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  • sign the Supermax extension that he will inevitably be offered and commit to Milwaukee long term or turn it down.

    簽下他必然會得到的超級大合同,並長期致力於密爾沃基,否則就拒絕。

  • Now, that doesn't mean that he would ask for a trade.

    現在,這並不意味著他會要求交易。

  • It just means he would not sign an extension early.

    這只是意味著他不會提前簽下續約合同。

  • But that would put him on the path to become a free agent after next season.

    但這將使他在下賽季結束後成為自由球員。

  • Now he could always Brian, of course, sign a Supermax extension Myth Milwaukee next summer.

    現在他可以一直布萊恩,當然,明年夏天簽下超級大合同神話密爾沃基。

  • But I heard you talking about this on your podcast and you had another option going.

    但我聽到你在你的播客上說起這個,你還有另一個選擇。

  • In fact, you harking back to a situation between Paul George and the Oklahoma City thunder.

    事實上,你想起了保羅-喬治和俄克拉荷馬城雷霆隊之間的情況。

  • Could you lay out what you were talking about there for your TV audience who don't happen to listen to the who e have to just say, Rachel, I Yeah, I have to just say I feel I already feel for the Milwaukee Bucks fans if he doesn't sign this extension because it is going to be a day by day pressure fest.

    你能不能為你的電視觀眾說說你在那裡說的是什麼,誰不碰巧聽了誰e不得不說,瑞秋,我是的,我不得不說我覺得我已經感覺到了密爾沃基雄鹿隊的球迷,如果他不簽署這個擴展,因為這將是一個一天一天的壓力盛會。

  • I've been there on the front lines, feeling that it is not comfortable, but at the same time, if you wanna signs that he really trades away, his options, um, really in for no reason other than toe be nice to the Bucks.

    我一直在前線,感覺不舒服,但同時,如果你想跡象,他真的交易走了,他的選擇,嗯,真的在沒有任何理由,除了腳趾是好的籃板。

  • So is there a middle path here?

    那麼,這裡是否有一條中間道路呢?

  • Is there a negotiation that can be done?

    有沒有可以協商的餘地?

  • And there may be, as you mentioned, which is what happened with Paul George and the Thunder a couple years ago.

    而且可能會有,就像你提到的,這就是幾年前保羅-喬治和雷霆隊的情況。

  • Now, this wasn't publicized.

    現在,這並沒有被公開。

  • It wasn't formalized, But the thunder were worried about Paul George leaving.

    雖然沒有正式確定,但雷霆很擔心保羅-喬治離開。

  • And so they said to him, Look, why don't you sign a long term extension here?

    於是他們對他說,你看,你為什麼不在這裡籤一份長期的續約合同呢?

  • You're gonna be we're gonna be with us.

    你要去... ...我們要和我們在一起。

  • And if for whatever reason, you feel like you don't wanna be here anymore, we'll work with you privately and quietly to trade you.

    如果出於某種原因,你覺得你不想再待在這裡了,我們會和你私下裡悄悄地交換你。

  • And a year into that extension, that's exactly what happened.

    而延期一年後,正是這樣的情況。

  • And they handled that trade as clean and quiet as possible in both sides.

    而他們處理那筆交易的時候,雙方都儘可能的乾淨利落。

  • Benefited.

    受益:

  • Now nobody can predict the future, but it's an $82 million difference for for ya, Santana Campo between signing the Supermax extension or leaving and signing somewhere else.

    現在沒有人可以預測未來,但對你來說,桑塔納-坎波在簽下超級大合同或離開並簽下其他地方之間,有8200萬美元的差別。

  • So that's got his incentive right there.

    所以這就有了他的動力。

  • And could the Bucks and Yanis have a secret agreement under the same thing and he would be tied to the team for at least two years because you can't trade.

    而籃網和雅尼斯能不能在同樣的事情下達成祕密協議,他至少要和球隊捆綁兩年,因為你不能交易。

  • You can't be traded for a year after signing the Supermax and you would be committed to the team.

    簽下超級豪門後,一年內不能被交易,你會對球隊有所承諾。

  • You would get your money, you would remove the pressure, but you wouldn't.

    你會得到你的錢,你會消除壓力,但你不會。

  • 100% give up your optionality.

    100%放棄你的選擇權。

  • And look, this is not something that that the bucks could ever come on.

    而且你看,這不是那塊錢能上的東西。

  • Talk about it.

    說說看。

  • Yeah, this could ever come out and talk about, but I gotta believe with something that they have to have discussions about as they head towards now a deadline, which is the start of the season for him to sign that extension or not.

    是的,這可能曾經出來和談論,但我得相信與東西,他們必須有討論,因為他們走向現在的截止日期,這是本賽季開始,他簽署該擴展或不。

  • You know, Brian, that's an interesting scenario.

    你知道,布萊恩,這是一個有趣的情況。

  • But here's the down.

    但這裡的下。

  • Now I'm gonna play the Scrooge here.

    現在我要在這裡扮演一個吝嗇鬼。

  • Okay, Here's the downside to this.

    好吧,這裡是這個缺點。

  • I would say that if he leaves in free agency, he's the bad guy.

    我想說的是,如果他在自由市場離開,他就是壞人。

  • But if he asks out of the deal, I think that could be worse.

    但如果他要求退出交易,我想這可能會更糟。

  • Potentially from a PR standpoint.

    從公關的角度來看,有可能。

  • At least that's because he could always go back to saying, Well, I'm a free agent.

    至少這是因為他可以隨時回去說,好吧,我是自由球員。

  • This is what I've been playing for to get to this point and make a decision where if you ask out, I think you could potentially look worse.

    這是我一直玩到現在,做出的決定,如果你問出來,我覺得你有可能看起來更糟糕。

  • And here's the other part of this.

    而這裡的另一部分。

  • What if Milwaukee says to him, Yeah, we don't think we're getting enough back, so we're not going to deal with it and or deal you somewhere.

    如果密爾沃基對他說,是的,我們不認為我們得到了足夠的回報,所以我們不打算處理它,或者處理你的地方。

  • Then you could have some potential issues there, and it can get contentious.

    那麼你可能會有一些潛在的問題,而且可能會引起爭議。

  • Like I don't know if that's in the best interest of Yannis.

    就像我不知道這是否是在揚尼斯的最佳利益。

  • From a public relations standpoint, Brian, you're shaking your head well, First off, first off, it's messy.

    從公共關係的角度來看,布萊恩,你搖頭好了,首先,首先,這很亂。

  • It's not clean.

    它不乾淨。

  • Of course, it's not clean.

    當然,它不乾淨。

  • It can't be formalized, and it za about trust.

    不能形式化,它za關乎信任。

  • But yes, the its's way better for the Bucks for you.

    但是,是的,它的方式更好的籃板球為你。

  • Honest to do this because in the event that he in two years, was not happy with the direction of the franchise, they could get a return for him, and the return they could get for him would be huge, because he'd be under long term contract.

    老實說,這樣做是因為萬一兩年後他對加盟店的發展方向不滿意,他們可以為他爭取到回報,而他們能為他爭取到的回報將是巨大的,因為他將簽訂長期合同。

  • If you look at the return that the Thunder God for Paul George now granted, that was slanted because Kawhi Leonard was a part of the deal.

    如果你看看現在雷神為保羅-喬治准予的回報,那是傾斜的,因為卡維-萊昂納德是交易的一部分。

  • But look at the return that the Thunder got for Russell Westbrook.

    但看看雷霆隊用拉塞爾-威斯布魯克得到的回報。

  • They got that because he was under long term contract.

    他們得到了,因為他是長期合同。

  • Uh, any time you ever would leave a franchise, if you're a star player, it would be difficult.

    呃,任何時候你都會離開一個特許經營權, 如果你是一個明星球員,這將是困難的。

  • But if you did this, not only would you keep the bucks in, you know, some peace in the short term, give them a real chance that this season without being distracted, you would also open the door that, if for some reason down the road, it doesn't work out that you do wanna leave that the Bucks could get a King's ransom for you in return.

    但如果你這樣做,你不僅會保持在公鹿,你知道,一些和平在短期內,給他們一個真正的機會,本賽季沒有被分心,你也會打開大門,如果出於某種原因下來的道路,它不工作了,你確實想離開,公鹿可以得到一個國王的贖金為你的回報。

  • And no, it wouldn't be like free agency because you wouldn't be able to choose your team.

    不,它不會像自由市場一樣,因為你無法選擇你的球隊。

  • But the amount of power he has, he probably would be able to direct it.

    但他的力量之大,大概能指揮得動。

  • And again, this is not something that I think could be used on a regular basis.

    而這又是我認為不能經常使用的東西。

  • But I do think it's a it's a middle path.

    但我確實認為這是一條它的中庸之道。

  • It's another option that could be explored where everybody could get what they need.

    這是另一個可以探索的方案,每個人都可以得到自己需要的東西。

  • I appreciate that.

    我很感激

  • I think you're making good points, but I'm with George.

    我覺得你說的很有道理,但我支持喬治。

  • I got to say if I was honest, I would not do that because then you are in the position of having to be the actor in a year or two and having to be the force that asked out of there.

    我得說,如果我是誠實的,我不會這麼做,因為那樣你就會處於一兩年後不得不成為演員的位置,不得不成為問出那裡的力量。

  • I think that is very delicate, even if you will be technically leaving the team in a better position because they will get assets for you.

    我認為這是非常微妙的,即使你在技術上會讓球隊處於一個更好的位置,因為他們將為你獲得資產。

  • And the fact that they will get assets for you, by the way, denigrates the team that you will be going to because you talk about Russell Westbrook getting traded, right?

    而事實上,他們將為你獲得資產,順便詆譭你將去的球隊,因為你說的是拉塞爾-維斯特布魯克被交易,對吧?

  • Well, guess what?

    你猜怎麼著?

  • Houston had to give up a lot for him.

    為了他,休斯頓不得不放棄很多。

  • Talk about Paul, George and the trade.

    談談保羅、喬治和交易。

  • You know that the Clippers gave up a lot for Paul George $2 million and well, but this is the thing.

    你知道快船隊為了保羅-喬治放棄了很多,200萬美金,好吧,但這是事情。

  • And, you know, I've said this on the show for years since the summer you were sitting at that table with you, me and Tracy McGrady.

    而且,你知道,我已經說了很多年的節目... ...因為夏天你坐在那張桌子上,你,我和Tracy McGrady。

  • That's when the Supermax got past.

    這時,超霸就過去了。

  • Initially after 2016 season, Kevin Durant goes to the Warriors and they come up with the Supermax.

    最初在2016賽季之後,凱文-杜蘭特去了勇士,他們拿出了超級大禮包。

  • And I said to Tracy, You tell me I don't have $82 million in my bank account ever, so I cannot tell you how I should feel about this is an $82 million bribe enough to derail your career in a place you otherwise would not want to be in.

    我對特雷西說,你告訴我,我的銀行賬戶裡從來沒有8200萬美元,所以我不能告訴你我應該如何看待這是個8200萬美元的賄賂,足以讓你的事業在一個你本來不想去的地方脫軌。

  • And player after player we have seen has said whether it's Anthony Davis, whether it's other players have said no, you know what?

    而我們看到的一個又一個球員都說不管是安東尼-戴維斯,不管是其他球員都說不行,你知道嗎?

  • It's not enough because I can make out that money, make up that money in other places with other contracts over the ensuing years.

    這還不夠,因為我可以把這些錢賺出來,在接下來的幾年裡,用其他合同在其他地方補上這些錢。

  • We just have not seen that bribe work, and that doesn't surprise me with the kind of players that we have.

    我們只是沒有看到這種賄賂的效果,以我們的這種球員,這並不讓我感到驚訝。

  • Who could be in line for that?

    誰能排到這個位置?

  • You know what else we haven't seen?

    你知道還有什麼是我們沒見過的嗎?

  • Rachel.

    瑞秋。

  • You know what else we haven't seen?

    你知道還有什麼是我們沒見過的嗎?

  • Bring it way almost have never seen a player.

    帶來的方式幾乎沒見過玩家。

  • Ah, star player who's on a contract that doesn't extend end up resigning with his team.

    啊,明星球員如果合同不續簽,最後就會和球隊簽約。

  • That is true.

    這倒是真的。

  • Paul George was an outlier.

    保羅-喬治是個例外。

  • Now it happened with Steph Curry because his contract was set up.

    現在發生在斯蒂芬-庫裡身上,是因為他的合同被安排好了。

  • He couldn't really extend players who don't extend often leave.

    他無法真正延長不延長的球員經常離開。

  • Getting an extension is vital, and it puts everything on a better timeline.

    獲得延期是至關重要的,它能讓一切都在一個更好的時間軸上。

  • If you if he does not extend, even if he has great great reasons, he is going to, he's going to put enormous pressure on this Bucks season.

    如果你如果他不續約,即使他有很大很大的理由,他也要續約,他會給這個籃網賽季帶來巨大的壓力。

  • I'm telling you, it's something that should not be dismissed.

    我告訴你,這是不應該被否定的事情。

  • I agree with that.

    我同意這一點。

  • I mean, George, obviously, he can't sign in the middle of this season.

    我的意思是,喬治,很明顯,他不能在這個賽季中籤。

  • He's got to sign either before December 20 seconds or not again till the following summer.

    他要麼在12月20秒前簽約,要麼到明年夏天再籤。

  • What do you think it's gonna be like for the Bucks?

    你覺得籃網會是什麼樣子?

  • And honest if he doesn't sign the Supermax, even though he could still sign it the following off season?

    如果他不簽下超級豪門,即使下一個休賽期還能簽下,也會很誠實?

  • I think it's gonna be tough to Brian's point, but I think you can shut that down like you just say, Look, Lebron's done it right.

    我認為這會是艱難的布萊恩的觀點,但我認為你可以關閉,就像你只是說,你看,勒布朗的做法是正確的。

  • Other guys have done it like I'm not answering for agency question guys, you can ask all you want, but we're just moving on to the next thing.

    其他的人都是這樣做的,比如我不回答中介問題的人,你可以隨便問,但我們只是在進行下一件事。

sign the Supermax extension that he will inevitably be offered and commit to Milwaukee long term or turn it down.

簽下他必然會得到的超級大合同,並長期致力於密爾沃基,否則就拒絕。

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