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  • >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

    >> Stephen:歡迎回來,各位。

  • MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT WAS ALSO IN THE CAPITOL WHEN IT WAS

    今晚我的下一位嘉賓也在首都,當時是...

  • OVERRUN BY VIOLENT EXTREMISTS.

    被暴力極端主義分子佔領。

  • WE TAPED THIS INTERVIEW RIGHT BEFORE CONGRESS RESUMED THEIR

    我們錄下了這段採訪,就在國會開始之前。

  • DEBATE THIS EVENING.

    今天晚上的辯論。

  • HERE IS MY CONVERSATION WITH REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN OF

    以下是我與美國共和黨議員的對話。

  • ILLINOIS, ADAM KINZINGER.

    伊利諾斯州,亞當-金澤。

  • CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON THIS EXTRAORDINARY AND

    議員,謝謝你來這裡參加這個特別的和

  • EXTRAORDINARILY TERRIBLE DAY.

    異常可怕的一天。

  • I'M SO SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TODAY ON THE CAPITOL FOR OUR

    對於今天在首都發生的事情,我很抱歉,對於我們的...

  • COUNTRY, BUT ALSO FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

    國家,但也是為了你和你的員工。

  • IS EVERYBODY OKAY?

    大家都還好嗎?

  • >> YEAH, EVERYBODY'S GOOD.

    >> 是的,每個人都很好。

  • I ACTUALLY-- I'VE BEEN ANTICIPATING THIS FOR A WHILE,

    我其實... ... 我一直在期待這一段時間。

  • AND SO I DIDN'T HAVE STAFF COME IN TODAY.

    所以我今天沒有員工來。

  • I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.

    我很感謝你。

  • BUT WE'RE KIND OF UNDER SIEGE HERE, IT FEELS LIKE, A LITTLE

    但我們在這裡有點下不了臺,感覺就像...

  • BIT.

    BIT。

  • >> Stephen: THAT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU PERCEIVED

    >> Stephen:有趣的是,你觀察到了

  • THIS THREAT AHEAD OF TIME BASED UPON KNOWING THAT THERE WAS

    這種威脅提前知道,有一個時間基礎上的

  • GOING TO BE THIS RALLY DOWN THE STREET AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

    在白宮的街道上,將是這次集會。

  • IS THAT-- IS THAT WHAT PUT YOU ON GUARD?

    是... ... 是什麼讓你戒備?

  • >> YEAH, IT IS.

    >> 是的,就是這樣。

  • YOU KNOW, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS HEAR, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS OF THE

    你知道嗎,你只需要聽一聽,你知道的,那句話就可以了。

  • PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY STORMING D.C. AND

    主席談及基本攻入華盛頓和

  • DIFFERENT WORDS PRIOR TO THIS, CONVINCING PEOPLE THAT AN

    在這之前的不同話語,讓人們相信,安

  • ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

    選舉被偷了。

  • IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT AN ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND THE

    如果你真的相信選舉被偷了,而且... ...

  • GOVERNMENT'S RUN BY, YOU KNOW, AS QANON BELIEVES SAINT ANIST

    政府是由,你知道的,卡農相信聖安東尼奧所控制的

  • PED FILES YOU CAN EXPECT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN

    PED文件,你可以期待這樣的事情發生。

  • AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHATTER ON TWITTER WITH PEOPLE TALKING

    你可以在微博上看到人們的聊天記錄。

  • ABOUT 1776 MOMENTS.

    關於1776年的時刻。

  • I KNEW IT WAS COMING.

    我就知道會這樣

  • I WASN'T SURPRISED.

    我並不驚訝。

  • BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A SURPRISING DAY.

    但這無疑是令人驚訝的一天。

  • >> Stephen: WELL, TELL US WHAT IT WAS LIKE IN THE CHAMBER.

    >> Stephen:好吧,告訴我們它是什麼樣子的商會。

  • WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT THAT IT WAS HAPPENING?

    你什麼時候發現這一切的?

  • AND HOW WERE YOU INFORMED THAT YOU NEEDED TO LEAVE FOR YOUR

    你又是怎麼得知你要離開的?

  • SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF THE STAFF?

    安全和工作人員的安全?

  • >> YOU KNOW, I WAS LUCKY, BECAUSE I WAS ON THE HOUSE FLOOR

    >> 你知道嗎,我很幸運,因為我在房子的地板上。

  • AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCEEDINGS.

    訴訟程序開始時:

  • AND AS I STARTED TO LOOK AT TWITTER AND I WAS GETTING REALLY

    當我開始看微信,我得到了真正的。

  • KIND OF THAT FEELING THAT SOMETHING WAS ABOUT TO GO DOWN.

    有種感覺,好像有什麼事情要發生。

  • AND, YOU KNOW, PLUS THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH EARLIER IN

    還有,你知道的,加上總統早些時候的講話。

  • THE DAY PUT ME ON EDGE.

    這一天把我逼上了絕路。

  • AND THEN I STARTED TO SEE THE BARRICADES WERE BEING STORMED.

    然後我開始看到街壘被攻破了。

  • AND I MADE THE DECISION THEN TO GO BACK TO MY OFFICE AND I'M

    然後我就決定回到我的辦公室去,我就...

  • GLAD I DID.

    很高興我做到了。

  • I MOO FRIENDS AND STUFF I TALKED TO ON THE FLOOR, IT WAS

    我MOO朋友和東西,我跟在地板上,它是。

  • OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING SURREAL, LIKE "END OF TIMES" KIND OF

    很明顯是個很真實的東西,就像 "時代的終結 "一樣。

  • MOVIE.

    電影:

  • AND WHEN THEY'RE PULLING THE ESCAPE HOODZ AND PUTTING THEM ON

    而當他們拉開逃學生頭巾,把它們放在身上的時候

  • THEIR HEADS, WHICH WE NEVER THOUGHT WE'D HAVE TO USE, THAT'S

    他們的頭,我們從來沒有想過我們會使用,這就是。

  • CRAZY.

    瘋了

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE SAID AND DONE TO

    >> 史蒂芬:你認為需要說什麼,做什麼?

  • CALM THE SITUATION DOWN?

    冷靜下來?

  • BECAUSE YOU WERE NEVER ONE-- YOU HAVE CONSTANTLY BEEN A CRITIC OF

    因為你從來沒有一個... ... 你一直是一個責備的人

  • THE IDEA OF OPPOSING THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION.

    反對選舉證書的想法。

  • YOU'VE CALLED THE PRESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR IRRESPONSIBLE, EVEN

    你說總統的行為是不負責任的,甚至是:

  • BEFORE THE ELECTION.

    在選舉前。

  • BUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW SO THAT THIS IS NOT PERCEIVED AS

    但是,現在需要做什麼,才能使這一事件不被認為是

  • NORMAL?

    正常?

  • WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THOSE PEOPLE, THE MAJORITY OF THE

    這些人,即大多數人,需要發生什麼事?

  • REPUBLICANS IF YOU COMBINE THE SENATE AND THE MEMBERS OF THE

    共和黨人如果把參議院和眾議院的議員合併在一起。

  • HOUSE, THOUGHT THAT THIS DENIAL OF THE CERTIFICATION ARGUMENT

    眾議院認為,這次拒絕簽發證明書的論據,是為了讓公眾有更多選擇。

  • WAS A GOOD IDEA.

    是一個好主意。

  • WHAT-- WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THOSE PEOPLE?

    什麼 -- 什麼需要發生在這些人身上?

  • >> WELL, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY THING

    >> 好吧,你知道,不幸的是,唯一的東西

  • THAT CAN HAPPEN IS A POLITICAL DECISION.

    可以發生的是一個政治決定。

  • BUT ON LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, LEADERS IN THIS PARTY WHO

    但在領導力方面,你知道,本黨的領導人是誰?

  • CONVINCED PEOPLE THAT SOMEHOW CONGRESS COULD MAGICALLY PICK

    讓人們相信,某種程度上,國會可以神奇地選擇。

  • THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT

    美國的下一任總統,因為他們認為這是個好主意。

  • WAS GOING TO BE EASIER TO JUST AVOID THAT PAIN OF SAYING, "NO,

    會是更容易只是避免痛苦的說,"不,"。

  • IT'S NOT POSSIBLE," THAN WHAT WE FACE NOW.

    這是不可能的,"比我們現在面對的。

  • I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A REAL AWAKENING MOMENT IN OUR PARTY.

    我是說,我們必須在我們的黨內有一個真正的覺醒時刻。

  • THE G.O.P. HAS GOT TO GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF CULTURE WARS AND

    G.O.P.必須擺脫文化戰爭的業務,並。

  • GET BACK INTO THE BUSINESS OF GIVING PEOPLE HOPE AND

    回到給人們帶來希望的業務中去,併為他們提供更多的機會。

  • OPPORTUNITY AND ACTUALLY MAKING THE CASE FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE,

    機會和實際為我們所相信的東西提出理由。

  • INSTEAD OF THINKING WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH POWER AND ALL-CAPS

    而不是認為我們可以通過權力和大寫的方式來實現。

  • TWEETS.

    TWEETS。

  • >> Stephen: THERE'S A QUOTE THAT IS SOMETIMES ATTRIBUTED TO

    >> Stephen:有一句話,有時是歸功於

  • HUEY LONG AND SOMETIMES SAINT CLAIRE LEWIS "WHEN FASCISM COMES

    HUEY LONG和有時的聖克萊爾-劉易斯 "當FASCISM來了"。

  • TO AMERICA IT WILL BE CLOAKED IN AMERICAN FLAGS."

    "對美國來說,它將披上美國的旗幟。"

  • WAS THIS AN ATTEMPTED FASCIST COUP?

    這是一個企圖的法西斯主義夫婦?

  • AMERICAN TERRORISM?

    美國恐怖主義?

  • HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE IT?

    你會如何給它定性?

  • >> I CHARACTERIZE IT AS A COUP ATTEMPT.

    >> 我把它描述為一個聯合的嘗試。

  • THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE UNITED STATES IS THE GUARDRAILS, THE

    美國的好處是有警戒線,有警戒線,有警戒線。

  • CONSTITUTION WILL HOLD.

    憲法將保持。

  • BUT THE ONE THING IT DOES SHOW US IS THE FRAGILITY OF

    但它向我們展示了一件事,那就是它的脆弱性。

  • DEMOCRACY.

    DEMOCRACY。

  • AND WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE STORMING THE CAPITOL, SAYING

    而當你讓人們在國會遊行,說:

  • THINGS LIKE 1776, A FEW PEOPLE WITH CONFEDERATE FLAGS COME AND

    事情就像1776年一樣,一些帶著聯邦旗的人來到這裡,然後。

  • OCCUPY THE CAPITOL, YOU SEE GUNS DRAWN IN THE PEOPLE'S CHAMBER,

    佔領首都,你會看到人民會堂裡有槍。

  • YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS DEBATE IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AND YOU SEE A

    你知道,這場辯論應該在哪裡發生,你看到一個。

  • PRESIDENT NON-REPENTANT ON TWITTER, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A COUP

    主席在微博上不悔改,這絕對是一個COUP。

  • ATTEMPT.

    試圖。

  • THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'D CALL IT IF IT HAPPENED IN BELARUS OR ANY

    如果發生在貝拉魯斯或其他地方,我們就會這樣稱呼它。

  • OTHER COUNTRY.

    其他國家:

  • >> Stephen: I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE

    >> 我相信你已經看過那張照片了。

  • SECURITY OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER OF THE HOUSE WITH THEIR GUNS

    眾議院會議廳裡的安全官員與他們的槍。

  • DRAWN POINTED AT THE BROKEN WINDOW OF THAT FAMOUS DOOR THAT

    指著那扇著名的門的破損的窗子說

  • WE ALL SEE THE PRESIDENT WALK THROUGH FOR THE STATE OF THE

    我們都看到主席在發表國情諮文時的講話。

  • UNION, THAT YOU WALK THROUGH EVERY DAY AS A PART OF YOUR JOB,

    工會,你每天都要走過,作為你工作的一部分。

  • WILL YOU EVER LOOK AT THAT DOOR THE SAME WAY AGAIN?

    你還會再以同樣的方式看那扇門嗎?

  • >> NO, I NEVER WILL.

    >> 不,我永遠不會。

  • AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW THERE ARE BULLET SCARS IN THE HOUSE FROM A

    事實上,你知道家裡有子彈傷痕,是由一個人造成的。

  • TERRORIST ATTACK IN THE 50 FRONTAL SYSTEM I THINK PUERTO

    恐怖襲擊在50前沿系統,我想普埃託。

  • RICAN SEPARATISTS.

    RICAN SEPARATISTS:

  • AND THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF SHOWN AS WHAT CAN HAPPEN.

    這總是有點像什麼能發生。

  • THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THING.

    這將是另一件事。

  • IN 50 YEARS WHEN PEOPLE GIVE TOURS, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK

    50年後,當人們進行巡迴演出時,他們會說話。

  • ABOUT THOSE BULLET SCARS AND THE SCARS FROM TODAY.

    關於那些子彈疤痕和今天的疤痕。

  • BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE DEMOCRACY WILL SURVIVE.

    但我告訴你,民主黨會生存下來的。

  • BUT PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO GET OUT OF THISWITH A DIFFERENT OPINION,

    但是,人們必須要走出這個有不同的意見。

  • PASSIONATELY DEBATE BUT RECOGNIZE THAT POLITICS WAS

    激情辯論,但要認識到政治是一種手段

  • INVENTED TO PREVENT VIOLENCE AND OUR POLITICS HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR

    為了防止暴力而發明的,我們的政治已經被破壞了。

  • SO LONG.

    這麼長的時間。

  • >> Stephen: YOU TWEETED, "LEADERS WHO LED THIS SHOULD ALL

    >> 史蒂芬:你在推特上說,"上司這一切的領導人都要

  • RESIGN SO THE ADULTS AND TRUTH TELLERS CAN RESTORE OUR G.O.P."

    "辭職,讓成年人和說真話的人恢復我們的G. O. P."

  • WHO ARE THOSE LEADERS?

    誰是這些領導人?

  • COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC?

    你能再具體點嗎?

  • DOES IT INCLUDE THE...

    它是否包括...

  • THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT?

    主席和副主席?

  • SHOULD THEY LEAVE NOW?

    他們現在應該離開嗎?

  • SHOULD THE 25th AMENDMENT BE INVOKED?

    是否應該援引第25條修正案?

  • >> YEAH, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO NAMING NAMES, BUT ON THE

    >> 是的,所以我不想進入命名的名字,但在上。

  • PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

    主席,我想這是我們需要研究的問題。

  • IF HE'S GOING TO STAY IN OFFICE-- YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY TWO

    如果他要繼續留任,你知道,只有兩個人

  • WEEKS SO HOW YOU CAN QUICKLY DO THIS.

    周,所以你如何能快速做到這一點。

  • IF HE'S GOING TO STAY IN OFFICE AND CONTINUE TO BE NONREPENTANT

    如果他要繼續留任,繼續不悔改的話

  • ON TWITTER AND SAY PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE VIOLENT BUT THEY

    在微博上說,人們不應該是暴力的,但他們。

  • WERE JUSTIFIED IN DOING THIS, I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT

    他們有理由這樣做,我認為這是一個對話,

  • WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW MORNING, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE

    明天早上就會發生,我想,你知道,我們會看到的

  • WHERE THAT GOES.

    哪裡去了。

  • BUT THE REALITY IS EVERYBODY THAT LED LED-- YOU KNOW, OUR

    但現實是每個人都在發光,你知道,我們的。

  • SUPPORTERS WHO LOOK TO US FOR TRUST, THEY DESERVE TO TELL THE

    向我們尋求信任的支持者,他們有資格告訴我們。

  • TRUTH TO THEM NOW.

    現在對他們說實話。

  • >> Stephen: WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN A VOCAL CRITIC OF THE

    >> Stephen:雖然你一直在大聲責備美國政府,但你也一直在責備美國政府。

  • PRESIDENT, DID YOU VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT LAST YEAR?

    主席,你去年有否投票支持廢除死刑?

  • >> NO, I DIDN'T.

    >> 不,我沒有。

  • >> Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKE ANOTHER BITE AT THAT APPLE?

    >> 史蒂芬:你想再咬一口那個蘋果嗎?

  • >> I THINK IF IT WAS DIFFERENT NOW, I WOULD CERTAINLY-- IF I

    >> 我想如果現在情況不同,我肯定會... ...

  • KNEW WHAT I KNOW NOW I WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.

    知道我所知道的,我肯定會考慮的。

  • I WILL SAY, A BIG DIFFERENCE BEFORE THE ELECTION AND AFTER

    我要說的是,選舉前和選舉後有很大的區別。

  • THE ELECTION WHEN YOU TRY TO UNDERMINE THE VERY PINNINGS OF

    當你試圖破壞選舉的關鍵時刻

  • DEMOCRACY, SIGNIFICANTLY DANGEROUS.

    民主,非常危險。

  • >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

    >> Stephen:我們必須要快速休息一下。

  • WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL ASK REPRESENTATIVE KINZINGER HOW

    等我們回來後,我會問金辛格代表如何

  • COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD ARE SEEING WHAT HAPPENED IN AMERICA

    世界各國都在看美國發生了什麼?

  • TODAY.

    今天。

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