As we all know, season less than three weeks away from now, What responsibility does LeBron James and other players have in terms of keeping up with the fight of social justice during the upcoming season?

我們都知道，現在距離賽季還有不到三週的時間，在即將到來的賽季中，勒布朗-詹姆斯和其他球員在保持與社會正義的鬥爭方面有什麼責任呢？

Well, they've taken onto themselves, and thank you so much for having me.

好了，他們已經採取了自己， 並感謝你這麼多的邀請我。

I'm so honored to be here.

我很榮幸能在這裡。

I think they've taken up themselves the mantle of leadership.

我認為他們已經自覺地承擔起了上司的重任。

We don't have toe advise them.

我們沒必要給他們建議。

We don't have to counsel them.

我們不需要輔導他們。

They already know what's at stake.

他們已經知道這其中的利害關係。

Uh, no athlete, arguably, since Mohammed Ali at the height of his fame has leveraged his athletic ability in defense of social justice issues.

呃，沒有一個運動員，可以說，自從穆罕默德-阿里在他的名氣的高度已經利用他的運動能力在捍衛社會正義的問題。

And I think with the congregation of stars that are around the MBA right now, as they begin, uh, to ramp up for this new season of 72 games, there's no question that LeBron James will continue to carry the responsibility along with those other conscientious stars, not only by wearing stuff on the back of their jerseys and representing what's on the front of those jerseys, but representing the broader interests of their communities.

而我認為，隨著現在MBA周圍明星的聚集，當他們開始，呃，為新賽季的72場比賽做準備時，毫無疑問，勒布朗-詹姆斯將繼續和其他那些有良知的明星一起肩負起責任，不僅僅是通過在球衣後面穿東西，代表球衣前面的內容，而是代表他們社區更廣泛的利益。

And we know athletics from the very beginning of African American participation has always been connected to n tethered with ah sense of social responsibility, whether it was Joe Louis and the ring with his fisticuffs or Jackie Robinson on the on the Diamond.

而我們知道田徑運動從一開始的非裔美國人的參與就一直是和n拴著啊社會責任感聯繫在一起的，不管是喬-路易斯和他的拳腳擂臺還是傑基-羅賓遜在鑽石球場上。

Or, you know Bill Russell on the parquet floor in Boston, these athletes are Wilma Rudolph Or or you know, Alfie A.

或者，你知道比爾-拉塞爾在波士頓的鑲木地板上，這些運動員是威爾瑪-魯道夫或者或者你知道，阿爾菲-A。

Gibson and tennis.

吉布森和網球。

These women and men have understood that their athletic ability is subordinate to a broader concern about their race in the society and LeBron James and those fellows in the n b.

這些女人和男人已經明白，他們的運動能力從屬於社會對他們種族的更廣泛的關注，勒布朗-詹姆斯和那些在n b的研究員。

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And by the way, the W N Ba are doing an extraordinary job.

順便說一句，W N巴的工作做得很出色。

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Michael Eric Dyson always an honor and privilege to have you on the show, My brother.

邁克爾-埃裡克-戴森 很榮幸能請到你上節目，我的兄弟

And by the way, it ain't just the New York Times bestseller.

順便說一句，它不只是紐約時報的暢銷書。

You're a seven time New York Times bestseller.

你是《紐約時報》的七次暢銷書。

Let me make sure I throw that out there.

讓我確保我把它扔出去。

But I ask you this question when you, uh, obviously the George Floyd, obviously the George Floyd killing was an inspiration.

但我問你這個問題，當你，呃，很明顯喬治-弗洛伊德，很明顯喬治-弗洛伊德的謀殺是一個靈感。

But just as an historian, uh, that's what an an activist that you are not just a professor seeing what you saw from the N B.

但作為一個歷史學家，呃，這就是一個活動家，你不只是一個教授，看到你從N B看到的東西。

A players.

A球員。

I wanted to know whether or not it caught you by surprise.

我想知道是否讓你感到意外。

Or did you anticipate that this was a powder keg ready to burst at any given moment?

還是說你已經預料到這是一個隨時會爆炸的火藥桶？

And this ultimately was inevitable.

而這最終是不可避免的。

What?

什麼？

You what?

你什麼？

You transpired over the last few months.

你在過去的幾個月裡發生了。

You know, given how brilliantly frame that I want to say yes to both of those issues.

你知道嗎，鑑於這兩個問題的框架是多麼的精彩，我想對這兩個問題說是。

Right?

對吧？

On the one hand, it was certainly a powder keg waiting to happen, because after all, these are men and women who are involved and invested in their communities.

一方面，這無疑是一個等待發生的火藥桶，因為畢竟這些人都是參與和投入社區的男女。

And so what happens outside of that arena affects them.

所以在這個舞臺之外發生的事情也會影響到他們。

Inside the arena, they have emotions.

競技場內，他們有情緒。

They have heart.

他們有心。

They have intelligence.

他們有智慧。

They have empathy.

他們有同理心。

They understand the context of their own suffering.

他們明白自己的痛苦背景。

LeBron James had thean words scrawled on his house in Los Angeles even before he became a Laker.

勒布朗-詹姆斯在成為湖人球員之前，就在洛杉磯的房子上塗抹了這句話。

So he understood existentially what politically and conceptually was going on.

所以，他從政治上和觀念上都明白存在著什麼。

But on the other hand, I think Stephen A, you've raised a very powerful point.

但另一方面，我認為Stephen A，你提出了一個非常有力的觀點。

We couldn't have anticipated that they would have a work stoppage on that day.

我們無法預料到，當天他們會停工。

We couldn't have anticipated that at that very moment it was going to explode in such a way that they made a statement about the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and they would no longer stand for that.

我們無法預料到，就在那一刻，它會以這樣的方式爆發，他們對威斯康星州基諾沙市雅各布-布萊克的槍擊事件發表了聲明，他們不會再忍受這種情況。

Not even sports, which relieves the suffering and burden of people.

甚至連體育也不行，這就減輕了人們的痛苦和負擔。

We turned the sports because our lives are either great or not so great.

我們轉了體育，因為我們的生活要麼很好，要麼不那麼好。

We wanna be distracted, We wanna be uplifted.

我們想分心，我們想振奮。

We wanna be edified and we will look at those players on the the arena floor.

我們要接受教化，我們要看看競技場上的那些選手。

We are for a moment for 2.5 hours, taken away and distracted from whatever we got going on.

我們有2.5個小時的時間，被帶走了，並從任何我們得到的事情上分心。

But they said in this moment, we know that's our responsibility.

但他們說在這一刻，我們知道這是我們的責任。

But our greater responsibility is to respond to social issues that affect all of our people and to use our platform in an intelligent fashion toe amplify an echo.

但我們更大的責任是對影響所有人的社會問題做出迴應，並以智慧的方式利用我們的平臺來放大回聲。

Those great ideals, Professor, Let me, uh, add to the chorus of voices, um, and say that you elevate and and make better every tv and radio show you're on, and we're thrilled to have you.

這些偉大的理想，教授，讓我，呃，添加的聲音的合唱，嗯，並說，你提升，並使更好的每一個電視和廣播節目，你在，我們很高興有你。

And I'm thrilled to have you on the show today.

我很高興你能來參加今天的節目。

Let me ask you this because you're also a little bit of a hot take sports sky.

讓我問你這個問題，是因為你也有點熱衷於拿體育天空。

I've had lots of sports conversations with you and we've debated sports way.

我和你有過很多的體育對話，我們也辯論過體育方式。

Tease this segment by saying how LeBron social activism, according to Professor Dyson, doesn't elevate him above.

逗比這段說勒布朗的社會活動，按照戴森教授的說法，並沒有提升他的地位。

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You know, I talk about boxing a lot and and Sugar Ray Robinson's the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time.

你知道，我經常談論拳擊... ...糖雷-羅賓遜是有史以來最偉大的拳擊手。

But if you say in a larger sense, who's the greatest fighter ever?

但如果從更大的意義上說，誰是最偉大的拳手？

It's Mohammed Ali, because he was globally more significant as a result of his political and social activism.

是穆罕默德-阿里，因為他的政治和社會活動在全球範圍內更加重要。

Does LeBron's activism I mean that he eclipse eclipse his Michael Jordan or Kareem?

勒布朗的積極性我的意思是說，他黯然失色他的邁克爾-喬丹或卡里姆？

Even who is also socially active?

連誰也在社會上混？

In a larger sense, Yeah, that's a great question.

在更大的意義上，是的，這是一個偉大的問題。

I mean, you know my my troika of my triumvirate, my trilogy.

我的意思是，你知道我的三駕馬車 我的三部曲，我的三部曲。

My three would be Kobe, LeBron and Jordan for different reasons.

我的三個人會是科比、勒布朗和喬丹，原因不同。

Jordan.

約旦：

For the unprecedented, unparalleled and perhaps undue click able feet of at the height of gym shoe uh, mania in America that he helped spark at the height of the globalization of the game.

對於史無前例的，無與倫比的，也許是不適當的點擊能腳的在健身房鞋呃，狂熱的美國，他幫助引發的遊戲全球化的高度。

He and David Stern taking it global of the ability to use his, uh, magic on the court to really conquer the world can never be duplicated because it came at a particular time, Uh, in a post civil rights generation where this figure, ah, dark skinned black man bore on his shoulders The burden of representing a sport that had 50 years ago been quite complicated when it came to black folks.

他和大衛-斯特恩在全球範圍內使用他的魔力在球場上真正征服世界的能力永遠不會被複制，因為它是在一個特殊的時間，嗯，在後民權的一代，這個數字，啊，深色皮膚的黑人承擔在他的肩膀上代表運動的負擔，50年前已經相當複雜，當它來到黑人。

Uh, Kobe Bryant, the pure skill, the pure talent, the footwork, the majesty on court taking difficult shots, making them over taller opponents than even a Michael Jordan.

呃，科比-布萊恩特，純熟的技術，純熟的天賦，純熟的腳步，在球場上拿下高難度投籃的威嚴，讓他們戰勝高大的對手，甚至比邁克爾-喬丹還高大。

But then, when you come to LeBron James when he's ah, hybrid of a magic and a Michael and yet producing a Torshin quit is they say a third thing, something we've never seen before.

但是，當你來到勒布朗-詹姆斯的時候，他是啊，一個魔術和一個邁克爾的混合體，卻產生了託申退出是他們說的第三件事，我們從來沒有見過。

And when you look at the freakish nature of his athleticism, joined two at the height of his fame and his global acclaim, being willing to take a stand in defense of social justice issues and people whose backs are against the wall, he's incomparable and in the class by himself.

而當你看到他運動能力的畸形，在他名氣最大的時候加入了兩個人，在全球範圍內獲得了廣泛的讚譽，願意站在維護社會正義問題和背靠牆的人的立場上，他是無可比擬的，也是同級別的。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。