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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HELLO, LADIES AND

    *********** 斯蒂芬你好,女士們,

  • GENTLEMEN.

    先生們:

  • WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."

    歡迎回到 "深夜秀"。

  • JOINING ME TONIGHT ARE THE DELIGHTFUL HOSTS OF MY FAVORITE

    今晚和我一起參加的是我最喜歡的節目的精彩主播。

  • PODCAST THAT ISN'T ABOUT "THE LORD OF THE RINGS," "THE SLATE

    不是關於《指環王》《石板》的PODC節目

  • POLITICAL GABFEST."

    政客節。"

  • PLEASE WELCOME, EMILY BAZELON, JOHN DICKERSON, AND DAVID PLOTZ!

    請歡迎,埃米莉-巴澤隆,約翰-迪克遜,和大衛-普洛茨!

  • HELLO, YOU THREE.

    你好,你們三個。

  • >> HEY, STEPHEN.

    >> 嘿,Stephen。

  • >> Stephen: IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOU.

    >> Stephen:很高興見到你。

  • I NORMALLY JUST HEAR YOU ON THURSDAYS OR FRIDAYS.

    我通常只在週四或週五聽到你的聲音。

  • FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DO NOT YET KNOW ABOUT THE "SLATE

    對於那些還不知道 "石板 "的人來說。

  • POLITICAL GABFEST."

    政客節。"

  • IT WAS MY GATEWAY DRUG FOR PODCASTS.

    它是我的門路藥物的PODCASTS。

  • IT WAS THE FIRST PODCAST I LISTENED TO SO ALL MY PODCAST

    這是我聽的第一個PODC廣播,所以我所有的PODC廣播都是如此。

  • ADDICTIONS ARE YOUR FAULT.

    癮是你的錯。

  • WHAT DAYS DO THE NEW ONES COME OUT?

    新產品哪天上市?

  • >> THEY COME OUT THURSDAY EVENINGS.

    >> 他們每週四晚上都會出來。

  • >> Stephen: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE SHOW IS IT FEELS LIKE-- IT

    >> Stephen:我喜歡這個節目的原因是它讓人覺得... ...

  • HAS ALWAYS FELT TO ME FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE INTERESTED IN

    一直以來,我覺得對於我們這些有興趣的人來說。

  • POLITICS, IS YOU'RE THE FOURTH PERSON AT A LITTLE FOUR-TOP

    政治,你是第四個在小四合院的人嗎?

  • LUNCH TABLE ON A FRIDAY AND YOU GUYS ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT

    週五的午餐桌,你們只是在談論什麼。

  • JUST HAPPENED AND WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN WASHINGTON, OR WHAT

    華盛頓剛剛發生的事情和即將發生的事情,或者說

  • THE MAJOR ISSUES ARE.

    主要的問題是:

  • HOW DID IT START?

    它是如何開始的?

  • WHAT'S THE ORIGIN STORY OF THIS LITTLE-- THIS LITTLE POLITICAL

    這個小... 這個小政治事件的起源是什麼?

  • AVENGERS?

    AVENGERS?

  • >> THE FIRST PRODUCER OF THE "GAB FEST" ANDY BOWERS SAID HE

    >> "GAB FEST "的第一製作人 ANDY BOWERS說他

  • WANTED A SHOW THAT WOULD BE LIKE HANGING OUT AT THE BAR WITH THE

    想要一個像在酒吧裡和那些人一起玩的節目。

  • PANELISTS ON TV AFTER THE SHOW.

    節目結束後,電視上的小組成員:

  • SO FORGET THE BORING PART.

    所以忘掉無聊的部分。

  • FORGET THE STUFF YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY.

    忘了你該說的那些話。

  • HE WANTED JUST LIKE WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT, WHAT

    他想要的只是像人們實際談論的東西,什麼。

  • JOURNALISTS TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE HANGING OUT.

    記者們談論他們在外面閒逛的時候,

  • THAT WAS THE CONCEPTION.

    這就是概念。

  • SO LUCKILY FOR US, NOBODY LISTENED TO THE SHOW FOR THE

    所以,我們很幸運,沒有人聽過的節目的

  • FIRST YEAR OR SO, SO WE DID FEEL LIKE WE WERE JUST HANGING OUT

    第一年左右,所以我們覺得我們只是在外面閒逛。

  • BECAUSE NO ONE TOLD US THEY HAD HEARD IT.

    因為沒有人告訴我們他們聽到了。

  • BY THE TIME PEOPLE STARTED LISTENING, WE HAD AN IDEA-- WE

    當人們開始聽的時候,我們有一個想法 -- 我們

  • HAVE A LOT OF TRUST AMONG US ABOUT HOW TO DO THE SHOW.

    我們對如何做節目很有信心。

  • >> WHEN WE DID THE FIRST SHOW WE HAD, "A," NO IDEA.

    >> 當我們做的第一個節目,我們有,"A,"不知道。

  • WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THE MOST

    當你回過頭來聽它的時候,它聽起來就像最流行的音樂。

  • BORING PEOPLE AT THE BAR OR THE PEOPLE THEY DON'T LET INTO THE

    在酒吧裡的無聊的人或他們不允許進入的人。

  • BAR WERE TALKING ABOUT.

    酒吧在說什麼?

  • I MEAN, WE WERE-- WE WERE-- WE HAD A LEARNING CURVE TO GO.

    我的意思是,我們是 - 我們是 - 我們有一個學習曲線去。

  • >> WE'RE STILL THE NERDS AT THE BAR!

    >> 我們還是酒吧裡的書呆子!

  • >> Stephen: SURE, SURE.

    >> Stephen: SURE, SURE.

  • AND THAT'S THE-- THAT'S THE TAG LINE FOR THE 15th

    這就是... ... 這就是第15屆的標籤線。

  • ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION, "NOT AS BORING AS WE USED TO BE.

    週年慶典,"不像以前那麼無聊了。

  • JOHN DICKERSON."

    約翰・迪克遜。"

  • >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SELL THEM.

    >> 我不知道如何銷售它們。

  • >> Stephen: EMILY, AXEIOS REPORTED YESTERDAY THE PRESIDENT

    >> 史蒂芬: 埃米莉,AXEIOS報道說,昨天主席。

  • IS PLANNING MASS PARDONS LIKE CHRISTMAS GIFTS, EVEN TO PEOPLE

    計劃大規模赦免是否像聖誕節禮物一樣,甚至是給人們的禮物?

  • NOT ASKING FOR THEM.

    不要求他們。

  • ARE THERE RULES ON ISSUING PARDONS?

    赦免有什麼規定嗎?

  • OR CAN WE JUST SORT OF LODE THE PARDONS IN THE TANK AND CROP

    還是說我們可以把赦免令放進罐子裡然後扔掉?

  • DUST ALL HIS CRONIES WITH FORGIVENESS?

    把他所有的罪孽都用寬恕的方式解決掉?

  • >> HE CAN GIVE THEM OUT AS HE CHOOSES.

    >> 他可以根據自己的選擇把它們送出去。

  • MAYBE HE CAN'T PARDON HIMSELF, BUT EVEN THAT ISN'T CLEAR.

    也許他不能原諒自己,但即使這樣也不清楚。

  • BUT WHAT I LIKE THE BEST ABOUT THE STORY YOU JUST TOLD, IS ARE

    但我最喜歡你剛才說的故事的是... ...

  • BEING OFFERED PARDONS WHO DON'T WANT PARDONS.

    被提供的赦免誰不想要赦免。

  • THEY'RE LIKE, "I DIDN'T DO A CRIME.

    他們喜歡,"我沒有做一個犯罪,

  • I DON'T WANT THE STIGMA OF YOUR SUGGESTION THEY DID.

    我不想要你的建議的暗示,他們做到了。

  • PLEASE DON'T PARDON ME."

    請不要原諒我。"

  • THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

    這就是我們的位置。

  • >> Stephen: I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND,

    >> 斯蒂芬:我想這就是人們不理解的地方。

  • THERE'S A 100-YEAR-OLD RULING FROM THE SUPREME COURT THAT SAYS

    最高法院有一個100年的裁決,說:

  • ACCEPTING A PARDON IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT.

    接受赦免就是認罪。

  • >> RIGHT.

    >> 右邊。

  • IT SUGGESTS THAT YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG AND THAT THERE

    它暗示著你做錯了什麼,並且有

  • IS SOMETHING TO FORGIVE HERE.

    是什麼東西原諒這裡。

  • AND SO, THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF LIMIT ON PARDONS IN

    所以,應該對赦免有一定的限制。

  • TERMS OF HOW THE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY USES THEM, SOME SENSE

    關於主席如何實際使用這些術語,一些感想

  • THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY WRONGDOING.

    事實上,有錯誤的行為。

  • AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO LOSE

    我認為我們不能失去的東西是非常重要的。

  • THAT NORM BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS BEING LOST.

    那正常,但它似乎是失去了。

  • >> Stephen: DAVID, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OF YOUR

    >> 戴維,我想問你一個關於你的一個問題。

  • PARTICULAR IDIOCENTRICKITIES THAT I NOTICED OVER THE YEARS,

    這些年來,我注意到的特別的獨裁現象:

  • YOU'RE SORT OF FAMOUS AMONG GAPFEST FANS WITH BEING OKAY

    你在GAPFEST的粉絲中也算是有名的,因為你的表現還算不錯。

  • WITH POLITICAL CORRUPTION, THAT A LITTLE CORRUPTION IS OKAY.

    隨著政治腐敗, 這一點腐敗是好的。

  • WHEN TRUMP IS OUT OF OFFICE, DO YOU THINK-- AND THIS IS FOR

    當特朗普下臺後,你認為... ...這是為

  • EVERYBODY, BUT AT FIRST TO DAVID-- SHOULD THERE BE

    每個人,但首先是大衛 -- 是否應該有

  • INVESTIGATIONS?

    調查?

  • BECAUSE DON'T YOU HAVE A SENSE THAT THIS-- THIS ORGANIZATION

    因為你不知道這個... 這個組織...

  • MADE THE HARDING ADMINISTRATION LOOK LIKE CHOIR BOYS?

    讓哈丁政府看起來像合唱團的孩子?

  • AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE THROWN IN JAIL, WE SHOULD KNOW

    不管他們是否被送進監獄,我們都應該知道... ...

  • WHAT HAPPENED?

    發生了什麼事?

  • >> I THINK I WAS FOR POLITICAL CORRUPTION BEFORE DONALD TRUMP

    >> 我想在唐納德-特朗普之前,我是支持政治腐敗的。

  • SHOWED UP.

    出現了。

  • I'M FOR POLITICAL CORRUPTION IN THE SENSE THAT I THINK A LITTLE

    我支持政治腐敗,因為我覺得有點...

  • BIT OF FAVOR-DOING-- POLITICS IS SORT OF ART OF DOING FAVORS FOR

  • EACH OTHER.

    各自。

  • YOU GET A LITTLE SOMETHING FROM ME, AND GET A LITTLE SOMETHING

    你從我這裡得到一點東西,也得到一點東西。

  • FROM YOU.

    從你。

  • SO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CAN BE CORRUPT.

    所以,一點點的,可以是腐敗的。

  • >> Stephen: SO EAR MARKS YOU'RE OKAY WITH?

    >> 耳標你沒意見吧?

  • >> 100% OKAY WITH EAR MARKS.

    >> 100%沒問題,有耳標。

  • WHAT'S SHOCKING-- WE MAY NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH-- HOW MANY PEOPLE

    什麼是令人震驚的 - 我們可能永遠不知道有多少 - 多少人。

  • HAVE DRILLED THINGS, HOW MUCH SOOT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO BE

    有鑽井的東西,有多少煙塵被允許是

  • DUMPED INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, HOW MUCH MERCURY I'M GETTING TO

    扔進空氣中,我得到了多少錢的汞... ...

  • INJECHT BECAUSE SOME TEXAS COMPANY IS ALLOWED TO POUR

    因為某些德州公司被允許傾倒,所以才會出現這種情況。

  • MERCURY.

    MERCURY:

  • AND IT'S-- IT IS HORRIFYING TO IMAGINE WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

    而且... 想象一下他們的所作所為真是太可怕了。

  • THAT SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT-- I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR THE

    也就是說,我不知道... ... 我不知道,對於... ...

  • COUNTRY'S GOOD THAT YEARS OF INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT THE

    國家很好的是,多年的調查,對什麼是 "國家"?

  • TRUMPS HAVE DONE IS GOING TO GET US VERY FAR.

    特朗普斯所做的一切將使我們走得很遠。

  • >> BUT IF WE DON'T INVESTIGATE, IF WE DON'T AT LEAST LOOK UNDER

    >> 但是如果我們不調查,如果我們不至少檢查下

  • THE ROCK, THEN WE LOSE THAT KIND OF DETERRENCE, RIGHT?

    搖滾,那麼我們就會失去那種決斷力,對嗎?

  • THEN THE NEXT PEOPLE COME ALONG, AND THERE'S THIS-- YOU'VE JUST

    然後下一個人就來了,然後就是這個... ...

  • LOWERED THE BAR FOR WHAT THE NEXT SET OF POLITICIANS FEEL

    降低了下一撥政治家的感受標準

  • LIKE THEY CAN DO.

    像他們可以做。

  • >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS-- ONE OF THE REASONS YOU NEED TO FIND

    >> 問題之一是... 你需要找到的原因之一是... ...

  • OUT WHAT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE IN THE OLD DAYS, THE NORMS WOULD B

    發生了什麼事,因為在過去的日子裡,NORMS將B。

  • BE-- WOULD BE POLICED BY PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN PARTY.

    會被你自己的黨派的人所控制。

  • I MEAN, SO THAT YOU COULD AGREE THAT SOMEBODY HAD STEPPED OVER A

    我的意思是,所以你會同意有人踩到了一個人的頭上

  • LINE, AND NOBODY SHOULD DO THAT WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING TO GO

    線,沒有人應該這樣做,而不必去。

  • ALL THE WAY TO HAVING AN INVESTIGATION.

    所有的方式有一個調查。

  • BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN A MOMENT WHEN NORMS CAN BE BROKEN AND NOBODY

    但是,當你在一個時刻,規範可以被打破,沒有人。

  • FROM YOUR TEAM WILL SPEAK UP, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN NAIL DOWN

    你的團隊會說出來的,你唯一能搞定的方法

  • THE INFORMATION AND SAY, "THIS IN FACT WAS A LINE THAT WAS

    的資訊,並說,"這事實上是一個線,是。

  • CROSSED," IS BY TAKING IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO AN

    交叉,"是通過採取一路通過一個。

  • INVESTIGATION.

    調查:

  • >> BUT, JOHN, THEN YOU END UP WITH IMPEACHMENT-- WHICH WAS THE

    >> 但是,約翰,然後你最終與impeachment -- 這是誰的。

  • RIGHT THING TO DO-- BUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE COUNTRY-- I MEAN, A

    正確的做法... ... 但在你有國家的地方... ... 我的意思是,一個。

  • COUNTRY OPERATING HALF OF THEM IN A MASS DELUSION OR WILLFUL

    一半的國家在大規模的迷惑或故意的情況下運作。

  • DELUSION.

    幻覺:

  • >> WELL, BUT THAT'S-- >> YOU MEAN PEOPLE DIDN'T

    >> 好吧,但那是... >> 你的意思是人們沒有。

  • BELIEVE THE INFORMATION.

    相信資訊。

  • >> THEY CHOSE NOT IGNORE-- AND THAT'S SO WORRYING THAT YOU HAVE

    >> 他們選擇不理會--------這讓你很擔心

  • THESE PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE SYSTEMS.

    這些人生活在這兩個完全分離的系統中。

  • YOU UNCOVER THE TRUTH, BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COUNTRY

    你揭開了真相,但如果這個國家發生了什麼事?

  • DOESN'T LISTEN?

    不聽?

  • >> BUT, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASE BEING MADE NOW, THE

    >> 但是,我的意思是,如果你看看現在所做的案子。

  • PRESIDENT'S FRAUDULENT CASE ABOUT THE ELECTION, ONE OF THE

    總統選舉舞弊案,其中之一的 "大選"。

  • WAYS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ARGUE TO SOMEBODY THAT IT IS TRULY

    你可能會向別人爭論它是真正的方法。

  • FRAUDULENT IS THAT THE COURTS HAVE THROWN IT OUT WITH SUCH

    騙人的是,法院以這種方式將其駁回。

  • PREJUDICE.

    PREJUDICE。

  • NOW, THAT MAY NOT CONVINCE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, AND ONE OF

    現在,這可能無法說服千百萬人,而其中之一

  • THE DANGERS OF REPUBLICAN LEADERS JUST ALLOWING THE

    共和黨領導人只允許有一個國家的人参加,這是很危險的。

  • PRESIDENT TO LIE ABOUT THE ELECTION AND SEEMINGLY TO

    主席在選舉問題上撒謊,並似乎要在選舉過程中

  • SUPPORT HIM IS THAT IT ALLOWS THAT IDEA TO SINK IN.

    支持他就是讓這個想法能夠深入人心。

  • BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO REJECT THAT IDEA FROM PEOPLE WHO

    但如果你要拒絕人們的這個想法,那就是

  • BELIEVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TRUE, YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE OF

    相信一些不真實的東西,你有證據證明。

  • THE COURTS AND THE JUDGES, SOME OF WHOM WERE APPOINTED BY

    法院和法官,其中一些是由政府任命的。

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO SAY NOT ONLY IS THERE NO CASE HERE, BUT

    特朗普總統,他說不僅這裡沒有案子,而且... ...

  • YOU SHOULDN'T BE ASKING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO DO AT ALL,

    你不應該要求做你要做的事情。

  • EVEN BASED ON THE-- EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ALSO ASKING TO DO IT

    即使是基於... 即使你也在要求去做

  • BASED ON INCREDIBLY FLIMSY EVIDENCE.

    基於極其虛偽的證據。

  • AND THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO ARGUE THIS IS BEYOND THE

    而且,如果你想爭論這一點,那就超出了我們的範圍。

  • BOUND, AT LEAST YOU NOW HAVE A NUMBER OF JUDGES WHO HAVE

    BOUND,至少你現在有了一個數量的法官誰已經。

  • ASSERTED THAT, AND THEY'RE NOT JUST-- THESE AREN'T POLITICAL

    聲稱,他們不只是... ... 這些不是政治性的

  • PUNDITS SAYING THIS.

    專家說,這。

  • THESE ARE ACTUAL JUDGES, WHICH SEEMS TO MAKE A STRONGER CASE,

    這些都是真正的法官,這似乎是一個更有力的證據。

  • THOUGH I RECOGNIZE LOTS OF PEOPLE WON'T BELIEVE THAT CASE.

    雖然我知道很多人不相信這個案子。

  • >> Stephen: WE JUST HAVE TO GET 74 MILLION PEOPLE TO LISTEN

    >> Stephen:我們只需要讓7400萬人口聽我們的話

  • TO THE "SLATE POLITICAL GABFEST" EVERY WEEK, AND THE COUNTRY

    到 "石板政治節 "每星期,和國家。

  • WOULD BE FINE.

    會很好的。

  • WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

    我們必須要快速休息一下。

  • BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL ASK THE HOSTES YES THEY THINK

    但我們回來後,我會問主持人,是的,他們認為。

  • THE G.O.P. IS GOING ALONG WITH THE PRESIDENT'S CLAIMS OF

    政府當局正配合主席的指控

  • ELECTION FRAUD.

    選舉舞弊。

  • STICK AROUND.

    堅持下去。

  • ♪ ♪ ♪

    ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HELLO, LADIES AND

*********** 斯蒂芬你好,女士們,

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