My guest tonight is a Formula One driver who just became a seven time world champion, tying the record held by Michael Schumacher.

我今晚的嘉賓是一位F1車手 My guest tonight is a Formula One driver 他剛剛成為七次世界冠軍 who just became a seven time world champion, 追平了邁克爾-舒馬赫保持的紀錄 tying the record held by Michael Schumacher.

Now he finds himself alongside Michael Schumacher as top in the record books.

現在，他發現自己與邁克爾-舒馬赫並列成為記錄簿上的第一名。

The world championship record is he called Lewis Hamilton wins the Turkish Grand Prix.

世界冠軍紀錄是他叫劉易斯-漢密爾頓贏得土耳其大獎賽。

Hey, is that much?

嘿，有這麼多嗎？

God!

天啊！

Hey, shit!

嘿，該死！

That for all the kids out there who dream the impossible, You could do it too, Man, I believe in two guys.

對於那些夢想著不可能的事情的孩子們來說，你也可以做到，夥計，我相信兩個人。

Thank you so much, everyone.

非常感謝大家。

For your support, please welcome to a late show.

對於您的支持，歡迎來晚秀。

Lewis, Hamilton, Lewis.

劉易斯，漢密爾頓，劉易斯。

Thanks for being here.

謝謝你來這裡。

Thank you so much for having me.

非常感謝你邀請我。

I'm so excited to be here.

我很高興能來到這裡。

Well, I don't know a lot about Formula One, but I am all swept up in your emotions there at the end of this race.

我對F1瞭解不多 Well, I don't know a lot about Formula One, 但我被你在比賽結束時的情緒所感染 but I am all swept up in your emotions there at the end of this race.

Tell me what's what's going through your head at that moment that we saw on tape just now?

告訴我，剛才我們在錄像帶上看到的那一刻，你腦子裡在想什麼？

Well, Stephen, I've been racing for 27 years.

好吧，斯蒂芬，我已經賽車27年了。

I started when I was eight years old.

我八歲的時候就開始了。

The dream was to get to Formula One, and I grew up watching Michael Schumacher when although those races and those titles and I'm finally there the last three laps.

我的夢想是進入一級方程式賽車，我從小看著邁克爾-舒馬赫長大，當雖然那些比賽和那些冠軍，我終於在那裡最後三圈。

I knew that I was coming into the weekend and if I had won the race, I would I would be world champion and you know that.

我知道我進入週末後，如果我贏了比賽，我會... ...我會成為世界冠軍，你知道的。

But there's so many things that could go wrong.

但有很多事情可能會出錯。

So, you know, you just have to try and stay focused, not drop ball.

所以，你知道，你只需要嘗試並保持專注，而不是掉球。

And I think, as I was getting closer and closer those last three laps, realizing that it may just be a reality that I'm it's really gonna happen.

我想，當我越來越接近最後三圈的時候，我意識到，這可能只是一個現實，我是它真的會發生。

I think just Aled the emotions from, you know, ALS, those years of my dad working at one time three or four jobs just to keep me racing and truly believing in me.

我想只是阿萊德的情緒，你知道，ALS，那些年，我爸爸一次工作三四份工作，只是為了讓我賽車，真正相信我。

I think all those came through, and that's the first time I've cried in the in the car.

我想這些都通過了，這是我第一次在車裡哭。

So it was really emotional.

所以真的很感慨。

Well, that that was gonna be My next question is that while you seem to be letting you know free with your emotions that moment, what is it like when you're actually taking those hairpin turns and doing 230 miles an hour?

我的下一個問題是，當你似乎讓你知道自由與你的情緒的那一刻， 它是什麼樣子的，當你真正採取這些髮夾彎，並在230英里的時速？

What?

什麼？

What do you have to do with your emotions?

你和你的情緒有什麼關係？

How do you compartmentalize what must be a natural reaction to all that stimulus.

你如何把所有這些刺激的自然反應分門別類。

I wouldn't say it's necessarily that there are some natural reactions, like if you're, you know, in terms of controlling the car.

我不會說一定是有一些自然的反應，比如說你如果，你知道，在控制汽車方面。

But I mean, at the end of the day, why the reason I've always loved it is the speed, It's the adrenaline.

但我的意思是，在一天結束的時候， 為什麼我一直喜歡它的原因是速度， 這是腎上腺素。

And I think when I get in the car, though, I literally just get in some sort of his own.

我想，當我上車的時候，雖然，我從字面上看，我只是在某種他自己的。

And it's It is, you know, it's like a super power to be able to control that car at those speeds in the trickiest conditions.

它就像一種超級力量 能夠在最棘手的情況下以這種速度控制汽車。

I love that challenge because if you'd see the race, there was other people who were struggling.

我喜歡這種挑戰，因為如果你會看到比賽，還有其他人在努力。

And um, yeah, I take a lot of pride in the work that I do it.

嗯，是的，我對我所做的工作感到非常自豪。

People see it and think it's easy, but it's, um it's obviously the work that goes on in the background that people don't get to see.

人們看到它，認為它很容易，但它是，嗯，它顯然是工作，在後臺進行，人們沒有看到。

You know, it's obviously not easy.

你知道，這顯然不容易。

I mean, I feel the same way about being behind this good desk.

我的意思是，我對在這張好桌子後面也有同樣的感覺。

People don't understand the speed or the danger of the danger of face hosting one of these shows.

人們不瞭解速度，也不瞭解面子主持這些節目的危險性。

Any moment.

隨時都可以。

This whole show could spin out now.

這整部劇現在都可以轉出來了。

Is there anything you know?

有什麼你知道的嗎？

I've I've been in a NASCAR while it was rolling, like a five miles an hour on I wanted to hit the brakes.

我已經我已經在納斯卡，而它是滾動的，像一個五英里的時速，我想打剎車。

Is there anything you could compare?

有什麼可以比較的嗎？

Like a average person?

像一般人一樣？

Compare what it feels like to be in a Formula One car is like a roller coaster is like a constant roller coaster on a hairpin turn.

比較一下在F1賽車裡的感覺，就像雲霄飛車就像髮夾彎上不斷的雲霄飛車。

Is it like a fighter jet?

它像戰鬥機嗎？

What is that feeling like, I guess, Well, our sport is kind of unique in the sense that, you know, like, for all of us, we can go hit a kick, a bull and, uh, maybe score a goal that looks like Christiano Ronaldo did it Or hit a ball like Serena once in a while and think that you're you know, you can't go and get in the in the form of one car ever.

那種感覺是什麼，我想，嗯，我們的運動是一種獨特的意義上，你知道，像，我們所有的人，我們可以去打一腳，公牛和，呃，也許進球，看起來像克里斯蒂亞諾-羅納爾多做到了，或者打球像塞雷娜一次在一段時間，認為你是你知道，你不能去，並得到在一輛車的形式永遠。

So I think you can compare it to you know, it's like a fighter jet.

所以我想你可以把它比作你知道的，它就像一架戰鬥機。

It's basically a fighter jet upside down in the sense of ah, fighter Jet of plane has left.

基本上是戰鬥機倒立的意思啊，戰鬥機的噴氣式飛機已經離開了。

We have something called the opposite, which is down for so our wings of the opposite way.

我們有一種東西叫相反的，這是下為所以我們的翅膀的相反的方式。

Andi And the faster you go, the more the car is pushed to the ground.

而且速度越快，車越是被推到地上。

And that's why we could take the corners at 151 180 miles an hour.

這就是為什麼我們能以151... ...180英里的時速過彎的原因。

And the more efficient the car.

而且汽車的效率越高。

The foster weaken Do that.

養成弱化 做到這一點。

How many GS are you pulling?

你拉了多少GS？

If you take a corner 150 miles an hour, about 66 times my body weight sixties I've taken sixties before in the Thunderbirds.

如果你以每小時150英里的速度轉彎，大約是我體重的66倍六十年代，我以前在雷鋒號上也拿過六十年代。

It's an inhuman feeling.

這是一種非人的感覺。

Alright is intense, but you would have felt vertical G.

好吧是激烈，但你會覺得垂直G。

So that has been this way.

所以，一直以來都是這樣。

That way.

這樣一來。

It was where for me, it's lateral and longitudinal.

對我來說，這是橫向和縱向的地方。

Um, let's talk about keeping that car on the ground in this race.

嗯，讓我們來談談如何在這場比賽中保持那輛車在地面上。

The race track and Istanbul was so slick the drivers were slipping during practice when the weather was fine.

在天氣晴朗的時候，賽道和伊斯坦布爾的賽道非常光滑，車手們在練習時都在打滑。

But then there was rain over the weekend.

但週末卻下起了雨。

What were those conditions like for you?

你當時的狀況是怎樣的？

I mean, for the people who understand this sport, people are marveling at a level that I want to be able to appreciate.

我的意思是，對於瞭解這項運動的人來說，人們正在驚歎於我想能夠欣賞的水準。

Explain to me what those conditions were like.

給我解釋一下那些條件是怎樣的。

Yes, so they way hadn't been to this track for nearly 10 years.

是的，所以他們已經近10年沒有來過這個賽道了。

Yeah, nine years, and Esso, they resurfaced the circuit.

是啊，9年了，埃索，他們重新鋪設了電路。

So it's just new comic that you would have on on a highway.

所以，這只是新的漫畫，你會在高速公路上。

But there's basically I don't know why.

但基本上有我不知道為什麼。

It was so, so dirty and usually like weekend.

太，太髒了，平時像週末。

It gets more and more rubber from the tires and it gets better and better.

輪胎的橡膠越來越多，而且越來越好。

But this thing was not that wasn't happening.

但這件事不是沒有發生。

Maybe they resurface it with Teflon, you know, just to keep it clean as possible.

也許他們會用特氟龍重新鋪設表面，你知道的，只是為了儘可能保持乾淨。

Maybe a cheap, cheap job don't know, and and then it rains.

也許是個便宜，便宜的工作不知道，然後就下雨了。

And when it rains, it's It's usually, um, it's the hardest conditions to racing in general.

而當下雨的時候，它通常是，嗯，它是最困難的條件下，賽車在一般情況下。

But at this track, it was like ice we've never experience.

但在這個賽道上，就像我們從未經歷過的冰面。

I don't think any of us drivers have experienced that in, you know, especially in my from one career.

我不認為我們任何一個司機都經歷過，你知道，尤其是在我的職業生涯中。

So the attention to detail, the focus that you needed to have was so intense.

所以對細節的關注，你需要的專注力是如此強烈。

I mean, I've been I've slept most of today, just trying to recover because not only do you lose, you know a lot of energy for mental side.

我的意思是，我一直... ...我今天睡了大半天，只是想恢復一下，因為你不僅失去了，你知道很多能量的精神方面。

You can lose up to £10 in the race.

你可以在比賽中損失高達10英鎊。

Um, this one was cold.

嗯，這個是冷的。

So only lost like £5.

所以只損失了5英鎊左右。

And Justin, Justin sweat or other fluids?

還有賈斯丁，賈斯丁的汗水或其他液體？

Yes.

是的，我知道

Wet.

溼的。

Because I think I would lose some weight Damn quick if I took a corner of 150 miles an hour.

因為我想如果我以時速150英里的速度轉彎的話，我一定會很快瘦下來的。

Yeah, definitely way.

是啊，絕對的方式。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

You said you've been doing this for 27 years.

你說你已經做了27年了。

You've dreamed of doing Formula One.

你一直夢想著做一級方程式賽車 You've dreamed of doing Formula One.

We were just a kid.

我們只是一個孩子。

We have a clip here.

我們這裡有一個片段。

I want to show the audience this is Do you know how old you are in this clip?

我想給觀眾看的是 你知道你在這個片段裡是幾歲嗎？

You're being interviewed because you're a cart racing.

你接受採訪是因為你是個賽車手。

At the time, I was with 10, like, 10 or 10 11 Gymkhana shadows.

當時，我和10個，好像是10個或10個11個Gymkhana的影子。

I went to Belgium and the Saudi yet to speed that they're doing it was amazing because you don't actually think about it when you're watching TV and my cart.

我去了比利時，沙特還沒到他們做的速度是驚人的，因為你在看電視的時候其實不會想到，我的車。

It feels really powerful when I'm in it.

我在裡面的時候，感覺真的很有力量。

But imagine being in the phone.

但試想一下，在電話裡。

One car must be very powerful.

一輛車一定很強大。

That what do you What do you think of when you see that footage?

那你看到那個鏡頭的時候，你會想到什麼？

I imagine it's the same for anyone watching back when they were kids.

想必小時候看回去的人都是一樣的。

There it is.

在那裡，它是。

Embarrassing.

尷尬的。

No, no, not at all.

不，不，一點也不。

You seem pretty self possessed.

你似乎很自負。

Is a 10 year old What would you like to tell that 10 year old kid.

是一個10歲的孩子你想告訴那個10歲的孩子什麼。

Now that you know, seven time world Champion, I think, um, which speeches just to never doubt yourself and continue to believe in yourself always.

現在，你知道，七次世界冠軍，我想，嗯，哪些演講只是永遠不要懷疑自己，繼續相信自己永遠。

And, you know, ultimately, you know, I'm only human.

而且，你知道，最終，你知道，我只是一個人。

And like all of us, we have our ups and downs and and, you know, you're constantly battling the mind in trying to trying to achieve the impossible.

就像我們所有人一樣，我們也有起起伏伏，而且，你知道，你在不斷地與心靈作鬥爭，試圖實現不可能的目標。

And there are days where it feels like it might not work.

而且有的時候，感覺可能不行了。

It feels, you know, there's stages through my career that I didn't think that there were days I didn't think I was good enough.

感覺，你知道，有階段 通過我的職業生涯，我不認為 有天我不認為我是不夠好。

I wasn't gonna make it.

我是不會做的。

And then I go out for a long run.

然後我就出去長跑。

I get back in the car, get back on the horse and just keep pushing and never give up.

我回到車上，重新上馬，就這樣一直努力，永不放棄。

And, you know, that was something my dad instilled in me and I think a za kid.

而且，你知道，這是我爸爸灌輸給我的東西，我認為一個扎孩子。

And it has been challenging at times.

而這有時也是一種挑戰。

You're the first black driver in the 70 year history of Formula One.

你是F170年曆史上第一個黑人車手 You're the first black driver in the 70 year history of Formula One.

And, uh, people were not always welcoming to you.

而且，呃，人們並不總是歡迎你。

And you've raised, uh, awareness of black lives matter.

你提高了，呃，對黑人生命問題的認識。

You've advocated for inclusivity and you've set up something called Hamilton Commission.

你提倡包容性，還成立了一個叫漢密爾頓委員會的東西。

What is that?

那是什麼？

Yes.

是的，我知道

So you know, I don't know if you've seen the movie.

所以你知道，我不知道你是否看過這部電影。

Cool runnings always bring it up.

酷跑總是把它。

But that was one of my favorite movies.

但那是我最喜歡的電影之一。

And which one?

哪一個呢？

What's running?

什麼在跑？

Cool runnings.

涼爽的運行。

Yes, I have.

是的，我有。

You're making bobsleigh team so that when they arrive at the top of the hill the whole Aled, the bobsledders state completely silent and they're like wondering what they're supposed to be doing there.

你在做雪橇隊，所以當他們到達山頂時，整個阿萊德，雪橇手的狀態完全沉默，他們就像想知道他們應該在那裡做什麼。

Um And it was the same for me and my dad.

嗯，這是對我和我爸一樣。

When we arrived the first time a go cart track, we had the go cart was fifth hand.

當我們第一次到達一個圍棋車的賽道時，我們的圍棋車是第五手。

My dad bought it from the back of ah newspaper and we arrived scruffy, and people are like, What these guys doing here with, you know, with the only black people there?

我爸爸從報紙後面買的，我們到了那裡，人們都說，這些人在這裡幹什麼，你知道，只有黑人在那裡？

And of course, we were not always welcome.

當然，我們也不一定受歡迎。

But my dad always just said, Do your talking on the track, and and that's really what we did.

但我爸爸總是說，在賽道上說話，這就是我們所做的。

We just stayed, kept our heads down and did what we loved.

我們只是呆在這裡，低頭做我們喜歡的事情。

And I mean and then I've got a way to form one.

我的意思是，然後我有辦法形成一個。

And again there was, you know, there was a on idea of what a Formula One driver would look like and how they should behave and what they should be like.

同樣的，你知道，當時有一個想法 And again there was, you know, there was a on idea of what a Formula One driver would look like 關於一級方程式賽車手的樣子 and how they should behave and what they should be like.

Andi, I never really felt comfortable conforming to how people would expect.

安迪，我從來沒有真正感覺到舒適 符合人們的期望。

Um, but when I got to form one, I thought just us being there would help shift and break down barriers and help make the sport more diverse.

嗯，但當我得到了形成一個，我想只是我們在那裡將有助於轉變和打破障礙，並有助於使這項運動更加多樣化。

But I realized, after 14 years, looking at the lay out of our sport, it is still not diverse.

但我發現，14年後，看我們體育的佈局，還是不多樣化。

It is still a male, white dominated sport, and I would ask my team like, Why am I one of the only few people out of 2000 people in our team?

這還是一項男性、白人主導的運動，我會問我的團隊，比如，為什麼我們團隊2000人中只有我一個人？

Why am I You know, a handful of minorities there?

為什麼我你知道，那裡有少數幾個少數民族？

And so I put together this helmet commission to try to understand what the barriers are and what the real root of the causes.

所以我組建了這個頭盔委員會，試圖瞭解障礙是什麼，真正的根源是什麼。

So we can, um, ultimate, through those findings, confined away, help encourage young black kids getting into stem rolls into engineering in this industry.

所以，我們可以，嗯，最終，通過這些發現，限制了，幫助鼓勵年輕的黑人孩子進入幹卷，進入這個行業的工程。

And I hope that that you know, we've got people in the commission that are in politics on the ground that could really change, change the legislation, rules and push on the ground in communities to help encourage these kids.

我希望，你知道，我們已經得到了委員會的人，在政治上的地面，可以真正改變，改變立法，規則和推動在社區的地面，以幫助鼓勵這些孩子。

I wanna we gotta go in just a moment.

我想... ...我們得走了，只是在一個瞬間。

But I want to ask you one last question that I'm curious.

但我想問你最後一個問題，我很好奇。

Whenever I meet someone who is at the top of their game and whatever the sport is, I'd like to ask this question.

每當我遇到一個處於巔峰狀態的人，不管是什麼運動，我都想問這個問題。

Is there a movie about your sport that gets it right?

有沒有一部關於你的運動的電影，能把它拍好？

Like four vs Ferrari, Talladega Nights, Talladega Nights?

比如四對法拉利，塔拉迪加之夜，塔拉迪加之夜？

I'm a big fan of Talladega Nights personally when he's when he's on fire and I love that, I don't know.

我是《塔拉迪加之夜》的忠實粉絲，當他火力全開的時候，我喜歡這樣，我不知道。

I think the racing movies always really difficult.

我覺得賽車電影總是真的很難。

I think they're very, very tricky to for people.

我認為他們是非常非常棘手的人。

Thio understand, I guess.

我想，我明白了。

I guess it's a hard sport to people for people to relate to.

我想對人們來說，這是一項很難讓人感受到的運動。

But the Ford versus Ferrari I think they did such a great job is too great.

但福特與法拉利的對比，我覺得他們做得太偉大了。

Incredible actors.

不可思議的演員。

Eso I personally love that.

埃索我個人很喜歡。

It almost encouraged me to potentially go and drive some of those cars, but I'm not going through the month.

這幾乎鼓勵了我有可能去開一些這樣的車，但我不會通過這個月。

Um, well, you got seven world titles now.

嗯，好吧，你現在有七個世界冠軍。

Your contract with Mercedes is up this year.

你和奔馳的合同今年就到期了。

What's next?

下一步是什麼？

I've got to get a new contract.

我得籤個新合同。

Uh, I bet I bet Would you like to be sponsored by a CBS talk show.

呃，我打賭，我打賭，你想被CBS的脫口秀節目贊助嗎？

Uh, I'm interested.

呃，我很感興趣。

I've got space.

我有空間。

Okay, good.

好的，很好。

My face on your hood.

我的臉在你的頭罩上。

I'll be happy with that.

我就很高興了。

Hey, kind of thing nights.

嘿，那種事情夜。

He sells his visor, so I mean, you know I'm open.

他賣他的遮陽板，所以我的意思是，你知道我是開放的。

Well, so nice to meet you.

嗯，很高興見到你。

Thanks for being here, Lewis.

謝謝你來這裡，劉易斯

Even Thank you so much for having me.

甚至謝謝你邀請我。

You can see his next race on November 29th on ESPN.

你可以在11月29日的ESPN上看到他的下一場比賽。

Lewis Hamilton, everybody.

劉易斯-漢密爾頓，各位。

We'll be right back with the performance by Andrea Bocelli.

我們將很快回來 與安德烈波切利的表現。