He swept a 60 win Shaq Penny team in their primes, swept them goodbye and then being a 64 win team with Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp in the finals, Thes were 60 plus wind teams.

他橫掃了一支60勝的沙克-彭尼隊，在他們的巔峰時期，橫掃了他們再見，然後在總決賽中與加里-佩頓和肖恩-坎普一起成為一支64勝的球隊，Thes是60多風球隊。

He beat the Stockton and Malone teams twice.

他兩次擊敗斯托克頓和馬龍隊。

He beat the Magic Johnson James Worthy team when he first won his first title.

他第一次奪得第一個冠軍時，就擊敗了魔術師約翰遜詹姆斯沃西隊。

This idea that Jordan went against soft competition.

這個想法，喬丹去對抗軟性競爭。

The reason?

原因是什麼？

It seems that way because a lot of those cats didn't work when championships because Jordan beaten.

它似乎是這樣，因為很多這些貓沒有工作時冠軍，因為喬丹擊敗。

That's why they didn't win championships because they play in the Jordan era.

這就是為什麼他們沒有獲得總冠軍，因為他們在喬丹時代打球。

Max.

最多。

First of all, I never said Jordan went against soft competition.

首先，我從來沒有說過喬丹去對抗軟性競爭。

I never said that that never came out of my mouth.

我從來沒有說過這句話，從來沒有從我嘴裡說出來。

But what I do know is that I came in the league with LeBron James in 2000 and three and the league was physical.

但我知道的是，我和勒布朗-詹姆斯在2000年和三，聯盟是體能。

The league still had guys like Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal, Stephen Jackson, uh, Shack, Gary Payton.

聯盟裡還有羅恩-阿泰斯特、傑梅因-奧尼爾、斯蒂芬-傑克遜、呃，沙克、加里-佩頓這樣的人。

All these guys were still in the league.

這些人都還在聯盟中。

The league was physical.

聯賽是體能。

The league was physical from 2003 to 2011.

從2003年到2011年，聯賽是體。

No, from 2000 and 12.

不，從2000年和12。

Max Max.

ㄒ唬┛?

First of all, I just told you that Championship should not define should play a major part, but it should not define the whole should not write the whole story.

首先，我剛才跟大家說了，冠軍不應該定義應該起主要作用，但不應該定義整個不應該寫整個故事。

This is not an individual.

這不是個人。

Uh, this is not an individual sport, Max, no matter how you want to say.

呃，這不是一項個人運動，麥克斯，不管你怎麼說。

But that is not the Onley thing, but it's a big thing.

但這不是安利的事情，而是一件大事。

And Stephen A, you're right.

還有Stephen A，你是對的。

You can't hold all the losses in the finals against LeBron like you can't hold going up against that Warriors team with K d.

你不能把總決賽中所有的失利都和勒布朗對著幹，就像你不能和那個有K d的勇士隊對著幹一樣。

Who was gonna beat that team?

誰能打敗那支隊伍？

Let's throw those two out the first time he made the finals with the Cavs.

讓我們把這兩個人扔出去，他第一次和騎士隊一起進入總決賽。

All prepped credit to LeBron for making the finals the first time they lost to the Warriors KD and Chirico.

所有的前期功勞都在勒布朗身上，第一次進入總決賽就輸給了勇士KD和奇里科。

Kevin Love and Kyrie got hurt credit to LeBron for taking it six.

凱文-樂福和凱里受傷功勞勒布朗拿下6。

But the first loss against Dallas in Miami and the last loss against the Spurs in Miami.

但第一場在邁阿密輸給達拉斯，最後一場在邁阿密輸給馬刺。

Those were loaded teams.

那些都是滿載而歸的隊伍。

No excuses.

沒有藉口。

Jordan never lost a series like when Jordan was loaded.

喬丹從來沒有像喬丹滿載而歸的時候，輸掉過一個系列賽。

He never lost series like that.

他從來沒有輸過這樣的系列賽。

All of that just to say you agree with me, Why didn't you just say Stephen, I agree with you.

所有這些只是為了說你同意我的觀點，你為什麼不直接說史蒂芬，我同意你的觀點。

That's exactly what I said, Max.

我就是這麼說的，麥克斯。

I mean, I understand, but the bottom line is, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.

我的意思是，我明白，但底線是， 在一天結束時，它真的不重要。

What it comes down to is LeBron, James and MJ.

歸根結底就是勒布朗、詹姆斯和MJ。

Like Kendrick, Perkins said, They ain't at the same day in the table.

就像肯德里克，帕金斯說的那樣，他們不是同一天上桌的。

I'm not gonna refute that.

我不會反駁的。

KP.

KP.

So you could lift up your head and stop looking depressed pastors past the purpose.

所以你可以抬起頭來，不要再看鬱悶的過去的目的。

All I'm saying is that at the same dinner table, but it ain't MJ look, and I'm not.

我想說的是，在同一張餐桌上，但它不是MJ的樣子，我不是。

I'm not listen to Steven and Max.

我不聽史蒂文和麥克斯的。

This is This is what you are feeling to realize.

這就是這就是你所感受到的實現。

I'm a fan of Michael Jordan's right, but like I said, we could go.

我是邁克爾-喬丹的粉絲沒錯，但就像我說的，我們可以走。

You could come down here toe Texas and I take you straight to the swamps.

你可以到德州來，我直接帶你到沼澤。

Old country bone might why I grew up in and we could go talk with all my great uncles and they go argue, argue down and say Kareem is the greatest of all time.

老鄉骨可能為什麼我從小在，我們可以去和我所有的大叔們哈拉，他們去爭論，爭論下來，說卡雷姆是最偉大的。

Then when we get to your generation, you and Matt pushing 50 line, Y'all go talk.

等我們到了你們這一代，你和Matt到了50歲的時候，你們就去談吧。

Y'all go talk about my Kareem.

你們都去談我的Kareem吧。

It comes my general.

它來我的將軍。

I didn't say he wasn't.

我沒說他不是。

Max cannot finish.

麥克斯無法完成。

I'm just telling you, it could be a argument or debate it prefers is just on what you prefer.

我只是告訴你，它可能是一個爭論或辯論，它喜歡的只是在你喜歡的。

What part of that you don't get?

你有什麼不明白的？

Yeah, but Jordan at the head of the table perc.

是的，但喬丹在桌子上的頭perc。

Jesus, You're the head of the table.

天啊，你是桌子的頭。

Uh, Russell, Kareem and LEBRON or they're going with the head of the table.

呃，拉塞爾、卡里姆和LEBRON還是要和桌頭一起去。

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感謝在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和訂閱ESPN的優質內容，加。