Rogers owns the M V P in all Pro selection accolades.

羅傑斯在所有專業評選榮譽中擁有M V P。

Advantage by just one in each category.

優勢每類只佔一個。

But really the bigger difference here in something to pay close attention to his.

但真正更大的區別在這裡的東西要密切注意他的。

Rogers is in his 16th season, Mahomes in just his fourth season.

羅傑斯是第16個賽季，馬霍姆斯只是第四個賽季。

NFL reporter Kimberly Marten, now here with us.

NFL記者Kimberly Marten，現在和我們在一起。

Dominique, I want to start with you here has Mahomes Injustice.

多米尼克，我想從你開始，這裡有馬霍姆斯的不公正。

Four seasons shown enough to surpass Rogers in the all time go list?

四個賽季的表現足以在歷史圍棋榜上超越羅傑斯?

I think so.

我想是的

I know how ridiculous it sounds because he's only been a starter for two years.

我知道這聽起來有多可笑，因為他只當了兩年的主力。

Like I know what.

就像我知道什麼。

You guys gonna pull out all these longevity stats, and I know it makes you turn your nose up.

你們要拿出所有這些長壽的數據，我知道這讓你們很不爽。

I know it's think a little bit, but I believe it.

我知道這有點想當然，但我相信。

I believe it because we saw the rundown and saw the rundown of the stat comparison.

我相信，因為我們看到了數據對比的攻略，看到了數據對比的攻略。

We saw it.

我們看到了

That's how we measure greatness.

這就是我們衡量偉大的方式。

And we measured by Super Bowls All Pro's Pro Bowls.

而我們以超級碗全職業選手的職業碗來衡量。

We measured by those sorts of things, and I understand that that Patrick Mahomes fall short and MVPs I forgot to throw that in there.

我們用這些東西來衡量，我明白，帕特里克-馬霍姆斯落選，MVP我忘了扔在那裡。

Patrick Mahomes fall short and some of those areas, or actually only in the M V P area, because he hasn't played nearly as long.

帕特里克-馬霍姆斯的落差和一些領域，或者說實際上只是在M V P領域，因為他幾乎沒有打過那麼長時間。

But what Patrick Mahomes has done for this league or done to this league.

但帕特里克-馬霍姆斯為這個聯盟做了什麼，或者說對這個聯盟做了什麼。

And I remember when Aaron Rodgers, he got a late start, also had to sit behind Brett Favre's.

而我記得當阿倫-羅傑斯，他起步較晚，也不得不坐在佈雷特-法夫爾的後面。

I remember when he came in and we were like, Damn, that boy is good But there is something different about what Patrick Mahomes has done in this short period of time, and I do think we could blame it on a lot of different people.

我記得當他進來的時候，我們就像，該死的，那個男孩很好但是帕特里克-馬霍姆斯在這短短的時間內所做的事情有一些不同的東西，我確實認為我們可以將其歸咎於很多不同的人。

But I do think the fact that Aaron Rodgers on Lee has won Super Bowl it's gonna hurt him because he make it one this year.

但我認為阿倫-羅傑斯對李的事實已經贏得了超級碗，它會傷害他，因為他使它一今年。

Maybe he has another shot.

也許他還有一次機會。

Next year is gonna be really hard, but we'll see.

明年會很難，但我們會看到。

I think this season, if they play each other and the Super Bowl, which Lord willing, that we get that.

我想這個賽季，如果他們互相比賽，還有超級盃，這是主的意願，我們會得到的。

I think that will be fantastic.

我認為這將是夢幻般的。

And, you know, in the fourth quarter it's gonna come down to one of those guys, and we have never seen passion.

而且，你知道，在第四節，它的會 下來這些傢伙之一， 我們從來沒有見過激情。

Mahomes not step up in those moments.

馬霍姆斯在那些時刻沒有站出來。

The playoffs is when we have we, the legend is born of these players.

季後賽的時候當我們擁有我們，傳奇的誕生這些球員。

That's when we decide whose greatest and it reminds me of a little known but my favorite scene in the movie and the Malcolm X movie.

這時，我們決定誰的最偉大，它讓我想起了一個鮮為人知的，但我最喜歡的電影和馬爾科姆X電影中的場景。

Malcolm X.

Malcolm X.

It's Denzel Washington planet character.

是丹澤爾-華盛頓的星球角色。

He's sitting at a table in the restaurant having ice cream with Sister Betty.

他坐在餐廳的一張桌子上，和貝蒂姐姐一起吃冰激凌。

Then Raj, from what's happening, walks in.

然後Raj從發生的事情中，走了進來。

And he says, Hey, Brother Malcolm, I think Brother Johnson got attacked.

他說，嘿，馬爾科姆兄弟，我想約翰遜兄弟被襲擊了。

And you know what?

你知道嗎？

Malcolm looks at him.

馬爾科姆看著他。

He says, I'm sorry, Sister Betty.

他說，對不起，貝蒂姐姐。

He'd get up and go toe work.

他起床後就會去工作。

That's how Patrick Mahomes is in the fourth quarter when they are down in the playoff.

這就是帕特里克-馬霍姆斯在季後賽第四節落後時的表現。

He said he looked at Sister Betty and he know how much he lover, they're gonna fall in love and have a bunch of Children.

他說他看著貝蒂姐姐，他知道他有多愛，他們會相愛，會有一堆孩子。

It's time to go toe work.

是時候去工作了。

Get up.

起來吧

He got a job to do.

他有工作要做。

He stand up and walk out.

他站起來走了出去。

Aaron, Aaron Rodgers has some of those moments.

亞倫，亞倫-羅傑斯有一些這樣的時刻。

Oh, you You know what it is?

哦，你知道這是什麼嗎？

I got something to tell you later too, but anyway, go ahead.

我待會也有話要跟你說，但不管怎樣，你先說吧。

Go ahead.

去吧

Kimberly.

金佰利

No, no.

不，不。

I want you get ready.

我要你準備好。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

Yeah.

是啊。

I absolutely disagree with what With what Tom is saying, and I'm a huge Patrick Mahomes fan.

我絕對不同意湯姆所說的，我是帕特里克-馬霍姆斯的忠實粉絲。

Like when?

比如什麼時候？

When I when I see Patrick Mahomes and you see them do some of those things, What do we always say, though we haven't seen any quarterbacks do these things except Aaron Rodgers.

當我當我看到帕特里克-馬霍姆斯，你看到他們做一些這些事情，我們總是說，雖然我們還沒有看到任何四分衛做這些事情，除了阿倫-羅傑斯。

Or there hasn't been a quarterback come into the league and take over the way he has physically since Aaron Rodgers.

或者說自從阿倫-羅傑斯之後，還沒有一個四分衛進入聯盟，接管他的體能方式。

Or he makes some throws that Onley Aaron Rodgers could make like.

或者他做出一些安利阿倫-羅傑斯能做出的投籃，比如。

That's a reason that you make that comparison.

這就是你做這種比較的原因。

There's a reason that these are the same guys that are talked about in the same ways because we've seen things for them from our arm talent standpoint that we haven't seen from other people.

這些人之所以被人津津樂道，是有原因的，因為從我們的臂力天賦角度來看，我們已經看到了他們的東西，而這些東西是我們沒有從其他人身上看到的。

We watched them make throws that we haven't watched other people make and also the success toe.

我們看著他們做出了我們沒有看過別人的投籃，也是成功的腳趾。

Add to that right, Aaron Rodgers winning a Super Bowl early on in his tenure as a starter coming back the next year and winning the MVP.

再加上吧，阿倫-羅傑斯作為主力球員早早就贏得了超級碗，第二年回來就獲得了MVP。

So you see all those things that Patrick Mahomes is very similar, but when J dropped the song remember, every day of star is born and James basically running through, you know he's like you know, DMX dropped and Eminem dropped, and he's kind of talking about all these people and all these people had these fast starts and they dropped these hot albums and he was basically saying like, I'm trying to give you all the torch, but y'all don't want Take it And at the time, Wheezy was going hard.

是以，你看到所有這些事情，帕特里克-馬霍姆斯非常相似，但當J放棄了這首歌記得，每一天的明星誕生和詹姆斯基本上跑過，你知道他就像你知道，DMX下降和Eminem下降，他有點談論所有這些人，所有這些人都有這些快速的開始，他們放棄了這些熱門專輯，他基本上說，我試圖給你所有的火炬，但你們都不想要Take it而當時，Wheezy正在努力。

He's like, I see what Wayne do with it and so that's where we at.

他說，我知道韋恩會怎麼做，所以我們就這樣了。

That's what we are now with Patrick Mahomes.

這就是我們現在的帕特里克-馬霍姆斯。

From an eye test standpoint, Aaron Rodgers is the best I've ever seen.

從眼力測試的角度來看，阿倫-羅傑斯是我見過的最好的。

He's the best I've ever seen.

他是我見過的最好的。

Tom Brady still the goat because of all his accomplishment, Aaron Rodgers is still playing.

湯姆-布雷迪還是山羊，因為他的成就，阿倫-羅傑斯還在玩。

Obviously, Tom Brady is to Patrick.

很顯然，湯姆-布雷迪是帕特里克的。

Mahomes can do less from a team accolade perspective and still end up being the greatest of all time because of how good he is.

從球隊榮譽的角度來看，馬霍姆斯可以做得更少，但最終還是會因為他的優秀而成為最偉大的球員。

But right now, today, Aaron Rodgers is on a higher plane is on a higher level when we start to list off the greatest quarterbacks of all time, because some of those accolades that take time to gain and attain have to be done with experience have to be done with years, and Patrick Mahomes just hasn't done enough.

但現在，今天，阿倫-羅傑斯是在一個更高的平面上是在一個更高的水準上，當我們開始列舉出最偉大的四分衛的時候，因為有些榮譽是需要時間來獲得和達到的，必須要用經驗來完成，必須要用年限來完成，而帕特里克-馬霍姆斯只是還沒有做夠。

I'm gonna be I'm gonna be quick.

我要... ...我要快。

Excuse me, Sister Kim.

對不起，金姐。

Kimberly.

金佰利

I just wanted to let you know that you wanna welcome you thio first take on U p N.

我只是想讓你知道，你想歡迎你第一次參加U P N。

But I do wanna also why?

但我也想知道為什麼？

Why?

為什麼？

Why?

為什麼？

Ryan Clark, where he made a mistake.

萊恩-克拉克，他犯了一個錯誤。

She started talking about arm talent.

她開始說起手臂的天賦。

And I'm gonna bring his own created stat that becomes that will become sort of that.

而我要把他自己創造的統計，成為將成為那種。

Coaches and general managers use arm arrogance.

教練和總經理用手臂傲慢。

You know Aaron Rodgers don't got it.

你知道亞倫-羅傑斯沒有得到它。

He don't have it.

他沒有。

He is.

他是。

Protects the ball at all costs.

不惜一切代價保護球。

Patrick Mahomes.

Patrick Mahomes

The difference between Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers, which I agree with you.

帕特里克-馬霍姆斯和阿倫-羅傑斯的區別，我同意你的說法。

Aaron Rodgers has incredible throws, and we are absolutely splitting hairs at this point.

阿倫-羅傑斯有不可思議的投球，我們現在絕對是分身乏術。

Like you can't go wrong with these options is kind of absurd to argue, but your own stat.

像你這些選擇不會錯是一種荒謬的爭論，但你自己的統。

The stat that should be named after Patrick Mahomes.

應該以帕特里克-馬霍姆斯的名字命名的數據。

Arm arrogance.

手臂囂張。

That man is a 10 99 a 1000 and Aaron Rodgers is not.

那人是個10 99個1000，而阿倫-羅傑斯不是。

That is the difference and their greatness in my mind.

這就是我心目中的區別和他們的偉大之處。

And Aaron Rodgers has had failures, and Patrick Mahomes will at some point, but I haven't seen him have it yet.

而阿倫-羅傑斯也有過失敗的經歷，帕特里克-馬霍姆斯也會在某些時候，但我還沒有看到他有過失敗。

I'm sorry.

我很抱歉

I let somebody tell me something that all that all that was cute and all but cute.

我讓人告訴我的東西，所有的一切都很可愛，都很可愛。

Excuse me.

對不起，請原諒

Um, this question actually actually upset me a little bit.

嗯，這個問題其實真的讓我有點不爽。

This'll question, actually upset because I felt it was so disrespectful.

這個會問題，其實很不爽，因為我覺得很不尊重人。

Like to the, like, this man Aaron Rodgers made made doing the discount double check.

像到，像，這個人阿倫-羅傑斯做了做打折雙查。

Cool.

爽啊

Like this.

像這樣

Dude, this dude, I'm sorry.

老兄，這傢伙，我很抱歉。

Like I was critical of how they handled this roster in the draft in the off season because I felt like Aaron Rodgers deserve better.

就像我在休賽期對他們在選秀中如何處理這支花名冊持責備態度一樣，因為我覺得阿倫-羅傑斯應該得到更好的待遇。

Not because Aaron Rodgers couldn't help this team win and carry this team on his back to the playoffs and possibly the Super Bowl.

並不是因為阿倫-羅傑斯不能幫助這支球隊贏球，不能揹著這支球隊打進季後賽，還有可能打進超級碗。

But this man has done so much with less.

但這個人用較少的錢做了這麼多事。

It is very easy to win a Super Bowl when your team is stacked the way the Chiefs are stacked.

當你的球隊堆積成酋長隊的樣子時，贏得超級碗是非常容易的。

What we talk about when we see Kansas City, who they can kill you a number of different ways.

當我們看到堪薩斯城時，我們談論的是什麼，他們可以用多種不同的方式殺死你。

They got speed.

他們有速度。

They got the cube.

他們得到了立方體。

They got the tight end like they got running backs all over the place.

他們得到了緊逼，就像得到了遍地的跑衛一樣。