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  • - I haven't done this before.

  • I could learn stuff and this could be really fun,

  • just, how does Disney make a show,

  • you know what I mean?

  • Like what kind of checks and balances

  • and nets of mediocrity are we gonna be working with here?

  • I'm Justin Roiland.

  • And this is the timeline of my career!

  • [whimsical music]

  • [alarm beeping]

  • There's something out in space that could use

  • Just a little investigation

  • All right, Most Extraordinary Space Investigations,

  • that was a Channel 101 show that me, Dan Harmon

  • and Sevan Najarian put together for fun one night.

  • We wrote it, or we didn't even write it,

  • we just kind of outlined it, and then we shot it

  • in one night, and then Dan took the footage.

  • And we kind of forgot about it.

  • And then at the panel meeting, we were watching tapes

  • and Dan produced it, and he's like, "I've got a tape."

  • And he put it in, and he had edited it

  • and made it into this ridiculous show

  • and it was really funny

  • and it got screened, it got voted back

  • and we just kept making episodes.

  • Sarah Silverman joined us, I think on the second

  • or third episode, as like a regular cast member

  • of the space investigators.

  • [laughing] It's so dumb.

  • We would shoot it in my old apartment in Sherman Oaks

  • and just like, it was the most lo-fi,

  • like there was zero production value.

  • But people liked it.

  • Anyways, whatever.

  • It was a lot of fun to make that show

  • because we weren't allowed to write anything

  • until we got together the night we were gonna shoot it.

  • So we would get together,

  • having no idea what the story was gonna be,

  • and then we would all sit around

  • and just kind of smoke weed and, [laughing]

  • and you know, then we'd just come up with the story

  • and then just start shooting it all night long.

  • We'd usually wrap shooting around like four in the morning.

  • In my apartment.

  • [laughs] It was like everything was in my apartment

  • or around my apartment.

  • It was so funny.

  • - Here goes nothing.

  • - I just wanna let you know, that I don't trust you.

  • [upbeat music]

  • - Mharti, Mharti we have a problem.

  • - So "The Real Animated Adventures of Doc and Mharti"

  • was, I wanted to just do those voices

  • and kinda screw around, but I also wanted to make something

  • really shocking and disgusting on purpose.

  • I had done it before with a thing

  • called "Unbelievable Tales".

  • I got a huge rush off of being in the audience

  • and hearing the audience like just scream

  • and cover their eyes and, I don't know,

  • there was something really cool about having

  • that kind of effect on, you know, 400 people in a theater.

  • It was like, it was just insane

  • to elicit reactions like that.

  • And so that was kind of the primary motivation.

  • And then as I was making it, I kind of found,

  • I really liked the characters and the voices a lot

  • and I liked, I just liked, you know,

  • the talking to myself as those voices

  • and there was a lot about it that I liked

  • so I kind of accidentally stumbled upon that

  • throughout the course of making it.

  • But the audience definitely freaked the [beep] out,

  • which was amazing.

  • - But I don't understand how that would work, Doc,

  • I don't, I don't, I'm confused, I don't--

  • - Mharti, trust me, I built this car with my

  • own two hands. - You just need

  • to adjust.

  • I can help you have fun.

  • I'm a friend you can trust.

  • - Hmm.

  • - [screaming] - Leave him alone!

  • - No rhyming.

  • - Acceptable TV, that was a show on VH1 for a minute.

  • The show was kind of a little microcosm of Channel 101.

  • So we basically banked a bunch of sketches and animations

  • and then when the show was live,

  • the audience would vote on their favorite two shows

  • through this website that was designed, on Ruby on Rails.

  • And I remember that being a huge problem

  • because the website sucked and it was easy to hack

  • and all this shit.

  • So the show would air and there would be

  • five little mini TV shows that were like sketches.

  • And then people would vote on their favorite two.

  • We would find out Sunday which shows came back

  • and then we would get to work and basically start writing

  • the second episode of whatever shows they'd voted on

  • and start producing them.

  • We did a thing called Mr. Sprinkles

  • for the first episode, it got voted back,

  • and I had an animation department that I was running

  • where we were having to animate the second episode

  • in basically three and 1/2 days.

  • It was [beep]ing insane 'cause it was on light boards,

  • you know, classic animation,

  • painted backgrounds and After Effects.

  • And then the show kept, the animation kept getting

  • voted back eight weeks in a row,

  • and we were [beep]ing dead, the animation department

  • was just on fumes, 'cause we weren't sleeping.

  • I remember eight weeks, I was just like,

  • "I can't [beep]ing do this."

  • And I was also bummed because all these cartoons

  • we had banked are never gonna air.

  • Like we had animated I think four different

  • cool, fun little cartoon TV show ideas

  • and it was just Mr. Sprinkles the whole time.

  • The audience really likes this Mr. Sprinkles stuff.

  • It was good, I like Mr. Sprinkles, it's fun.

  • Whatever.

  • - I'm fine all day when the sun is out,

  • but when it rains I scream and shout.

  • - But this isn't about screaming and shouting,

  • is it Mr. Sprinkles?

  • Oh I found a perfect roomie

  • Who could be a perfect buddy

  • Together we'll make a lovely pair

  • - I took a meeting with Mike Moon at Disney.

  • Alex Hirsch was there, that was the first time I met Alex.

  • And then they pitched me this Fish Hooks thing.

  • And Alex was looking for someone to help him develop it.

  • It was very different, I was like,

  • oh, I haven't done this before.

  • I could learn stuff and this could be really fun,

  • just how does Disney make a show, you know what I mean?

  • Like what kind of checks and balances

  • and nets of mediocrity are we gonna be working with here?

  • So, and how can I rise to that challenge

  • and try to help make something that's really good

  • or as good as it can be?

  • - Okay Bea, then it's a date!

  • See you tomorrow!

  • I mean, not a date date, because you know,

  • why would I want that?

  • [laughing nervously]

  • - This castle is in

  • unacceptable condition!

  • Unacceptable!

  • - Ah, Adventure Time.

  • Ah, the French wine. [laughing]

  • Adventure Time was fun, that was Pen Ward.

  • He was a fan of my podcast, called Grandma's Virginity,

  • check it out, all the episodes are still online.

  • And, actually don't check it out, don't even, who cares.

  • But he came on an episode and then I think,

  • I feel like on the episode, I was like,

  • "Come on Pen, put me in this show."

  • I might have been doing that.

  • And then he ended up like actually offering me a part

  • and I didn't know what it was gonna be.

  • And I went and recorded, I went there

  • and I just started, I just was like, "How about this?"

  • And I screamed.

  • I just did the screamy voice.

  • And he was like, "That'll do."

  • It was really cool and I did the first episode

  • and then by the third episode, it was,

  • there was so much of Lemongrab,

  • there were a bunch of clones of him

  • and I was doing all of them and they all screamed.

  • And I was in the booth for about three hours.

  • - Unacceptable!

  • - Hm, acceptable.

  • - What!?

  • - And after that I went back

  • to the Rick and Morty writers room

  • and I remember that we were talking about something

  • and I tried to do Morty's voice and I couldn't do his voice,

  • it just wouldn't happen.

  • And then Tom Kenny told me,

  • I think I was recording him for an episode, and he was like,

  • "You need to go to this doctor."

  • I went to see this doctor and he,

  • he was like, "Okay, yeah.

  • "You don't have any vocal nodules

  • "but your vocal cords are super, super swollen.

  • "You need to not talk for like two weeks.

  • "And here's a cortisone shot."

  • Boom!

  • Cortisone.

  • That stuff.

  • No, it doesn't, it just hurts, I don't know.

  • I couldn't talk and so I had to download this app,

  • this text-to-speech app called, like, Talkbot.

  • It sounds really depressed.

  • Like everything you type and,

  • if you type out what you want or what you need to say

  • and you hit play, and the voice sounds really sad.

  • And so people thought I was sad the whole time and I wasn't.

  • We ended up using that voice for the butter robot.

  • That's literally how I was talking.

  • If you listen to the butter robot

  • in that Rick and Morty episode,

  • that one famous Rick and Morty episode

  • with the butter robot, you know the one I'm talking about.

  • - What is my purpose?

  • - Pass the butter.

  • Thank you!

  • - That's literally what I sounded like for two weeks.

  • All because of Lemongrab.

  • - [screaming]

  • - There's only one way out of here.

  • - Through me!

  • [dramatic music]

  • Oh, ugh, sorry.

  • Come on.

  • Through me!

  • - Gravity Falls.

  • I knew Alex.

  • He was around when we were working on Fish Hooks,

  • he was literally like down the hall.

  • And he always had his door closed

  • and he was developing Gravity Falls in that room.

  • When they got going with the first season,

  • he had me come in and do a few different characters.

  • He knew he wanted me in there somewhere

  • and so it was just like, coming in and doing a voice

  • and then it wouldn't stick.

  • And then I'd come in and I think I did maybe two,

  • I can't remember what characters.

  • And then I came in and did Blendin and that one clicked.

  • It was like, okay, this one feels right.

  • That was fun.

  • It was fun to be that character because I knew,

  • there was a lot of stuff that that character

  • was involved in, a lot of Easter eggs,

  • like throughout the course of the season.

  • So that was really cool to be that character.

  • - Blendin Blenjamin Blandin!

  • How could you not know my name after you ruin my life?

  • - No you can't.

  • Jessica doesn't even know I exist.

  • But, but, but, but forget about that because

  • you can't blow up the planet--

  • - I get what you're trying to say, Morty.

  • Listen, I'm not, you don't, you don't gotta worry about me

  • trying to fool around with Jessica

  • or mess around with Jessica or anything--

  • - So Rick and Morty.

  • That was, the genesis of that obviously

  • was with Doc and Mharti as we discussed earlier,

  • as you heard me ramble about.

  • Then I kinda started workshopping those characters,

  • you know, into stuff that's a bit more legitimate,

  • not just shock, gross stuff.

  • And then Harmon called me and said, "Hey, Adult Swim

  • "wants an animated show from me."

  • And at the time he was working on Community.

  • He's like, "Do you have anything?

  • "'Cause you're the, you're the animation guy, I don't,"

  • at the time he was like, "I don't know animation."

  • He knew the characters 'cause I had been doing them

  • in Channel 101 for years.

  • He was like, "Yes, okay.

  • "I [beep]ing love those characters.

  • "That's the perfect thing that we can work around."

  • I ended up meeting up with him and we just sat

  • and developed the show and kind of

  • built a sturdier, more broad frame around the characters,

  • which is what became Rick and Morty, the family.

  • A stable foundation to build absurd craziness on top of.

  • I didn't realize how valuable that was.

  • In retrospect it's insanely valuable

  • and it's like a lesson I learned.

  • I still think you can make really cool shit

  • that's just insane, everything's insane

  • and it doesn't need to be super grounded

  • and palatable and stuff, but I see the strength

  • for Rick and Morty and where that takes us.

  • It doesn't feel like it's just a bunch of nonsense.

  • It's like, it's very, there's, it's very grounded.

  • I remember doing the animatic for the pilot

  • and turning that in, and the network

  • did not like my voices at all, for Rick and Morty.

  • They did not.

  • Lazzo hated it.

  • I think a lot of people there were like, "Uh.

  • "We like this show a lot

  • "but the voices are [beep]ing terrible."

  • And at the time, Morty was more like, "Ah jeez,

  • "ah come on, what's going on man, like [groaning]",

  • like really obnoxious and grating.

  • So they had a phone call without me.

  • And Harmon called me afterwards and he's like, "Okay.

  • "I'm just gonna rip the Band-Aid off here.

  • "They loved the pilot, they don't like the voices.

  • "I fought for Rick so you're gonna get to do Rick.

  • "But we gotta recast, we have to cast somebody for Morty,

  • "we have to look for somebody."

  • And I was like, "[beep], like that completely

  • defeats the whole point."

  • 'Cause I really wanted to be able

  • to bounce back and forth and do these characters

  • the way I had been doing them.

  • And a lot of that stuff was me making shit up

  • and just weird shit will come into my head doing that.

  • But I was like, "Okay, I'm not gonna freak out.

  • "Let's play ball.

  • "We'll audition people."

  • We auditioned a bunch of people, a bunch of good people.

  • We picked our favorite three, we submitted them,

  • Lazzo hated them.

  • Well, hate is a strong word.

  • He just was, it didn't work.

  • He was like, "This isn't working."

  • And I called Lazzo and I just said, "Listen.

  • "We'll keep looking."

  • 'Cause he, the note was, he wanted it grounded.

  • He wanted it a normal voice, not warbly and over-the-top.

  • This is the conversation that I found out,

  • oh, that's why they didn't like it.

  • 'Cause I'm doing this crazy version of Morty

  • and I need to just make him more grounded and normal

  • and it's really about the acting.

  • So I had my buddy Bryan Newton

  • storyboard these little recordings I did.

  • Like Dan wrote up a couple little sentences of like,

  • okay, this is the scenario, Rick and Morty are in the car

  • and Rick's talking about how he's gonna start a new world

  • but he won't, he's gonna get Jessica

  • but he's not gonna do anything with her.

  • And I was like, "Just a little blurb."

  • So I took that as like a, you know, my prompt.

  • And I just recorded that whole scene.

  • And I did Morty normal and made Morty pissed.

  • Like I remember I needed Morty to get mad and I needed Morty

  • to show some spine in him to fight back.

  • And I knew that was super important

  • to selling the character and the voice.

  • And then I cut the audio and I gave it to Bryan,

  • who storyboarded it all, and I cut those boards

  • into an animatic and I sent that to Lazzo

  • two days before we sent our top three picks

  • for the Morty voice, and I swear to god

  • one of those people woulda gotten the part

  • because they were really good.

  • Like they were all like, "Oh, this is what he wants."

  • He called me the next morning and he's like,

  • "Okay, you got the part, this is great.

  • "Just, you know, be the best Morty you can be,"

  • or something, I can't remember what he said.

  • But I was like, "Phew, thank god."

  • And then we ended up taking that animatic that I improv'd

  • and we put it as the cold open to the pilot.

  • It's not anything to do with the story you're about to watch

  • but it's a really great scene that introduces you

  • to both Rick and Morty in a really interesting, funny way.

  • Then we went on and we're making episodes to this very day

  • and they're about to premiere.

  • What a world with the, in my garbage dungeon.

  • I was able to finally get a garbage dungeon.

  • Is it on camera?

  • Oh yeah.

  • That's a live feed from the other room back there.

  • Anyway.

  • Let's keep going.

  • - What are you crazy?

  • - Just let you ruin the whole world?

  • - All right, all right Morty.

  • All right, all right, I'll land, I'll land,

  • I'll land, I'll land the thing, I'll land the thing.

  • Big tough guy.

  • - [Deep Voice] Merry Christmas, mother--

  • [deranged squeaking] [man yelling]

  • [gunshots] [deranged squeaking]

  • [both screaming]

  • - "Krampus" was my buddy Michael Dougherty,

  • making another one of his zany horror movies

  • that he tends to make, that character.

  • He was like, "Hey, do the voice

  • "of one of these little goblins,

  • "these little cookie gingerbread monster guys."

  • It was so fun, it was easy.

  • But yeah, he did it on this giant soundstage.

  • It didn't even feel like work, like,

  • it was just like goofing around in this giant soundstage

  • and it was just me and Michael and the engineer.

  • It was like super, there wasn't a bunch of people there.

  • And we just sorta hung out, and then we recorded

  • and then watched a little bit of the movie.

  • Not the whole thing, but you know, different scenes.

  • It was super exciting, I was like really,

  • I was like, "Dude, this movie's awesome."

  • I'm a big fan of his stuff, he's great.

  • I wanna see him do more low-budget horror stuff,

  • and not movies like "Godzilla", 'cause it's like,

  • who wants to direct a $300 million movie,

  • that sounds like a [beep]ing nightmare.

  • You know, think of all the cooks in that kitchen.

  • That does not sound like something

  • that you'd be able to have much fun doing.

  • In my humble opinion.

  • [deranged squeaking] [man groaning]

  • - Murder Powder?

  • - Aw, he wants more Murder Powder?

  • Who's my little drug addict?

  • - Me.

  • - Aw, sorry, we're all out.

  • [moaning]

  • I need that Murder Powder.

  • - Hot Streets was my friend Brian's show.

  • I helped him sell that show

  • and I executive produced it for him.

  • In full disclosure, need to make sure that's clear

  • for legal reasons.

  • And I did the voice of Chubbie Webbers.

  • And Brian was writing lines of dialogue for this character

  • that didn't speak, so I would see the script

  • and I'm like, "There's all this dialog that I'm not,"

  • "you want me to just mumble stuff."

  • So that was pretty good.

  • It was in the days before the coronavirus

  • so it was a good time, you know?

  • I think we take those times for granted,

  • or we took them for granted.

  • You know, now here we are,

  • quarantined and living in trash dungeons.

  • But back then it was good.

  • Times were good, you know?

  • It's like that "Dazed and Confused" movie,

  • you watch that and you're like, "Ah, man.

  • "Those were the good old days," you know?

  • And that's how I feel thinking about my part on Hot Streets.

  • Huh, Pup Pup?

  • Yep.

  • No, okay.

  • - You fix the helicopter.

  • - Murder Powder?

  • - Murder Powder is for doggies who fix helicopters.

  • - [grunting]

  • - Is this about Migo missing the gong?

  • - Stonekeeper, he saw a smallfoot!

  • - He said it might still be out there!

  • - He said it fell from the sky!

  • - Garry, calm down.

  • You know how you get.

  • - Okay I'll try but I'm just so scared!

  • - "Smallfoot" was a small experience

  • because I went in, they offered me the part

  • and I said, "Oh yeah, that's fun."

  • And I went in and it was like I was there

  • for maybe an hour tops, maybe less.

  • 'Cause Garry's lines are just a few lines

  • but they're sprinkled throughout the movie.

  • He's got a nice runner, you know?

  • It's pretty good.

  • The crew there was really great.

  • I gave 'em 110%, I'm a team player.

  • And yeah, I just kind of like,

  • they told me how Garry should be and I did it

  • exactly as they asked.

  • And it was really fun.

  • It was actually really fun.

  • It was cool to see.

  • That and "Krampus" both were really interesting to see

  • how movies are mixed.

  • It's extravagant.

  • It's like a massive theater room.

  • - Wha, wha, wha, what if it is a smallfoot?

  • Does that mean a stone is wrong?

  • [all gasping]

  • - [coughing] They are wrong.

  • - Yeah!

  • - It's like people just generally don't like us.

  • One guy hates you.

  • - Who?

  • - This, some dude Tyler.

  • - I don't even know anyone named Tyler.

  • - [groaning] Feels like I'm covered in bees.

  • - Fuck this Tyler guy.

  • What did I ever do to him?

  • - We, we could act different, Korvo.

  • I mean we could make people like us.

  • - And I need to repair this godforsaken ship.

  • And if people don't like us,

  • that will make that job so much harder in so many ways.

  • So to be clear, I don't need to be liked.

  • It's strictly a work necessity.

  • - Well I need to be liked!

  • - Solar Opposites.

  • The reason why you've sat through all of this.

  • You wanna learn more about this brand new thing.

  • This was a show that, I originally had the idea

  • for a very different version of it in 2007

  • on Acceptable TV.

  • The show was basically two aliens

  • that were kind of an odd couple

  • that were stationed on Earth.

  • It was gonna be live action with like papier-mache heads

  • and then like CGI mouth and eyes.

  • And it was gonna look really cool.

  • We started from there, and then Mike and I were work,

  • Mike McMahan and I were developing it

  • in between seasons two and three of Rick and Morty

  • so a long time ago.

  • We were having a lot of fun and we started building

  • a frame around the show that was like,

  • okay, well let's set it up where their planet got destroyed,

  • there is no supreme leader that they're reporting back to.

  • They're on Earth, living amongst humans,

  • sort of stranded like Gilligan's Island

  • on this planet with us, with people.

  • And they have their replicants with them.

  • But they don't understand human culture

  • and one of them, Korvo, the one I do the voice of,

  • is very button-down and like, you know,

  • doesn't wanna like things and just is just grumpy

  • and wants to just have things be clean and simple

  • and structured and really wants to get the [beep]

  • off Earth 'cause Earth is just not his, it's just not okay.

  • Terry, the character who's voiced by Thomas Middleditch

  • who's sort of the Earth-loving, human culture-loving alien.

  • Terry sort of brings Korvo into the human world.

  • Korvo begrudgingly finds things he likes

  • but he's just a grump, you know what I mean?

  • Real classic case of the odd couple.

  • Thanks so much, Vanity Fair, for letting me reminisce

  • about my career that's for sure done.

  • Because of the coronavirus.

  • And let's all take a moment to remember the past.

  • And the good times.

  • [laughing] I know that's too long.

  • Okay wait, what do you want me to do again?

  • Sorry.

  • Hey, thanks a lot for letting me discuss my career

  • at length in this echoey room, my trash dungeon room.

  • Okay, we can start over.

  • Hey, thanks for letting me discuss my career.

  • It was a real pleasure for me, whoop diddy doo, huh?

  • Um.

  • [laughing]

  • Hold on.

  • Hey, thanks for letting me babble on and on about my career.

  • Thanks a lot.

  • I wanna thank Barack Obama and Jesus Christ and,

  • let me start over.

  • Hey, thanks for letting me babble

  • about my career for you, huh?

  • Branity Fair, Vanity Fear, whatever?

  • What are you guys up to over there, anyways?

  • Uh, so I'm gonna just hang out here

  • in my corona trash dungeon.

  • I'm gonna be playing Minecraft

  • and I'll see you all after the coronavirus.

  • And please be safe.

  • That's too long, that's too long, let me do one more.

- I haven't done this before.

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