This is gonna be the thread through the whole thing, okay.

這將是整個事情的線索，好嗎。

I thought you were reading this book.

我以為你在看這本書

Please welcome Jay Larson.

請歡迎傑伊-拉森。

Jay how are you?

傑伊，你好嗎？

[Jay] I'm great.

我很好

I didn't know if Austin was done dropping any more credits,

我不知道奧斯汀是否已經完成了放棄更多的學分。

you know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

He's gonna pop up as a picture in picture,

他要以畫中畫的形式出現了。

like when they play, you know, the less important game,

就像他們玩的時候，你知道，不太重要的遊戲。

that's a blowout

泡湯

and he's gonna be just dropping credits in there.

他要去只是下降學分在那裡。

'Cause he's booking things as we speak.

因為在我們說話的時候他就已經在預訂了。

He just booked right now.

他現在剛定下來。

Are you working?

你在工作嗎？

Are you staying busy? Oh yeah look at this.

你在忙嗎？哦，是的，看看這個。

[Jay] I saw you asked Austin if he's done any commercials,

我看到你問奧斯汀有沒有拍過廣告 I saw you asked Austin if he's done any commercials,

I directed a commercial during this whole thing.

在這期間，我導演了一個廣告。

Yeah, and then just for future reference,

是啊，然後只是為了將來參考。

if you could take all

如果你能把所有

of your questions based off of Austin credits,

你的問題是基於奧斯汀學分的。

it's gonna help us do a great thread for the show.

它會幫助我們做一個偉大的線程 為展會。

[Jay] That's you know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

I like unity and concise.

我喜歡統一和簡潔。

Yeah, okay.

是啊，好吧。

So you directed a commercial pandemic wise,

所以，你導演了一場商業大潮的智慧。

which is it's already difficult enough to do a commercial

這是它已經足夠困難，做一個廣告

cause it's a hodgepodge crew.

因為這是一個大雜燴的團隊。

People that have not worked together.

沒有一起工作過的人。

[Jay] Yeah.

[傑伊]是的。

Are we, are you doing this remotely

我們是，你是在做這個遠程

Or are you onset?

還是你在發病？

No, we did on set, we did two days.

不，我們在片場做了，我們做了兩天。

One day on set in a church

有一天，在教堂裡拍攝

and then another day out at a golf course.

然後再去高爾夫球場玩一天。

Are you getting rapid tested before

你是否在做快速測試之前

or are they just winging it?

還是他們只是即興發揮？

Got tested day before we had someone on set.

被測試的前一天，我們有一個人的設置。

You got your temp checked three times throughout the day.

你一天中檢查了三次溫度。

Everyone's in masks, social distance,

大家都戴著面具，社會距離。

masks off for shooting.

摘下面具進行拍攝。

But you're in a mask the whole time?

但你一直戴著面具？

Yeah.

是啊。

How does that work, cause you like to,

那是怎麼做到的，因為你喜歡。

when you direct you like to scream an actor's faces.

當你指揮你喜歡尖叫的演員的臉。

[Jay] I get in people's faces big time, bro.

我在人們的臉上得到了很大的時間，兄弟。

You have a breakfast so you're, you're on your game.

你有一個早餐，所以你，你在你的遊戲。

Don't eat my raisins.

不要吃我的葡萄乾。

[Jay] Get away from craft, sir.

遠離飛船，先生。

Kevin Nealan was our lead.

凱文-尼蘭是我們的主角

And so like, I have such respect for Kevin Nealon,

所以喜歡，我有這樣的尊重 凱文・尼倫。

like trying to give direction, I'd be like,

像試圖給方向，我會像，

Hey Kevin, what if we, and he's like,

嘿，凱文，如果我們，他是這樣的：

Oh yeah, you're gonna love this.

哦，是的，你會喜歡這個。

You're going to love what I do here.

你會喜歡我在這裡做的事情的。

And then everyone would just be laughing,

然後大家就會哈哈大笑。

you're like, yeah, yeah, let's let's move on.

你喜歡，是啊，是啊， 讓我們讓我們繼續前進。

Don't got to do anything.

什麼都不用做

Yeah it was great.

是啊，這是偉大的。

Are you going to do more of those or was it such a weird

你是要做更多的這些，還是這樣一個奇怪的

experience or was just like,

經歷或只是像。

let's just wait or you like work?

讓我們只是等待或你喜歡的工作？

[Jay] I had no problem with it.

我沒有問題。

I'm on a, I write on a show

我在做，我在寫一個節目。

and I wrote and directed five sketches for

我還自編自導了五部草圖，為

the show during the pandemic as well.

疫期間的表演以及。

I think if everyone is just cautious and you're smart

我想，如果大家都只是小心翼翼，而你又很聰明的話

and you're safe.

你就安全了

I mean, you're seeing commercials with people in masks,

我的意思是，你看到的廣告 與人在面具。

so clearly they're making content or shooting commercials

所以，很明顯，他們正在做的內容或拍攝的廣告

during Covid, you know what I mean?

在Covid期間，你知道我的意思嗎？

Unless Jeep grand Cherokee knew about this and they

除非Jeep大切諾基知道這一點，他們

released the virus.

釋放了病毒。

Are they behind it?

是他們在背後搞鬼嗎？

Is this something Lee Iacocca, you know,

這是李艾科卡的東西，你知道的。

was ahead of the game on,

是領先的遊戲上。

I know that might be an old school reference for you and

我知道這對你來說可能是個老派的參考資料，而且...

maybe some of the audience,

也許有些觀眾。

but I'm educated and I'm informed,

但我受過教育，我是知情的。

you know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Yeah, you're informed.

是的，你是知情的。

It is, it does change the relationship onset a little bit.

是的，它確實改變了一點關係的發作。

It's a little less collaborative and that everyone's afraid

協作性比較差，大家都很害怕

of each other.

彼此的。

And also the writing room can be weird.

而且寫作室也會很奇怪。

I've been in some writing rooms now where you don't know if

我現在一直在一些寫作室，你不知道如果

your joke that pitch bombed

你的笑話，投擲炸彈

or it's zoom bombed and it just crashed.

或它的變焦轟炸，它只是崩潰。

[Jay] Yeah, or there was just a delay.

是的，或者只是延遲了一下。

What if it, it crushed?

如果它，它粉碎了呢？

But the delay was so long, you missed the tire response.

但耽誤的時間太長了，你錯過了輪胎的反應。

Yeah, and then you already back out,

是啊，然後你已經退出了。

like if someone pitches a joke, it's like, oh yeah,

就像如果有人投擲一個笑話， 它的樣子，哦，是的。

so then he fills up the back of the truck with a bunch of

所以，然後他填補了卡車的後面 一堆的

toasters and then that falls.

烤麵包機，然後這就倒下了。

But yeah, I don't think we have the budget for that.

但是，是的，我不認為我們有預算的。

So we'll just, yeah, we'll move on.

所以，我們只是，是的，我們將繼續前進。

[Jay] Yeah, well we can, we can rip on the guys maybe,

是的，我們可以，我們可以對這些人開罵，也許。

maybe later.

也許以後。

Yeah, I'm in a writer's room,

是的，我在一個作家的房間裡。

I have been the entire pandemic and it's like crazy.

我一直是整個大流行，就像瘋了一樣。

We have some people in Florida and some people in LA.

我們有一些人在佛羅里達州，有一些人在洛杉磯。

So we were, you know,

所以我們是，你知道的。

like working out times and just making it work.

就像鍛鍊時間，只是讓它工作。

You just get so comfortable on zoom,

你就這麼舒服的變焦。

just being like, well,

只是被喜歡，好了，

let's just make it work.

讓我們只是讓它工作。

I think moving forward,

我覺得往前走。

industry-wise writer's room and even

業內的作家室，甚至

some sets will be a little bit more remote because we've

有的地方會比較偏僻，因為我們已經。

proved that it can be done.

證明了這是可以做到的。

[Jay] I hope not. I hope that listen,

我希望不是我希望聽。

I'm all about being safe and we've been like completely safe

我是關於安全的，我們已經像完全安全。

with our kids and like groceries.

與我們的孩子和喜歡的雜貨。

I haven't eaten out anywhere,

我還沒在外面吃過飯呢

but I also believe that like when we get control-

但我也相信，就像當我們得到控制，

I say DJ Khalid, yeah.

我說DJ Khalid，是的。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Once we get control of this,

一旦我們控制了這個。

that we should,

我們應該。

writer's room you need to be next to people,

作家的房間，你需要挨著人。

with people, riffing,

與人，扯皮。

like getting a sense for them seeing them, like that's like,

就像讓他們看到他們的感覺，就像，就像。

there's such a,

有這樣的

it's such a part of the creative process that I think like,

這是創作過程中的一部分，我認為像。

I hope maybe there will be some rooms that will,

我希望也許會有一些房間會。

I think we should use it as like an advantage to be able to

我覺得我們應該把它當作一種優勢，能夠做到。

be remote if someone needs to be.

如果有人需要的話，可以遙控。

But otherwise I think being in a room together,

但除此之外，我認為在一個房間裡一起。

like really benefits the writing.

像真的有利於寫作。

Yeah, absolutely.

是的，絕對的。

Because it is an energy thing where you need to throw out a

因為它是一個能量的東西，你需要拋出一個。

bunch of bad ideas to get to the good one.

一堆壞點子，才能得到好點子。

And you can only really feel safe

你才能真正感到安全

doing that when everyone's doing that,

做的時候，每個人都在做的。

and you're all in the same room and you can pick up on

你都在同一個房間裡，你可以拿起在。

certain social cues,

一定的社會線索。

like you'll read comments with this,

像你會看評論與此。

I could live habits like, Oh, this podcast boring.

我可以生活習慣，比如，哦，這個播客無聊。

And it's like, well,

這就像，好。

it's just different than being on stage having to

這只是不同的比在舞臺上有

deal with this delay.

處理這種延遲。

I also think when you're in a zoom room,

我也認為，當你在變焦室。

you're constantly like the clock is constantly ticking.

你不斷地像時鐘 不斷地滴答作響。

Like when is this ending?

比如什麼時候結束？

Whereas when you're in the writer's room,

而當你在作家的房間裡。

so you might just like accept joke because you're like,

所以你可能只是喜歡接受笑話，因為你喜歡，

well, this thing has got to end some point.

好了，這件事已經得到了結束一些點。

Let's just get that joke done.

我們還是把這個笑話講完吧。

Whereas in a writer's room you could like be like,

而在作家的房間裡，你可以像。

all right, let's just wait on that.

好吧，讓我們只是等待在這一點。

Let's go work on this. And like, oh dude! You know?

讓我們去工作。和喜歡，哦，夥計！你知道嗎？

How are you handling it with kids?

你是如何處理與孩子？

Are you homeschooling?

你是在家庭教育嗎？

You're supervising homeschooling.

你在監督家庭教育。

I'm not a big,

我不是一個大。

I don't want my six and a half year old on three hours of

我不想讓我六歲半的孩子吃三個小時的飯。

zoom call.

縮放調用。

So we de-enrolled them from school

所以我們就把他們從學校退學了

and set up our home as a homeschool,

並把我們的家佈置成了一個家庭學校。

and then we hired a teacher,

然後我們僱了一個老師。

that we like went through the COVID process with.

我們喜歡通過COVID程序與。

So now she like every day nine to two is with my kids,

所以現在她就像每天朝九晚五的和我的孩子在一起。

and like they do project based learning activities,

並像他們一樣開展項目式學習活動。

learning.

學習。

They do field trips, you know,

他們做實地考察，你知道的。

it's a lot more organic and a higher engagement level

它是一個更有機的和更高的參與水準。

than zoom.

比變焦。

So you hired, so your essentially a principal.

所以你僱了人，所以你本質上是個校長。

Yeah, I'm VP, my wife got the principal.

是啊，我是副總，我老婆當了校長。

I mean, it's not a big deal.

我的意思是，這不是一個大問題。

It's not a huge deal.

這不是什麼大問題。

Seem really upset about it.

似乎真的很不爽。

[Jay] It hasn't been a thing, dude.

這不是什麼事，夥計。

It hasn't come up. It hasn't been an issue.

它還沒有出現。這不是一個問題。

I'm not saying I have better credentials or whatever,

我不是說我有更好的資歷或者什麼。

You know what I mean?

你知道我的意思嗎？

Do you have the same power as your,

你是否有和你一樣的力量。

your wife as the principal.

你的妻子是校長。

[Jay] Don't, you know, the structure of the principal,

[傑伊]不要，你知道，校長的結構。

vice principal?

副校長？

I'm the fun guy.

我是個有趣的人。

Vice-principal kind of seems like, lunch is over,

副校長有點像，午餐結束了。

you know, kind of serve at the lunch room

你知道，那種服務在午餐室

and then you're back in.

然後你就回來了。

[Jay] Yeah, that sounds right.

是啊，聽起來不錯。

That's kind of, that's pretty accurate.

這是一種，這是非常準確的。

You move everyone's cars when the car needs to back out.

當車需要退後時，你把大家的車移走。

[Jay] You gotta move cars, you know.

你得移動汽車，你知道的。

Hopefully you'll get a promotion,

希望你能得到提升。

So it's also on you to kind of keep the kids busy.

所以，也要靠你有點讓孩子們忙起來。

I saw you're building stuff,

我看到你在造東西

You built a whole science experiment table outside.

你在外面建了一個完整的科學實驗臺。

I just love being interactive with my kids,

我就是喜歡和孩子們互動。

and so we built a science table.

於是我們建了一張科學桌。

I built them a Lego table.

我給他們做了一張樂高桌。

I like doing adventures with them.

我喜歡和他們一起做冒險。

Like when the whole thing started,

就像當整個事情開始。

my job was like the first two weeks of COVID,

我的工作就像前兩個星期的COVID。

they were like, let's just be loose.

他們很喜歡，讓我們只是寬鬆。

And the kids were out of school,

而且孩子們都放學了。

so like, I would take them on hikes

所以，我喜歡，我會帶他們在遠足。

and then find a picnic table,

然後找一張野餐桌。

and we'd like collect leaves and turn them into projects.

我們想收集樹葉，把它們變成項目。

I just liked that idea, of like constantly making learning

我只是喜歡這個想法，像不斷使學習

a fun experience, you know?

一個有趣的經驗，你知道嗎？

Yeah, it's a great time to be picking up leaves

是啊，現在是撿樹葉的好時候啊。

and anything you find on the street right now.

還有你現在在街上找到的任何東西。

You know, like, what is that bacteria?

你知道，像，那是什麼細菌？

What better way to learn about COVID?

有什麼更好的方式來了解COVID？

Getting COVID.

獲得COVID。

I think your kids are gonna find the vaccine,

我想你的孩子會找到疫苗的。

on one of your leaf trips,

在你的一次葉子旅行中。

which is actually them just cleaning the yard.

這其實是他們只是打掃院子。

Listen, when you say leaf trip,

聽著，當你說葉子旅行。

it almost sounds like you're de-valuing it.

這幾乎聽起來像是你在貶低它的價值。

No, it sounds like I actually want to go on it.

不，這聽起來像是我真的想去的。

It sounds like you're a great dad and talking to you,

聽起來你是個好爸爸，和你說話。

makes me wish I had a great dad,

讓我希望我有一個偉大的父親。

because it sounds, it sounds fun.

因為這聽起來，這聽起來很有趣。

It is fun. Yeah.

這很有趣。對啊

It is very fun. They're fun.

這是非常有趣的。他們很有趣。

They're wild kids. So they, they, they take to it.

他們是野孩子。所以，他們，他們，他們把它。

What else have you been doing to keep them busy?

你還做了什麼讓他們忙起來？

You've been showing them movies?

你給他們看電影了？

No.

不知道

Not at all.

一點也不。

[Jay] You know, what I did is I've been doing, like,

你知道，我所做的是我一直在做，就像。

we did this field trip to the beach.

我們做了這個實地考察的海灘。

We went to the beach with like my buddy and his kids,

我們去了海灘，像我的哥們和他的孩子。

but we've been watching Goonies.

但我們一直在看 "傻子"。

Are you a Goonies fan?

你是Goonies的粉絲嗎？

I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of movies growing up.

我在成長過程中不允許看很多電影。

Like I thought Star Wars was the most boring movie,

就像我覺得《星球大戰》是最無聊的電影一樣。

Cause my parents had edited all the violent parts out.

因為我的父母把所有暴力的部分都刪掉了。

So it's just a movie,

所以這只是一部電影。

a bunch of people talking

眾口一詞

and then a brown bathrobe falls on the ground.

然後一件棕色的浴袍掉在地上。

Totally sucks.

完全爛透了。

No, I have, I've seen clips of it,

不，我有，我看過它的片段。

but I haven't seen the entirety of the movie.

但我還沒看完整部電影。

[Jay] Yeah, well Goonies, Goonies is, you know,

是啊 傻子 傻子是 你知道的 Yeah, well Goonies, Goonies is, you know,

it's Spielberg dude.