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  • the route to Chile's referendum went through this subway station.

    智利公投的路線經過這個地鐵站。

  • Students mostly pro testing a rise in fares.

    學生大多親測票價上漲。

  • Ah, heavy handed response from security personnel lead to stunning scenes of mass protests in the streets of Santiago and other Chilean cities.

    啊,安全人員的重拳應對導致聖地亞哥和智利其他城市街頭出現大規模抗議的驚人場面。

  • Dozens died during riots, arson and looting that caused extensive damage and prompted a military presence on the streets.

    在騷亂、縱火和搶劫中,數十人死亡,造成了廣泛的破壞,並促使軍隊在街頭駐紮。

  • Okay, but the peaceful protesters persevered, calling for an overhaul of Chile's social and economic model and gaining a key demand.

    好吧,但和平抗議者堅持不懈,呼籲徹底改革智利的社會和經濟模式,並獲得了一個關鍵的要求。

  • Ah, vote on whether to toss out the old Magna Carta, the constitution adopted during the brutal 17 year dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet, which ended in 1990 a period when thousands were tortured, killed or they were disappeared.

    啊,投票決定是否廢除舊的《大憲章》,這是奧古斯托-皮諾切特將軍17年殘暴獨裁期間通過的憲法,1990年結束時,成千上萬的人遭受酷刑、被殺或失蹤。

  • This'll be a historic event.

    這將是一個歷史性的事件。

  • For the first time in the history of the republic, we will be consulted on whether or not we want a new constitution and who should draft it, Director.

    共和國曆史上第一次徵求我們的意見,是否要制定新憲法,由誰來起草,主任。

  • The subway stations were cleaned up after the demonstrations and rioting a year ago, but emotions have been peeking again.

    在一年前的示威和騷亂之後,地鐵站被清理得乾乾淨淨,但情緒又開始氾濫。

  • Peaceful anti government demonstrations last Sunday were marred by the burning of two churches Vandals cheering the collapse of a church spire, not what those promoting a yes vote on a change to the constitution, want their protests to be remembered for.

    上週日的和平反政府示威遊行因兩座教堂被燒燬而受到破壞 破壞者歡呼教堂尖塔的倒塌,這不是那些促進對憲法修改投贊成票的人希望他們的抗議活動被記住的原因。

  • We're not seeing any change.

    我們沒有看到任何變化。

  • Healthcare is the same pensions.

    醫療保健是一樣的養老金。

  • That's what we're fighting for for more than a year.

    這就是我們爭取了一年多的時間。

  • Our pensions or wages or education, everything.

    我們的養老金或工資或教育,一切。

  • But I don't see any change.

    但我沒看到任何變化。

  • After a year of the social upheaval, I am out in the street because I want changes to our health system.

    在經歷了一年的社會動盪之後,我出街了,因為我想改變我們的醫療制度。

  • On the other side, thousands have hit the streets to protest against change.

    另一邊,成千上萬的人上街抗議改變。

  • No, they say toe a rewrite of the constitution by shifting to a new constitution were in great danger of falling into something like what happened to Venezuela.

    不,他們說要重寫憲法,轉而制定新的憲法,有很大的危險,會陷入像委內瑞拉那樣的情況。

  • If it happened to Venezuela, why wouldn't happen to us?

    如果它發生在委內瑞拉,為什麼不會發生在我們身上?

  • We'll keep the same constitution and make the necessary reforms to it.

    我們將保持憲法不變,並對其進行必要的改革。

  • No voters insist the government working within the present constitution will help those left behind since the Magna Carta was adopted.

    沒有選民堅持認為,在現行憲法範圍內工作的政府將幫助那些自《大憲章》通過以來留下的人。

  • Yes, voters say, start from scratch with the participation of the people and let the world see what Chilean democracy to looks like.

    是的,選民們說,從零開始,人民的參與,讓世界看到智利民主的樣子。

  • Body W's Johan Ramirez joins us from the Chilean capital, Santiago Johan.

    Body W的Johan Ramirez從智利首都聖地亞哥Johan為我們做客。

  • What's at stake in this referendum tomorrow Chile will define whether or not they want to have a new constitution on Also, they will choose through which mechanism they want.

    明天這場公投的利害關係是什麼 智利將確定他們是否要有一部新憲法,同時,他們將選擇通過哪種機制。

  • This new constitution to be drafted.

    這部新憲法的起草。

  • Uh, more than 15 million people are called Thio Vote tomorrow after ah, year off massive protests that have been held in the same place The place Italian Italy Square That has been the main hot spot after protests today.

    呃,超過1500萬人被稱為Thio Vote明天后啊,年關大規模的抗議活動,一直在同一個地方舉行的地方意大利廣場這一直是抗議活動後的主要熱點今天。

  • It was very calm during the day and now as the evening con, uh, we have seen some people protesting against the police, Some people throwing rocks against the police on the police and military is moving around to prevent any clash in this day, just Ah, few hours before the referendum take place here in initially now a.

    這是非常平靜的一天,現在作為晚上con,呃,我們已經看到了一些人抗議警察,一些人扔石頭反對警察對警察和軍事是移動周圍,以防止任何衝突在這一天,只是啊,幾個小時前公投發生在這裡最初現在一個。

  • Your referendum has been one of the key demands from the protesters.

    你的公投一直是抗議者的重要要求之一。

  • Why are they so opposed to the current one?

    為什麼他們如此反對現在的?

  • One of the main critics that people do against this constitution is the legitimacy off the origin off the Constitution.

    人們對這部憲法的主要責備之一是憲法起源的合法性。

  • It was written during the dictatorship off Agusto Pinochet more than 30 years ago.

    它是30多年前奧古斯托-皮諾切特獨裁時期寫的。

  • It was written for people who was not choose shows by the people in electoral event.

    它是寫給那些在選舉活動中沒有被人們選擇的人的。

  • Uh, in a time where there were not free press, the international observers.

    呃,在一個沒有新聞自由的時代,國際觀察員。

  • So it's, ah, legacy off the dictatorship on there are many things, many public policies that cannot be taken.

    所以它的,啊,遺留關專制上有很多東西,很多公共政策是不能採取的。

  • They cannot take place because off this constitution.

    因為這個憲法,他們不能進行。

  • So the main social changes that need Chile are in a way blocked because of this constitution.

    所以,智利需要的主要社會變革在某種程度上因為這部憲法而被阻斷。

  • Now, if Chileans vote in favor off the new constitution on Sunday, are we likely to see an end to the anger?

    現在,如果智利人在週日投票贊成新憲法,我們有可能看到憤怒的結束嗎?

  • It doesn't look like.

    它看起來不像。

  • I mean, there are many problems like ground problems in Chile.

    我的意思是,有很多問題,比如智利的地面問題。

  • There are beyond this Constitution.

    在本憲法之外,還有。

  • I mean, Chile needs really, uh, important public policies to change the health system.

    我是說,智利需要真正的,呃,重要的公共政策來改變衛生系統。

  • Uh, many other things.

    呃,許多其他的事情。

  • Education, uh, for all people on these things cannot be changed just because off a boat is a first step.

    教育,呃,所有的人對這些事情的教育,不能因為下船是第一步就改變。

  • But it will change the framework off the state.

    但它會改變國家的框架。

  • But the the hurt off the problems are public policies.

    但問題的傷害是公共政策。

  • For that we need also the will off politicians on as I tell you right now, we will listen already the clashes people throwing rocks against the police on we we felt already a little bit the pepper gas that maybe the police are start moving around because the vote tomorrow is very important.

    為此,我們還需要政治家的意志,就像我現在告訴你的那樣,我們會聽到已經發生的衝突,人們對警察扔石頭,我們我們已經感覺到了一點胡椒氣體,也許警察開始移動,因為明天的投票是非常重要的。

  • But it won't change the main problems off the country.

    但它不會改變國家的主要問題。

  • No, from one day to another.

    不,從一天到另一天。

  • Thank you, Johann.

    謝謝你,約翰

  • Johann Ramirez there in Santiago.

    約翰-拉米雷斯在聖地亞哥。

the route to Chile's referendum went through this subway station.

智利公投的路線經過這個地鐵站。

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