Name: "Slate政治Gabfest "主持。人們被提供赦免 誰不希望赦免。 ("Slate Political Gabfest" Hosts: People Are Being Offered Pardons Who Don't Want Pardons)
Uploaded: 2020-12-19T18:21:36.000Z
Duration: 8 min 5 s

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HELLO, LADIES AND

*********** 斯蒂芬你好，女士們，

JOINING ME TONIGHT ARE THE DELIGHTFUL HOSTS OF MY FAVORITE

今晚和我一起參加的是我最喜歡的節目的精彩主播。

PODCAST THAT ISN'T ABOUT "THE LORD OF THE RINGS," "THE SLATE

不是關於《指環王》《石板》的PODC節目

PLEASE WELCOME, EMILY BAZELON, JOHN DICKERSON, AND DAVID PLOTZ!

請歡迎，埃米莉-巴澤隆，約翰-迪克遜，和大衛-普洛茨！

I NORMALLY JUST HEAR YOU ON THURSDAYS OR FRIDAYS.

我通常只在週四或週五聽到你的聲音。

FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DO NOT YET KNOW ABOUT THE "SLATE

對於那些還不知道 "石板 "的人來說。

IT WAS THE FIRST PODCAST I LISTENED TO SO ALL MY PODCAST

這是我聽的第一個PODC廣播，所以我所有的PODC廣播都是如此。

>> Stephen: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE SHOW IS IT FEELS LIKE-- IT

>> Stephen:我喜歡這個節目的原因是它讓人覺得... ...

HAS ALWAYS FELT TO ME FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE INTERESTED IN

一直以來，我覺得對於我們這些有興趣的人來說。

POLITICS, IS YOU'RE THE FOURTH PERSON AT A LITTLE FOUR-TOP

政治，你是第四個在小四合院的人嗎？

LUNCH TABLE ON A FRIDAY AND YOU GUYS ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT

週五的午餐桌，你們只是在談論什麼。

JUST HAPPENED AND WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN WASHINGTON, OR WHAT

華盛頓剛剛發生的事情和即將發生的事情，或者說

WHAT'S THE ORIGIN STORY OF THIS LITTLE-- THIS LITTLE POLITICAL

這個小... 這個小政治事件的起源是什麼？

>> THE FIRST PRODUCER OF THE "GAB FEST" ANDY BOWERS SAID HE

>> "GAB FEST "的第一製作人 ANDY BOWERS說他

WANTED A SHOW THAT WOULD BE LIKE HANGING OUT AT THE BAR WITH THE

想要一個像在酒吧裡和那些人一起玩的節目。

節目結束後，電視上的小組成員：

FORGET THE STUFF YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY.

HE WANTED JUST LIKE WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT, WHAT

他想要的只是像人們實際談論的東西，什麼。

JOURNALISTS TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE HANGING OUT.

記者們談論他們在外面閒逛的時候，

SO LUCKILY FOR US, NOBODY LISTENED TO THE SHOW FOR THE

所以，我們很幸運，沒有人聽過的節目的

FIRST YEAR OR SO, SO WE DID FEEL LIKE WE WERE JUST HANGING OUT

第一年左右，所以我們覺得我們只是在外面閒逛。

BECAUSE NO ONE TOLD US THEY HAD HEARD IT.

因為沒有人告訴我們他們聽到了。

BY THE TIME PEOPLE STARTED LISTENING, WE HAD AN IDEA-- WE

當人們開始聽的時候，我們有一個想法 -- 我們

HAVE A LOT OF TRUST AMONG US ABOUT HOW TO DO THE SHOW.

>> WHEN WE DID THE FIRST SHOW WE HAD, "A," NO IDEA.

>> 當我們做的第一個節目，我們有，"A，"不知道。

WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THE MOST

當你回過頭來聽它的時候，它聽起來就像最流行的音樂。

BORING PEOPLE AT THE BAR OR THE PEOPLE THEY DON'T LET INTO THE

在酒吧裡的無聊的人或他們不允許進入的人。

I MEAN, WE WERE-- WE WERE-- WE HAD A LEARNING CURVE TO GO.

我的意思是，我們是 - 我們是 - 我們有一個學習曲線去。

AND THAT'S THE-- THAT'S THE TAG LINE FOR THE 15th

這就是... ... 這就是第15屆的標籤線。

ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION, "NOT AS BORING AS WE USED TO BE.

週年慶典，"不像以前那麼無聊了。

>> Stephen: EMILY, AXEIOS REPORTED YESTERDAY THE PRESIDENT

>> 史蒂芬: 埃米莉,AXEIOS報道說,昨天主席。

IS PLANNING MASS PARDONS LIKE CHRISTMAS GIFTS, EVEN TO PEOPLE

計劃大規模赦免是否像聖誕節禮物一樣，甚至是給人們的禮物？

OR CAN WE JUST SORT OF LODE THE PARDONS IN THE TANK AND CROP

還是說我們可以把赦免令放進罐子裡然後扔掉？

把他所有的罪孽都用寬恕的方式解決掉？

>> 他可以根據自己的選擇把它們送出去。

MAYBE HE CAN'T PARDON HIMSELF, BUT EVEN THAT ISN'T CLEAR.

也許他不能原諒自己，但即使這樣也不清楚。

BUT WHAT I LIKE THE BEST ABOUT THE STORY YOU JUST TOLD, IS ARE

但我最喜歡你剛才說的故事的是... ...

BEING OFFERED PARDONS WHO DON'T WANT PARDONS.

他們喜歡，"我沒有做一個犯罪，

I DON'T WANT THE STIGMA OF YOUR SUGGESTION THEY DID.

我不想要你的建議的暗示，他們做到了。

>> Stephen: I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND,

>> 斯蒂芬：我想這就是人們不理解的地方。

THERE'S A 100-YEAR-OLD RULING FROM THE SUPREME COURT THAT SAYS

最高法院有一個100年的裁決，說：

ACCEPTING A PARDON IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT.

IT SUGGESTS THAT YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG AND THAT THERE

它暗示著你做錯了什麼，並且有

AND SO, THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF LIMIT ON PARDONS IN

所以，應該對赦免有一定的限制。

TERMS OF HOW THE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY USES THEM, SOME SENSE

關於主席如何實際使用這些術語，一些感想

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US NOT TO LOSE

我認為我們不能失去的東西是非常重要的。

THAT NORM BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS BEING LOST.

>> Stephen: DAVID, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OF YOUR

>> 戴維，我想問你一個關於你的一個問題。

PARTICULAR IDIOCENTRICKITIES THAT I NOTICED OVER THE YEARS,

這些年來，我注意到的特別的獨裁現象：

YOU'RE SORT OF FAMOUS AMONG GAPFEST FANS WITH BEING OKAY

你在GAPFEST的粉絲中也算是有名的，因為你的表現還算不錯。

WITH POLITICAL CORRUPTION, THAT A LITTLE CORRUPTION IS OKAY.

隨著政治腐敗， 這一點腐敗是好的。

WHEN TRUMP IS OUT OF OFFICE, DO YOU THINK-- AND THIS IS FOR

當特朗普下臺後，你認為... ...這是為

EVERYBODY, BUT AT FIRST TO DAVID-- SHOULD THERE BE

每個人，但首先是大衛 -- 是否應該有

BECAUSE DON'T YOU HAVE A SENSE THAT THIS-- THIS ORGANIZATION

因為你不知道這個... 這個組織...

MADE THE HARDING ADMINISTRATION LOOK LIKE CHOIR BOYS?

讓哈丁政府看起來像合唱團的孩子？

AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE THROWN IN JAIL, WE SHOULD KNOW

不管他們是否被送進監獄，我們都應該知道... ...

>> I THINK I WAS FOR POLITICAL CORRUPTION BEFORE DONALD TRUMP

>> 我想在唐納德-特朗普之前，我是支持政治腐敗的。

I'M FOR POLITICAL CORRUPTION IN THE SENSE THAT I THINK A LITTLE

我支持政治腐敗，因為我覺得有點...

BIT OF FAVOR-DOING-- POLITICS IS SORT OF ART OF DOING FAVORS FOR

YOU GET A LITTLE SOMETHING FROM ME, AND GET A LITTLE SOMETHING

你從我這裡得到一點東西，也得到一點東西。

所以，一點點的，可以是腐敗的。

>> Stephen: SO EAR MARKS YOU'RE OKAY WITH?

WHAT'S SHOCKING-- WE MAY NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH-- HOW MANY PEOPLE

什麼是令人震驚的 - 我們可能永遠不知道有多少 - 多少人。

HAVE DRILLED THINGS, HOW MUCH SOOT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO BE

有鑽井的東西，有多少煙塵被允許是

DUMPED INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, HOW MUCH MERCURY I'M GETTING TO

扔進空氣中，我得到了多少錢的汞... ...

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