Bring him on all at once.

馬上帶他上場。

Alex Settlement, who has an album out, called until now.

Alex Settlement，他出了一張專輯，叫《直到現在》。

Very funny.

非常有趣

Comedian Jack Night, who you know from Big Mouth and ah, comedian that means the most to me has been a huge influence of my career.

喜劇演員傑克夜，你從大嘴那裡知道的，啊，對我來說意義最大的喜劇演員，對我的事業影響巨大。

She's got an audible special out countless specials on Netflix Maria Bamford.

她在Netflix上出了無數的特別節目瑪麗亞-巴姆福德。

So welcome, everyone to the show.

所以歡迎大家來參加節目。

Jack, Maria and Alex.

傑克，瑪麗亞和亞歷克斯。

Oh, my God, Alex, do you have ah, room?

哦，我的上帝，亞歷克斯，你有啊，房間？

It's less echo we that we loved your CNN background.

這是少呼應我們，我們愛你的CNN背景。

Theo Audio is a little like right Jewish specialists.

西奧音響有點像權利猶太專家。

Oh, that's worse.

哦，那更糟糕。

Now go back.

現在回去吧

Go back to your CNN room.

回你的CNN房間去吧

That the worst.

這是最糟糕的。

You just go in the closet.

你就去衣櫃裡。

That toilet looks like you were on the toilet.

那個馬桶看起來像你在馬桶上。

I'm not on the toilet.

我不是在廁所裡。

This is my just by my I don't know what to Dio.

這是我的只是由我的我不知道什麼迪奧。

I just want to see your place is super cute though it is very clean lines.

我只想看看你的地方雖然是很簡潔的線條，但超級可愛。

Nice word is comedy market is play is paying.

好詞好句是喜劇市場是戲是錢。

Incredibly.

不可思議的。

Where's multiple rooms?

多人房呢？

You living in England?

你住在英國？

No, no.

不，不。

I live in Silver Lake.

我住在銀湖。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

I was gonna say somebody said something about How are you?

我本來想說有人說你怎麼樣？

Spends a lot of time in the British comedy community.

在英國喜劇界花了很多時間。

It's good pays well, it really did, because American comics like Maria Bamford started doing well at places like Melbourne Comedy Festival, and I thought maybe there was an opportunity there on Dwell on.

這是很好的報酬，它真的做到了，因為像瑪麗亞-班福德這樣的美國喜劇演員開始在墨爾本喜劇節這樣的地方做得很好，我想也許在Dwell on上有一個機會。

They also review comedy like It's something you put more than 10 minutes of thought into because I disagree with I liked it better when we were a great listed right between karaoke and strip clubs.

他們還評論喜劇，就像這是你投入超過10分鐘思考的東西，因為我不同意我更喜歡它，當我們是一個偉大的上市就在卡拉OK和脫衣舞俱樂部之間。

Yeah, I don't have a nuanced thio us.

是啊，我沒有一個細微的我們。

Just leave it.

別管它了。

We're supposed to be Don't bring.

我們應該是不要帶。

Yeah, like that's what made everything fucks like We aren't Maria has a review ever poisoned the way you view your act, Like someone given you a much of a a fluffy interview or or yeah, like like put a point of view on you like what she's saying is really about the seals.

是啊，就像這是什麼讓一切他媽的像我們不是瑪麗亞有一個審查曾經毒害的方式，你認為你的行為，就像有人給你一個多的一個蓬鬆的採訪，或者是啊，就像把你的觀點，就像她說的是真的關於密封。

Oh, well, I think it's just wanna you just feel bad, like a like a three star review where you go, I shouldn't even exist like I wanna be it the half star.

哦，好吧，我認為這只是想 你只是覺得不好，像一個像三星級的評論 你去，我甚至不應該存在 像我想成為它的半星。

I wanna be one star we're and at least providing inspiration for people who?

我想成為一個明星，我們和至少提供靈感的人誰？

Yeah, and do anything or, you know you want to be doing very well.

是的，做任何事情，或者，你知道你想做的很好。

But, um, yeah, so I've gotten a couple of three straight years.

但是，嗯，是的，所以我已經得到了幾個連續三年。

Must have been very sad, right?

一定很傷心吧？

It is right, I guess I mean a positive review where it's something that you just thought was fun.

沒錯，我想我指的是正面評價，就是你覺得好玩的東西。

And, um And then someone puts this extra meaning on it, but says she's actually talking about inequality and poverty with women, the banks, Your I didn't mean any of that.

然後，嗯，然後有人把這個額外的含義就可以了， 但說她實際上是在談論不平等和貧困 婦女，銀行，你的我沒有任何意思。

Well, and I think that's what critique is about is Thio make it not as funny eyes.

好吧，我想這就是批判是什麼Thio使它不一樣有趣的眼睛。

The purpose of the absolute side effect of the only thing you can get from reviewing comedy outside of is the joke, funny or not, is there nuance and the joke?

評論喜劇之外，唯一能得到的絕對副作用就是笑話，好笑不好笑，有沒有細微的差別和笑話，目的是什麼？

And I think we all share the same thought with our favorite comedians.

而我想，我們都和自己喜歡的喜劇演員有著同樣的想法。

There usually is not, And so it's a person looking for something deeper in a place that doesn't need to be that deep.

通常沒有，所以這是一個人在一個不需要那麼深的地方尋找更深的東西。

And even if it is or it isn't, it shouldn't value the comedy less or more like I remember I got 3.5 star at I'm drawing a blank on on the wonderful theater in London that everybody goes.

而且即使是或不是，也不應該像我記得我在倫敦精彩的劇院得到了3.5星，大家都去的時候，我畫上了一個空白的喜劇。

Thio was a great show, but they gave me a 3.5 and it was like he's up there fucking around and like, having fun and like, put us that we don't do that here.

Thio是一個偉大的演出，但他們給了我一個3.5，它就像他在那裡他媽的周圍，喜歡，有樂趣，喜歡，把我們，我們不這樣做，在這裡。

I'm like, Okay, that z fair.

我想，好吧，這Z公平。

But then I went on Twitter, and it was like this long thread from this black girl who's just like I want to go see Jack Night Show.

但後來我上了推特，它就像這個長長的線程 從這個黑人女孩誰只是喜歡我想去看看傑克夜秀。

I love American humor and that, like, they're both, they're both wrong.

我喜歡美國的幽默，而且，他們都是，他們都錯了。

It was phenomenal, but like right, but But it was I definitely sat with the thread more than I sat with the review.

這是現象級的，但像正確的，但它是我絕對坐在線程比我坐在評論。

What was your thesis when you said booty be like, Well, it all started at the ripe age of 16 and I want you to commit to this little conceit right now and actually take us from 16 to present day Jack.

當你說戰利品是這樣的時候，你的論文是什麼，嗯，這一切都開始在16歲的成熟年齡，我希望你能致力於這個小的自負，現在，實際上把我們從16歲到現在的傑克。

That's whatever it was it was.

那就是不管是什麼它是。

It was just drinking and trying to figure out what can I destroy it in front of me?

當時只是喝了酒，想知道在我面前能毀掉什麼？

But also like comics like comics, there are good critics and bad critics.

但也像相聲一樣，有好的評論家，也有壞的評論家。

Some critics I don't respect and some critics.

有些批評家我不尊重，有些批評家。

I really unlike, you know, film, geek, dot co dot NZ And some critics are like like really like a O Scott Are Pauline Kale like there are really good critics who do really good criticism and what I know.

我真的不喜歡，你知道，電影，怪胎，點點紐西蘭和一些批評家就像真的像一個O斯科特是寶蓮凱爾一樣，有真正的好批評家誰做真正的好責備和我所知道的。

My favorite reviewers were from Melbourne.

我最喜歡的評論家來自墨爾本。

Like when?

比如什麼時候？

When I did all stars like the way they broke down everybody else.

當我做了所有的明星喜歡他們分解其他人的方式。

Like I agree with all of this way.

就像我同意所有的這種方式。

I don't read reviews, but I pay my but my friend Adam read all the reviews, and he's like, Hey, every review is mentioning that you do this.

我不看評論，但我付我的... ...但我的朋友亞當讀了所有的評論， 他的樣子，嘿，每個評論都提到 你這樣做。

So do you want to keep doing that?

那你還想繼續做下去嗎？

And that is a really good thing.

而這是一件非常好的事情。

Toe have my problem when I do a lot of shows in a row, like for a month, is that whatever the best response I got, that's the That's what I'm gonna expect every show from then on.

我的問題是，當我連續做了很多場演出，比如一個月，不管我得到了什麼最好的迴應，這就是我以後每場演出的期望。

And if I don't do it, I'll just like tryingto be over something, trying to get it out of them.

如果我不這樣做，我就會喜歡嘗試著去克服一些東西，嘗試著讓他們離開。

So I always have toe.

所以我總是有腳趾。

Does that make sense?

這有意義嗎？

Yeah.

是啊。

Has any of you taken a negative review as like Oh, that's actually right, because it's also a giant grain of salt of like Well, you don't do this.

你們有沒有人把負面評價當成是哦，其實是對的，因為它也是一粒巨大的鹽，就像嗯，你不這樣做。

You know, you write about who you think is good, but you don't.

你知道，你寫的是你認為好的人，但你沒有。

Actually, you're not on stage.

其實，你不在臺上。

But if you're taking a negative review and then like I do do that thing, I do bail.

但如果你拿著一個負面的評價，然後像我一樣做那個事情，我就會保釋。

Early in 2015 Katt Williams said that I'm built silly and I need to use it s o e writing for culture E He was wearing two fur coats.

2015年初，凱特-威廉姆斯說，我的身材很傻，我需要用它s o e為文化寫作E他穿著兩件毛皮大衣。

The underneath one was purple, the top one was white and he was with two women who didn't want to be there.

下身的是紫色的，上身的是白色的，他和兩個女人不想在一起。

And he watched my whole set and then, like, went joke for joke and broke it down And what he liked and didn't like nothing of like interest.

他看了我的整場演出，然後，就像，去笑話的笑話，並打破了它，他喜歡和不喜歡 沒有什麼喜歡的興趣。

And then he stops, He goes, looks me up and down goes your belt silly you need to use Did you change your act and in terms of people tried to definitely like B'more animated When I deliver a joke in March when we're all allowed to do that.

然後他停了下來，他走了，看著我上下去你的腰帶愚蠢的你需要使用你改變你的行為和方面的人試圖肯定喜歡B'more動畫當我提供一個笑話在三月，當我們都被允許這樣做。

But e don't know why we're speaking like we're currently performing every night.

但我不知道為什麼我們說話像我們現在每天晚上都在表演。

But I don't know, I e I am.

但我不知道，我是。

I mean, you guys.

我的意思是，你們。

I'm back, sir.

我回來了，先生

I'm e I'm out there Super spreader events performing.

我是我，我是在外面的超級播種機活動表演。

Maria, you had a review that made you think different.

瑪麗亞，你的評論讓你有了不同的想法。

You know, these air amalgamation of several 1000 criticisms that I've had, um, most of them on YouTube saying I should kill myself.

你知道，這些空氣的混合體 幾千責備，我已經有，嗯，其中大部分在YouTube上說我應該自殺。

Surprisingly, how many times when I've already thought of it so many times myself.

竟然有多少次，而自己已經想了那麼多次。

But no, they said, uh, that I have, um that's not an insult when I I'm already thinking of it.

但沒有，他們說，呃，我有，嗯，這不是一種侮辱，當我我已經想到了它。

You know, on my voices sound the same.

你知道，我的聲音聽起來是一樣的。

Very true.

非常正確。

I only do about six voices.

我只做了大約六種聲音。

I totally agree to that.

我完全同意這一點。

And then, um, that I not political in terms of I will say something very passive aggressively, which is s o You're not totally clear where I stand.

然後，嗯，我不是政治方面的 我會說一些非常被動的侵略性，這是S O你不完全清楚我的立場。

If I Yeah, I don't actually say outright.

如果我是啊，其實我不會直接說。

Um, you know, Donald Trump is, you know, like, I won't say it.

嗯，你知道，唐納德-特朗普是，你知道，喜歡，我不會說出來。

I'll just Yeah, do a metaphorical thing.

我就 是啊，做一個比喻的事情。

Which is very true.

這是非常正確的。

Once I did a terrible show.

有一次，我做了一個可怕的節目。

Fresno, California, where I did not rehearse for the show.

加利福尼亞州的弗雷斯諾，在那裡我沒有為演出排練。

And as I've gotten older, I need to rehearse.

而且隨著年齡的增長，我需要排練。

Um, anyways didn't rehearse.

嗯，反正沒有排練。

I mumbled throughout the show.

我在節目中一直喃喃自語。

Not the greatest idea.

不是什麼好主意

I wrote the stuff.

我寫的東西。

You think I'd project it and I refunded everyone their money.

你以為我會推算，我把錢退給大家。

Um, and then some of those people gave that refunded ticket money toe a local mental health charity?

嗯，然後其中一些人把退票的錢給了當地的心理健康慈善機構？

You laughed unprompted.

你不經意地笑了。

Oh, my God.

哦，我的上帝。

Unprompted.

毫不客氣的說。

Yes.

是的，我知道

Where was this?

這是哪裡？

It was in Fresno.

是在弗雷斯諾

There's a big theater in Fresno.

弗雷斯諾有個大劇院。

Um, authority on mental health.

嗯，心理健康方面的權威。

Fresno, California.

加州，弗雷斯諾。

You know, the progressive thought leaders of Fresno?

你知道，弗雷斯諾的進步思想領袖？

That is insane.

這是瘋了。

But they were not wrong, but it was It was hilarious.

但他們並沒有錯，但這是它的熱鬧。

After the show, it was like, very, you know, people were fans saying, Oh, it's great, you know, great traction.

演出結束後，它就像，非常，你知道，人們是球迷說，哦，這是偉大的，你知道，偉大的牽引力。

But then there was, like, this big thing on Facebook.

但後來有一樣，這個大的事情在Facebook上。

Just people saying I really I was really just pointed.

只是人們說我真的我真的只是指。

And they were correct.

而他們是正確的。

I was defensive it first, and then I listened to it, and I was like, Oh, shit.

我先是防備它，然後我聽了它，我就想，哦，該死的。

Oh, I'm sorry.

哦，我很抱歉。

S o.

S o.

So sometimes I think criticism extremely helpful.

所以有時候我覺得責備極其有用。

Um Thio, go.

嗯Thio，走。

Wow.

哇哦

I I need to be honest that I need to rehearse before shows.

我我需要說實話，我需要在演出前排練。

Otherwise, uh, I might be mealy mouthed and confused on stage.

否則，呃，我可能會在舞臺上口乾舌燥，糊里糊塗。

That makes me feel better because I do the same thing.

這讓我感覺好多了，因為我也是這麼做的。

Like in the hotel.

就像在酒店裡。

People like Let's meet up before the show.

人們喜歡讓我們在演出前見面。

I run the entire hour out loud like a psycho in my hotel room where I need to talk because I'm just not good.

我像個神經病一樣，在我需要說話的酒店房間裡大聲地跑了整整一個小時，因為我實在是不擅長。

If I don't do it, I don't do that.

如果我不做，我就不做。

That's the wild to me that you but like it makes to me being prepared as I record every show.

這是對我來說，你的野生，但喜歡它使我準備，因為我記錄每一個節目。

And then I listened back the next morning.

第二天早上我又聽了一遍。

But before I go on stage, I try to have my mind be like I try to focus on the songs that are playing from the front of house playlists so that I don't so that because for me, selling a show like Set like trying to sell the material after I've done it a bunch of times, is its own unique challenge E feel like if I rehearse it, I'm gonna be like, Hey, how's everybody doing tonight?

但在我上臺之前，我試著讓自己的心思集中在前臺播放的歌曲上，這樣我就不會... ...因為對我來說，銷售像Set這樣的演出... ...就像在我做了很多遍之後還想賣掉這些材料，是它自己獨特的挑戰。

Fantastic.

妙不可言

Okay, so I was at the super, you know, like it's just going to come out to be excited about stuff you've been doing for a while.

好吧，所以我在超級，你知道的，就像它只是要出來是興奮的東西，你已經做了一段時間。

Yeah, and I don't perform probably.

是啊，我不執行可能。

I'm not performing as much as you dio, but you're also a a integral live performer and that the kind of laughs you get, I mean, the three of us.

我的表演沒有你迪奧多，但你也是一個不可或缺的現場表演者，你的那種笑聲，我是說，我們三個人。

We've all been in the back of the room when you're performing.

你表演的時候，我們都在後面的房間裡。

It's not the kind of laugh where it's like I recognize a joke happens.

這不是那種我認識到一個笑話發生的笑。

You're getting like deep, guttural laughs from something that you've committed so hard, Thio that there's no balance.

你得到的東西，你已經承諾這麼辛苦，Thio，沒有平衡，就像深沉的笑聲。

There's no like part of people laughing like she's really doing this for a group of adults.

沒有像一部分人笑得像她真的是為了一群成年人。

So I understand that and that you have to.

所以我明白，你必須這樣做。

If you're doing characters and you're really selling a performer and not just, here's the written joke.

如果你做的是人物，你真的是在賣弄表演者，而不僅僅是，這裡是書面笑話。

Next you have Thio warm up your voice, your whole instrument.

接下來你要讓Thio熱一下你的聲音，你的整個樂器。

Yeah, and and it's also I've gotten older and and also with the loss of ambition with age, I just don't generally don't care a smudge.

是啊，而且也是我年紀大了，而且也隨著年齡的增長而失去了雄心壯志，我就一般不在乎一抹。

So I have thio.

所以，我有Thio。

I have to do it over and over again, um, to to remind myself of what I wrote down, Um, and I'll do it for other people off Twitter to because I can't I can't even get myself to do it by myself in the hotel room.

我必須一遍又一遍地做，嗯，以提醒自己我寫下來的東西，嗯，我會做其他的人關閉Twitter，因為我不能我甚至不能讓自己做自己在酒店房間裡。

I have to get a fan to meet me at a good doughnuts parking lot and well, you tweet that.

我得讓粉絲在好的甜甜圈停車場等我，好吧，你發微博吧。

And sometimes want to be the person I'm not kidding.

有時候也想成為我不開玩笑的人。

Will be like, Hey, is anybody and I'm like, I'll go to Houston today.

將像，嘿，是任何人，我想， 我今天會去休斯頓。

I can spend an hour just hearing your jokes face to face You.

我可以花一個小時的時間只是聽你的笑話面對你。

You would do this before co vid you would rehearse for someone.

你會在為別人排練之前做這個。

I thought this just a couple thing No before co vid I for a couple of the last couple years.

我以為這只是一對情侶的事情沒有之前的co vid I為一對情侶的過去幾年。

I've just just because I need to rehearse and I don't have the willingness to do it by myself anymore.

我只是因為需要排練，我已經不願意再自己做了。

I have to get a witness.

我必須找一個證人。

And, uh and Twitter is beautiful.

而且，呃，還有推特很美。

You can get somebody to meet you at any time of day.

你可以在任何時間找人見你。

I just say I don't tell everyone where it is, but just the one personal pick.

我只是說我不告訴大家在哪裡，但只是個人的一個選擇。

And then it's always turned out to be super nice person.

然後總是變成了一個超級好的人。

Um, because they're afraid to because that person come to the show later or they're like my solid at Dunkin Donuts.

嗯，因為他們害怕，因為那個人 後來來的節目 或者他們像我的固體在Dunkin Donuts。

Yeah, exactly.

是的，沒錯。

Sometimes I'm like, Oh, my God.

有時我想，哦，我的上帝。

Why are you coming to the show tonight?

你為什麼要來參加今晚的演出？

You have already seen it, but yeah, I don't Yeah.

你已經看到了，但 是的，我沒有 是啊。

Three, only.

三，只。

I haven't had any bad experiences But I've also kind of done some like if somebody has, you know, we'll have some Hardly get fans who don't listen to any of your politics.

我沒有任何不好的經驗，但我也做了一些像 如果有人有，你知道，我們會有一些 很難得到球迷誰不聽任何你的政治。

And they're like, You're just fun.

他們就像，你只是好玩。

We love you from Target.

我們目標公司愛你

You know, you're so funny.

你知道嗎，你很有趣。

We saw just a billboard of you on the target.

我們看到的只是你在目標上的廣告牌。

What is her from 15 years ago.

15年前的她是什麼。

But then there's, like, wags and yeah, people talk about skull shapes.

但是，還有一樣，wags和是的，人們談論頭骨形狀。

Your Yikes.

你的Yikes。

I don't want to do well for you.

我不想為你做好事。

Yeah, so that z help me and I Yeah, I've been doing the zoom things where I do it what I want with people.

是啊，所以，Z幫助我和我 是啊，我一直在做變焦的事情，我做我想要的人。

Andi, I'll do it as a 6 ft distance to you know what?

安迪，我會做一個6英尺的距離，你知道嗎？

Outside.

外面的。