And I basically said what ah wait a minute

而我基本上說什麼啊，等一下

I've accepted everybody's arguments of why we can't do this

我已經接受了大家關於為什麼我們不能這樣做的爭論。

But here's this small start-up company in California

但這裡有一家加州的小型創業公司。

And they think that they can get all of these figures you don't want on this stuff, you know

他們認為，他們可以得到所有這些數字 你不希望在這個東西，你知道嗎？

I've identified will not ever

我已經確定永遠不會

Lead a space Frontier must step down from his role as chairman to settle a government lawsuit

上司太空前線必須從董事長的位置上退下來，以解決政府的訴訟。

It was announced today the SEC sued Musk on Thursday

今天宣佈，美國證券交易委員會（SEC）週四起訴馬斯克。

accusing him of misleading investors

指責他誤導投資者

Stumbling and crashing its way to the bottom of the Nasdaq and charged Elon Musk with fraud. Mr. Musk is gambling with the shareholder

跌跌撞撞地跌到了納斯達克的底部，並指控埃隆-馬斯克欺詐。馬斯克先生在和股東賭博

That's maybe just about the test. It's a cold stock, but the business absolutely

這或許就是考驗。這是一隻冷門股，但生意絕對是。

Is lousy that people are finally starting to figure it out

糟糕的是，人們終於開始弄清楚了。

the SEC filed securities fraud charges against Elon Musk

美國證券交易委員會對埃隆-馬斯克提出證券欺詐指控

April Fool's Day must mix his optimism with dark humor on social media in the midst of

愚人節必須在社交媒體上將他的樂觀情緒與黑色幽默混合在一起，在中。

Widespread concerns Tesla might collapse he tweeted this we are sad to report that Tesla has gone completely

廣泛關注特斯拉可能會倒閉他在推特上這樣寫道：我們很遺憾地報告，特斯拉已經完全消失了

Tesla stock voted by Wall Street as the least likely to succeed

特斯拉股票被華爾街評為最不可能成功的股票。

Tesla CEO Elon Musk is the subject of a new controversy

特斯拉CEO埃隆-馬斯克是新的爭議對象。

But is it about you that

但這是關於你的

Seems to invite

似乎在邀請

Skepticism do people get upset at you if you do certain things

懷疑 如果你做了某些事情，別人會對你不滿嗎？

This stuff isn't from those sci-fi novels and movies and it's so far away

這東西不是那些科幻小說和電影裡的東西，而且離我們很遠了

But every time I hear you speak, it's like well, no this stuff is sitting it's right here. I'm interested in things that

但每次我聽到你說話的時候，就會覺得，好吧，不，這東西就在這裡坐著呢。我感興趣的事情，

That changed the world or that affect the future and wondrous new technology where you see it and you're like wow

改變了世界，或者影響了未來和奇妙的新技術，你看到它，你就會覺得哇。

How'd that even happen how how's that possible? I?

這怎麼可能？ 怎麼可能？I?

Like creating things that have never been seen before or even imagined before we see

比如說創造出一些從未見過的東西，甚至在我們看到之前就已經想象過的東西

The Tesla Roadster this year. Absolutely this year should be coming out in about six seven months

今年的特斯拉跑車。絕對今年應該會在六七個月後推出。

Well, I think it's because we're doing these things that seem unlikely to succeed

我想這是因為我們做的這些事情似乎不太可能成功

He told me that he was waking up in the middle of the night and there would be tears on us in

他告訴我，他是在半夜醒來，我們身上會有眼淚在流

2008 the rocket company is not going. Well. I had three failures the car company is emerging money and

2008年火箭公司不走。好了，我有三個失敗的汽車公司我有三個失敗的汽車公司是新興的資金和。

the American economy has

美國經濟

Tanked in the worst recession since the Great Depression and I'm getting divorced by the way

在大蕭條以來最嚴重的經濟衰退中倒下了，順便說一句，我要離婚了。

That was there was definitely at the worst year of my life

那時候絕對是我人生中最糟糕的一年。

Critics say you can't do this. Your answer to them is we're done it how many people predicted?

批評者說你做不到這一點。你對他們的回答是我們已經完成了，有多少人預測到了？

in 2008

2008年

that SpaceX would have done these things by

SpaceX公司會做這些事情，由

2018 I think

2018年我想

Zero, it's been 17 years to get to this point for 2002 to now. It will amount of hard work and sacrifice

零，2002年到現在已經17年了，才走到這一步。這需要付出很多的努力和犧牲

From a lot of people that it's done at this point

從很多人看來，這時已經完成了。

So a fourth failure, the full failure would have been absolutely game over done done

所以，第四次失敗，全面失敗就絕對是遊戲結束了完成了

SpaceX

SpaceX

bankrupt

破產

Dog

犬

Really you think this would work, um

你真的認為這能行嗎？

Like when I see the rocket liftoff I see like a thousand things that

就像當我看到火箭升空的時候，我看到的是千姿百態的東西。

That not work and it's amazing when they do I'm hopeful that the first people could be taken to Mars in ten to twelve years

我希望在10到12年內，第一批人可以被帶到火星上。

I think it's certainly possible for that to occur. The thing that really matters. The long term is to have a self-sustaining city on Mars

我想這當然有可能發生。真正重要的事情。長期的目標是在火星上建立一個自給自足的城市。

Things have been going a lot wrong for a long time at Tesla when it comes to profitability

在盈利能力方面，特斯拉長期以來都出現了很多問題。

So it's really not about one quarter

所以這真的不是四分之一的問題

it's about whether or not you're gonna make the leap of faith that Tesla is actually going to make a

這關係到你是否會做出信仰的飛躍，特斯拉是否真的會做出一個。

Profitable company it out of the stock now

盈利的公司它現在出的股票

I mean

我的意思是

I think there's nothing but accidents waiting to happen and if we've been fortunate and

我覺得除了等待發生的意外之外，沒有別的，如果我們幸運，並且

These thus far they have succeeded crazy things can come true

到目前為止，這些他們已經成功了 瘋狂的事情可能會成真

You put 90 billion dollars of breaks into into solar and wind. It's a sudden

你把900億美元的休息投入到太陽能和風能中。這是一個突然的

It's Solyndra and Fisker at Tesla and or one

這是Solyndra和Fisker在特斯拉和或一。

I mean, I had a friend who said you don't just pick the winners and losers you pick the losers making a car company

我的意思是，我有一個朋友說，你不只是選擇贏家和輸家，你選擇失敗者使汽車公司

successful is

成功是

Monumentally difficult. It is absurd a Tesla's life absurd

紀念碑式的困難。特斯拉的一生是荒唐的。

Excruciating effort

痛苦的努力

100 hour weeks by everyone by everyone here at Tesla. Yes. Either be a

特斯拉這裡的每個人都要每週工作100小時。是的。要麼是一個

Multi-planet species and out there among the stars or will be a single planet species until some eventual extinction event either natural man-made

多星球物種，在星際間或將是單一星球物種，直到最終的滅絕事件，無論是自然的還是人為的。

They don't make money he hasn't been able to build cars, this is the problem surd at Tesla's life absurd

他們不賺錢，他還不能造車，這就是特斯拉人生荒謬的問題surd。

Uh, he's a self-confessed

呃，他是一個自認的

Manic-depressive he he is known to use recreational drugs. Believe me

躁鬱症的他... ...他是眾所周知的使用娛樂性藥物。相信我吧

There are people who could run an automobile company a lot better than he can. It's like Elon Musk

有些人可以比他更好地經營一家汽車公司。就像Elon Musk

You've been beamed down from another planet

你從另一個星球被傳送下來了。

To show us mortals how to run an out of run a company and a fuse that got people were laughing at you now

讓我們這些凡人知道如何經營一家公司和一個導火線，讓人們現在嘲笑你

Not sleek referrers work superheroes work seven days a week

不圓滑的推薦人工作超級英雄一週工作七天。

It was like part of some of those days must have been like hundred twenty hours to some unity

這就像部分的一些日子必須像一百二十小時到一些統一的地方

The other option would have been Tesla dies Tesla cannot die. Tesla is

另一個選擇就是特斯拉死了特斯拉不能死。特斯拉是

Incredibly important for the future or sustainable transport 11 years today

對未來或可持續交通無比重要 11年後的今天

Tesla had made one car that car

特斯拉曾做過一輛車，車

That's serial. Number one

那是序列號。一號

It's pretty wild to think that 11 years ago today

想到11年前的今天，真是太瘋狂了。

We had made literally one car and a year from now world made a million

我們只做了一輛車，一年後世界上就有一百萬輛了

Well by 2030 electric car sales are expected to surge to 30 million vehicles worldwide

那麼到2030年，電動汽車的銷量預計將激增到全球3000萬輛。

our goal all along has been

我們一直以來的目標是

To try to get the rest of the car industry to its go electric like we're at an inflection point

試圖讓汽車行業的其他部分去電動化，就像我們正處於一個拐點。

the car companies have announced three hundred billion dollars

車企紛紛宣佈投入三千億

That they're investing in making even careful that we'll be able to achieve at least a half million cars a year by 2012 a million

他們在投資，甚至是小心翼翼的，我們將能夠實現至少50萬輛汽車一年，到2012年100萬輛

cars by

汽車

2020 try to make change as opposed to just reading about they made their there third quarter targets

2020年嘗試做出改變，而不是僅僅閱讀他們做出了第三季度的目標。

Every car company in the world. I think every boardroom said, oh my goodness

世界上每一家汽車公司。我想每個董事會都會說，哦，我的天啊。

If you study engineering and you figure out how to design new things

如果你是學工科的，你就會想辦法設計新的東西。

Then it's relatively easy to start a company. You just need to get a few like-minded people

那麼開公司就比較容易了。你只需要找幾個志同道合的人就可以了

with you and and then focus on creating a prototype the compelling prototype as soon as possible and

與您一起，然後集中精力盡快創造出一個引人注目的原型，並且

That that's all there's to it and you might you know, try it a few times

這就是所有有它，你可能會 你知道，嘗試幾次

My bail may not succeed

我的保釋可能不成功

But I think sometimes people fear fear starting a company too much, you know to say really what's worse that could go wrong

但我覺得有時候人們對創辦公司的恐懼恐懼得太厲害了，你知道說真的會出什麼差錯呢？

You know cast off to death, you know, you're not gonna die of exposure

你知道的，你知道的，你不會因為暴露而死的

What's worse they go wrong

更糟糕的是，他們出了問題

I think we should try to take the set of actions that are most likely to make the future good for us middle to the

我覺得我們應該儘量採取一套最可能讓未來對我們有利的行動，中到了

Middle here. I

這裡的中間。I

Mean, you know each month that passes is literally

意思是說，你知道每個月過去的時間都是...

Cost us tens of millions of dollars. I mean we need to appreciate that

花費了我們數千萬美元。我的意思是，我們需要欣賞

It's been one the darkest days on Wall Street and reason that instead of being up in an ivory tower

這是在華爾街最黑暗的一天，而不是在象牙塔裡的理由

I want to be in the middle of a battle. And so that means putting my desk in the middle of the factory, sir

我想置身於戰鬥的中央。所以這意味著要把我的辦公桌放在工廠的中間，先生。

My gosh, why is everyone getting all on his case?

我的天啊，為什麼每個人都對他的案子感興趣？

He wants to get high on a Joe Rogan podcast and you let him let him be the individual that he is

他想在喬-羅根的播客節目上嗨起來，你就讓他讓他做自己吧

He's a force in society that's like like a

他是社會上的一股力量，就像像一個

a

a

Cross-pollination of Thomas Edison and Tony Stark you cross pollinate those two folks you get Ilana

托馬斯-愛迪生和託尼-斯塔克的交叉授粉 你把這兩個人交叉授粉就會得到伊蓮娜

it's like some superhero type Shannon SpaceX be the company that

這就像一些超級英雄型香農SpaceX是公司，

Brings humanity to Mars and I always see it while I'm still alive

把人類帶到了火星，我總是在我還活著的時候看到它。

You're 47. What is the likelihood that you?

你47歲了你的可能性有多大？

Seventy percent

七成

What is your hope in terms of the impact you will leave on culture

您希望在文化方面留下什麼影響？

I think what I'd like to do is help solve some important problems

我想我想做的是幫助解決一些重要的問題。

All the companies we interviewed in Silicon Valley

我們在硅谷採訪的所有公司

Tesla is the only one that survived a decade later all the others went bankrupt

特斯拉是唯一一個活下來的，十年後其他所有的公司都破產了。

You think that you are gonna be the general motors of the future? I?

你以為你會成為未來的通用汽車？I?

Would describe it differently?

會有不同的描述嗎？

I think I think

我想我想

Really the goal of Tesla Motors is to help accelerate the advent of the electric vehicle

真的，特斯拉汽車公司的目標是幫助加速電動汽車的出現。

The whole point of Tesla is to accelerate the the advent of electric vehicles

特斯拉的全部意義在於加速電動汽車的問世

erratic

飄忽不定

unstable reckless

飄忽不定

Operatic. I'm just being me the system would have failed if I if I was truly erratic try to adhere to some

操作性強。我只是在做我自己，如果我真的不穩定的話，系統會失敗的，如果我真的不穩定的話，就會試圖堅持一些。

CEO template that we got lost along the way with our space program. What did you mean by that?

CEO模板，我們在太空計劃的過程中丟失了。你這話是什麼意思？

Well what I mean by that is in 1969

我的意思是，在1969年

We were able to go to the moon and here we are over three decades later and we can barely get to low-earth orbit

我們能夠登上月球，但三十多年後的今天，我們卻只能勉強進入低地軌道。

All right, am I supposed to do something

好吧，我是不是應該做一些事情

And I can hear okay, I think this is this is a fantastic thing but this there's gonna be even better things in the future

我可以聽到好的，我認為這是 這是一個夢幻般的事情 但這有會是更好的東西在未來

and we're super super excited for what's happened and

我們超級超級興奮的發生了什麼事，並。

150 miles above Africa the capsule undocked from the International Space Station

在非洲上空150英里處，太空艙與國際空間站脫開。

This critical test flight paves the way for a dragon mission carrying astronauts. It's been 17 years

這次關鍵性的試飛，為搭載太空人的神龍任務鋪平了道路。已經17年了

There still haven't lost anyone yet

還沒有失去一個人

But hopefully we will later this year

但希望今年晚些時候我們會

So that would definitely be the culmination of a long dream for me and a lot of people at SpaceX for sure

所以，這肯定是我和SpaceX公司很多人長期夢想的結晶。

We should have a base on the moon. I kept that permanently occupied human base on the moon and send people to Mars

我們應該在月球上建立一個基地。我在月球上保留了那個永久佔用的人類基地，並把人送到火星上。

You know, and I said pull the city on Mars. That's where she do. I

你知道，我說過要把城市拉到火星上。這就是她做的。I

Mean I should say that you know when I was a kid, I didn't really have any grand designs

我應該說，你知道當我還是個孩子的時候，我並沒有什麼偉大的設計。

I mean, the the reason I started programming computers is because I like computer games. It was very violent

我的意思是，我之所以開始給電腦編程是因為我喜歡電腦遊戲。它是非常暴力的

It was not a happy childhood. It has almost been to death if you'd call that Boyd

這不是一個快樂的童年。它幾乎已經死了，如果你把它稱為博伊德。

I learned that if I wrote software and sold it then I could get more money and buy better computers

我瞭解到，如果我寫了軟件，然後把它賣掉，那麼我就可以得到更多的錢，買到更好的電腦。

He was interested in computers early at the age of 12

他在12歲時就對電腦產生了濃厚的興趣

He wrote the software for a video game and sold it against his parents wishes

他寫了一個電子遊戲的軟件，並違背父母的意願賣掉了它

He set his sights on the software capital of the world. I really want to work on new technology

他把目光投向了世界軟件之都。我真的很想從事新技術的研究

so I when it get to Silicon Valley I moved first to

所以當我到硅谷的時候，我先搬到了硅谷

Canada by myself when at 17 and then a few years later

17歲的時候，我一個人去了加拿大，幾年後

I moved to the US writing software during the summer of 95 trying to make useful things happen on the internet

我在95年夏天搬到美國寫軟件，想在互聯網上發生有用的事情。

I wrote something that allowed you to get maps and directions on the internet and then something that allowed you to do online

我寫了一些東西，讓你得到地圖和方向 在互聯網上，然後的東西，讓你做在線。

manipulation of content

內容操縱

Things were pretty tough in the early going. I didn't have any money. In fact, I had negative money

早期的情況相當艱難。我沒有任何錢。事實上，我有負錢

I'd hear student debts Oh, in fact, I couldn't afford a place to stay and an office

我會聽到學生的債務哦，事實上，我買不起住的地方和辦公室。

so I rented an office instead because that was I was actually I got a a cheaper office that I could get a

所以，我租了一個辦公室，而不是因為那是我實際上是我得到了一個便宜的辦公室，我可以得到一個。

Get a place to stay and then we I just wanna sleep on the futon and shower at the YMCA on Paige Mullin

找個地方住下來，然後我們我只想睡在蒲團上，在佩奇-穆林的基督教青年會洗澡。

Musk sold his first computer program at the age of 12 and he hasn't stopped selling since 95

馬斯克在12歲的時候就賣出了他的第一個電腦程序，從95年開始他就沒有停止過銷售工作

They weren't very many people on the Internet and certainly nobody was making any money at all

他們在互聯網上的人並不多，當然也沒有人賺到錢。

Most people thought the internet was gonna be a fad

大多數人都認為互聯網會是一種時尚。

There basically only about six of us there were myself my brother who directed us to come down from Canada and

基本上我們只有六個人，我和我的哥哥，他訓示我們從加拿大下來，然後... ...

Friend of my mom. This is an ATM. What we're gonna do is transform the traditional banking industry

我媽媽的朋友。這是一臺ATM機。我們要做的是改變傳統的銀行業。

He started an online banking firm that he grew into PayPal a system for making

他創辦了一家網上銀行公司，並將其發展成PayPal，這是一個用於製造和銷售的系統。

Purchases on the internet and you sold PayPal to eBay for pi was about why don't half billion dollars

在互聯網上購買，你把PayPal賣給eBay，以pi的價格是關於為什麼不5億美元的

So we actually lived in the office and we would sleep it

所以，我們實際上是住在辦公室裡，我們會睡它

on the floor in the evening and go shower at the YMCA the next morning and then we would be ready to go before the

晚上在地板上，第二天早上去基督教青年會洗澡，然後我們就會準備好去之前的

Before some of our employees would arrive so they wouldn't think we were actually sleeping any other

在我們的一些員工到達之前，他們不會認為我們實際上是睡覺的任何其他。

Effort PayPal had said I want to get back into

努力PayPal曾說過，我想重回。

electric vehicles and

電動汽車和

Make something happen in that arena. It wasn't as though in creating these companies that so we thought that we would be successful

在這個領域有所作為。並不是說在創建這些公司的時候，所以我們認為我們會成功的

I thought that the most likely outcome was failure

我以為最可能的結果是失敗

but

不過

But it was still worth doing. Well. I didn't really think Tesla would be successful

但還是值得做的。嘛。我真的不認為特斯拉會成功。

I thought we would most likely fail but I thought that we at least could address the false

我想我們很可能會失敗，但我想我們至少可以解決虛假的。

perception that people had that an electric car had to be ugly and slow and and

人們認為電動車必須是醜陋的、緩慢的、和。

Boring like a golf cart. So you didn't expect the company to be successful. Then why try if something's important enough

無聊的像個高爾夫球車。所以你並不指望公司能成功。那為什麼要嘗試，如果事情足夠重要

you should try even if you

你也要試試

Probable outcome is failure

可能的結果是失敗

Elon Musk was just very honest and I really think back then

埃隆-馬斯克就是很老實，我真的覺得當年

He may have thought the idea would survive but his company would not how much more has the project cost

他可能認為這個想法會存活下來，但他的公司不會存活下來，這個項目又花了多少錢？

Then you thought it was going to cost probably played twice as much

那你以為要花的錢可能是打了兩倍的錢

I think ish there about how much did you put into this company? Don't tell me you don't know

我想是有關於你在這個公司投入了多少錢？別告訴我你不知道。

No, I did. It's about fifty five million dollars

不，我有。大概有五千萬

fifty five million dollars of your own money

自掏腰包五十五萬

It's very difficult to

這是很困難的

Start companies and quite painful and that's important to bear in mind. I don't know if it's that's probably not encouraging

開公司，相當痛苦，這一點很重要，要牢記。我不知道這是否是，這可能不是鼓勵

Leave this way. If you need inspiring words, don't do it. You had that third failure in a row

這樣離開。如果你需要鼓舞人心的話，就不要做了。你已經連續第三次失敗了

Did you think I need to pack this in Devin?

你覺得我需要把這個裝在德文的包裡嗎？

Why not? I don't ever give up

為什麼不呢？我從來沒有放棄過

I mean I'd have to be

我的意思是，我必須是

dead or completely incapacitated

殘缺不全

My grandfather moved with whittle woola's kids and my mom never went to South Africa

我爺爺和白烏拉的孩子們一起搬走了 我媽媽從來沒有去過南非

Because he wanted to use it as a base of exploration

因為他想把它作為一個探索的基地

So you had this little plane that he liked to fly all over the place

所以你有一架小飛機，他喜歡飛來飛去

And he he cleared all through Africa and Asia and he was the first person to fly from South Africa to Australia