Um, hope you Well, um, how much have you allowed yourself to get excited about A Siri's against the Celtics.

嗯，希望你 嗯，嗯，你讓自己對A Siri對凱爾特人的比賽有多興奮。

You guys have been kind of banging heads now, pretty much your whole career, But to meet them in this kind of context, uh, what comes to mind?

你們一直都在打交道，幾乎是你們整個職業生涯的一部分，但在這種情況下見到他們，呃，你想到了什麼？

Yeah.

是啊。

I mean, I was pretty excited.

我的意思是，我很興奮。

Um, and then we all had the watch.

嗯，然後我們都有手錶。

Uh, Jacob Blake gets shot yesterday.

Jacob Blake昨天被槍殺了

So that kind of changes the tone of things and puts things in perspective.

所以，這也算是改變了事情的基調，把事情看清楚了。

So that's really kind of all that's been on my mind and, you know, coming down here making a choice to play.

所以，這真的是一種所有的一直在我的腦海裡，你知道，來到這裡做出選擇打。

Um, you know, we're supposed to not be in vain, but it's just starting to feel like everything we're doing is is just going through the motions, and nothing is really changing.

嗯，你知道，我們應該不是徒勞無功的， 但它只是開始感覺像一切 我們正在做的是隻是通過運動， 並沒有什麼是真正的改變。

And here we are again with another unfortunate incident.

在這裡，我們又遇到了另一個不幸的事件。

So my thoughts today are with that man and his family and trying to just put my mind wrap my mind around what they're going through today.

所以，我今天的想法是與那個男人和他的家人，並試圖只是把我的心包裹我的腦海裡，他們今天經歷了什麼。

Read, uh, when you Where were you when you saw the video?

Read, uh, when you Where were you when you saw the video? 你看視頻的時候，你在哪裡？

And like, how do you try to make sense of it?

你又是怎麼想明白的呢？

Um, I don't know how I would like to ask you.

嗯，我不知道我想怎麼問你。

What do you think about it?

你怎麼看？

Like what?

像什麼？

How do you make sense of it?

你是怎麼理解的？

Uh um I think that those interactions are the product of a lot of they pyramid of things that those interactions express.

呃嗯，我覺得這些互動是很多他們金字塔的產物，這些互動表達的東西。

Um, that are unavoidably factual.

嗯，這都是不可避免的事實。

On Ben, some of the moments, I kind of at the same time wonder if there's, you know, the, you know, I feel for everyone involved.

在本上，有些時刻，我有點同時想知道，如果有，你知道，你知道，我覺得每個人都參與。

That's about all I can say.

我只能說這麼多了

Yeah, No, I'm with you.

是啊，不，我和你一樣。

I just, uh at some point, like we're the ones always with the microphones in our face were the ones always who have to make a stand.

我只是，呃，在某些時候，就像我們是那些 總是與麥克風在我們的臉上 總是那些誰必須做出一個立場。

But like in the car, you know, we're the oppressed ones, and the responsibility falls on us to make a change to stop being a press.

但就像在車上一樣，你知道，我們是被壓迫者，責任落在我們身上，我們要做出改變，不要再做媒體。

You know what I'm saying?

你知道我在說什麼嗎？

Like that's that's what it boils down to.

就像這就是它的歸根結底。

That's my point.

這就是我的觀點。

And I ask you a question, like at what point does it way not have to speak about it anymore?

我問你一個問題，比如在什麼時候，它的方式不必再講了？

Like, are we gonna hold everybody accountable or we're just gonna put the spotlight on black people or black athletes or entertainers and It's like, What are you doing?

就像，我們是要讓每個人都負責任，還是要把焦點放在黑人、黑人運動員或藝人身上，就像，你在做什麼？

What are you contributing to your community?

你對你的社區有什麼貢獻？

What do you put it on the line and then us to We got to take responsibility as well.

你把它放在線上，然後我們要我們也要承擔責任。

Like what are we willing to give up that we actually give about what's going on?

比如說我們願意放棄什麼，我們真正的付出是關於什麼的？

Or does it is it just quota where you know black lives matter on on the backdrop or wear a T shirt like, what does that really mean?

或者它只是配額，你知道黑人的生命重要的背景上或穿T桖一樣，什麼是真正的意思？

Is it really doing anything?

它真的有什麼作用嗎？

So, um, I don't have the answers for you today, but I just I think we're all, uh I'll speak for myself.

所以，嗯，我今天沒有答案給你，但我只是... ...我想我們都是，呃，我會為自己說話。

I'm in a different place today, you know, Um, just mostly speaking mhm, Fred, Um when I mean you guys, you're attuned to these issues you grew up in.

我今天在不同的地方，你知道，嗯，主要是說嗯，弗雷德，嗯我的意思是你們，你們對這些你們成長的問題很適應。

Ah, in a town.

啊，在一個小鎮上。

You know, I think your food pretty familiar with that part of the world.

你知道，我認為你的食物相當熟悉世界的那一部分。

Some of things that go down and some in the Midwest, I guess, would be the way to put it.

有些事情，在中西部地區的一些事情，我想，應該是這樣說的。

Um, when you guys entered into this bubble, how did you weigh the potential of visibility, which I think has been very high on this issue and I think there's been an effort.

嗯，當你們進入這個保麗龍的時候，你們是怎麼權衡知名度的潛力的，我覺得在這個問題上已經非常高了，我覺得一直在努力。

I can speak for Toronto media.

我可以代表多倫多媒體發言。

I think there's been an effort to kind of amplify a lot of your concerns, Um, versus the fact that the change is inevitably going to be incremental, right?

我覺得一直在努力放大很多你的擔憂， 嗯，與事實相比，變化是不可避免的 將是漸進的，對不對？

Like I mean I mean, there's no way that you could go into Orlando and think that a knish you like this wouldn't arise again that the math just doesn't work that way.

就像我的意思是，我的意思是，有沒有辦法，你可以進入奧蘭多，並認為，一個knish你這樣的不會再次出現，數學只是不工作的方式。

So how do you make peace with that?

那麼，你是如何做到心平氣和的呢？

How do you get your mind around it?

如何讓自己的心態變好？

I know it's a It's a tough question.

我知道這是個很難回答的問題。

Yeah, I mean, that's the point.

是的，我的意思是，這是一點。

Like we knew, you know, coming here or not coming here wasn't going to stop anything.

就像我們知道，你知道，來這裡或不來這裡 是不會停止任何事情。

But I think ultimately, ultimately, like playing or not playing puts pressure on somebody.

但我認為最終，最終，喜歡玩或不玩會給某人帶來壓力。

So, for example, just happening in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

所以，舉例來說，剛剛發生在威斯康星州基諾沙的。

If I'm, um you know, would it be nice if if in a perfect world we all say we're not playing and the owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, you know that's gonna trickle down if he steps up to the plate and puts pressure on, you know, District Attorney's Office and States attorneys and governors and politicians there toe to make real change and get some justice.

如果我，嗯，你知道，這將是很好的，如果如果在一個完美的世界，我們都說我們不玩，密爾沃基雄鹿隊的老闆，你知道，這是要去涓涓細流，如果他站出來的板塊，並施加壓力，你知道，地區檢察官辦公室和州檢察官和州長和政治家那裡的腳趾做出真正的改變，並得到一些正義。

Like I know it's not that simple.

就像我知道這不是那麼簡單。

But at the end of the day, if we're gonna be sit here and talk about making change, then you know at some point we're gonna have to put our nuts on the line and and actually, you know, put something up to lose rather than just money or visibility.

但在一天結束的時候，如果我們要坐在這裡 並談論作出改變， 那麼你知道在某些時候，我們要去有 把我們的堅果在線路上，實際上，你知道， 把一些東西失去而不僅僅是金錢或知名度。

Like I'm just over the media aspect of sensationalized.

就像我只是過了媒體方面的煽情。

You know, we talk about it every day.

你知道，我們每天都在談論它。

That's always see, but it just feels like a big, passive fire at this point to me.

那是總能看到的，但此時我感覺就是一個大火，被動的火。

I just ask what more I know.

我只是問我還知道什麼？

There's a lot of people online here.

這裡有很多人在線。

Has there been any conversation within your team or amongst players there about a potential boycott?

你的球隊內部或球員之間是否有任何關於潛在抵制的對話？

Have games?

有遊戲嗎？

Way had a meeting this morning?

偉今早開了個會？

Number of things are being discussed, so I'll keep that between our team.

很多事情都在討論中，所以我會在我們團隊之間進行討論。

But, um, you know, we're dealing with it in real time, and I think it affects everybody differently.

但是，嗯，你知道，我們正在處理它在實時， 我認為它影響每個人不同。

And, um, it was pretty fresh on my mind, and I'm sitting in front of a camera.

而且，嗯，這是很新鮮的在我的腦海裡， 我坐在一個攝像頭前。

So I'm just speaking as I'm going, but, you know, yeah, there's there's a lot of different things being discussed.

所以我只是邊走邊說，但是，你知道，是的，有很多不同的事情被討論。

Thank you, Fred.

謝謝你，弗雷德。

To go next to Steve Simmons from the Toronto Sun.

要去旁邊的多倫多太陽報的史蒂夫-西蒙斯。

Okay, Fred, from a personal point of view, you have a huge playoff series coming up.

好吧，弗雷德，從個人的角度來看，你有一個巨大的季後賽系列即將到來。

From a personal point of view, you have free agency coming up, and yet the world around you is happening.

從個人角度來看，你即將迎來自由身，然而你身邊的世界卻在發生。

Unfortunately, the way the world around you is happening.

不幸的是，你周圍的世界正在發生。

How do you look at your own personal situations and then see the disgusting elements of the last 24 hours and and try and make sense of all of it?

你如何看待你自己的個人情況，然後看到過去24小時的噁心元素，並試圖讓所有這些都有意義？

You can't really make sense of it.

你無法真正理解它。

I mean, you can, but you know, it's not.

我的意思是，你可以，但你知道，這不是。

It's not the most logical thing in the world, you know, for people to be killed because of their skin color, like that's not It just doesn't make sense.

這不是最合乎邏輯的事情 在世界上，你知道， 對於人們被殺害 因為他們的膚色， 像這不是 它只是沒有意義。

So situation itself.

所以情況本身。

I mean, I don't it's Ah, it's tough a little bit, you know, you get a little survivor's remorse, you feel a little guilty.

我的意思是，我不... ...這是艱難的一點點， 你知道，你得到一個小倖存者的悔恨， 你覺得有點內疚。

Um, that's just natural, you know, as someone who lives a very privileged and blessed life.

嗯，這只是自然的，你知道， 作為一個人誰住 一個非常特權和祝福的生活。

Obviously, I work to be here.

很明顯，我工作是為了來這裡。

Don't get me wrong, but, um because I make millions of dollars doesn't make me any more worth of a person than someone else.

不要誤會我的意思，但是，嗯，因為我賺了幾百萬美元，並不代表我比別人更有價值。

So, um, you just you feel guilty sometimes on DATs normal.

所以，嗯，你只是... ...你感到內疚有時在DATs正常。

Um, and you try to use your platform and you reach your resource Is that contribute to other people's lives and making their lives better?

嗯，你試著用你的平臺，你達到你的資源是貢獻給其他人的生活，讓他們的生活更好？

And you know, that's about Aziz, much as you can dio in the moment.

你知道，這是關於Aziz的事，你可以在當下多說幾句。

And so what are your thoughts on the Celtics?

那麼你對凱爾特人隊有什麼看法呢？

Siri's coming up as Bigas.

Siri作為Bigas來了。

It is to you and your team and your personal situation.

這是對你和你的團隊以及你的個人情況。

I don't really care about that right now.

我現在並不關心這個。

To be honest with you, I'm sure you know Thursday comes and it's time to play.

說實話，我相信你一定知道週四到了，該玩了。

I'll be able to lock in basket waas.

我就可以鎖定在籃瓦斯。

Not really that hard for me.

對我來說並不難。

Eso um to be honest with you, I haven't, you know, thought much about it.

Eso 嗯... ...老實說，我還沒有，你知道， 想過很多關於它。

I know that that's unbelievably talented team, and they're a great team.

我知道，那是一支無比優秀的隊伍，他們是一支偉大的隊伍。

And I think the fans have been looking forward to this, you know, for a long time.

我想球迷們已經期待了很久了，你知道的。

So once we get to that point, if we get to that point, then um you know we'll deal with that when it comes.

所以一旦我們到了那個點，如果我們到了那個點，那麼嗯，你知道我們會處理，當它來了。

But right now, today, on Tuesday, I could care less good.

但現在，今天，星期二，我可以不在乎好。

Two more questions for you, Fred.

再問你兩個問題，弗雷德。

First one is going to Stephen Long from SportsNet Hey, Fred, George Hill.

第一個是體育網的斯蒂芬-朗 嘿，弗雷德，喬治-希爾。

Like yesterday in a press conference, uh, said like it's kind of a mistake to to be to be here now, like in light of everything that's like of the events with Jacob Blake.

就像昨天在新聞發佈會上，呃，說像它是一種錯誤的 要在這裡現在，喜歡的一切，就像與雅各布布雷克的事件。

Eso If you want to know your thoughts like in hindsight now, do you feel like you want?

埃索如果你想知道你的想法，比如現在回想起來，你覺得你想嗎？

But do you feel like it was It was a good idea Thio to go ahead with the resumption of the season, and that's what that man said.

但你覺得是這樣嗎？"蒂奧繼續復出，那人是這麼說的。

I didn't say that.

我可沒這麼說

So I'm not gonna speaking with somebody else, said.

所以我不會和別人說話，說。

I didn't see the interview.

我沒有看到採訪。

I don't know the full context of what he said.

我不知道他說的全部背景。

Eso no, I appreciate your question, but I'm not going to comment on what that man said.

埃索不，我很欣賞你的問題，但我不打算評論那個人說的話。

Uh, we made the decision to come here, and I'm here and I don't really live with regret.

呃，我們做了決定來這裡，我在這裡，我真的不後悔生活。