Name: 妮可-華萊士談特朗普將如何處理權力交接 - CONAN on TBS頻道 (Nicolle Wallace On How Trump Would Handle A Transition Of Power - CONAN on TBS)
Uploaded: 2020-11-06T18:30:45.000Z
Duration: 8 min 1 s

Let's say it plays out the way we think it's going to play out.

假設它按照我們認為的方式播放出來。

基礎被動語態

Let's say that that Biden is declared the winner.

程度副詞

My guess is Trump doesn't concede there's a bunch of lawsuits, but my guess is they don't really go anywhere because they're they're frivolous lawsuits.

我猜特朗普不承認有一堆訴訟，但我猜他們不會真的去任何地方，因為他們是他們是輕率的訴訟。

而且我覺得票數已經很小心了。

If you had to guess, what does Trump do between now and Inauguration Day?

如果讓你猜，從現在到就職典禮日，特朗普會做什麼？

And by the way, I don't see him sitting up there on the day I said the inauguration, I think he'll be.

順便說一句，我說就職典禮那天，我看他也不會坐在上面，我想他會。

I think he'll pull a Herbert Hoover and just take off.

我想他會像赫伯特-胡佛一樣，然後離開。

Or, to be fair, John Adams look, his folks, his supporters and advisers warned before the election that it did.

或者，公平地說，約翰-亞當斯看，他的鄉親們，他的支持者和顧問們在選舉前警告說，它確實如此。

And it should be said that the Biden campaign, the Trump campaign, saw the race the same way.

而應該說，拜登競選團隊、特朗普競選團隊也是這樣看待這場比賽的。

Coming into the final weekend, they saw Trump Azaz um, tightening in the final week, but not with a clear path to 2 70.

來到最後一個週末，他們看到特朗普阿扎茲嗯，在最後一週收緊，但沒有明確的路徑，2 70。

The Biden folks really thought text and I kept saying this on election night, I thought Joy and Rachel says we're gonna explode.

拜登的人真的以為文字，我在選舉當晚一直在說這個，我以為喬伊和瑞秋說我們要爆炸了。

But the Biden campaign didn't have Florida or Texas on their path to 2 70.

但拜登競選活動在通往2 70的道路上並沒有佛羅里達州和德克薩斯州。

I mean, they were really, um, singularly focused on those on the Upper Midwest in Pennsylvania, and they always looked, um, within reaching in Arizona.

我的意思是，他們真的，嗯， 單一專注於那些 在賓夕法尼亞州的上中西部， 他們總是看，嗯， 在亞利桑那州達到。

But what the Trump folks said to me was that it depends on how Trump loses.

但特朗普的人對我說的是，這要看特朗普怎麼輸。

And if he wins and a contestant in close race, he will probably, uh, forgo all of the traditions of the transition.

如果他贏了，而且是一個參賽者，在激烈的比賽中，他可能會，呃，放棄所有的傳統的過渡。

He would be very unlikely toe invite Joe Biden to the Oval Office and talk to him.

他不太可能邀請喬-拜登到橢圓形辦公室和他談話。

And frankly, at this point, Joe Biden probably knows more about the presidency than Trump does.

而且坦率地說，在這一點上，喬-拜登可能比特朗普更瞭解總統職位。

If he went to meet with Donald Trump, Joe Biden might have to show him where the Oval Office is.

如果他去見唐納德-特朗普，喬-拜登可能要告訴他橢圓形辦公室在哪裡。

Make him turn on the lights for the longest.

我的意思是，你知道，但是是的。

And if you can think of other traditions not so much public facing ones.

如果你能想到其他的傳統不那麼面向公眾的傳統。

But traditionally you let a president elects transition team into the Cabinet agencies to start understanding way federal programs that no one really talks about our seas much about.

但傳統上，你讓一個總統選舉的過渡團隊進入內閣機構，開始瞭解方式的聯邦計劃，沒有人真正談論我們的海洋多。

But, you know, I don't think any of that will happen.

但是，你知道，我不認為這一切會發生。

I think I think Biden's greatest sort of political, um Hurdle, was that he didn't really thrill that.

我想我認為拜登最大的政治，嗯，障礙，是他沒有真正的刺激，。

The newly energized kind of progressive base kind of the the AOC wing of the party but his greatest govern.

黨的AOC翼的新活力種進步基種但他最大的治理。

Those things make him the strongest person to commit and govern after trial because having been there for so long and having, um, you know, he's got decades in the Senate where he was sync up policy wise with John McCain and Ted Kennedy.

這些事情讓他成為審判後最強的人，因為在那裡呆了這麼久，而且，嗯，你知道，他在參議院呆了幾十年，在那裡他與約翰-麥凱恩和特德-肯尼迪的政策是同步的。

So he knows kind of all sides of these debates, and the things that may have weakened him in a Democratic primary would probably strengthen him in a transition to power.

所以，他對這些辯論的方方面面都瞭如指掌，那些在民主黨初選中可能會削弱他的東西，很可能會在權力過渡中加強他。

After just such a bizarre, a bizarre presidency, that of Donald Trump.

就在唐納德-特朗普這樣一個詭異的、奇異的總統任期之後。

Maybe by the time this airs they would have called Pennsylvania.

也許到了這個播出的時候，他們會給賓夕法尼亞州打電話。

The latest I heard was that be in this again is sort of the good news and the bad news, because these air so decentralized and you've got these local local government folks doing it.

最近我聽到的消息是，這又是一個好消息和壞消息，因為這些空氣如此分散，你已經得到了這些地方地方政府的人做。

You really can't, you know, rush the raspberry.

你真的不能，你知道的，急著吃樹莓。

It'll be right when it's ready, they'll be done counting when they're done counting.

準備好了就可以了，他們算完了就可以了。

And so, as you have never heard anyone say, rush the raspberry.

所以，你從來沒有聽人說過，急急忙忙地把樹莓。

You know, when you when you want to eat the raspberries off the books, I get it.

你知道，當你... ...當你想吃書上的樹莓時，我明白了。

Now I get it that I've been around the block a long time and I've never heard anyone, but I love it.

現在我明白了，我已經在這個街區呆了很久，我從來沒有聽說過任何人，但我喜歡它。

I'm gonna start my people a card to Yeah, we're not gonna rush the raspberry c e.

我要給我的人發張卡，是的，我們不會急著給覆盆子C。

There will be no rushing the raspberry on my wife.

不會衝著我老婆的覆盆子去的。

You can't rush account And so it's very unsatisfying.

你不能急著開戶，所以很不滿意。

所以我想這就是為什麼你會看到這一切。

And I just say, When I worked on campaigns, I could barely read a poll so I could barely read exit poll data.

我只想說，當我在競選活動中工作時，我幾乎看不懂民調，所以我幾乎看不懂出口民調數據。

They would come to pollster, would walk in this wonderful guy named Matt Dowd.

他們會來到投票站，走進這個叫馬特-多德的好傢伙。

He's over on ABC now, and he'd say, I've got all the data and I can't even see numbers like Just tell me what we have to do.

他現在在美國廣播公司，他會說，我已經得到了所有的數據，我甚至不能看到這樣的數字，只要告訴我，我們必須做什麼。

Do we have to be nicer do we have to be calmer?

我們要不要好一點我們要不要冷靜一點？

對我來說，這一切都變得有點模糊。

But my understanding is that all the outstanding vote in Pennsylvania is acknowledged by both campaigns to be favorable to Joe Biden.

但我的理解是，賓夕法尼亞州所有的未選票都被兩場競選活動承認是對喬-拜登有利的。

Most likely, And that is why in Pennsylvania, the strategy is to stop the counting, whereas in Arizona, where some of the outstanding vote is expected to add to both candidates columns, the legal efforts are, too.

很有可能，這就是為什麼在賓夕法尼亞州，策略是停止計票，而在亞利桑那州，其中一些未完成的投票預計將增加到兩個候選人的列，法律努力，太。

I think keep the vote counting isn't that fascinating?

我覺得繼續計票是不是很吸引人？

And you know one of the things and and then well, I'll have to wrap it up.

你知道其中的一件事，然後好了，我得把它包起來。

But one of the things that boggles my mind is that so many, um, people are wondering, Why are some of these vote counts taking so long on its?

但其中一件事讓我很困惑的是，有那麼多，嗯，人們都在想，為什麼這些票數要花這麼長時間呢？

Because, especially if you look in Pennsylvania, it's Republican legislators that wanted it that way.

因為，尤其是在賓夕法尼亞州，是共和黨的議員們希望這樣做。

They wanted the count to take a long time.

Trump wanted it to take a long time because they knew that the write in votes three mail in votes.

特朗普希望這需要很長的時間，因為他們知道，寫票三郵票。

The drop off votes would heavily favor the Democrats, and they wanted those votes to come in late so that they could seem illegitimate.

落選票會對民主黨有很大的好處，他們希望這些選票來得晚一些，這樣就可以顯得不合法。

So it's It's theater, it's just it's the whole thing.

所以這是... ...這是戲劇，只是... ...這是整個事情。

The whole thing is playing out exactly as they wanted it to, right?

整個事情的發展完全是按照他們的意願來的，對吧？

There's no reason in this modern era, even with co vid that that we couldn't have had these results a lot earlier.

在這個現代化的時代，即使有了視頻，我們也沒有理由不早一點得到這些結果。

This was their design to corrupt our impression of the outcome.

這是他們設計的，目的是要敗壞我們對結果的印象。

That strategy, I think, that Donald Trump was ahead and what was really dark and what is really twisted is that instead of trying to compete and say, Oh, it's a pandemic A lot of Republican, especially Republican seniors they may wanna vote for me by mail to let me work on that program so that my mailing boat is just his robustas His It was just such a cynical play to say I'm not going to give my vote of the option.

這種策略，我認為，唐納德特朗普是領先的，什麼是真正的黑暗，什麼是真正的扭曲是，而不是試圖競爭和說，哦，這是一種流行病很多共和黨人，特別是共和黨的老年人，他們可能想通過郵件投票給我，讓我在這個項目上工作，所以我的郵寄船隻是他的 robustas他的這只是這樣一個玩世不恭的遊戲，說我不會給我的選擇權的投票。

They're going to stand there damn it in the middle of a pandemic that happens to be surging right now.

他們要站在那裡，該死的，在現在恰好湧動的流行病中。

And so they designed this and there is just incredible irony that that this will end up the fact that we know that a lot of this outstanding vote is for Biden is because Donald Trump didn't ever want it to be counted and included, right.

所以他們設計了這一點，而且有隻是令人難以置信的諷刺，這將最終我們知道很多這種傑出的投票是拜登的事實是因為唐納德-特朗普從來沒有想讓它被計算和包括，對吧。

And now they're saying What's very suspicious?

It's only being counted late because you wanted it to be counted late so you could do what you're doing now.

它之所以被算晚了，是因為你希望它被算晚了，這樣你就可以做你現在正在做的事情。

It's very frustrating, but I just choose to drink a lot.

這很令人沮喪，但我只是選擇喝很多酒。

Look at where we were four years ago, and, um and then we look at what we are probably on the cusp of right now.

看看我們四年前在哪裡，然後，嗯，然後我們看看我們可能在現在的邊緣。

I mean, my son's Halloween candy has been inhaled and consumed and metabolized by me is all gone.

我的意思是，我兒子的萬聖節糖果已經被我吸入並消耗、代謝殆盡了。

I mean, I feel because we're suspended, were paralyzed, you know, But I think e no Halloween.

我的意思是，我覺得因為我們被停職了， 癱瘓了，你知道的，但我認為我們沒有萬聖節。

I just put a giant bowl of 10 mg Klonopin out, and I gave them to everybody and everybody on my Street is feeling People kept coming back, kept coming back masks, no masks falling asleep on my lawn.

我只是把一個巨大的碗10毫克克諾平了，我給他們每個人，每個人都在我的街的感覺 人們不斷回來，不斷回來的面具，沒有面具睡著了我的草坪上。