Name: 工黨與反猶主義。科爾賓被停職會否重燃黨內內戰？- BBC新聞之夜 (Labour and anti-Semitism: Will Corbyn’s suspension reignite the party’s civil war? - BBC Newsnight)
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Duration: 13 min 35 s

business like but never a meeting of minds.

像生意一樣，但絕不是心照不宣。

情態副詞

Never soulmates descendants off wholly different labor traditions on now, a potentially irreversible split after remove unseen in the post war period.

從來沒有知音後裔關完全不同的勞動傳統上，現在，一個潛在的不可逆的分裂後刪除未見在戰後時期。

過去完成式

The party suspending its previous leader who had challenged or perhaps mis read his successor on his response.

該黨暫停其前任領導人的職務，因為他曾對繼任者的迴應提出質疑，或許是誤讀。

This morning, the Equality and Human Rights Commission published their final report in tow.

今天上午，平等和人權委員會公佈了他們的最後報告。

Kier Starmer had issued a clear declaration at his response to the report.

基爾-斯塔默在對該報告的迴應中發表了明確的聲明。

No place in labor for anyone who thinks that anti Semitism is exaggerated or caused by factional fighting.

凡是認為反閃族主義被誇大或由派系鬥爭引起的人，在勞動中沒有立足之地。

On That was exactly what the former Labor leader appeared to say on his Facebook page before Secure had even got to his feet.

在Secure還沒有站起來之前，這正是這位前工黨領袖在他的Facebook頁面上出現的內容。

One anti Semite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media.

一個反閃米特的人太多了，但出於政治原因，我們的黨內外對手以及大部分媒體也極大地誇大了問題的規模。

Those remarks were enough to suspend Jeremy Corbyn on this afternoon, Kier Starmer reinforced his message of the day.

這些言論足以讓傑里米-科爾賓暫停今天下午，基爾-斯塔默加強了他今天的資訊。

I made it clear that we won't tolerate anti Semitism or the denial of anti Semitism through the suggestion that it's exaggerated or factional.

我說得很清楚，我們不會容忍反猶太主義，也不會容忍通過暗示反猶太主義被誇大或派別化來否認反猶太主義。

And that's why I was disappointed with Jeremy Corbyn's response.

這也是為什麼我對傑里米-科爾賓的迴應感到失望。

And that is why appropriate action has been taken, which I fully support.

這就是為什麼採取了適當的行動，我完全支持。

What are we doing is appealing to the party and those that have made this decision to kindly think again.

我們所做的是呼籲黨和那些做出這個決定的人再好好想想。

They're some of the polite er terms to describe a century off the Labor Party's history from political wing off the trade union movement, toe opposition in parliament to government on back again.

它們是描述工黨一個世紀以來從工會運動中的政治派別到議會中的反對派再到政府的歷史的一些禮貌用語。

But never before in the modern era has a new leadership taken the monumental risk of casting out its immediate predecessor, who still has a strong base of support in the party on Beyond.

但在現代社會中，新的領導層從來沒有冒著巨大的風險，將其直接的前任趕走，而後者在黨內仍有強大的支持基礎，在超越。

This is not a fight that Kier Starmer chose.

這不是基爾-斯塔默選擇的戰鬥。

But it is a fight he's prepared to take on to ensure that the words anti Semitism are never again mentioned in the same breath as his party.

但這是他準備進行的一場戰鬥，以確保反閃族主義這幾個字再也不會和他的政黨同聲同氣地被提及。

A Nikon IQ figure from the Blair era who fell foul of the Corbyn leadership on Brexit, believes the former labor leader made serious mistakes.

一位來自布萊爾時代的尼康智商人物在Brexit問題上落井下石，他認為這位前工黨領袖犯了嚴重的錯誤。

It wasn't exactly dismissive, but nor was he kind of accepting of the thrust of it.

這不完全是不屑一顧，但也不是一種接受的主旨。

And I think when you read the report, it's horrific.

我想當你讀到這份報告時，它是可怕的。

Actually, I first of all, watch the headlines on it.

And then I read it, and I'd say that one of those rare occasions where the real thing was worse than the way it was being presented by the media.

然後我讀了它，我想說的是，那些罕見的情況下，真實的事情是糟糕的比它的方式是由媒體介紹。

Um, and I think that therefore I think that I mean kids.

嗯，我認為，是以，我認為，我的意思是孩子。

He's clearly decided that there could be no conciliation with the issue on the terrible handling off it that there's Bean over the last few years.

他清楚地決定，不可能有調解與問題上的可怕處理關閉它，有豆在過去幾年。

A supporter of Jeremy Corbyn is dismayed.

傑里米-科爾賓的一名支持者感到沮喪。

I could hardly express the actual horror this on a personal basis on a much wider basis.

我很難在更廣泛的基礎上表達這對個人的實際恐怖。

The horror is there is Jeremy on anti racist Ah, very good man, A man with principles, a man who lead the Labor Party.

恐怖的是有傑里米對反種族主義啊，很好的人，一個有原則的人，一個上司工黨的人。

Some people would say, very wrongly, very poorly, people like me.

有人會說，很不對，很差，像我這樣的人。

It was the period when the Labor Party stood for the things I believe in most.

那是工黨代表我最相信的東西的時期。

I'm very worried for the Labor Party if somebody suspended when they board here defending their position and saying what they think was true about the anti Semitism campaign about how he conducted the uh, the process to eliminate anti Semitism to be suspended.

我很擔心工黨，如果有人被停職，當他們在這裡登機，捍衛他們的立場，並說他們認為是真實的反猶太主義運動，關於他如何進行呃，消除反猶太主義的過程被暫停。

For that, that's a form of internal dictatorship.

You know, not a man for sentimentality in the political arena, ruthlessness even towards a predecessor still revered by many.

你知道的，在政治舞臺上，不是一個講究情面的人，即使是對很多人仍然敬畏的前輩，也是無情的。

好了，尼克加入我們現在一個非常大的動作。

Bold move by Kier Starmer Well, Kier Starmer knows that a decision of historic proportions was made today.

基爾-斯塔默的大膽舉動 好吧，基爾-斯塔默知道，今天做出了一個具有歷史意義的決定。

Now friends are saying that the day didn't end as he thought the day would end.

現在朋友們都說，這一天並沒有像他想象的那樣結束。

And they're saying, Look, he is not a purge.

他們說，你看，他不是一個清洗。

He's a unified, but he's not a unified at any price.

他是統一的，但他不是不惜代價的統一。

And essentially, what they're saying is that the price is obviously going to be paid.

而本質上，他們說的是，代價顯然是要付出的。

And if you set a series of tests as he as he has done, you have got to meet them on what allies are saying allies, you care.

而如果你像他一樣設置了一系列的測試，你就得滿足他們對盟友說的盟友，你關心。

So I'm saying, Look, he was consulted on the suspension off Jeremy Corbyn from the party and the removal of the whip, but those decisions were made by the general secretary, David Evans, and the chief whip, Nick Brown.

所以我說，你看，他被徵求了意見 關於傑里米-科爾賓的黨內停職和取消黨鞭， 但這些決定是由總書記大衛-埃文斯和首席黨鞭尼克-布朗做出的。

Well, the Corbyn count had a big seminar tonight.

好吧，科爾賓伯爵今晚有一個大的研討會。

Milne was there on the atmosphere was not help.

米爾恩在那裡對氣氛是沒有幫助的。

When Jeremy Corbyn was told of his suspension by a cameraman who had gone toe record his response to the report, the cameraman saw it on Twitter and said, What do you think of this on Jeremy Corbyn said.

當傑里米-科爾賓被一個攝影師告知他被停職的消息時，他去記錄了他對報告的迴應，攝影師在Twitter上看到了，他說，你對傑里米-科爾賓說的這件事怎麼看。

In the Corbyn camp, They do not accept this explanation that Kier Starmer was at arm's length from the decision.

在Corbyn陣營中，他們不接受這種解釋，即Kier Starmer與決定保持距離。

They're saying this is the most consequential administrative decision made by the Labor Party in Mawr than 30 years on.

他們說這是工黨在毛爾做出的最有後果的行政決定，比來30年。

It has the potential to cause a very deep on serious split, but they are hoping for a reconciliation.

它有可能造成很深的嚴重分裂，但他們希望和解。

They are looking for common ground in three areas.

So the first one is Maybe there's a benign explanation of care.

所以第一種是也許有一個良性的解釋關懷。

Stormers Response to Jeremy Corbyn's remarks.

風暴者回應傑里米-科爾賓的言論。

Maybe they heard Jeremy Corbyn denying the existence of anti Semitism when in fact, what he was saying is, I'm really a really serious opponent of anti Semitism.

也許他們聽到了傑里米-科爾賓否認反猶太主義的存在，其實他說的是，我真的是一個非常嚴肅的反猶太主義的反對者。

But it's been exaggerated about how many people in the Labor Party have bean under investigation.

但一直誇大工黨有多少人被調查豆。

The second area of common ground is that Jeremy Corbyn, they say, did say that the reports, uh recommendations should be implemented in full on the third era of common ground is that Jeremy Corbyn and Kier Starmer do agree on the social justice agenda.

第二個領域的共同點是，傑里米-科爾賓，他們說，確實說報告，呃建議應該在第三個時代的共同點是傑里米-科爾賓和基爾-斯塔默確實同意社會正義議程。

I know that at least five members of the Socialist Campaign Group of MPs they agreed yesterday sent a message into their group, which includes Jeremy Corbyn, saying we should read the report.

我知道，至少有五名成員的社會主義運動集團的議員，他們昨天同意向他們的集團發送消息，其中包括傑里米-科爾賓，說我們應該閱讀報告。

We should digest the report on we should keep our counsel for the moment on.

我們應該消化報告，我們應該暫時保留我們的意見。

One member of that group said to me it is very unfortunate that Jeremy Corbyn decided to speak out so quickly.

該小組的一名成員對我說，傑里米-科爾賓這麼快就決定發聲，這是非常不幸的。

Well, we did ask Jeremy Corbyn for an interview, but he declined.

好吧，我們確實請傑里米-科爾賓接受採訪，但他拒絕了。

Earlier this evening, I spoke to Labour's deputy leader, Angela Rayner, and started by asking for her reaction to the E.

今天晚上早些時候，我和工黨副領導人安吉拉-雷納進行了交談，首先詢問了她對E。

Report for me is a member of the Labor Party.

For many years I think it was devastating, and I urge every labor member to read that report and to reflect upon that and today should be about those people who are faced in direct discrimination and harassment on what we're going to do to change that on as care said.

多年來，我認為這是毀滅性的，我敦促每一個勞工成員閱讀該報告，並反思，今天應該是關於那些在直接歧視和騷擾中面臨的人，我們將做什麼來改變這一點上的照顧說。

And I want to reiterate as the deputy leader of the Labor Party, my sincere apologies to people will face that harassment and discrimination.

而我想重申，作為工黨的副黨魁，我對人們將面臨的騷擾和歧視表示誠摯的歉意。

You were shadow education secretary, which is a senior post during a period when the report said the leadership chose not to tackle anti Semitism.

你是影子教育祕書，這是一個高級職位，在報告說領導層選擇不處理反猶太主義的時期。

Do you feel personally that you failed in a position of leadership in the party?

你個人覺得你在黨的領導崗位上很失敗嗎？

There was a collective failure and that's what the report said.

有一個集體的失敗，這就是報告中所說的。

I tried at the time to raise concerns that were being raised to me with allegations.

我當時試圖用指控向我提出關注。

The whole shadow cabinet members of the shadow Cabinet did that at the time, including Jeremy.

當時整個影子內閣的影子內閣成員都這樣做，包括傑里米。

Jeremy's acknowledged he raised these concerns on.

傑里米的承認他提出了這些擔憂，在。

Things were not done in a way that, you know, stopped us from getting in the position that we're in today and therefore that's incredibly devastating for all of us, and I accept my responsibility is part of that leadership because you told the BBC today that Jeremy Corbyn has an absolute blind spot and a denial when it comes to some of these issues, what does that mean?

事情沒有以一種方式完成，你知道，阻止我們進入今天的位置，是以這對我們所有人來說都是令人難以置信的破壞性，我接受我的責任是這種領導力的一部分，因為你今天告訴英國廣播公司，傑里米-科爾賓有一個絕對的盲點和否認，當它涉及到一些問題時，這是什麼意思？

What I mean by that is that we cannot mitigate any farm off anti Semitism in the Liberal Party even though it's one instances too many on therefore some of the comments that have been made about well, this is a small issue in the Labor Party.

我的意思是，我們不能減輕自由黨內任何農場的反閃族主義，即使它是一個例子太多，是以，一些評論說，嗯，這是一個小問題在工黨。

Any issue of anti Semitism in the Labor Party is something that you were saying.

工黨內任何反閃族主義的問題都是你說的。

I believe that the statement around the small numbers and to suggest that it's a small number in the Labor Party, whilst that might be true is completely unacceptable.

我相信，圍繞著少數人的聲明，並暗示這是工黨的少數人，雖然這可能是真的，但完全不能接受。

To not understand the hurt on the distress that people are feeling that it is not about the numbers, it's about the devastation of being found to have acted unlawfully in harassment and discrimination of people on anti Semitism grounds.

不理解人們所感受到的苦惱傷害，這不是數字的問題，而是被發現以反猶太主義為由非法騷擾和歧視他人的行為所帶來的破壞。

Your colleagues shadow cabinet calling Lisa Nandy has said tonight she doesn't know anymore if Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic, do you?

你的同事影子內閣叫Lisa Nandy今晚說她不知道Jeremy Corbyn是不是反閃族了，你呢？

I don't believe that Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic.

我不相信Jeremy Corbyn是反猶太教的。

So you disagree with, I think that I think that Jeremy Corbyn has spent his whole life trying to fight against all forms of racism and anti Simpson on.

所以你不同意，我認為，我認為傑里米-科爾賓一生都在努力反對一切形式的種族主義和反辛普森上。

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