So they're gonna have toe adopt some changes, Rachel, Because while there definitely are positive tests happening, we know of a lot of them.

所以他們必須做出一些改變，瑞秋 因為雖然肯定有陽性的測試發生，但我們知道有很多這樣的測試。

What's really causing games to be postponed is the contact tracing when one player gets a confirmed test and then, all of a sudden they have to put six or seven players into a contact tracing protocol.

真正導致比賽延期的是接觸追蹤，當一名球員得到確認的測試，然後，他們突然不得不讓六七名球員進入接觸追蹤協議。

So the idea here would be to amend some of the day to day procedures so that you won't have to put his many players in contact tracing, keep them farther apart, put some more measures in it, maybe not have contact tracing, be so long so that you wouldn't have a devastating effect on a team.

所以這裡的想法就是修改一些日常的程序，這樣你就不用把他的很多球員進行接觸追蹤，把他們的距離拉得更遠，把一些更多的措施放在裡面，可能沒有接觸追蹤，這麼長的時間，這樣你就不會對一個球隊產生破壞性的影響。

But there's another message is gonna have to get through.

但有另一個消息是要去必須得到通過。

Rachel.

瑞秋。

There are hundreds of players in this league who have had co vid over the last nine or 10 months.

在這個聯盟中，有數百名球員在過去的9個月或10個月裡有co vid。

There are certain teams that have had double digits.

有某些球隊有兩位數。

I've heard at least one team thinks its entire roster has the antibodies, but, um, that does not necessarily mean as we saw with Kevin Durant, who has admitted he had covered in the past that you can't be put into contact tracing.

我聽說至少有一支球隊認為它的整個名冊都有抗體，但是，嗯，這並不一定意味著正如我們看到的凱文-杜蘭特，他已經承認他在過去覆蓋了，你不能被放入接觸追蹤。

And so players may be instructed to change their behavior off the court away from team facilities even if they're operating under the belief that they have something protection with co vid.

所以球員們可能會被要求改變他們在球場外遠離球隊設施的行為，即使他們是在相信他們有什麼保護與co vid的情況下操作。

And that's gonna be, ah, hard sell as well.

而這也會是，啊，難賣的。

Yeah.

是啊。

I mean, this is difficult.

我的意思是，這很難。

This is, uh this is a difficult circumstance.

這是，呃... ...這是一個困難的情況。

While Cove it is peaking at its highest moments right now, I do think that they're gonna have to put more protocols in place to try to protect these guys.

雖然Cove它現在正處於最高峰，但我認為他們必須制定更多的協議來保護這些傢伙。

But at the end of the day, I think people are just going to get it.

但到了最後，我想大家還是會明白的。

Um, you know, it's just inevitable.

嗯，你知道，這只是不可避免的。

It's too many different layers to it to where people have contacts and can possibly, you know, contracted.

它有太多不同的層次，它的地方 人們有接觸，並可能，你知道，合同。

And so I think teams, they're gonna have to keep, you know, really being strict with their players.

所以我認為球隊必須要保持對球員的嚴格要求，你知道的。

Players have to be pros about this to make sure that everyone staying healthy in the building and ultimately we're gonna see postponed games.

球員必須是專業的，以確保每個人都保持健康的建設，最終我們會看到延後的比賽。

That's just gonna be part of the deal.

這只是會是交易的一部分。

But I do think they're gonna keep moving forward, and eventually maybe by the time we get to the playoffs.

但我確實認為他們會繼續前進，最後也許到了季後賽的時候。

You may see another bubble then, and now we get everybody in the building like we did in Disney last year, which went off amazing.

你可能會看到另一個保麗龍，那麼，現在我們讓大家在建築物中，就像去年在迪斯尼一樣，這去了驚人的。

But I think they got to get to that point.

但我認為他們必須要到那個地步。

And look, if you wanna be high in the standings, if this is important to you to go after this championship, then you have to make sacrifices about where you go and who you interact with.

聽著，如果你想在積分榜上高居榜首，如果這對你來說很重要，要去追逐這個冠軍，那麼你就必須對你去的地方和你與誰的互動做出犧牲。

And if teams aren't taking care of business and their whole team is getting cove it, then somebody or multiple people on that team is not really serious about what they're doing and not being professional.

而如果團隊沒有把業務處理好，整個團隊都得到了隩，那麼這個團隊中的某個人或多個人就不是真正的認真做事，不專業。

So I do think the lady has to be very strict about this, and they have to get a hold on this so that we can move forward with a successful season.

所以我確實認為女士要對這件事非常嚴格，他們必須要掌握好這件事，這樣我們才能成功地推進一個賽季。

It's important distinction, right?

這是重要的區別，對吧？

People who test positive for Cove.

科夫測試陽性的人。

It hasn't necessarily done anything wrong.

它不一定做錯什麼。

There are so many people I know who have tried to do everything the right way, and this virus creeps in that how this works.

我認識的很多人都試圖用正確的方式來做一切事情，而這個病毒卻悄悄地進入了，這怎麼行。

But there is also a matter of Hey, you can try to mitigate your risk and your point about having to sacrifice goes exactly to what Brian was just saying.

但是還有一個問題嘿，你可以嘗試降低你的風險，你說的必須犧牲的觀點正好和Brian剛才說的一樣。

The idea that in players, personal lives, especially, do you and I'm not talking about crazy stuff, I'm not talking about wildly irresponsible stuff.

在玩家，個人生活中，尤其是，你和我說的不是瘋狂的東西，我說的不是瘋狂的不負責任的東西的想法。

I'm talking about the same stuff the rest of us are all grappling with.

我說的是我們其他人都在努力解決的問題。

Hey, we haven't had barbecue in six months.

嘿，我們已經半年沒吃過燒烤了。

Can we finally have one?

我們終於可以有一個了嗎？

It's outside.

這是在外面。

Hey, my kid really is desperate for just some human contact.

嘿，我的孩子真的是絕望的只是一些人類的接觸。

They wanna play with their friends, these air things that all Americans are dealing with every day as the spike in coronavirus case.

他們想和朋友一起玩，這些空氣中的東西，所有的美國人每天都在應對冠狀病毒病例的激增。

You can't even call it a spike anymore.

你甚至不能再叫它穗子了。

Just the way cases continue to mushroom in this country are dealing with and the level of sacrifices that players may be asked to make from here on out.

只是這個國家繼續蘑菇的案件處理方式，以及可能要求玩家從此做出的犧牲程度。

To mitigate some of the contact tracing issues that Brian is talking about.

為了緩解Brian所說的一些聯繫追蹤問題。

Kevin Durant.

凱文-杜蘭特

The example he gave a friend or family member having a positive test is what caused him to sit right for those days, even though he already had cove it, even though he did test to still have antibodies.

他舉的例子是朋友或家人有一個陽性的測試是導致他坐在正確的那幾天，即使他已經有cove它，即使他確實測試仍然有抗體。

Now we don't know enough toe have him just mixed with the rest of team, so he had to sit.

現在我們不知道夠不夠讓他和其他隊友混在一起，所以他不得不坐著。

And it's going to be harder and harder for players to just live their daily lives.

而對於玩家來說，只過自己的日常生活會越來越難。

And to your point is, they have to decide.

而你的觀點是，他們必須決定。

Is it worth it?

值得嗎？

It's what I started the show with.

我就是以這個節目開始的。

Is it worth it?

值得嗎？

We're all having to decide over and over again every day with every interaction we have.

我們每天的每一次互動，都要反覆決定。

Is it worth it?

值得嗎？

And it exports extends to what Doc Rivers was upset about in that Philly game Saturday against the Nuggets.

而這出口延伸到週六費城對掘金的那場比賽中，多克-裡弗斯的不滿。

The seven players who played three played more than 40 minutes, including rookie Tyreese Maxi, who scored 39.

7名球員中，有3人出場時間超過40分鐘，其中新秀泰瑞克-馬克西得到39分。

Doc explained before the game his concern about any of his players playing that much.

醫生在賽前解釋了他對任何球員打那麼多比賽的擔憂。

Take a listen.

聽一聽吧

I'm more concerned with health on the floor.

我更關心的是地上的健康。

You know, we're gonna play players tonight that haven't played ah, lot of minutes, you know, I'm not gonna you know.

你知道，我們今晚要打的球員 沒有打啊，很多分鐘， 你知道，我不會你知道。

So when you got seven bodies, if someone's gonna have to play 40 plus minutes and so and that's not just for today, that's long term health.

所以，當你有七個身體，如果有人要打40多分鐘等等，這不僅僅是為了今天，這是長期的健康。

You know, with the accused's relation of games, you know, it's the numbers.

你知道，與被告的遊戲關係，你知道，這是數字。

We want to stay away from what?

我們要遠離什麼？

Our players, All right, So if it is, you know Doc's pain you've had to manage minutes in your time is the head coach.

我們的球員，好吧，所以，如果它是，你知道醫生的痛苦，你必須在你的時間管理分鐘是主教練。

What was your concerns be when faced with the same situation is Doc?

當你面對同樣的情況時，你的顧慮是什麼？

He's hitting it on the head.

他一針見血地指出了問題所在。

I mean, the one thing I think all of us coaches have become over the last few years is like sports scientists like like unofficially, right?

我的意思是，我覺得我們所有的教練在過去幾年裡都變成了像體育科學家一樣的非官方的，對吧？

So we have learned that there is a science to the fact that if a guy is playing so many minutes, say, five minutes a game, low minute guy and all of a sudden he jumps up to 40 minutes a night playing competitive NBA basketball against the best players in the world that could lead to injury, especially over cumulative nights.

所以我們瞭解到，如果一個人打了那麼多分鐘，比如說，每場比賽5分鐘，低分鐘的人，突然間他跳到了40分鐘，每晚和世界上最好的球員打競爭性的NBA籃球，可能會導致受傷，尤其是在累積的夜晚。

And so he's right.

所以他是對的。

And so again, the league is gonna have to figure out how do we work this So that one, we're protecting our players from Cove it, But at the same time, we're protecting our players on the court from getting serious injuries, you know, pulls, you know, twist things like that that could have you out for a whole year for six months things like that.

所以聯盟必須想辦法解決這個問題 我們要保護球員不受傷害 但同時也要保護球員在球場上不受重傷 拉傷 扭傷之類的傷病 可能會讓你缺席一整年六個月

And so yes, doctors, Right, When you're a coach, you're trying to manage all of this.

所以是的，醫生，對，當你是一個教練，你要管理這一切。

And when you got seven guys, you really don't have a choice.

當你有七個人的時候，你真的沒有選擇。

Most of those guys, we're gonna play close to 40 plus minutes, and that's just the situation that you're.

這些人中的大多數，我們要打接近40多分鐘，這只是你的情況。

When they came up with this eight player rule, it wasn't in the cove it era.

當他們想出這個八人規則的時候，並不是在cove it時代。

And maybe maybe it would happen one time or two times a year in the entire n b A.

而且也許也許會在整個n b A每年發生一兩次。

And maybe it would just happen for one night because a guy or two had had a twisted ankle or or was under the weather for one day.

而且也許會因為一兩個人腳踝扭傷了，或者或者一天天氣不好，就只發生一個晚上。

This this rule, this a player rule was not built for contact tracing the last seven days.

這個這個規則，這個一個玩家規則不是為了聯繫追蹤過去七天而建立的。

And so there's really only two options.

所以其實只有兩個選擇。

Your they're gonna have to reevaluate the contract tracing rules as a result of new protocol.

由於新的協議，你的他們要重新評估合同追蹤規則。

Or they're gonna have to consider expanding the rosters, which they've already done.

或者他們要考慮擴大名冊，他們已經這樣做了。

Ah, little bit of by allowing 10 day contracts, which they don't usually allow this point in the season.

啊，一點點通過允許10天的合同，他們通常不允許在賽季的這個點。

We've seen a couple of teams signed hardship players before this season started.

本賽季開始前，我們已經看到有幾支球隊簽下了困難球員。

Rachel, the MBA kicked around, extending the amount of two way players from two per team toe, four per team or even, you know, negotiate to three.

瑞秋，MBA踢來踢去，把雙向球員的數量從每隊兩個人擴大到腳趾，每隊四個人，甚至，你知道的，協商到三個人。

They ended up not doing that.

他們最終沒有這樣做。

They may have to relook at that to see, to give a little bit of more of a buffer.

他們可能要重新審視一下，看看，多給一點緩衝的時間。

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