Again, What are your sources saying?

再說一遍，你的消息來源是什麼？

Brand?

品牌？

Yeah, this is obviously concerning.

是的，這顯然是令人擔憂的。

It's happened in the last few days or week or so two weeks of several players, you know.

這是在過去幾天或一週或兩週內發生的幾個球員，你知道。

And this is something that you know the C D.

而這個東西，你知道C D。

C.

C.

Doesn't have a handle on yet.

還沒有處理好。

We really don't know how long immunity last.

我們真的不知道免疫力能持續多久。

We don't know whether it has to do with viral load and things like that that are all medical terms.

我們不知道這是否與病毒載量等都是醫學術語有關。

We also you know, there's also players who have been testing positive since March.

我們也你知道，也有球員從3月份開始就一直在測試陽性。

That's been 10 months.

已經10個月了。

And maybe if they tested positive in March or April, when the testing wasn't has developed and there were possibilities of false positives that some players who may test positive again, we didn't really have it the first time.

也許如果他們在3月或4月測試陽性，當測試不已發展和有可能的假陽性，一些球員誰可能再次測試陽性，我們並沒有真正有它的第一次。

But this is something that the league believes this happened.

但這是聯盟認為發生的事情。

They believe they've had several incidences of reinfection, and this is an education point for the league.

他們相信他們已經發生了幾起再感染事件，這是聯盟的一個教育點。

Rachel, as you were mentioning one of the things that has been happening.

瑞秋，你剛才提到的一件事，已經發生了。

There's so many players, hundreds of players, I really do believe in talking to people that have had this virus over last 7 to 10 months believe that they have a level of immunity and they're operating like that away from the court, and that could be contributing to the rise in cases.

有這麼多球員，數百名球員，我真的相信在與過去7到10個月內有這種病毒的人交談時，相信他們有一定的免疫力，他們在遠離球場的地方進行這樣的操作，這可能會導致案件的增加。

So part of this reality is that they have to educate players and say, Just because you've had it doesn't mean you can act like you would in a normal time.

所以這個現實的一部分就是他們必須教育玩家說，你得了這個病，並不意味著你可以像平時一樣行事。

How do you think everything that we just discussed everything that the league has put out they're going to now start doing is going to sit with teams and players?

你覺得我們剛剛討論的一切聯盟已經放出的所有東西他們現在要開始做的事情會如何坐實球隊和球員？

And how effective do you think it's gonna be?

你覺得它的效果如何？

Well, being stuck in a home is going to be a big push back because there are players who are routinely going out to dinner with one another, routinely spending time away from their homes again because so many of them believe they have antibodies.

好吧，被困在家裡會是一個很大的反擊，因為有的玩家經常性的互相出去吃飯，經常性的再離家出走，因為他們很多人相信自己有抗體。

And frankly, most of them probably do.

坦率地說，他們中的大多數人可能都會這樣做。

Um, but the problem Rachel is not necessarily the infections.

嗯，但問題瑞秋不一定是感染。

It's the contact tracing its.

是接觸追蹤其。

When one player on the team becomes positive, it's it's six or seven.

當隊裡有一個球員變得積極的時候，就是它的六七個人。

Others have to be shut down, and now you're shut down for a week for that and you're missing all these games.

別人要關機，現在你為此關機一週，你就會錯過這些比賽。

Obviously, they're worried about infections, but they're also trying to limit how many guys get affected so that maybe they conserve.

很明顯，他們擔心感染，但他們也在試圖限制多少人受到影響，這樣也許他們就能節約。

Survived, But they can keep playing through a positive test, you know, one on a team as opposed to shutting down most of the roster.

生存下來，但他們可以通過陽性測試繼續比賽，你知道，一個團隊中的一個人，而不是關閉大部分的名單。

All right, I want to bring Richard and Paul back into the conversation.

好吧，我想讓理查德和保羅回到談話中。

So given everything, Richard, I mean, you remember the first month or so of locked down in most states around the US We're not supposed to go outside for anything, and that is basically except the grocery store.

所以，鑑於一切，理查德，我的意思是， 你還記得第一個月左右的鎖定 在美國大多數州周圍 我們不應該去外面做任何事情， 而這基本上是除了雜貨店。

And that is basically what they're telling players the rest of the season is going to be like until they're vaccinated.

而這基本上就是他們告訴球員們，在他們接種疫苗之前，本賽季剩下的時間都會是這樣的。

How How would you guys react to this if you were still playing today?

如果你們今天還在玩，你們會有什麼反應？

One.

一。

Let me compliment the MBA first, the fact that they're not trying to rush to the front of the line to get all of their players vaccinated.

先讓我誇一下MBA，他們不是想衝在最前面，讓所有的球員都打疫苗。

That's step one, because this is costing millions of dollars.

這是第一步，因為這要花費數百萬美元。

They dedicated a ton of money to get all of the the stuff done in the bubble, so it's like They're like, Hey, no, it needs to be first for, you know, our first line people, healthcare workers, those of the people that being said, the contract tracing I don't want to say it's too much, but there's no way.

他們投入了大量的資金，讓所有的東西在保麗龍中完成，所以它就像他們一樣，嘿，不，它需要首先為，你知道，我們的一線人員，醫療工作者，那些人說，合同跟蹤我不想說這是太多了，但有沒有辦法。

It's like, Well, you guarded him.

這就像，嗯，你保護他。

So you need to go away because they have testing that.

所以你需要離開，因為他們有測試。

That's where I will say, the Bradley Beal Jayson Tatum thing is where they haven't done that.

這就是我要說的，布拉德利-比爾-傑森-塔圖姆的事情是他們沒有做到的地方。

But But that looks like where it's going.

但是... ...但這看起來像是要去的地方。

They're trying to like.

他們是想喜歡。

Okay, well, maybe if we put you away then so you know everybody was guarding Jayson Tatum, right?

好吧，也許我們可以把你關起來 讓你知道每個人都在保護傑森-塔圖姆，對嗎？

So it's like you have toe on Lee.

所以，這就像你對李的腳趾一樣。

Do it when someone tests positive.

當有人測試呈陽性時再做。

When you're trying to sit players down and trying to do this stuff, it's going toe, ADM.

當你想讓球員坐下來，想做這些事情的時候，就會有腳趾，ADM。

Or because now you're I understand contact tracing, but you can't do it when you're playing games to this extent.

還是因為現在你是我理解的聯絡追蹤，但你玩遊戲到這種程度，你就做不到了。

Yeah, it's kind of contradicting, you know, go into a game and I'm playing him all game.

是啊，這有點矛盾，你知道，進入一個遊戲，我玩他所有的遊戲。

But I go in the protocol for talking to him after the game and so, but this is a big concern for me because I know people.

但我在賽後和他談話的協議中去了，所以，但這是我的一個大問題，因為我認識的人。

That's been affected by Cove in 19.

這在19年就受到了庫夫的影響。

And, you know, as the cases grow, um, people are dying out here, so I'm a player.

而且，你知道，隨著案件的增長， 嗯，人們死在這裡，所以我是一個球員。

You know, this not only affects the player, but it effects.

你知道，這不僅影響玩家，而且影響。

You know, family members if you're around them kids, uh, people you're close to And this is a real concern of my I think we really need to really take a step back as the lead and take this a little more serious.

你知道，家庭成員，如果你在他們身邊的孩子，呃，你接近的人，這是一個真正的關注我的，我認為我們真的需要真正採取後退一步，作為上司，並採取這種更嚴重一點。

Because me personally, I know people have been affected by Cove in 19 has lost their lives, and, you know, as the number of cases continue to grow, uh, I'm not even sure about even moving forward.

因為我個人，我知道的人 已經受到影響的Cove在19已經失去了他們的生活， 而且，你知道，隨著案件的數量 繼續增長，呃，我甚至不知道 關於甚至前進。

I know there's a lot of money involved in their behavior.

我知道他們的行為涉及很多錢。

Yeah, but is it worth a person's life at the end of the day?

是啊，但到最後值得一個人的生命嗎？

Yeah.

是啊。

I mean, look, I think what you're seeing today these new protocols, it is what you say, Paul.

我的意思是，你看，我認為你今天看到的這些新協議，是你說的，保羅。

It is the MBA saying All right, we got to take it more seriously even than we have been.

就是MBA說好了，我們要比以前更認真了。

We've got to tighten up.

我們必須要收緊。

I want to make a point about the contact tracing the Richard.

我想說的是，關於聯繫追查理查德。

I think the Beale Tatum case is a bit of an outlier.

我覺得Beale Tatum的案子有點離譜。

Most of what we've seen with the contact tracing guys who have been out of games have been teammates, right, who have been in close proximity without a mask to a teammate who test positive.

我們所看到的接觸追蹤的傢伙，大部分已經出局的都是隊友吧，他們在沒有戴面具的情況下，近距離接觸到了測試陽性的隊友。

And basically, what these new rules today are basically forbidding is any of that kind of contact so that if in the future a guy test positive for Covitz, at least within the team functions and they can't help it if to Blair's get together at someone's house toe, hang out there telling guys not to do that.

而今天的這些新規定，基本上禁止的就是任何這種接觸，所以，如果將來有一個人的科維茨測試呈陽性，至少在球隊職能範圍內，他們也沒辦法，如果到布萊爾的聚餐，在別人家的腳趾頭，掛在那裡，告訴大家不要這樣做。

But within the team they could say, Look, one guy got it, no one else has to sit because no one else was around him without a mask outside of the game itself.

但在球隊內部，他們可以說，你看，有一個人得到了它，其他人不必坐著，因為在比賽本身之外，沒有其他人在他周圍沒有面具。

And even on the bench is they're telling guys to know our masks.

甚至在替補席上，他們也在告訴大家要認識我們的面具。

Yeah, but this is the issue with it.

是的，但這是它的問題。

We knew that this was going to happen, so I just think that for us to be shocked at, like, how are we gonna we need?

我們知道，這是怎麼回事， 所以我只是覺得，我們要震驚， 喜歡，我們怎麼會我們需要？

And I agree, like we should have the step back.

我同意，就像我們應該有後退的步驟。

Should have been before we took a step forward.

應該是在我們邁出一步之前。

Look at football.

看看足球。

Look at baseball.

看看棒球。

Look what's happening in college.

看看大學裡發生了什麼。

We knew that this was going to be the case.

我們知道會是這樣的。

So 72 games, that was that was kind of a stretch.

所以72場比賽，那是那是一種延伸。

They're right.

他們是對的

They wanted it was ambitious and have the schedule.

他們希望它是雄心勃勃的，有時間表。

Yes, and that's why.

是的，這就是原因。

And that's why they did it.

所以他們才會這麼做。

But ultimately, I think the best thing for this toe continue is just to push through.

但最終，我覺得這個腳趾繼續下去，最好的辦法就是挺過去。

We know that's the only way is gonna get ugly teams they're gonna probably be should be.

我們知道這是唯一的方法是要去得到醜陋的球隊，他們可能會應該是。

Second might be 7th, 8th team might be third.

第二可能是第七，第八隊可能是第三。

You don't you don't know.

你不... ...你不知道。

But if you're going to and the players air okay with their own personal safety and they are willing to set up and do this, I think you just continue to push forward with all the protocols and realizing that it might end up being a 50 game season.

但是，如果你要和球員空氣沒關係，他們自己的個人安全，他們願意設置和這樣做，我認為你只是繼續推進所有協議，並意識到這可能最終是一個50場比賽的賽季。

And I'm and I'm okay with it as long as the players are.

而我和只要玩家們都能接受。

Yeah, that's the question that I have, you know?

是的，這就是我的問題，你知道嗎？

How does it affect guys who are missing games?

這對缺陣的傢伙有什麼影響？

You know, like the Celtics have had three games postponed?

就像凱爾特人隊有三場比賽被延後一樣？

Will they have a chance in the season to make up those games are not because if not, then you have a number of teams not playing the same amount of games.

他們會不會有機會在本賽季彌補那些比賽是不是因為如果沒有，那麼你有一些球隊不打相同的比賽量。

But it could come to that possibility.

但它可能會出現這種可能性。

Then you cramming in games at the end of the year.

然後你在年底擠進遊戲。

You're playing back to back to back.

你在玩背靠背。

You know that's gonna affect teams.

你知道那會影響到球隊。

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