Here's SC athletic director Mike Ball.

這是南加大體育總監Mike Ball.

Obviously, I think their brand in their recent performance, certainly helps them immensely.

顯然，我認為他們的品牌在近期的表現，肯定對他們有很大的幫助。

I mean, coming toe SC.

我的意思是，來SC。

After spending six years in the state of Ohio at the University of Cincinnati, I get a good sense of what their prowess is and and the way they've accomplished so many different things.

在俄亥俄州辛辛那提大學呆了六年，我很清楚他們的實力是什麼，也很清楚他們完成了這麼多不同的事情。

So, you know, I've my hat's off to him.

所以，你知道，我已經向他致敬了。

I've competed against them in from numerous institutions, and I understand that.

我從眾多機構中與他們競爭過，我理解。

I think that's why Friday is a big opportunity for us.

我想這就是為什麼週五對我們來說是一個大機會。

I really do.

我真的很喜歡

I mean, when you start comparing some of the different power indexes and so forth, you know, we'll see how that shakes out.

我的意思是，當你開始比較 一些不同的權力指數等等， 你知道，我們將看到如何搖擺出來。

But our focus right now is on Friday.

但我們現在的重點是在週五。

That's exactly where it should be is the Trojans can win a Pac 12 championship, and that means something.

這正是應該是三巨頭能贏得Pac 12冠軍的地方，這意味著什麼。

But for the purpose of our discussion, we talk playoff here.

但為了我們討論的目的，我們在這裡討論季後賽。

Now USC has the same record as Ohio State, but in my judgment they're not close to the same teams.

現在南加州大學的戰績和俄亥俄州立大學一樣，但在我的判斷中，他們並不接近同一支球隊。

SCS had to pull a couple games out of the fire.

SCS不得不從火中拔出幾場比賽。

One of them against the very poor opponent, the other two against very average opponents.

其中一個對陣很差的對手，另外兩個對陣很一般的對手。

Um, you look at this now and big brands do get the benefit of the doubt, Kirk.

嗯，你看現在這個情況，大品牌確實得到了利益的懷疑，柯克。

And if USC had been dominant, I think they might have gotten some of the benefit of the doubt that Ohio State has gotten, but they haven't looked the same.

而如果南加州大學一直佔據優勢，我認為他們可能會得到一些俄亥俄州立大學所得到的好處，但他們看起來並不一樣。

You look at the two teams play in Ohio State, has controlled its games in a far greater manner, uh, than the Trojans have.

你看看兩隊在俄亥俄州立大學的比賽，已經控制了它的比賽在一個更大的方式，呃，比三駕馬車有。

Yeah, you know, people bring up, I test, and you can use I test or you can actually use metrics.

是的，你知道，人們提出，我測試，你可以用我測試，也可以實際使用指標。

And you look at the efficiency favorite Ohio State considerably is what you just said.

而你看效率最愛的俄亥俄州立大學相當是你剛才說的。

Game Control favors Ohio State considerably.

遊戲控制權大大有利於俄亥俄州立大學。

The strength of schedule is in favor of USC.

賽程實力對南加州大學有利。

Neither one is great, but the difference is the way Ohio State has played.

兩人都不是很好，但不同的是俄亥俄州立大學的比賽方式。

You know, Ohio State, they've had huge leads on some teams and allowed teams to come back, and they still are up very high as far as game control.

你知道的，俄亥俄州立大學，他們在一些球隊中取得了巨大的領先優勢，並讓球隊回來，就比賽控制而言，他們仍然是非常高的。

So I think that's the biggest difference that enjoy the the team that was coming in.

所以我覺得這是享受來的團隊最大的不同。

You know how you know you're not supposed to look at teams before the season starts, but with the team that Ohio State had last year, there's a lot of those players coming back.

你知道你不應該在賽季開始前看球隊，但俄亥俄州立大學去年的球隊，有很多球員回來了。

I think Ohio State had AH lot of momentum coming into this year, and I don't think they've done necessarily anything to diminish that based on the games that they played in.

我認為俄亥俄州立大學在今年有很大的勢頭，我不認為他們做了什麼一定要減少，基於他們所打的比賽。

No, and it's always interesting to me.

不，它總是讓我感到有趣。

And we've always had discussions about, you know, at times you don't control your schedule, and especially in this season, you had zero control over your schedule.

而且我們一直在討論，你知道，有時候你無法控制你的日程，尤其是在這個賽季，你對你的日程安排是零控制的。

So if you're gonna play a Naresuan, a state team that has now sent it wanted to, you can't have tipped passes at the end to find a way to beat them by one point.

所以，如果你要打一個納雷桑，一個現在已經送來想要的國家隊，你不能在最後的時候有翻盤的傳球，要想辦法以一分的優勢擊敗他們。

That was the moment when all of a sudden was like, Oh, USC might not be as good as we thought.

那一刻，所有的人突然覺得，哦，南加州大學可能沒有我們想象的那麼好。

And then they play Arizona the next week, who is now Senate 05 It was a four point victory again, very close at the end, and then this last this past weekend.

然後他們下週對陣亞利桑那州，現在是參議院05這是一個四分的勝利，最後非常接近，然後這個最後的上週末。

The win, the game at the end against a now average u C l A team.

勝利，比賽最後對陣一支現在一般的u C l A球隊。

It just opens your eyes to say, Look, you're undefeated, but you haven't made the statements that we needed to see to get you into this conversation.

這只是讓你睜開眼睛說，你看，你是不敗的，但你還沒有做出我們需要看到的聲明，讓你進入這個對話。

Ohio State has made those statements besides the very close game to Indiana, which was a top 10 team at the time.

俄亥俄州立大學除了對印第安納州的比賽非常接近外，還發表了這些聲明，當時的印第安納州是前10名的球隊。

So the difference is when you watch these twos team play.

所以，當你看這些雙胞胎球隊的比賽時，不同的是。

It's not just the five and a record at the end.

不僅僅是最後的五個和一個記錄。

It's how you arrived at five and know that has hurt U.

你是怎麼到達五的，知道這已經傷害了U。

S.

S.

C.

C.

No doubt who you played.

毫無疑問，你扮演的是誰。

Who you've beaten is obviously a big stipulation with the committee.

你打過誰，顯然是委員會的一大規定。

I think USCs five and oh, and they're five opponents have a combined seven wins.

我想南加州大學的五支球隊，哦，他們的五個對手一共贏了七場。

Um, if you watch the U.

嗯，如果你看U。

C.

C.

L A game last week, I think if you watch that they play that game again, you might favorite u C L A.

上週L A的比賽，我想如果你看他們再打那場比賽，你可能會喜歡u C L A。

So I don't think it's a I think, the bias.

所以我不認為這是一個我認為，偏見。

I think it's fair.

我認為這是公平的。

I think USC USC on defense.

我認為USC南加州大學的防守。

You question them on defense.

你質疑他們的防守。

On offense, you've had moments where you questioned him as well, so I think there are really good football team.

在進攻上，你也有質疑他的時候，所以我認為有真正的好足球隊。

I would love to have seen them play Mawr games against competitive folks, but they played a less than desirable schedule and they haven't looked great.

我很想看到他們對陣有競爭力的人的毛爾比賽，但他們打了一個不太理想的時間表，他們看起來並不出色。

So that's not something that you're gonna say.

所以，這不是你要說的東西。

Oh, man, we need to be fighting for them to put them in the top five, Put them in the top six.

哦，夥計，我們需要為他們爭取，讓他們進入前五，讓他們進入前六。

It's not at that point.

不是在那個時候。

Jesse.

傑西

Yeah, David, I think it's just a simple is.

是的，大衛，我想這只是一個簡單的問題。

Ohio State's a better team and they're playing in a better conference, and you guys have alluded to the game controlling how dominant they've been.

俄亥俄州立大學是一支更好的球隊，他們在一個更好的聯賽中打球，而你們已經暗示了這場比賽控制了他們的統治力。

Consider that Ohio State probably played their C minus game against Indiana team.

考慮到俄亥俄州立大學可能在對陣印第安納隊時打出了他們的C減賽。

The committee has ranked, I think, 11 right now.

委員會的排名，我想，現在是11名。

And they were winning that game 35 to 7 before things started getting weird.

在事情開始變得詭異之前，他們以35比7贏得了那場比賽。

And you guys have talked about how USC has had to come back and three of their games.

而你們也談到了南加州大學是如何不得不回來的，他們的三場比賽。

It's not just us saying this, by the way, the committee in their very first college football playoff ranking had Ohio State at four and they had us see at number 18 Now, I said at the beginning of the show, it doesn't help us see when you're not playing anybody that's ranked and that's on the Pac 12.

不僅僅是我們這麼說，順便說一句，委員會在第一次大學橄欖球季後賽排名中，俄亥俄州立大學是第四名，而他們讓我們看到的是第18名。 現在，我在節目一開始就說了，當你不和任何排名的人打比賽時，這對我們來說沒有任何幫助，而且是在太平洋12區。

I also think from a committee standpoint, you're not supposed to evaluate what's happened in the past, but I do think in some people's subconscious they remember seeing USC give up 49 points against Iowa in the Holiday Bowl just this past season, a Big 10 team.

我也認為從委員會的角度來看，你不應該評估過去發生的事情，但我確實認為在一些人的潛意識中，他們記得在剛剛過去的這個賽季，他們看到南加州大學在假日碗中對愛荷華州的49分，這是一支Big 10球隊。

So I think all of that plays into why Ohio State has ranked so much higher than USC at this point.

所以我覺得這些都是俄亥俄州立大學目前排名比南加州大學高這麼多的原因。

Hey, look, I think USC is dangerous on offense.

嘿，聽著，我覺得南加州大學的進攻很危險。

I would have loved to have seen him have that opportunity originally had scheduled against Alabama in the season opener.

我很想看到他有這樣的機會，原本計劃在賽季揭幕戰中對陣阿拉巴馬。

And you know, people say, Well, why aren't you giving them credit for the victories?

你知道，人們會說，那你為什麼不把勝利的功勞歸於他們？

In my estimation, we are because we're having this discussion, right?

據我估計，我們是因為我們在討論這個問題，對吧？

We're having the discussion as to why their record is not giving them the same place, Uh, that that Ohio State has attained, and the reason is is because they won the game.

我們正在討論為什麼他們的記錄沒有給他們同樣的位置，呃，俄亥俄州立大學已經達到了，原因是他們贏得了比賽。

So they're getting credit for it, and they deserve it.

所以他們的功勞，是他們應得的。

It's not easy to win and us he's been able to do that without blemish so far and have a chance to win a conference championship.

贏球不容易，而我們他能做到目前沒有瑕疵，有機會贏得聯賽冠軍。

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