And a lot of people seem to interpret that is taking a shot at Tom Brady.

而很多人似乎把這句話解讀為在向湯姆-布雷迪開炮。

I don't think that's reasonable.

我不認為這是合理的。

I think he's taking a shot at people and the way they perceive Tom Brady and the way they perceive him.

我覺得他是在向人們開炮，向他們對湯姆-布雷迪的看法以及他們對他的看法開炮。

Rob Ninkovich, you played with Brady all those years.

羅伯-寧科維奇，你和布雷迪一起打了那麼多年的球

Is that a fair assessment that Odell just made?

奧德爾剛才的評價公平嗎？

Look, there definitely has to be a difference.

你看，肯定是有區別的。

Just like the Pro Bowl are starting the starting Pro Bowl or sleeping in the back of the meeting room.

就像職業碗一樣，都是在起點職業碗或者睡在後面的會議室。

Are they gonna cut that guy?

他們會把那個人砍掉嗎？

No, there's a difference.

不，這是有區別的。

Jimmie Johnson came to speak to our team one year, and he said they cut a player that was just a free agent because he was sleeping in the meeting.

有一年吉米-約翰遜來找我們球隊談話，他說他們裁掉了一個剛剛成為自由球員的球員，因為他在會議上睡覺。

They asked him, What would you do with Troy Aikman?

他們問他，你會怎麼處置特洛伊-艾克曼？

He said, I just go back there.

他說，我只是回到那裡。

Hey, Troy, wake up.

嘿，特洛伊，醒醒吧

There's a difference.

這是有區別的。

Tom Brady is screaming at his offensive line to be better in the Bears game.

湯姆-布雷迪在熊隊的比賽中對他的進攻線大呼小叫，要做得更好。

And guess what?

你猜怎麼著？

The next game, they were better.

下一場比賽，他們的表現更好。

O.

O.

B.

B.

J is not a Hall of Famer just yet.

J還不是名人堂成員。

He just had he had injuries that has set his career back.

他只是有他的傷病，讓他的職業生涯受挫。

Tom Brady is a Hall of Famer.

湯姆-布雷迪是名人堂成員。

There is a difference.

是有區別的。

You can see it, and definitely in the way he motivates his teammates.

你可以看到，絕對是他激勵隊友的方式。

Difference.

差異。

I'm going.

我要走了

Tom Brady conduce that because he's earned the right to do that with those six Super Bowl rings.

湯姆-布雷迪之所以會這樣做，是因為他贏得了這六枚超級碗戒指的權利。

Ryan Clark agree.

瑞安-克拉克同意。

Why are your eyes closed?

你為什麼閉著眼睛？

Our seat?

我們的座位？

You know what, Rob gonna say?

你知道嗎，羅布會說什麼？

I don't even know why you all started with Rob Rob.

我甚至不知道為什麼你們都以羅布羅布開始。

So Rob could come out here and say, Oh, Brady is better than everybody.

所以羅伯可以在這裡說，哦，布雷迪比所有人都強。

He gets to do whatever the hell he wants.

他想做什麼就做什麼。

Well, he just got six.

嗯，他剛剛得到了六個。

He been cussing people out, So let's not say it's because he got six now.

他一直在罵人，所以我們不要說是因為他現在有六個人。

He won extremely early, and that's fine.

他贏得極早，這很好。

But we're not talking about the emotional deposits he's made in the bank accounts of the New England Patriots organization.

但我們談論的不是他在新英格蘭愛國者組織銀行賬戶上的感情存款。

We're talking about the media.

我們說的是媒體。

We're talking about perception.

我們說的是觀念。

We're talking about things that feel familiar, and Tom Brady has always had kind of this opportunity in this cachet because it looks right because he's screaming and all its passion.

我們正在談論的事情，感覺很熟悉，湯姆布雷迪一直有種這種機會在這個緩存，因為它看起來是正確的，因為他的尖叫和所有它的激情。

I love it when Tom Brady's All Passionate, but you could look at cams sideline antics the way that people hate on him and critique him.

我喜歡湯姆-布雷迪激情四射的時候，但你可以看看凸輪邊線滑稽動作的方式，人們討厭他，責備他。

It's different.

這是不同的。

And now you goto Odell Beckham Jr.

現在，你得到了小奧德爾-貝克漢姆。

And you're saying that Odell is not a Hall of Famer yet?

你是說奧德爾還不是名人堂成員？

Well, technically, neither is Tom Brady.

嚴格來說，湯姆-布雷迪也不是。

But Odell Beckham Jr from the beginning had Mawr Hall of Fame talent.

但小奧德爾-貝克漢姆從一開始就具有毛氏名人堂的天賦。

Then Tom Brady.

那麼湯姆-布雷迪。

Odell Beckham Jr was on the Hall of Fame track with the quarterback who was descending, who was at the end of his rope, who he was making look good with slats.

小奧德爾-貝克漢姆在名人堂的跑道上，與四分衛一起下降，誰在他的繩索的盡頭，他用板條讓誰好看。

The other part is this.

另一部分是這樣的。

Odell Beckham Jr implodes right many of the times that he was having his issues on the sideline.

小奧德爾-貝克漢姆內訌就在很多時候，他在場邊的問題。

It was between him and the field goal kicking neck.

這是他和場球踢脖子之間。

That's who had the issues.

那是誰出了問題。

He wasn't cussing his teammates out.

他不是在罵隊友。

He was in any time.

他在任何時候。

He said anything to him.

他對他說了什麼。

He was imploring them to be better along with himself.

他在暗示他們和自己一起變得更好。

So I don't have a problem with Brady doing what he does.

所以我對布雷迪的所作所為沒有異議。

But I do have a problem with people comparing it to Odell Beckham Jr and saying it's different for some reason, it's not different.

但我對人們將其與小奧德爾-貝克漢姆相提並論，說它因某種原因而不同，這確實有問題。

People are different.

人與人是不同的。

We perceive things differently from the outside and because Tom Brady who looks like all the quarterbacks we've ever seen and who screams.

我們對外界事物的看法不同，因為湯姆-布雷迪他和我們見過的所有四分衛長相一樣，而且他的尖叫聲。

And cousins, like most of the people who right look, they look like him is.

而表哥表妹，像大多數人右看，他們看他是。

Well, when you see this young African American kid with a blonde Mohawk, it looks different.

當你看到這個留著金髮莫霍克髮型的非洲裔美國年輕人時，就會覺得不一樣了。

It feels different.

感覺不一樣了。

You critique it different.

你責備它不同。

You talk about it differently.

你說的不一樣。

This ain't got nothing to do with how much they want.

這和他們要多少錢沒有關係。

That's fair.

這很公平

I will say this.

我要說的是：

The only person I heard comparing those two things this week was Odell.

本週我聽到的唯一一個比較這兩件事的人是奧德爾。

I didn't hear almost any criticism of Hotel Beckham years ago, years ago, Tissue, I forget.

幾年前，我幾乎沒有聽到對貝克漢姆酒店的責備，幾年前，Tissue，我忘了。

It started years ago, but my point is he made a big deal of this this week.

幾年前就開始了，但我的觀點是，他這周大肆宣揚這件事。

Coming out of that game where Cleveland got waxed, the story was Baker Mayfield.

從克利夫蘭被打蠟的那場比賽出來，故事是貝克-梅菲爾德。

I didn't hear anyone talking about Odell.

我沒聽到有人說起奧黛爾。

I saw I was at the game and I saw him do it.

我看到我在比賽中，我看到他這樣做。

I saw him take his shoes off, and I've covered Odell long enough to know that he is emotional and he can be erratic.

我看到他脫鞋了，我報道奧德爾的時間夠長了，知道他很情緒化，也很不穩定。

I don't think this is a conversation about whether or not Odell Beckham Jr is a bad teammate.

我不認為這是一個關於小奧德爾-貝克漢姆是否是一個壞隊友的話題。

This is Odell Beckham Jr.

這是小奧德爾-貝克漢姆。

Just being a bad version of Odell Beckham Jr.

只是做一個壞版的小奧德爾-貝克漢姆。

Ryan.

萊恩

I hear what you're saying about Tom Brady has done this all the time.

我聽到你說的湯姆-布雷迪一直在做這個。

He's earned that equity.

他贏得了那份權益。

Tom Brady is the quarterback.

湯姆-布雷迪是四分衛。

He's a leader of that team.

他是那支隊伍的領袖。

Odell Beckham Jr showed zero leadership.

小奧德爾-貝克漢姆的領導力表現為零。

Yeah, he rallies the guys, and he's one of the most incredible athletes to walk on this planet.

是的，他團結了大家，他是這個星球上最不可思議的運動員之一。

But what has he really done?

但他到底做了什麼？

Thio earn that kind of be here?

賺取那種在這裡？

That continues to be a problem.

這仍然是一個問題。

You have Kevin Stefanski, by the way.

順便說一下，你有凱文-斯特凡斯基。

Now, who has toe handle this?

現在，誰來處理這個問題？

And Ryan?

瑞安呢？

You know this because we've talked about this on the show.

你知道這一點，因為我們在節目中談過這個問題。

The idea of trade Eo Deco Odell Beckham Jr is always on the table in Cleveland because of this stuff.

因為這個東西，交易小奧德科-貝克漢姆的想法在克利夫蘭一直都在桌面上。

They don't know how to handle hits.

他們不知道如何處理命中率。

The fancies had to deal with Stefon Diggs back in Minnesota.

花花公子們不得不對付斯蒂芬-迪格斯回到明尼蘇達。

That's the closest he's had in terms of dealing with a very emotional wide receiver.

這是他在處理一個非常情緒化的外接手方面最接近的一次。

But this if you're not performing on the field, very not a lot of openness to dealing with this because he's not doing enough.

但是這個如果你在場上沒有表現，非常沒有很多的開放性來處理這個問題，因為他做的不夠好。

I fear we have lost our seat.

恐怕我們已經失去了座位。

Barnes got into the conversation.

巴恩斯進入了談話。

Go ahead, but I mean the whole thing.

去吧，但我指的是整個事情。

Life's not fair.

生活是不公平的。

Newsflash, Odell, you have to come to grips with.

新消息，奧德爾，你必須要面對的是：

I understand.

我明白了。

Yeah, I remember coming here and you'll have the whole mister Can't wait.

是啊，我記得來這裡，你會有整個先生不能等待。

And Tim Tebow came here, right?

蒂姆-特波來過這裡，對嗎？

Tim Tebow comes and guess who had to be his date to the Met Gala to be able to get in.

蒂姆-特波來了，你猜猜看，誰必須是他的約會對象，才能進入Met Gala。

Right?

對吧？

So, you know, Tim Tebow could go over.

所以，你知道，蒂姆-特波可以過去。

He could go play baseball.

他可以去打棒球。

I had a dream one time, right?

有一次我做了一個夢，對吧？

I had a dream of being professional bull.

我有一個夢想，就是做職業牛人。

I thought it was gonna be Pete Weber.

我還以為會是皮特-韋伯。

The third I thought I was gonna be the next great thing.

第三次我以為我會成為下一個偉大的事情。

But I don't get the same type of opportunities.

但我沒有得到同樣類型的機會。

Listen, Odell Beckham is always gonna have that narrative, because until he becomes a winner, that's what's gonna happen.

聽著，奧德爾・貝克漢姆總是會有這種說法， 因為直到他成為贏家，這就是要發生的事情。

Is it right?

是這樣嗎？

No, But we understand.

不，但我們理解。

In this country, Ryan, we understand that sometimes the narrative isn't written by us and written by other people.

在這個國家，瑞安，我們明白，有時敘事不是由我們寫的，而是由其他人寫的。

There's always gonna be that way.

總是會有這樣的情況。

Exactly one minute Left, RC, go.

只剩一分鐘了，RC，走。

No, I don't think it has anything to do with the position you play.

不，我不認為這與你所扮演的位置有什麼關係。

Necessarily.

必須的。

I believe that's only outside of the building because I worked in the building, and I played for a team that won Super Bowls that went to two Super Bowls, that our quarterback couldn't act.

我相信這只是在大樓外面，因為我在大樓裡工作，我為一支贏得超級碗的球隊效力，他們去了兩個超級碗，我們的四分衛不能採取行動。

That way.

這樣一來。

Our quarterback couldn't walk down to the defense and talk to us like Tom Brady talked to us, right?

我們的四分衛不可能像湯姆-布雷迪那樣走到防守席上跟我們說話，對吧？

Like Tom Brady talks to those guys now are linebacker James various.

像湯姆-布雷迪現在跟那些人談的是後衛詹姆斯各種。

He could say whatever he wants to meet Our wide receiver.

他可以說任何他想見到我們的外接手。

Hines Ward could say whatever he wanted to meet because he worked that way because he cared that way, because when we watched him at practice, he was out working everybody there.

海因斯-沃德可以說他想見什麼就說什麼，因為他這樣工作，因為他這樣關心，因為當我們在訓練中看到他的時候，他在那裡為大家工作。

And that's what Odell Beckham Jr does.

而小奧德爾-貝克漢姆就是這麼做的。

And for the most part, I've never heard a teammate have an issue with him.

而在大多數情況下，我從來沒有聽說過有隊友對他有意見。

You tell me the teammate that has an issue with him and we could talk about it, but they don't have them.

你告訴我那個對他有意見的隊友，我們可以談談，但他們沒有。

They love him everywhere he goes, so I don't get it.

他走到哪裡都有人喜歡他，所以我不明白。

I just don't get it.

我只是不明白。

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