Thanks for coming on the show.

謝謝你來參加節目。

First, let me just tell you my impressions off Terence Crawford.

首先，讓我告訴你我對泰倫斯-克勞福德的印象。

And then I'd like to hear you tell me if I'm existing in this kind of bubble where you know, incentive shape behavior, right?

然後我想聽你告訴我，如果我存在於這種保麗龍中，你知道，激勵塑造行為，對嗎？

I'm here at ESPN and Top Rank is here, or whether what you see is the same as what I see.

我在ESPN，Top Rank在這裡，或者說你看到的和我看到的是否一樣。

I think Terence Crawford is a complete package, is a fighter.

我認為特倫斯-克勞福德是個完整的人，是個戰士。

He is much less proven at 147 that another way than another weight classes.

他是在147，另一種方式比另一個重量級的證明少得多。

But that's not his fault.

但這不是他的錯。

They keep his promoter, and it's difficult to get guys across the street to fight him.

他們留著他的推廣人，很難讓對面的人和他打。

And yet, against Kell Brook, what I saw was a guy who has evolved from a slick boxing lightweight champion once upon a time to a power punching welterweight, though it's hard to tell how much Kell Brook has left after those devastating losses to glove, skin and, obviously toe Errol Spence.

然而，對陣凱爾布魯克，我看到的是一個人已經從一個光滑的拳擊輕量級冠軍曾經進化到一個強大的拳擊中量級，雖然很難說凱爾布魯克在那些破壞性的損失後離開了手套，皮膚和，顯然是腳趾埃羅爾斯彭斯。

Chris, what do you see?

克里斯，你看到了什麼？

I see arguably the most skilled fighter in all of boxing, but not someone that, quite frankly, can even be considered the top pound for pound guy because of the lack of accomplishments.

我看到的可以說是所有拳擊比賽中技術最精湛的拳手，但不是一個人，坦率地說，甚至可以被認為是頂級的英鎊的人，因為缺乏成就。

Max, you want to put it in the context of a different sport.

麥克斯，你想把它放在不同的運動背景下。

The Lakers aren't the best team in the n B A because their roster is the best.

湖人不是n B A最好的球隊，因為他們的陣容是最好的。

On paper, the Lakers are the best team in the N B A because they beat Portland and Houston and Denver and Miami.

從紙面上看，湖人是N B A中最好的球隊，因為他們擊敗了波特蘭、休斯頓、丹佛和邁阿密。

And they accomplished something Terence Crawford I look at as potentially the best fighter in boxing.

而他們完成了一些事情，特倫斯-克勞福德我看可能是拳擊界最好的拳手。

But he's nowhere near is accomplished as some of the guys that are in this discussion, most notably Canelo Alvarez.

但他遠沒有像這次討論中的一些人那樣有成就，最明顯的是Canelo Alvarez。

I don't think there should be any debates over who the top fighter is in boxing.

我認為不應該爭論誰是拳擊界的頂級拳手。

Canelo Alvarez, at 1 54 fought and beat the best at 1 60 fought and beat at least once, the best in Gennady Golovkin at 1 75.

卡內洛-阿爾瓦雷斯，在1 54戰鬥和擊敗最好的1 60戰鬥和擊敗至少一次，最好的根納迪-戈洛夫金在1 75。

We could argue that Sergei Kovalev is not the same fighter he was when he was fighting on HBO, but he still was a title holder and a big puncher, and Canela moved up and he knocked him out.

我們可以說，謝爾蓋-科瓦列夫已經不是他在HBO上戰鬥時的那個戰士了，但他仍然是一個冠軍持有人和一個大拳手，卡內拉移動了，他把他打倒了。

So to me, resume is all that matters when you make pound for pound Lis.

所以，對我來說，履歷才是最重要的，當你做磅李斯。

Okay, well, you and I have very different feeling about the resume.

好吧，你和我對履歷的感覺很不一樣。

I think when you're ranking fighters and you have to have in order to establish a title shot resume, is everything right?

我想，當你對拳手進行排名時，你必須要有為了建立一個冠軍賽的履歷，一切都對嗎？

It's got to be meritocratic.

一定要擇優錄取。

But when it comes to pound for pound because it's subjective, it's our opinion.

但說到斤斤計較，因為它是主觀的，是我們的意見。

To me.

對我來說

It's about you.

這是關於你的。

Look at everybody, you look at the landscape, and I think that guy's the most effective operator in his weight class right now.

你看看大家，你看看風景，我覺得那傢伙是現在他的體重級別中最有效的操作者。

I think that's Crawford.

我想那是克勞福德。

What you just said about Canelo.

你剛才說的卡內洛。

Crawford did that.

克勞福德做到了。

At 35.

在35歲。

He did it at 40.

他在40歲的時候做的。

Now he's at 47 where he's been locked out of opportunity.

現在他已經到了47歲，在那裡他已經被鎖住了機會。

But along the way, he hasn't had any close calls, as Canelo did against Erislandy.

但一路走來，他並沒有像卡內羅對陣埃里斯蘭迪那樣險象環生。

Lara could have gone either way.

Lara可能會有兩種情況。

Austin Trout Very close.

奧斯汀-特勞特非常接近。

Golovkin a better fighter than obviously Terence Crawford, has fought, but they were close competitive fights, and so I like Crawford there, but But I understand there's a difference in philosophy.

戈洛夫金是一個更好的拳手，比顯然特倫斯-克勞福德，已經打過，但他們是密切的競爭戰鬥，所以我喜歡克勞福德那裡，但我明白有一個哲學的差異。

What do you think about the way Crawford look looked against Kell Brook?

你覺得克勞福德對陣凱爾-布魯克的樣子如何？

Well, Crawford's a puncher, and you can hit with both hands, but I do think that was Maura about what Kell Brook is than something turns.

嗯，克勞福德是一個拳手，你可以用雙手打，但我認為這是Maura關於什麼凱爾-布魯克是比東西轉。

Crawford continues to evolve to be.

克勞福德繼續發展成為。

One thing we know about fighters and wait is that when you struggle to make weight, your punch resistance goes down.

關於拳手和等待，我們知道的一件事是，當你努力做重的時候，你的抗擊打能力就會下降。

As you get older, your punch resistance goes down.

隨著年齡的增長，你的抗衝能力會下降。

And Kell Brook It was three years ago, Max, that Kell Brook vowed to never fight at 1 47 again, he was done with £147 division.

而凱爾-布魯克 這是三年前，馬克斯，凱爾-布魯克發誓再也不在147英鎊師打比賽了，他已經完成了147英鎊師。

Now I give him all the credit in the world for making the weight.

現在我把所有的功勞都歸功於他，因為他的體重。

That is a discipline.

這是一門學問。

He did it, He made the way clean and the fight was on.

他做到了，他把路走得很乾淨，比賽也開始了。

But I thought he really had to take himself to task to get down £247 of how that fight played out didn't surprise me.

但我以為他真的要自己去拿下247英鎊的那場比賽是怎麼打出來的我並不意外。

One bit happened a little earlier than I thought it was gonna happen.

有一點發生的比我想象的要早一些。

But I expected turns Crawford to knock out Kell Brook spectacularly, and that's exactly what he did because we have a good time.

但我期望輪到克勞福德把凱爾-布魯克壯觀地打倒，這正是他所做的，因為我們有一個好時機。

You're not G eking out when we see each other on the road.

我們在路上見面的時候，你就不在了。

Different events about boxing, basketball, but I want to get your your hits, so we have to pace it right now.

關於拳擊、籃球的不同事件，但我想讓你的你的命中率，所以我們現在必須要有節奏。

on a couple of topics in the fight game.

關於格鬥遊戲中的幾個話題。

First of all, Crawford's future because people are talking Pacquiao Spence is that wishful thinking.

首先，克勞福德的未來，因為人們都在談論帕奎奧-斯彭斯，就是這麼一廂情願。

His contract with top rank recently, Bob Arum made comments about that.

最近他與最高級別的合同，鮑勃-阿魯姆對此發表了評論。

He's losing money on Crawford and also Canellos Future.

他在克勞福德身上賠錢，也在卡內洛斯未來身上賠錢。

Let's start with Crawford quickly.

先快說說克勞福德吧。

What do you see?

你看到了什麼？

I think Crawford.

我認為克勞福德。

They're going to try as hard as they can to make this Spence fight in the first quarter of 2021.

他們會盡最大努力讓這場斯彭斯的比賽在2021年第一季度進行。

And there really is no excuse for it not to happen.

而這一切真的沒有理由不發生。

There isn't a logical opponent for Spence on his side of the street.

斯彭斯這邊沒有一個合理的對手。

Keith Thurman is not really somebody's interested in.

基斯-瑟曼並不是真正的某人感興趣。

Nobody really cares right now about a Sean Porter rematch, so the time is now.

現在沒有人真正關心肖恩-波特的重賽，所以現在是時候了。

If that fight can't be made, I do see a productive 2021.

如果這一戰不能成行，我倒是看到了2021年的成果。

I mean, Crawford could move up to £154 and fight Patrick to share a if to share a wins his next fight.

我的意思是，克勞福德可以移動到154英鎊，並與帕特里克戰鬥，以分享一個如果分享一個贏得他的下一場比賽。

That would be a feather in his cap, and if he did that, he would be able to fight the winner, perhaps, of Josh Taylor vs Jose Ramirez, which would be a really intriguing fight in the second half of 2021.

這將是他的一個羽翼，如果他這樣做，他將能夠與Josh Taylor對Jose Ramirez的勝者戰鬥，也許，這將是2021年下半年的一場非常有趣的戰鬥。

So even without Spence, I can see a productive year for Terence Crawford.

所以，即使沒有斯彭斯，我也能看到泰倫斯-克勞福德今年的成果。

As Faras Canelo goes, Eddie Hearn kind of pulled a rabbit out of his hat here in the last couple of days.

法拉斯-卡內洛說，埃迪-赫恩這幾天從帽子裡掏出了一隻兔子。

I mean, getting Canelo to sign on to fight Callum Smith, who I think is the best 168 pounder and boxing right now.

我的意思是，讓卡內洛簽約打卡勒姆-史密斯，我認為他是現在最好的168磅和拳擊。

That is a coup for Eddie Hearn and a coup for his own to get Canelo back in the mix and because any is linked to Gennady Golovkin, I think there is a very strong possibility, in fact, the likelihood that in May of 2021 we see Canelo vs Golovkin three.

這是埃迪-赫恩的政變，也是他自己的政變，讓卡內洛回到組合中，因為任何都與根納迪-戈洛夫金聯繫在一起，我認為有一個非常大的可能性，事實上，在2021年5月，我們看到卡內洛與戈洛夫金三人的可能性。

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