what Houston got Now they've got a ton of pick now.
就像你看看休斯敦得到了什麼,現在他們已經得到了大量的選擇。
Understand how they got James Harden?
明白他們是如何得到詹姆斯-哈登的?
They got James Harden because they had a ton of picks many, many years ago, and they turned those picks into James Harden.
他們得到了詹姆斯-哈登,因為他們在很多很多年前有大量的選秀權,他們把這些選秀權變成了詹姆斯-哈登。
Now, a lot of times, thes pigs aren't always used on players.
現在,很多時候,這些豬並不總是用在玩家身上。
And I agree with you, Tyree talent burden has been falling for Sacramento.
而且我同意你的觀點,泰利天賦負擔一直落在薩克拉門託身上。
He's been playing great, so that was definitely a steel.
他的表現一直很好,所以這絕對是一個鋼。
And kudos to Sacramento for pulling that one off.
為薩克拉門託的成功點贊。
But when you really break down this Houston situation, maybe those picks aren't drafted players.
但當你真正分析休斯頓的這個情況時,也許那些選秀權並不是選秀球員。
Maybe these picks and all that you've accumulated allows you to go get another player, allowed you to go get an All Star, are an all star caliber player.
也許這些選秀權和你所積累的一切,讓你可以去得到另一個球員,讓你可以去得到一個全明星,是一個全明星級別的球員。
So when I look at the future in the leverage of what Houston has, I think it is fair.
所以當我用休斯頓所擁有的槓桿來看待未來時,我認為這是公平的。
And I look at, you know, Brooklyn.
我看著,你知道,布魯克林。
They gave up, Ah lot to get James Harden, who has been disgruntled.
他們放棄了,啊很多得到詹姆斯-哈登,他一直不滿。
He hasn't been.
他還沒有。
He's not in great shape.
他的狀態不是很好。
He, you know, you can see you know how he kind of left the situation.
他,你知道,你可以看到你知道他是如何離開的情況。
So when I look at it, I think both sides got what they wanted and what they needed to help their teams move forward.
所以,當我看到這一點時,我認為雙方都得到了他們想要的東西和他們需要的東西,以幫助他們的球隊前進。
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