It's a special one.

這是一個特殊的。

I'm your host, Stephen Colbert, and I'm very excited because tonight we'll take a break from talking about what happened in the West Wing and instead talk about what happened on The West Wing, specifically a West Wing special to benefit when we all vote on HBO.

我是你們的主持人，斯蒂芬-科爾伯特，我非常興奮，因為今晚我們將從談論西翼發生的事情中抽身出來，而是談論西翼發生的事情，特別是西翼特別節目，當我們都在HBO上投票時，我們將受益。

Max.

最多。

It's a huge event next Thursday, October 15th, bringing together the cast and creators of one of the most iconic shows off the last 20 years.

10月15日，下週四，這是一個巨大的事件，彙集了過去20年中最具代表性的節目之一的演員和創作者。

Plus, it's on HBO, so maybe we'll finally get a peek at Josiah Bartlet's South Wing.

另外，這是在HBO播出的，所以也許我們最終會看到Josiah Bartlet的南翼。

I'm talking Martin Machine pain.

我說的是馬丁機的痛苦。

Don't let us down, Marty.

不要讓我們失望，馬蒂。

It's all the benefit Michelle Obama's voter initiative when we all vote.

這都是米歇爾-奧巴馬的選民倡議的好處，當我們都投票的時候。

Oh, I know that 1 November third.

哦，我知道，11月1日第三。

Do it.

做到這一點。

Tonight I'll be interviewing West Wing stars Mark Sheen, Allison Janney, Richard Schiff, Bradley Whitford and creator Aaron Sorkin in honor of Sorkin.

今晚我將採訪西翼明星馬克-希恩、艾莉森-詹尼、理查德-希夫、布拉德利-惠特福德和創作者亞倫-索金，以紀念索金。

I want to do the whole thing is a walk and talk, but right now office hallways air just a disease vector.

我想做的事情就是邊走邊說，但現在辦公室走廊的空氣只是一個病媒。

So we zoomed it in prepping for tonight.

所以我們把它放大了，為今晚做準備。

It's been a treat to turn my attention to the happiest time in American history fiction When it comes to fictional presidents, no one inspired our country.

把我的注意力轉移到美國曆史上最幸福的時期小說上，真是一種享受。 說到虛構的總統，沒有人激勵我們的國家。

Like President Josiah Bartlet.

就像約西亞-巴特利總統一樣。

He led the country, at least on TV, from 1999 to 2006 at which point he retired and found love with Sam Waterston.

從1999年到2006年，他在全國範圍內，至少在電視上是領先的，這時他退休了，並找到了與山姆-沃特斯頓的愛情。

You know, Donald Trump could take a page out of Jed Bartlet's book, especially when it comes to handling illness.

唐納德-特朗普可以借鏡傑德-巴特雷的書，尤其是在處理疾病方面。

When Jed Bartlet developed M s, he initially tried to hide it from the country, but fortunately, Bartlett had another condition.

當Jed Bartlet患上M s後，起初他想瞞著國家，但幸運的是，Bartlett還有另一種情況。

Trump never tested positive for a conscience.

特朗普從來沒有做過良心的測試。

I may not have had sinister intent at the outset, but there were plenty of opportunities for me to make it right.

我也許一開始並沒有險惡的意圖，但有很多機會讓我改正。

No one in government takes responsibility for anything anymore.

政府沒有人再為任何事情負責了。

We foster, we obfuscate, we rationalized, Everybody does it.

我們培養，我們混淆，我們合理化，每個人都這樣做。

That's what we say.

我們就是這麼說的。

So we come to occupy a moral safe house where everyone's to blame.

所以我們來佔領一個道德安全屋，每個人都會受到責備。

So no one's guilty.

所以沒有人有罪。

I am to blame.

都是我的錯。

I was wrong.

我錯了

I was wrong.

我錯了

The only three word combinations you're less likely to hear from Trump are finished.

你不太可能從特朗普口中聽到的只有三個詞組，完了。

My fries.

我的薯條。

Too many Nazis and I love vegetables.

納粹太多，而我喜歡蔬菜。

Well, the truth came out about his M s.

好吧，關於他的M S的真相出來了。

Bartlett was clear that he didn't want anyone to lie on his behalf.

巴特利特很清楚，他不想讓任何人替他撒謊。

If you lied to protect me, if you lie just once, if you lie just little if you lie because you can't stand what's happening to me and the people making it happen.

如果你為了保護我而撒謊 如果你只撒了一次謊 如果你只撒了一點謊... 如果你撒謊是因為你無法忍受發生在我身上的事 和那些讓它發生的人...

If you ever ever lie, you're finished with me.

如果你再敢撒謊，你就跟我玩完了。

You understand.

你明白的。

Trump's version is a little bit different if you lie to protect May.

特朗普的版本有點不一樣，如果你為了保護梅而撒謊。

If you lie just once.

如果你只撒一次謊

If you lie just a little, that's not lying enough.

如果你只撒了一點謊，那就不夠撒謊。

You keep that light, shoot you a chugging and I'll pick you up at Pardon Junction.

你留著那盞燈，給你打一槍，我到赦免路口接你。

Whoa!

哇！

It might be unfair to compare the two presidents, but it's also kind of fun.

比較兩位總統可能不公平，但也是一種樂趣。

For example, when Trump gets angry, he tweets from the toilet.

例如，當特朗普生氣時，他在廁所裡發推文。

When Bartlett got angry, he castigated God in Latin Hate crater on my day, Appeal a day or you store a day Yoshito Kruky, Otto's and Creature tuition.

當巴特利特生氣的時候，他用拉丁文痛罵上帝在我的一天，上訴一天，否則你店一天吉戶克魯基，奧托的和生物學費。

Terror, Sir, was noon.

恐怖，先生，是中午。

Tia's fuII official Perfection.

蒂亞的官方完美。

Gucci.

古奇

Otto's in Christian A Ahsan Kruky.

奧托的在克里斯蒂安-阿赫桑-克魯基。

Um, which God responded?

嗯，哪位大神迴應了？

Take it down a notch, Nerd.

把它降低一個等級，書呆子。

The West Wing wasn't just a romantic vision of the White House.

西翼不僅僅是白宮的浪漫願景。

At times, it was straight up romantic.

有的時候，是直接的浪漫。

We got international tracking polls.

我們有國際跟蹤調查。

Times it's 44.

時代是44歲。

44 were tied.

44個是平局。

We're tied nationally.

我們是全國並列的。

Holy God Way fuel The romantic payoff this White House has given us.

神途燃料 這個白宮給我們的浪漫回報。

Who's when Trump finally Consummated his will there, won't they?

誰是當特朗普終於在那裡完成了他的意志，不是嗎？

With the coronavirus, My heart is beating so fast.

感染了冠狀病毒，我的心臟跳得好快。

Oh, my lungs were working so hard.

哦，我的肺部工作得很辛苦。

This virus really plays easy to get, But enough reminiscing about the West Wing.

這個病毒真的玩的很容易得，不過關於西翼的回憶就不多說了。

Let's talk to the people who made it happen.

讓我們來談談實現這一目標的人。

Joining me Now, 20 years and 26 Emmys later, the cast and creators of the West Wing please welcome Allison Janney, Richard Schiff, Martin Sheen, Aaron Sorkin and Bradley Whitford.

現在，20年和26個艾美獎之後，西翼的演員和主創人員請歡迎艾莉森-詹尼，理查德-希夫，馬丁-希恩，亞倫-索金和布萊德利-惠特福德。

Hey, folks, thanks for being here.

嘿，夥計們，謝謝你們來這裡。

Good to see you, E.

很高興見到你，E.

I'm really happy you're here.

我真的很高興你在這裡。

The one thing that bums me out is that I wish we had the entire live audience of the L.

有一件事讓我很不爽，我希望我們有整個L的現場觀眾。

Sullivan Theater so you could feel the thunderous, roaring applause that you could literally lean against When each of you walked out on stage.

沙利文劇院，所以你能感覺到雷鳴般的，咆哮的掌聲 你可以從字面上靠 當你們每個人走出舞臺。

I could Onley glow it you, but they would actually give you the love you deserve.

我可以Onley發光的你，但他們會真正給你的愛，你值得。

Um, Aaron West Wing fans are giddy that that you put together this West Wing special, but you're being adamant that this is not a re union.

嗯，亞倫西翼的球迷都興高采烈， 你把這個西翼特別， 但你是堅定的，這不是一個重新聯盟。

What?

什麼？

What is What does that mean?

什麼是什麼意思？

That it's not a re union?

這不是一個再聯盟？

That's right.

是的

It's not a reunion show.

這不是一個重聚的節目。

Uh, you know, reunion shows have, ah, certain stigma attached to them that you feel like it's gonna be a very Brady Christmas eso.

呃，你知道，團聚的節目有，啊，一定的汙名附加到他們身上，你覺得這將是一個非常布雷迪的聖誕節eso。

Over the years, I've resisted, uh, the opportunity to do a reunion show.

這些年來，我一直在拒絕，呃，做一個團聚節目的機會。

But this opportunity came along to do something at a crucial time for when we all vote on DSO.

但是這個機會來了，在關鍵時刻，我們大家對DSO進行投票的時候，可以做一些事情。

While it is a group of people coming back together after having not been together for a while, it is not a re union.

雖然是一群人在一段時間沒有在一起後重新走到一起，但這並不是重新聯合。

Uh, it has ah, purpose and what we've done.

呃，它有啊，目的和我們所做的。

Uh, my producing partner on the West Wing, Thomas Salami, was also our principal director.

我在《西翼》裡的製片人搭檔 Thomas Salami 也是我們的首席導演。

He's taking an episode of the show, and he has re staged it as a play.

他把一集的劇情，重新編成了一齣戲。

Haven't changed a word.

一個字也沒改。

He's just re staged.

他只是重新佈置了一下。

The whole thing is a play.

整個事情就是一場戲。

And then we shot that play as if it were in the style of a modern playhouse 90.

然後我們把那部戲拍成了現代戲院90的風格。

So again, not a reunion show.

所以又不是同學會的節目。

It's something else.

這是另一回事。

I don't know what to call it.

我不知道該怎麼稱呼它。

So you guys are in character that we are doing.

所以你們的性格我們是在做。

We are doing episode of the West Bank.

我們正在做西岸的情節。

Sorry.

對不起，我不知道

Go ahead, read.

來吧，讀吧。

No, I was just gonna say we are, however, now doing the Brady opening credits.

不，我只是想說我們正在做，不過，現在正在做布雷迪的片頭。

Thank you.

謝謝你了

Because for a moment there, I really sound like Aaron was talking smack about the Brady Bunch.

因為有那麼一瞬間，我真的聽起來像是亞倫在說布雷迪家族的壞話。

And I'm not gonna sit here and let him run down an American treasure.

我不會坐在這裡讓他毀掉一個美國寶藏。

I'll be honest with you.

我跟你說實話。

I was a little disappointed with the second reunion.

我對第二次團聚有點失望。

The first one out of the park.

第一個出場的。

Okay, The the episode that you are staging, um, is a 2000 and two episode called Hartsfield Landing.

好吧，你正在上演的這一集，嗯，是2000年的兩集，叫《哈茨菲爾德登陸》。

Bradley.

布拉德利。

What's it like returning to the character of Josh after this thing?

這件事之後，回到喬希這個角色是什麼感覺？

Period of time?

時間段？

Oh, my God.

哦，我的上帝。

It was, I think, emotionally, uh, lovely for all of us to go back, You know, there's a little have a little vain fear that people are gonna wondering who the old fisherman playing Josh is, but way love.

我想，在情感上，呃，我們大家都很喜歡回去，你知道，有一個小有一點虛榮心的恐懼，人們會想知道誰是老漁夫扮演喬希，但愛的方式。

Um, uh, I'm not just saying this.

嗯，呃，我不只是說這個。

I really think the key moment that made the cast chemistry come together.

我真的覺得關鍵時刻，讓演員們的化學反應變得很好。

Uh, waas was Martin because we feel such affection and protection for him.

呃，waas是馬丁，因為我們覺得這樣的感情和保護他。

A czar characters Thio.

一個沙皇人物Thio。

It was a little intimidating.

這有點嚇人。

There's a certain pace to Sorkin's writing.

索金的寫作有一定的節奏感。

I don't know if he's aware of that.

我不知道他是否知道這一點。

Um, and you could feel like 1st 2nd, you'd be like, Oh, God, did I lose this?

嗯，你可以感覺像第一第二， 你會想，哦，上帝，我失去了這個？

And then you could see in others when you were You were riding the pace of the words and all of us got to riot errands, writing like a glorious motorcycle on.

然後，你可以在別人身上看到，當你是你在騎著文字的步伐，我們所有的人都得到了暴動跑腿，寫像一個光榮的摩托車上。

It was great to have that feeling again.

能再次擁有這種感覺，真是太好了。

Um, when you guys one of the of course, one of the hallmarks everybody knows about the Sorkin esque.

嗯，當你們其中一個當然，其中一個標誌大家都知道索金的風格。

A writing, if I could use that word, is that there are moments when the character finds exactly the words they would need in that moment.

如果可以用這個詞來形容的話，寫作，就是有的時候，人物在那一瞬間正好找到了自己需要的詞語。

It's a fantasy of having just the right thing to say it exactly the right moment when you were reading throughout the seasons, would you go through and, like, see a full block of text on the page and go?

這是一種幻想，當你在整個季節閱讀的時候，你會不會去翻閱，比如，看到頁面上的一整塊文字，然後就去了，就有了恰到好處的說法？

I have I have one of them This episode Did you guys go through that?

我有，我有一個，這一集你們經歷了嗎？

I did.

我有

Personally, I I lived for those those those moments for C.

就我個人而言，我我為那些那些那些時刻為C而活。

J.

J.

Because I get very nervous.

因為我變得非常緊張。

Public speaking, I don't have a lot of confidence and to be ableto memorize and own errands, words and and make them my own empowered me.

公眾演講，我沒有太多的信心，能夠記住和自己的差事、話語，並讓他們成為我自己的力量，我很有信心。

It was exhilarating to say that even the press briefings I just love sounding like I was the smartest woman in the room, which I you know, all my lovely castmates that everyone knows that I'm I'm I'm not so it was really It was just a thrill.

這是令人振奮的說，即使是新聞發佈會，我只是喜歡聽起來像我是最聰明的女人在房間裡，我，你知道，我所有的可愛的演員，每個人都知道，我是我不是，所以它是真的，這只是一個令人興奮的。

Martin.

馬丁。

I have a question for you from a super fan who was on the show last night.

我有一個超級粉絲的問題要問你，他昨晚在節目中。

It's Mr Jon.

是喬恩先生。

Bon Jovi asked me to ask you this question.

邦喬維讓我問你這個問題。

Who it says, Hey said I'm a Jon Bon Jovi as well.

誰說的，嘿說我也是喬恩-邦喬維。

He said, President Bartlet was my man.

他說，巴特爾總統是我的人。

What's President Bartlet doing in retirement?

巴特萊總統退休後在做什麼？

Yeah, well, the Bartlett is in retirement, but I'm still at it, you know?

是啊，巴特利特已經退休了，但我還在做，你知道嗎？

Uh, Richard?

呃，理查德？

What about what about some of the other characters?

那其他一些角色呢？

Richard, What's Toby doing these days?

理查德，託比最近在做什麼？

What did Toby go onto?

託比去做什麼了？

Dio?

迪奧？

Well, in in the fictional world, I would imagine that Toby would have gotten so apoplectic about the political situation in this country that he would have gone back to a more of a grassroots situation and maybe taken out a specific enemy, say Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

好吧，在虛構的世界裡，我會想象託比會對這個國家的政治局勢感到非常震驚，他會回到更多的基層情況，也許會幹掉一個特定的敵人，比如南卡羅來納州的林賽-格雷厄姆。

He would go down and join and help the candidate.

他要下去參加，幫助候選人。

In this case, Harrison Hey, would go and help one candidate kind of surreptitiously without being visible, kind of in the basement.

在這種情況下，哈里森-海，會在不被人發現的情況下，在地下室那種偷偷摸摸的去幫助一個候選人。

He'd write him speeches and yell in his ear piece during debates.

他會給他寫演講稿，辯論時在他耳邊大喊大叫。

So that s so that we could we could have won victory.

所以，S所以，我們可以 我們可以贏得勝利。

He would.

他會的

He would be focusing on one important victory, I think.

我想，他應該會專注於一場重要的勝利。

Well, Toby was a speechwriter.

託比是個演講稿撰寫者。

Aaron, as a writer yourself.

亞倫，作為一個作家自己。

How What do you think of the plot of the year 2020?

2020年的劇情你怎麼看？

Because every so often I just want to yell.

因為每隔一段時間，我就想大喊大叫。

Okay, 2020.

好吧，2020年。

That's a little too on the nose.

這也太誇張了吧。

That's a that's a That's a little too much, really.

The person who is spreading the coronavirus is named Hope.

傳播冠狀病毒的人叫希望。

Why?

為什麼？

Why did you Why did you name the character?

你為什麼要給這個角色起名字？

Hope 2020 jumped the shark a long while ago.

希望2020年早就跳槽了。

But I think that the problem in terms of writing it, you know, writer is gonna have plenty to write about thes thes last four or five years.

但我認為，在寫作方面的問題，你知道，作家是要去有很多寫關於過去的四五年。

But I think that you will very seldom see Donald Trump as an onstage or onscreen character.

但我認為，你很少會看到唐納德-特朗普作為一個舞臺上或螢幕上的角色。

He'll be off stage.

他將下臺。

He'll be a news footage because he's implausible and, in fact, the one place right now where you see him as a character.

他會成為一個新聞素材，因為他不可理喻，事實上，現在你看到他的一個地方就是一個角色。

Steven is on your show.

史蒂文上了你的節目

It is on our cartoon president, which is by far the most generous portrayal of Donald Trump I've ever seen.

這是在我們的卡通總統身上，這是我迄今為止看到的對唐納德-特朗普最慷慨的描述。

Yes, because in every episode he does what a TV character does.

是的，因為在每一集裡，他都會做一個電視角色所做的事情。

He changes.

他改變了。

By the end of the episode, Hey, learned something by the end of the episode, that is, the hardest thing about Donald Trump is a character is how can you play a man who doesn't change it all.

到了最後，嘿，學到了一些東西，那就是唐納德-特朗普這個角色最難的地方就是你怎麼能演一個不改變一切的人。

That's right.

是的

You can't.

你不能這樣做

You can have a bad guy.

你可以有一個壞傢伙。

You can have a good guy.

你可以有一個好人。

But there's no such thing as an interesting character who doesn't have a conscience E country, except on your show, where you kinda like him.

但沒有一個有趣的人物沒有良心的E國，除了在你的節目中，你還挺喜歡他。

Hey, kind of like George Stein.

嘿，有點像喬治-斯坦恩。

Kinda like George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld.

就像George Steinbrenner在Seinfeld上的表現。

It always be off camera and the voice that's exactly right.

它總是在鏡頭之外，聲音那是完全正確的。

Yeah, Larry David, voice something.

是啊，拉里-戴維，聲音什麼的。

We'll just see the back of his head.

我們只看他的後腦勺。

I think if there is a God, yes, she's a terrible writer uh, she can't even pick a genre.

我想如果有上帝的話，是的，她是一個糟糕的作家呃，她甚至不能選擇一個類型。

I don't believe the beginning.

我不相信開頭。

The second act goes on forever, and the ending is terrible.

第二幕一直持續下去，結局很糟糕。

We don't know the ending yet.

我們還不知道結局。

2020 Could could end on a high note.

2020年可能會高調結束。

Please, everybody breathe.

請大家深呼吸。

It might well be right back with more.

它很可能馬上就會帶著更多的東西回來。

Allison Janney, Richard Schiff, Martin Sheen, Aaron Sorkin and Bradley Whitford stick around.

艾莉森-詹尼、理查德-希夫、馬丁-希恩、亞倫-索金和布拉德利-惠特福德都會留在這裡。