We got the chance to sit down to talk about how he got that way.

我們有機會坐下來談一談他怎麼會這樣。

The Clippers experience in the bubble and the difficulty of parting ways with Doc Rivers.

快船隊在保麗龍中的經歷以及與多克-裡弗斯分道揚鑣的困難。

We also talked about the Clippers new arena.

我們還談到了快船隊的新場館。

Here's our full conversation.

下面是我們的完整對話。

Steve Balmer.

Steve Balmer

A road of going to a championship, is hard as a pair and as a duo, and it has to start with us ready to dive right into this and give everything I have.

一條通往總冠軍的路，是很難的，作為一對組合，也是很難的，必須要從我們開始準備好，馬上投入到這個工作中去，付出我的一切。

This is going to be unprecedented season.

這將是一個前所未有的賽季。

What does it feel like to you to be starting up again?

對你來說，再次創業是什麼感覺？

I'll tell you the craziest thing.

我告訴你最瘋狂的事情。

I went to our first pre season game.

我去看了我們的第一場季前賽。

I sat in the head of Rita, your usedto, you know, 19,000 strong pumping and thumping.

我坐在麗塔的頭上，你的習慣，你知道的，19000強抽打和砰砰。

And I was sitting e don't know 15 20 ft from the court by my myself, kind of lonely in that little place.

我一個人坐在離球場15到20英尺的地方 在那個小地方有點孤獨。

It just feels crazy to be in there.

在裡面的感覺就是瘋狂。

And of course you got to think about the disease.

當然你也得考慮一下疾病的問題。

But the experience, I think, will be a little crazier.

但我想，這種體驗，會更瘋狂一些。

Maybe even than than the bubble because the arenas air so much bigger.

也許比泡泡還大，因為競技場的空氣大得多。

We are used to seeing you as one of the most demonstrative owners in the league.

我們已經習慣了把你看作是聯盟中最有示範性的業主之一。

You're on the sidelines.

你是旁觀者。

Last year during the season opener, you cheered so much you actually tour a hole in your shirt, which was amazing.

去年在賽季開幕式上，你的歡呼聲如此之大，你實際上在你的襯衫上游了一個洞，這是驚人的。

Um, I was fascinated to learn, though, that this wasn't always your personality.

嗯，我很著迷，不過，這並不總是你的個性。

I read an article talking about how used to hyperventilate before Hebrew school because the idea of speaking aloud in front of the whole class was so you were so shy.

我讀過一篇文章，說到在希伯來學校之前怎麼會有過度緊張的感覺，因為在全班同學面前大聲說話的想法讓你很害羞。

It was so off putting to you.

這讓你很不爽。

How did you get from there to here?

你是怎麼從那裡到這裡的？

It's a really good question.

這是一個非常好的問題。

I was super shy.

我當時超級害羞。

Is a super shy as a kid.

是一個超級害羞的孩子。

When I took my first job, Guy started the same day.

當我接下第一份工作時，蓋伊當天就開始工作了。

He described it this way.

他這樣描述道。

Hi, I'm Steve Balmer in my hands, all sweaty.

嗨，我是史蒂夫-巴爾默，在我的手中，一身的汗。

I'm good to meet you.

我很高興見到你。

Um, business school, that was That was me Business school.

嗯，商學院，那是那是我的商學院。

I remember the first time I talked into business school class.

還記得第一次進商學院上課時的談話。

It was could barely get the words out.

是勉強能把話說出來。

And but once I sort of build my moment, um, get comfortable and I would say it was even the same way When about the Clippers, I wasn't gonna just, you know, I could be enthusiastic that that's fine.

但一旦我那種建立我的時刻，嗯，得到舒適，我會說，它甚至是同樣的方式，當快船隊，我是不是要去只是，你知道，我可以是熱情的，這很好。

But, you know, I had to learn my rhythm with the players.

但是，你知道，我必須和球員一起學習我的節奏。

I had to learn my rhythm with the coaching staff.

我必須跟教練員學習我的節奏。

They all flow pretty freely now, But, yeah, I was a little shy and start that to Rachel.

他們現在都很自由，但是，是的，我有點害羞，開始對瑞秋說。

It's been such a short off season.

這是一個如此短暫的淡季。

The bubble is very fresh.

保麗龍很新鮮。

Patrick Beverley had a quote the other day.

帕特里克-貝弗利前幾天說過一句話。

He said, Everyone around here is pissed off, which is good.

他說，這裡的人都很生氣，這很好。

Do you get that same sense?

你也有這種感覺嗎？

Yeah.

是啊。

I mean, look, nobody liked the way our season ended.

我的意思是，你看，沒有人喜歡我們的賽季結束的方式。

Nobody did.

沒有人這樣做。

There's no antidote.

沒有解藥。

Just being randomly angry doesn't do anything.

只是隨便生氣，並沒有什麼作用。

It's crazy.

太瘋狂了

I think there's a variety of ways people deal with adversity.

我想人們應對逆境的方式有很多種。

One is Thio.

一個是Thio。

Go put your head in the sand and deny one is toe.

去把你的頭放在沙子裡，否認一個是腳趾。

You know, get timid.

你知道，變得膽小了。

That's not our guys.

那不是我們的人。

I think our guys say Okay, we're not happy, but we're all about getting better.

我想我們的人說好吧，我們不開心，但我們都是為了變得更好。

How do we get better?

我們如何才能更好的發展？

How do we get better?

我們如何才能更好的發展？

How do we get better?

我們如何才能更好的發展？

You didn't experience what happened in the bubble from afar.

你沒有從遠處體驗到保麗龍中發生的事情。

You were down in Orlando for weeks and weeks at a time leading up to that Game seven in the second round.

你在奧蘭多呆了好幾個星期，一次又一次，一直到第二輪的第七場比賽。

What did it feel like for you to be sitting in the building and watching those last minutes tick off the clock?

你坐在大樓裡，看著最後幾分鐘的時間流逝，是什麼感覺？

I missed not one minute of anything in the bubble until the last 40 seconds, and I just couldn't stand.

直到最後40秒，我一分鐘都沒有錯過任何泡影，我實在受不了了。

E got 40 seconds, e believe.

我有40秒，我相信。

Did you leave the into the concourse?

你是不是離開了大廳？

40 seconds.

40秒

I laughed, and then I saw the crock ease and I went over and congratulated them and the game ended.

我笑了，然後我看到莊稼人輕鬆了，我過去祝賀他們，遊戲結束了。

Coaches are the fall guy, and sometimes it's not warranted.

教練是替罪羊，有時候也是沒有必要的。

Steve Balmer decided.

史蒂夫-巴爾默決定。

We need a fresh start and look, that's a brave, bold move.

我們需要一個新的開始，看，這是一個勇敢、大膽的舉動。

Paul, George and the Clippers have agreed to add four years to his contract.

保羅、喬治和快船隊已經同意在他的合同上增加4年。

Last season, didn't end the playoffs, didn't go the way they wanted them to go.

上個賽季，沒有結束季後賽，沒有按照自己的意願去做。

And certainly there's a lot on Kawhi Leonard and Paul George with the new head coach in Thailand to get this figured out.

當然，卡哇伊-萊昂納德和保羅-喬治身上也有很多東西，泰國的新任主教練要把這個問題搞清楚。

I'm interested, especially your approach to this, because you come from the tech world, you help build Microsoft.

我很感興趣，尤其是你的做法，因為你來自科技界，你幫助建立微軟。

How did that experience affect the way you approach to the N B.

這段經歷如何影響你接近N B的方式。

A team, especially this offseason.

一支球隊，尤其是這個休賽期。

In the tech world, you have version updates.

在科技界，你有版本更新。

Okay, what's a version update?

好吧，什麼是版本更新？

Well, we could do a major upgrade in the summer on.

好吧，我們可以在夏天對其進行一次重大升級。

We could do a minor upgraded to trade that line.

我們可以做一個小的升級來換取這條線。

You know, you think about things in a little bit different perspective.

你知道，你考慮事情的角度有點不同。

Um, sports is more final, you know, Attack.

嗯，體育更終究，你知道，攻。

You could say, Well, improve the product.

你可以說，嗯，改進產品。

Next for lease.

下一個租賃。

Oh, no.

哦，不

Every 24 seconds.

每24秒一次。

You know how you understand?

你知道你是怎麼理解的嗎？

You know, every game, every season and there's no hey, I'll make it up in the future.

你知道，每一場比賽，每一個賽季，有沒有嘿嘿，我將來會補上。

It's all even more accountable.

這一切更要負責任。

Doc Rivers have been with the team since you bought it.

裡弗斯醫生從你買下球隊後就一直在球隊裡。

And really a key point of contact for you.

而且真的是你的一個關鍵聯絡點。

How hard was it to decide you guys should part ways?

決定你們分道揚鑣有多難？

It was very hard.

這是很難的。

I mean, Doc, I would call my mentor.

我是說，醫生，我會打電話給我的導師。

I'm the league E.

我是聯盟的E。

I don't know what it's like for most people when they first come in and as governors, and but I didn't know what I was doing.

我不知道大多數人剛來的時候是什麼樣子，作為州長，但我不知道自己在做什麼。

I learned more from Doc did from anybody else, and I really appreciate his mentorship, but Yeah, it was time.

我從多克那裡學到的東西比任何人都多 我真的很感激他的指導，但是，是時候了。

It was time to try.

是時候試試了。

Try something a little bit different.

嘗試一些不同的東西。

And I respect Doc Itan.

我尊重伊坦醫生

I like Doc Itan.

我喜歡伊坦醫生

I learned Aton.

我學會了阿頓。

And except when the Clippers play the 76 years, I wish it will have a look.

而除了快船隊打76年的時候，我希望它能有個樣子。

You're also trying to improve the team by building a new arena.

你也是想通過建立新的競技場來提高球隊的實力。

Why is it so important to you that you have your own place?

為什麼你有自己的位置對你來說這麼重要？

We need our own home.

我們需要自己的家。

I mean, this is a crazy place, you know, People who spend time in L.

我的意思是，這是個瘋狂的地方，你知道，人們誰花時間在L。

A Fine.

A fine.

I grew up in Detroit.

我是在底特律長大的

In Seattle.

在西雅圖

There was one Pistons.

有一個活塞隊。

There was one SuperSonics.

有一個SuperSonics。

There was no contention to be the basketball team in town.

沒有爭當鎮上的籃球隊。

Well, here there is.

好了，這裡有。

We need our home, our identity, our personality.

我們需要我們的家，我們的身份，我們的個性。

And I will say you didn't ask the state or city for money.

而我要說的是，你並沒有向國家和城市要錢。

You guys are spending the money for this.

你們是花錢買來的。

Do you feel it's gonna fundamentally change who the Clippers are in Los Angeles?

你覺得這會從根本上改變快船隊在洛杉磯的地位嗎？

I think it takes a lot of things for us to fundamentally change who we are.

我想，我們要從根本上改變自己的身份，需要很多東西。

E mean, any one thing.

E是說，任何一件事。

I think it will be another significant milestone, but we've gotta win.

我認為這將是另一個重要的里程碑，但我們必須贏。

I mean, the Arena two.

我是說，競技場兩。

But people want, you know, it's winners that transformed the legacy of the team.

但人們希望，你知道，是贏家改變了球隊的遺產。

What the team really stands for, and it will be a step.

球隊真正代表的是什麼，這將是一個步驟。

But the big step.

但大步。

We'll be getting our hands on one of those pretty little trophies.

我們將得到我們的手 那些漂亮的小獎盃之一。

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