You have been intrinsically involved in this.

你已經被捲入了這件事。

I just wanna know what led to this idea.

我只是想知道是什麼導致了這個想法。

And what were some of the findings of the research that did and did not surprise you?

而研究的結果有哪些讓你吃驚和不吃驚？

Well, I think like so many things that just started from a place of curiosity, we know that people like to say stick to sports.

好吧，我想就像很多事情一樣，只是從好奇心的地方開始，我們知道人們喜歡說堅持體育。

But we also know that sports and politics are inextricably linked.

但我們也知道，體育和政治是密不可分的。

But we really wanted to know To what degree?

但我們真正想知道的是什麼程度？

What numbers can we actually pull?

我們到底能拉到什麼數字？

And so why not start at the top?

那為什麼不從頭開始呢？

Started the wealthiest start at the owner.

在老闆那裡開始了最富有的開始。

So what we did is we took 160 owners across 125 teams in the MLB in the NHL, W N B, a NASCAR NFL and, of course, the MBA.

是以，我們所做的是，我們採取了160業主在125支球隊在MLB在NHL，W N B，一個納斯卡NFL，當然，MBA。

And we examined over the last five years since 2015.

而我們考察了自2015年以來的5年。

What have their federal level donations looked like looked like, And what we found is that $47 million over the last five years, thes owners have contributed right thio, different politicians, and we found that overwhelmingly owners donate towards Republican politicians and in 2020 alone.

他們在聯邦層面的捐款是什麼樣的呢，我們發現在過去的五年裡，4700萬美元，業主們捐給了不同的政治家，我們發現絕大多數業主都捐給了共和黨的政治家，僅在2020年。

What we found is that $10 million went towards Republicans versus just 1.9 million towards Democrats.

我們發現，有1000萬美元用於共和黨人，而民主黨人只有190萬美元。

And in the MBA, we thought that this information became even Mawr appropriate, even more important when players when we saw the Milwaukee Bucks go on that wildcat strike as you guys all saw.

而在MBA中，我們認為，當我們看到密爾沃基雄鹿隊進行了你們都看到的那場野貓罷賽時，這些資訊就變得更加馬伕合適了，甚至更加重要了。

And then the outcome of that was to ask for more support from owners and what ended up happening is Owner said, Okay, we're going to donate $300 million which is a ton of money over the next 10 years, towards causes that you all think are important.

然後這個結果是要求業主提供更多的支持，最後的結果是業主說，好吧，我們要在未來10年內捐出3億美金，這是一大筆錢，用於你們認為重要的事業。

That will help towards racial equality.

這將有助於實現種族平等。

But remember at the same time this league that we think of as so socially progressive, we also know is overwhelmingly Republican and towards of the in terms of the things that they donate towards and often times what we're seeing is this sort of stalemate where we knew wealthy folks tend to skew more conservative because those people, those conservative politicians, tend to pass certain laws that helps the wealthy stay wealthy, right, So there's sort of this interesting Catch 22 going on here where folks are asking, mostly black and brown women are asking ownership.

但請記住，在同一時間，這個聯盟，我們認為是如此的社會進步，我們也知道是壓倒性的共和黨，並朝著他們捐贈的東西，往往我們看到的是這種僵局，我們知道有錢人傾向於更保守，因為這些人，那些保守的政治家，傾向於通過某些法律，幫助富人保持富裕，所以有一種有趣的Catch 22正在這裡發生，人們正在問，大多數黑人和棕色的婦女正在要求所有權。

Hey, we want backing and we want financial support.

嘿，我們要支持，我們要資金支持。

But at the same time, what this data shows is that how much support can they actually give if on their in their personal lives there also donating to causes that in many ways actively oppress thes things these men and women are looking for?

但與此同時，這些數據顯示的是，如果在他們的個人生活中，也有捐贈給那些在很多方面積極壓迫這些男人和女人正在尋找的東西的事業，他們到底能給予多少支持？

I will point out that the one league that did not skew Republican in terms of the causes they donated towards was the W MBA.

我要指出的是，在他們捐贈的事業方面沒有偏向共和黨的一個聯盟是W MBA。

And that did not surprise Rachel.

而這並沒有讓瑞秋感到驚訝。

Uh huh.

嗯哼。

Well, you know it xyz interesting to me, playing 14 years and and playing for the Boston Celtics in the Oklahoma City Thunder in particular.

好吧，你知道對我來說，這xyz很有意思，打了14年，尤其是在俄克拉荷馬城雷霆隊為波士頓凱爾特人隊打球。

Those owners are great.

這些老闆都很厲害。

They're great individuals I'm looking at with growth back.

他們是偉大的個人，我看與成長回。

Steve Paddle, Yoga, James Cash, Clay Blend Bennett.

史蒂夫-帕德，瑜伽，詹姆斯-卡什，粘土混合班尼特。

They have great hearts.

他們有偉大的心靈。

I talked to these guys like, you know, once a week or twice a week on the telephone.

我跟這些傢伙一樣，你知道， 每週一次或兩次的電話。

They're they're great friends of mine, and it's a sticky situation, and it's hard to judge any person on who they vote for, why they're voting for a certain party.

他們是他們是我的好朋友，這是一個棘手的情況，它是很難判斷任何人在他們投票給誰，為什麼他們投票給某個黨。

I mean because it's confusing.

我的意思是，因為它的困惑。

I mean, us watching and not to get in the political state.

我的意思是，我們看著，不要進入政治狀態。

But watching the presidential debate, uh, it confused me well, to the point where it was like, Okay, I wanna vote this way.

但看了總統辯論，呃，它讓我很困惑，以至於我想，好吧，我想投這種方式。

I wanna vote this way.

我想往這邊投。

But I'm confused right now, so I don't look at them any certain type of way because I know that they have a heart ago.

但我現在很迷茫，所以我不會用任何一種類型的眼光去看他們，因為我知道他們有一顆心前。

I know that the Boston franchise, in particular the ownership group, are doing a lot of things in the community.

我知道波士頓特許經營權，特別是所有權集團，在社區做了很多事情。

And they have a lot of things, uh, that they plan on doing in the near future.

他們有很多事情，呃，他們計劃在不久的將來做。

That's gonna benefit and back the players.

這將有利於和支持球員。

Uh, tremendously.

呃，非常好。

So, you know, I'm looking at this situation, and I just know that hopefully they're doing the right things for the right reason.

所以，你知道，我看著這種情況， 我只知道，希望他們做正確的事情 為正確的理由。

So I can't judge anybody whether they vote Republican or Democratic longest.

所以我不能判斷任何人是投共和黨還是民主黨的票最長。

Their heart is in the right place when it comes down toe in social justice and equality in America.

他們在美國的社會正義和平等方面的心是正確的。

Right, Well, into your point perk what we found what a professor Josh Kalla at Yale told me, is that oftentimes people lean one way or the other politically and have ideals that maybe are different from what the party line is going to be.

好吧，好吧，進入你的點養生我們發現什麼一個教授喬希Kalla在耶魯大學告訴我，是，很多時候，人們傾向於一種方式或其他政治和理想，也許是不同的黨線是怎麼回事。

So, for instance, and owner like maybe the Boston Celtics owners that you're talking about, can fully believe or come to believe that black lives matter, that gay people should have the right to get married.

所以，舉例來說，和老闆像也許波士頓凱爾特人隊的老闆，你說的，可以完全相信或來相信，黑人的生命重要，同性戀者應該有結婚的權利。

But what often happens is incredibly wealthy people will rank, perhaps, and not saying, I've talked to the Boston Celtics owners but will rank importance in terms of we're going to donate this way, even though we hold this social cause to be a value of ours.

但經常發生的情況是，令人難以置信的富人會排行，也許，並不是說，我已經和波士頓凱爾特人隊的老闆談過了，而是會把重要性排在我們要這樣捐獻，儘管我們認為這個社會事業是我們的一個價值。

We're going to in terms of where we spend our political dollars.

我們要在政治資金的使用方面。

We're going to value the party that maybe helps with how we view money a little bit more than the party that perhaps more aligns with how we feel about gay marriage or any given social issue that you might come across.

我們會重視那個也許有助於我們如何看待金錢的政黨，而不是也許更符合我們對同志婚姻或任何特定社會問題的感受的政黨，你可能會遇到。

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感謝您在YouTube上觀看ESPN的體育直播和優質內容。