Well, I think Butler obviously is the primary matchup.

好吧，我想巴特勒顯然是主要的對手。

And then I think the good thing about Miami in trying to limit James as much as possible is they have Jimmy Butler.

然後我覺得邁阿密儘量限制詹姆斯的好處是他們有吉米-巴特勒。

Jae Crowder has the strength to play him.

傑-克勞德有實力打他。

And then Iguodala, who played him a lot when he was in Golden State against Cleveland.

然後是伊戈達拉，他在金州對陣克利夫蘭的時候，經常和他對陣。

So they have a third guy.

所以他們有第三個人。

Um, obviously, LeBron poses all these issues, but I think the bigger issue is how they match up with Anthony Davis, where they don't really seem to have a great matchup, particularly when Ella stays big and can they rebound with, um because L.

嗯，很明顯，勒布朗提出了所有這些問題，但我認為更大的問題是他們如何與安東尼-戴維斯匹配，在那裡他們似乎並沒有一個很好的匹配，特別是當Ella保持大，他們可以與，嗯，因為L反彈。

A is so big, so powerful, Um, all over the court.

A是如此之大，如此之強，嗯，全場。

Whereas, you know Miami, they start basically four Smalls, uh, and an undersized center.

而邁阿密，他們基本上是由4個斯莫爾和一個小個子中鋒開始的。

But that undersized center is bam out of bio, and he has sort of taken the world by storm.

但那個身材不高的中鋒是咣咣的生物出來的，他也算是風靡全球了。

Jeff, what can he do?

傑夫，他能做什麼？

What is he in this Siri's against Anthony Davis?

他在這個Siri對安東尼-戴維斯的?

Well, I'm interested.

好吧，我很感興趣。

Will they match him up with Anthony Davis to start the game?

他們會讓他和安東尼-戴維斯搭配首發嗎？

Or will that go to Jae Crowder and try to keep out of bio out of foul trouble, playing against the bigger, more physical.

還是會去找傑克勞德，儘量不讓生物出現犯規麻煩，對陣體型更大，身體更強壯的人。

You know Dwight Howard, but I think he's obviously gonna have toe play exceptionally well, like he did in the Eastern Conference finals.

你知道德懷特-霍華德，但我認為他顯然要打得特別好，就像他在東部決賽中那樣。

He's gonna have to do it.

他必須這麼做

Um uh, come up huge on the backboard because they are an undersized team and he's gonna have to play huge minutes for him.

嗯嗯，在背板上來了巨大的，因為他們是一個規模不足的球隊，他會必須為他打巨大的分鐘。

And so there's a lot on his plate and on his shoulders, and he's going to continue tohave to be a dominant force and a hub on the offensive end as well.

所以在他的盤子裡和肩膀上有很多東西，他要繼續要成為一個主導力量和進攻端的樞紐。

Greeny and Jeff Van Gundy, with me here from the Bubble Game one of the Finals tonight on ABC, I asked the question to jail in this way this morning on, Get up.

格林和傑夫-范甘迪，和我一起在今晚ABC電視臺的總決賽第一場泡泡賽上，我在今天早上的《起來》節目中以這種方式向監獄提出了問題。

I expect the Lakers to win.

我預計湖人隊會贏。

Jalen expects the Lakers to win, but if a week and a half from now, Jeff, you're back here with me and we're talking about the Heat winning the Siri's winning the championship, what will it have been?

杰倫期待湖人贏球，但如果一週半後，傑夫，你回到這裡和我一起，我們在討論熱火隊贏球，爵士隊奪冠，那會是什麼情況？

What will they have done, in your view that will have allowed them to pull off what I think most people would consider to be a huge upset.

在你看來，他們會做什麼，會讓他們完成我認為大多數人都會認為是巨大的失敗。

Well, I think it starts with their mentality, right.

嗯，我想這要從他們的心態說起，對吧。

I don't look at it like it would be a huge upset on.

我不看它像會是一個巨大的不高興上。

I would suspect Miami thinks they're every bit as good as Elway.

我懷疑邁阿密認為他們每一個人都和艾爾維一樣優秀。

That's how they have to think like this is a pick him.

他們就是要這樣想，這才是選他。

Siri's.

Siri的。

That's number one, I think to They're gonna have to limit their turnovers because L.

這是第一，我想他們必須限制他們的失誤，因為L。

A.

A.

Is devastating in transition in half court, though, their guard herbal.

是在半場的過渡中破壞性的，雖然，他們的防守嶍。

And I think if Miami can keep it into the half court and not ignite their transition with turnovers, uh, that'll be, Ah, huge factor for him, I think.

我想如果邁阿密能把它保持到半場，而不是用失誤來點燃他們的過渡，呃，這將是，啊，巨大的因素，他，我想。

Third, they're gonna have Thio get that balanced scoring.

第三，他們要讓蒂奧得到均衡的得分。

They can't just go toe one or two guys.

他們不能只去找一兩個人。

They have to play high energy offensive game with a lot of movement and a bunch of different threats on the court.

他們必須打出高能量的進攻比賽，有大量的運動和一堆不同的威脅在球場上。

In anyone game, someone can hurt you.

在任何人的遊戲中，都可能有人傷害你。

And then I think finally, we'd have to say if they were to win it, Man, I can't believe they rebounded so well against L.

然後我想最後，我們不得不說，如果他們要贏的話，曼，我不敢相信他們對L的反彈如此之好。

A.

A.

Because L.

因為L。

A have dominated the glass, particularly against smaller teams like Miami.

A在玻璃上佔據了優勢，尤其是對邁阿密這樣的小球隊。

I think those four factors, you know, they've got to get, you know, three of those four toe.

我覺得這四個因素，你知道，他們必須得到，你知道，這四個腳趾中的三個。

Win it.

贏得它。

Jeff Van Gundy is with me here with excellent insight into a ah syriza and a a Siris of chess matches.

傑夫-范甘迪在這裡和我一起出色地洞察到了一個啊syriza和一個Siris的國際象棋比賽。

That will be fascinating.

這將是迷人的。

One of the good things that I think has come from these last six or eight weeks.

我認為過去六到八週的好事情之一。

Jeff, is Erik Spoelstra getting recognized for being a great coach, which I'm sure you already knew.

傑夫，埃裡克-斯波爾斯特拉是否因為是個偉大的教練而得到認可，我相信你已經知道了。

But I think most people, when they look back on the run that the heat had when LeBron was there, LeBron gets all of the credit.

但我想，大多數人，當他們回想熱火在勒布朗在的時候，熱火的運行，勒布朗得到了所有的功勞。

And wherever he goes, the coach tends to get comparatively little.

而無論他走到哪裡，教練往往都會得到比較少的幫助。

I think the world is seeing Erik Spoelstra for being a great coach right now.

我覺得現在全世界都看到了埃裡克-斯波爾斯特拉是一個偉大的教練。

What specifically would you say?

你具體想說什麼？

He has done so well to get his team here?

他做得這麼好，能讓他的團隊來到這裡？

Well, I think in general it's the steadiness of his leadership.

好吧，我想總的來說是他的領導力的穩定。

And you know these before this season, Mike, over the past five years since the James left, they missed the playoffs three of the five years, right?

而在本賽季之前，你也知道這些，邁克，自從詹姆斯離開之後，在過去的五年裡，他們有三年錯過了季後賽，對吧？

And and yet, no matter what type of iteration the heat we're putting out that year, he just coached.

然而，不管我們當年的熱度是什麼樣的迭代，他只是執教。

He led, and he gave them their best.

他帶領著，他給了他們最好的。

Chance is toe win, and I think the thing I admire about Eric is he combines, as does Frank Vogel and Brad Stevens and a lot of these coaches, great expertise with supreme humility.

機會就是勝利，我想我欣賞埃裡克的地方是他結合了，就像弗蘭克-沃格爾和布拉德-史蒂文斯以及很多這些教練一樣，偉大的專業知識與極度的謙遜。

That's hard to do.

這是很難做到的。

And as far as James getting a lot of the credit, I find it interesting that no matter who coaches LeBron James, they get very little credit.

而至於詹姆斯的功勞很大，我覺得很有意思，不管是誰執教勒布朗-詹姆斯，他們的功勞都很少。

But the guy that LeBron James is often compared to Michael Jordan, his coach, Phil Jackson, got a ton of credit, and I wonder why it is that we try to diminish the coaching of, like a great player like LeBron James when, heck, there's never been a great coach who hasn't coach great players.

但是，勒布朗-詹姆斯這個傢伙經常被比作邁克爾-喬丹，他的教練菲爾-傑克遜，得到了大量的榮譽，我想知道為什麼我們試圖貶低，像勒布朗-詹姆斯這樣的偉大球員的教練，當，他，從來沒有一個偉大的教練沒有指導過偉大的球員。

That's how you become a great coach.

這就是你如何成為一個偉大的教練。

And so with Spoelstra, I've always thought because he's so humble and he deflects all credit, Uh, Thio, the people above him, to the players, to his assistant coaches that somehow we've fallen for that and instead of giving him or credit, we've given everybody else credit except for him.

所以對於斯波爾斯特拉，我一直認為，因為他太謙虛了，他把所有的功勞都轉移了，呃，Thio，他上面的人，球員，他的助理教練，不知何故，我們已經上當了，而不是給他功勞，我們已經給了其他人功勞，除了他。

Maybe you've answered your own question.

也許你已經回答了自己的問題。

If there's I love Phil Jackson, I covered him for years.

如果有的話，我愛菲爾-傑克遜，我覆蓋了他多年。

But if there's one thing, no one would accuse him of being its humble and so so I think, Andi, I think he'd be the first person to acknowledge that.

但如果有一件事，沒有人會指責他的謙虛，所以我想，安迪，我想他會是第一個承認這一點的人。

So maybe that's the biggest difference between the two of them.

所以，也許這就是他們兩個人最大的區別。

Again.

再來一次

The Heat and the Lakers.

熱隊和湖人隊。

Game one of the Finals tonight.

今晚的總決賽第一場。

Nine.

九

Eastern on ABC.

東部的ABC電視臺。

Jeff Van Gundy and company with the call.

傑夫-范甘迪和公司的電話。

Thank you, Jeff.

謝謝你，傑夫

Enjoy.

好好享受吧

Tonight we'll all be watching.

今晚我們都要看。

Thank you for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。

Subscribe to ESPN, plus.

訂閱ESPN，加。