What was your reaction when you saw the news last night?

昨晚看到這個新聞，你的反應是什麼？

Well, I wasn't surprised.

好吧，我並不驚訝。

This has been something that's been talked about for a while.

這已經是談了很久的事情了。

It's been rumored to happen, guys.

已經有傳言說會發生，夥計們。

I don't think it's gonna happen this year, I think, much like the Washington football team, the Indians will drop their nickname, but they'll wait a year to decide what the new nickname will be.

我認為今年不會發生，我想，就像華盛頓橄欖球隊一樣，印第安人隊會放棄他們的綽號，但他們會等一年後再決定新的綽號是什麼。

I'm sure there are a lot of opinions here in Cleveland as what it should be.

我相信在克利夫蘭有很多意見，因為它應該是什麼。

There's so much that goes into a name change.

改名的事情太多了。

You got spring training around the corner.

春季訓練馬上就要開始了

You've got business marketing, advertising, merchandise.

你有企業營銷、廣告、商品。

There's so many things that would have to be stopped on a dime.

有那麼多的事情，一不小心就會被制止。

Assembly wise creation wise for this to happen.

集會明智地創造明智地發生。

But the one interesting note about this, fellas and you may not realize this because there's been so much attention in and around the Washington football team, the Atlanta Braves, who have dealt with this forever.

但是關於這一點的一個有趣的說明，夥計們，你們可能沒有意識到這一點，因為在華盛頓橄欖球隊，亞特蘭大勇士隊，他們已經永遠處理了這個問題，有這麼多的關注。

The Chicago Blackhawks, all these sorts of teams with the Cleveland Indians.

芝加哥黑鷹隊，所有這類球隊與克利夫蘭印第安人隊。

There is an aspect of this has been a big story that's been percolating there for a long, long time.

有一個方面，這已經是一個大新聞，在那裡醞釀了很久很久。

When you see protests out in front of the Washington football team, that's something the media covers extensively.

當你看到華盛頓橄欖球隊前的抗議活動時，這是媒體廣泛報道的事情。

You can't get away from it, but this has been something that every opening day in Cleveland, there have been protesters outside of the stadium for a long, long time, and I will tell you from people that have been there and have watched the interaction between Native American groups and some fans.

你無法擺脫它，但這一直是克利夫蘭每個開幕日的事情，體育場外有抗議者，很長很長一段時間，我會告訴你，從去過那裡的人，並觀看了美國本土團體和一些球迷之間的互動。

Some fans are viscerally opposed to this move, and you see it all the time on opening day.

一些球迷對這一舉動表示了強烈的反對，在開賽當天你就能看到。

There's a lot of culture, history, whatever you wanna call it on both sides off this issue.

有很多文化，歷史，不管你想怎麼稱呼它 在這個問題上，雙方都有。

But the Indians, who have not won the World Series since 1948 soon enough apparently will not be known as the Cleveland Indians.

但自1948年以來，很快就沒有贏得過世界大賽的印第安人隊顯然不會再被稱為克利夫蘭印第安人隊。

There's a historical aspect for the word spiders that's very big.

蜘蛛這個詞有一個歷史的方面，是非常大的。

That's a perhaps in early indication of what it might be, but we'll see when the fans weigh in with both the Washington football team and the Cleveland Indians again.

這是一個也許在早期的跡象，但我們會看到，當球迷們再次與華盛頓足球隊和克利夫蘭印第安人隊一起衡量。

Other franchises that have been pressured, like the Blackhawks in the National Hockey League and the Atlanta Braves, particularly in baseball, still unmoved.

其他特許經營權，如國家冰球聯盟的黑鷹隊和亞特蘭大勇士隊，特別是在棒球界，仍然不為所動。

They're going to be status quo.

他們要維持現狀。

Go ahead, Shake.

來吧，搖搖。

Always gonna say is, I think it's really important that you have to include the fans for situations like this.

一直想說的是，我覺得這真的很重要，你必須把粉絲納入這樣的情況。

I've been talking to Jason right about this.

我一直在和傑森談這個問題。

Who is the president of the Washington football team?

華盛頓足球隊的主席是誰？

They're trying to do the same thing.

他們也想做同樣的事情。

I think crowdsourcing is the correct way to go about doing this.

我認為眾包是正確的做法。

So the fans feel like they have a say and what represents their town in their city.

所以，球迷們覺得他們有發言權，在他們的城市裡，什麼代表他們的城市。

No question.

毋庸置疑。

Give them a little bit of ownership, make them feel like they're a part of it.

給他們一點自主權，讓他們覺得自己是其中的一部分。

After all of those fans back in the old days, when fans were coming into games, if those fans weren't coming through those turnstiles or watching on TV, the team would nearly be a successful as it is.

在以前那些球迷進場比賽的時候，如果這些球迷不是通過這些轉盤或者是在電視上看球，球隊差不多就會有現在這樣的成功。

So even though they are just fans, quote unquote just fans.

所以，即使他們只是粉絲，引用不引用只是粉絲。

They have been in some ways, is integral and is an instrumental to the success of the Cleveland Indians or any team you want to talk about.

他們一直在某些方面，是不可或缺的，是克利夫蘭印第安人或任何你想談論的球隊的成功的工具。

So you're right.

所以你是對的。

Them having that say could go a long way.

他們有這樣的發言權可以走很長的路。

But spiders is out there.

但蜘蛛是在外面。

That's an early early indication about what it might be paying homage to an old school iteration off the Indians.

這是一個早期的早期跡象，它可能是致敬一個老學校迭代關閉的印度人。

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