If you If you left IBM after 15 years of service, you'll be the most sought after in the high executive level.

如果你 如果你服務了15年後離開IBM，你將成為高管層中最搶手的人。

You'd be most sought after person on the open market.

你會成為公開市場上最搶手的人。

In other businesses.

在其他企業。

In other parts of the same business, basketball and sports seems to be the only thing they say.

在同行業的其他地方，籃球和體育似乎是他們唯一要說的。

Well, no, you need to go to the mail room after you've done 15 years of being an MBA champion on N B.

嗯，不，你需要去收發室 在你做了15年的MBA冠軍之後，在N B。

A All Star ah, veteran of the game and all the knowledge that you have.

一個全明星啊，資深的遊戲和所有的知識，你有。

Can you tell me LeBron James, after 20 years, could not coach a basketball team?

你能告訴我，勒布朗-詹姆斯在20年後，不能執教一支籃球隊嗎？

He's coaching one right now in in a sense, so it's the only sport that they look at.

他現在執教一個在某種意義上，所以這是他們唯一看中的運動。

And then you say, Do they do that because it is an African American, heavily based or they don't do it because that's just the thought process.

然後你說，他們這麼做是因為它是一個非裔美國人，基礎很好，還是他們不這麼做，因為這只是思維過程。

Either way, it's wrong on for me.

無論哪種方式，對我來說都是錯誤的。

That's how I look at it.

我就是這麼看的。

I just think that your service 20 years, if Stephen A and Max said, Hey, I'm gonna leave the ESPN and I'm going to do something else in media you are the most sought after people because of your knowledge and information that you have.

我只是認為，你的服務20年，如果斯蒂芬A和馬克斯說，嘿，我要離開ESPN，我要做一些其他的媒體你是最搶手的人，因為你的知識和資訊，你有。

So why wouldn't it translate in anything else in sports for some reason, a reason, a place that they don't do that?

那為什麼在其他的體育項目中不會因為某種原因、某種理由、某種地方而轉化為他們不這樣做呢？

Well, I mean, this country has a long history of African American labor but white ownership and management, And I think that's why um, it's, um, important issue Stephen A.

我的意思是，這個國家有很長的歷史 非洲裔美國人的勞動，但白人的所有權和管理， 我認為這就是為什麼，嗯，這是一個重要的問題，斯蒂芬A.

That you point out, I want to get back to the court for a second Kenny.

你指出的，我想回到法庭上，肯尼。

I noticed, and it's playing out in these finals again.

我注意到了，這在這幾場決賽中又上演了。

The history of the MBA has been to M V P.

MBA的歷史已經到了M V P。

Caliber Players on the same team win the championship almost every year.

同一球隊的口徑球員幾乎年年奪冠。

Occasionally, like you guys have won M v p caliber player.

偶爾，像你們這樣贏得了M v p口徑的球員。

But then really good players like you, a young Sam Cassell, a young Robert Ory, and when you repeated you had Clyde Drexler, although to be fair during one in the league, right?

但是，然後像你這樣真正的好球員，一個年輕的薩姆-卡塞爾，一個年輕的羅伯特-奧利，當你重複你有克萊德-德雷克斯勒，雖然是公平的期間一個在聯盟中，對不對？

Like that's when you guys got it.

就像那時候你們得到了它。

Because once again, to M v.

因為再一次向M訴說。

P.

P.

Players weren't on the same team.

球員不在同一隊。

So I look at this Miami Heat team, no M v p players and now they're going up against a team with two.

所以我看這支邁阿密熱火隊，沒有M v P球員，現在他們要面對一支有兩個人的球隊。

And with one issue with the MBA is that once the team has to players like that, there's very little you can do to stop him.

而MBA的一個問題是，一旦球隊要這樣的球員，你幾乎沒有辦法阻止他。

You know, like it feels to me like a finals like this is bad for the league after the playoffs were so good for it.

你知道，就像我感覺這樣的總決賽對聯盟很不利，因為季後賽對聯盟很有利。

Because there was a little randomness injected into it because of the bubble, because the different circumstances it was legitimately like six or eight teams you felt like could make the finals right?

因為有一點隨機性注入，因為保麗龍，因為不同的情況下，它是合法的像六支或八支球隊，你覺得可以進入總決賽吧？

Maybe four or five might win the whole thing.

也許四五個人可能會贏得整個事情。

And now it's like, Oh, here we go.

現在它就像，哦，在這裡我們去。

Uh, is there anything to be done about that?

呃，有什麼辦法嗎？

Is there anything toe to be done about the kind of predictability off Here comes Steph and KD with Clay and Draymond.

有什麼辦法可以解決這種可預測性的問題嗎？ 斯蒂芬和KD與克萊和德雷蒙德來了。

You know, even LeBron I'm gonna do nothing against that.

你知道，即使是勒布朗，我也不會做任何反對的事情。

Is there anything that you've ever thought of that can be done to address that.

你有沒有想過，有什麼辦法可以解決這個問題。

Yeah, well, firstly, Michael Jordan was wearing number 45 the year we did, but they lost to a team for two that we swept.

是啊，首先，邁克爾-喬丹在我們做的那一年穿的是45號，但他們輸給了一支我們橫掃的球隊。

So he was in the league that year.

所以他當年在聯盟。

Forget Hey, when he was averaging 30 points and getting 55 in the garden, nobody was saying that he was He was he was rusty.

忘了嘿，當他在花園裡場均30分，拿到55分的時候，沒有人說他是他是他是生疏人。

But anyway, I diverse, but I think you know the Detroit Pistons way.

但無論如何，我多樣化，但我認為你知道底特律活塞隊的方式。

Look at Chauncey Billups and you look at you know, Rasheed Wallace and Benoit Ben Wallace and Rip Hamilton.

看看Chauncey Billups，再看看你知道的Rasheed Wallace和Benoit Ben Wallace還有Rip Hamilton。

All great players know M v P caliber player, but they all were are super great players.

所有偉大的球員都知道M v P口徑的球員，但他們都是超級偉大的球員。

That's what you have with possibly with Miami.

這就是你與可能與邁阿密。

So you can win that way.

所以你可以這樣贏。

They've gotten to the N B a finals.

他們已經進入了N B決賽。

They've beaten these teams with, you know, Kemba Walker And, you know, and all of the and chasing Tatum and Brown all of these 33 and two.

他們已經擊敗了這些球隊，你知道，肯巴-沃克和，你知道，所有的和追逐塔圖姆和布朗所有這些33和兩個。

Yeah, you know, two or three guys collectively together, So yeah, it is possible.

是的，你知道，兩三個人集體在一起，所以是的，這是可能的。

I think what you have to do is that everyone has deficiencies in because when you have those super teams and you have super players.

我覺得你要做的是，每個人都有不足的地方，因為當你有那些超級球隊，你有超級球員。

Rather, I don't call them super teams Super players.

而是我不稱他們為超級球隊超級球員。

Then you do have some deficiencies because you aren't able to pay the holes all the time.

那麼你確實有一些不足，因為你沒有能力一直支付孔。

You know you're not ableto always.

你知道你不能總是這樣。

Danny Green is great for the For them.

丹尼-格林對他們來說是偉大的。

KCP is great, but they are older.

KCP很好，但他們年紀大了。

They're not the same Danny Green that was with the Spurs and with even Toronto.

他們已經不是當初在馬刺隊，甚至在多倫多的那個丹尼-格林了。

So there are the same guys that were when they first when they first signed KCP for 17 million.

所以，有的人和他們當初以1700萬簽下KCP時一樣。

They are older in their in their years, so they're banking J.

他們的年歲大了，所以他們在銀行J。

R.

R.

Smith's that are on the bench.

史密斯的，是在板凳上。

They signed Dion waiters.

他們簽下了迪翁服務員。

You know they're banking on experience with the goal with those guys with sometimes doesn't get it done, experience might not get it done for youthful exuberance and energy.

你知道他們寄希望於經驗與目標與那些傢伙有時並不能完成，經驗可能無法完成年輕的活力和精力。

So, yes, I don't think you have to dismantle away every the league does it, Um, you have a team that's in the finals.

所以，是的，我不認為你必須拆開每一個聯盟做的，嗯，你有一個團隊，在總決賽。

That said, You know, we're here based on that, and maybe I'll superstars Jimmy Butler and we have some rising superstars coming up with them.

也就是說，你知道，我們在這裡的基礎上，也許我會超級巨星吉米-巴特勒和我們有一些新晉的超級巨星與他們。

Kenny, I want to wrap this up just by focusing on you.

肯尼，我想把注意力集中在你身上，來結束這一切。

We talked about what type of player you are, what type of analyst and hearing your aspirations to be an exact I hope that works out for you because, uh, that experience you have is invaluable.

我們談到了你是什麼類型的球員，什麼類型的分析師，聽到你的願望是一個確切的我希望你的工作了，因為，呃，你的經驗是無價的。

You can't learn that from a textbook.

你不能從教科書上學到這些。

And if we're talking about diversity and inclusion, especially at the brass level, we need to see that in the MBA, predominantly black sport.

如果我們正在談論多樣性和包容性，特別是在黃銅層面，我們需要在MBA中看到這一點，主要是黑人運動。

I also pay attention to when people have a platform.

我也注意人傢什麼時候有平臺。

Did they pay it forward?

他們有沒有提前支付？

And you dio You're doing that with the Jet Academy.

你和噴氣式飛機學院的人也是這樣做的

Tell us what you're doing.

告訴我們你在做什麼。

Still doing the Jet Academy.

還在做噴射學院。

It's been we've been doing it.

我們一直在做。

It's a virtual streaming basketball camp, you know, And for for everyone, that's we're still living in this social distance pandemic.

這是一個虛擬的流媒體籃球訓練營，你知道的，對於大家來說，那就是我們仍然生活在這個社交距離的大環境中。

You go online and get academy camp dot com.

你去網上找學院營點網。

We become your personal trainers.

我們成為您的私人教練。

You know, we still have Kemba Walker.

你知道，我們還有肯巴-沃克。

We have Victor Oladipo, Briana Stewart, Brittany Greiner in the NBA trade.

我們有維克多-奧拉迪波，布里安娜-斯圖爾特，布列塔尼-格里納在NBA交易。

Young has been part of it as well, you know, just for one hour a day.

楊也是其中的一員，你知道的，只是每天一個小時。

I just felt it was important for them and myself to get back Thio.

我只是覺得找回Thio對他們和自己都很重要。

Youth people go on and sign up.

青年人去報名。

Shack has given us a big shot code where you could sign up and get your first month free.

Shack給了我們一個大手筆的代碼，在這裡你可以註冊並獲得第一個月的免費。

You put in big, big shock.

你把大，大的衝擊。

And so it's just a great opportunity.

所以這只是一個很好的機會。

Thio.

Thio.

Be safe in this environment.

在這種環境下要注意安全。

Still work on your game from all ages again.

還是再從各年齡段的遊戲上下功夫。

Jet academy camp dot com.

噴射學院營點網。

So I'm enjoying.

所以我很喜歡。

I'm getting a workout like Like I didn't think I was gonna be working out like this.

我得到的鍛鍊就像我沒想到我會是這樣的工作。

E.

E.

It's like it's coming back a little bit.

好像是回來了一點。

Everything but jumping the jumpers back.

除了跳樓的人，其他的一切。

But the jumping is gone.

但跳的時候已經沒有了。

I love it.

我喜歡它。

All of a sudden you got some different aches and pains you didn't have before.

突然間，你有了一些不同的疼痛，你以前沒有的。

Right for sure.

當然是對的。

Thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

Subscribe to ESPN, plus.

訂閱ESPN，加。