And obviously all the story lines would be about LeBron.

而顯然所有的故事線都會是關於勒布朗的。

But let's look at it instead of individually from his perspective, making his 10th finals, trying to get one over on Riley, who tossed the rings on the table to bring him to South Beach in the first place.

但我們不單獨從他的角度去看，而是從他的角度去看，進入第10次總決賽，想在萊利身上拿到一個冠軍，當初是萊利把戒指扔在桌子上，把他帶到了南灘。

We'll talk about that when it gets there.

等到了那裡我們再談這個問題。

I'm feeling we might spend a couple minutes on that if that's the Finals.

我感覺如果那是總決賽的話，我們可能會花上幾分鐘的時間。

But let's talk collectively the Heat strategy with what they've been able to do.

但我們還是來集體聊聊熱火的戰略與他們的能力。

Jay Will and you are both in lockstep that the strategy put forth by head coach Eric Spoelstra isas good as anybody's put forth in the n b A.

傑伊-威爾和你都一致認為主教練埃裡克-斯波爾斯特拉提出的戰略是好的，因為任何人的提出在N B A。

This season against the sheer talent that Los Angeles brings to the table when those to meet the strategy of the Heat but the overall balling ability of the Lakers.

本賽季對洛杉磯帶來的純粹的天賦，當那些要滿足熱火的策略，但湖人的整體球商能力。

How do you see?

你怎麼看？

You would certainly think that they would be overmatched just based on the talent that the Lakers have.

你當然會認為，僅憑湖人隊的天賦，他們就會被高估。

But Eric Poster has done a terrific job, given the fact that he has young up and coming talent with really on Lee that I could think of riel deep playoff experience would be Iguodala outside of that, and he's not much of a factor.

但埃裡克-波斯特做得非常出色，鑑於他有年輕的新興人才與真正的上李，我可以認為里爾深的季後賽經驗將是伊戈達拉之外，他的因素不多。

And he's not much of a factor right now.

而且他現在也不是什麼重要的因素。

But he could give some locker room leadership kind of, you know, be that extra coach on the floor at times when he needs to be, um and yeah, like s o.

但他可以給一些更衣室的領導力那種，你知道，是額外的教練在地板上的時候，他需要，嗯，是的，像S O。

You got Jimmy Butler there.

你把吉米-巴特勒抓來了

Bam is there.

班姆在那裡。

And then, obviously, uh, Tyler hero who had a big night last night, is coming off the bench.

然後，很明顯，呃，泰勒英雄 誰有一個偉大的夜晚， 下來的板凳。

So when you start toe Duncan Robinson, when you start to look at the youth in them not knowing any better, that could be dangerous.

所以當你開始關注鄧肯-羅賓遜的時候，當你開始關注他們身上的年輕人不知道更好的時候，這可能是危險的。

They could just go out there and just play and not, you know, the moment won't be too big for him.

他們可以只是去那裡，只是玩，而不是，你知道，這一刻不會太大，他。

A lot of pressure would be on the Lakers for a number of reasons.

湖人隊的壓力會很大，原因有很多。

Um, you know, pressure on LeBron to get the 10th to bring the 17th to L.

嗯，你知道，勒布朗的壓力，讓他得到第10個，把第17個帶到L。

A.

A.

The Kobe Bryant factor.

科比-布萊恩特的因素。

The pandemic factor, What we living in the country today?

疫情因素，我們今天生活在國內的是什麼？

All of those things could be a lot of pressure.

這些東西都可能是一個很大的壓力。

He's carried weight on his shoulders before.

他以前也曾肩負重任。

Ah, but I think that the talent supersedes that.

啊，但我認為，天賦高於一切。

That that the Lakers have could supersede the young talent that Miami has in Miami shouldn't be shy about it at all.

湖人隊的那點本事可以超越邁阿密的年輕天才，邁阿密根本不應該害羞。

Whatsoever.

什麼的。

Erik Spoelstra would be the X factor in all of this to get them to continue to buy in, continue to play the way that they're supposed to.

埃裡克-斯波爾斯特拉將是這一切的X因素，讓他們繼續買賬，繼續按照他們應該的方式打球。

If you go to an X and o standpoint, one of the things that the Lakers have got to be careful in is worrying about the three point shot getting caught up trying to play that game with Miami.

如果從X和O的角度來看，湖人隊必須要小心的一件事就是擔心三分球被抓，想和邁阿密打那場比賽。

Don't play that game with them.

不要和他們玩這個遊戲。

Make sure that you utilize a D download and you get more than four boards from the bigs at all times, all three of them.

確保你利用的是D下載，而且你在任何時候都能從大戶那裡得到四個以上的板塊，三個板塊都有。

Whether it's whether JaVale, McGee, Dwight Howard are Anthony Davis.

無論是賈維爾、麥基、德懷特-霍華德都是安東尼-戴維斯。

If Anthony Davis doesn't wanna play the five, sometimes you make him play the five, and that's how they beat them.

如果安東尼-戴維斯不想打五號位，有時候你就讓他打五號位，這就是他們擊敗他們的方法。

We've got a comment on the Heat and a question for you about the Lakers, but first I want to remind you Keyshawn J.

我們有一個關於熱火隊的評論和一個關於湖人隊的問題，但首先我想提醒你Keyshawn J。

Willens Zubin.

Willens Zubin.

It's all about ESPN audio at home.

都是家裡的ESPN音頻。

The your smart speaker ESPN Audio at home brought to you by Mercedes Benz vans driving Mercedes Benz van and find out how far in extra mile really goes from customization and service to financial assistance.

你的智能音箱ESPN音響在家為你帶來的奔馳麵包車駕駛奔馳麵包車，看看從定製、服務到金融援助，額外里程到底有多遠。

Mercedes Benz vans are ready for anything, and we'll be ready for some NFL talk with Damien Woody coming up in 10 minutes.

奔馳車已經做好了一切準備，我們將在10分鐘後與達米安-伍迪進行NFL談話。

I know there's a lot of NBA fans out there, but it's dwarfed by the football fandom in this country.

我知道外面有很多NBA球迷，但和國內的足球迷相比，就相形見絀了。

And if you want to talk football, hang tight.

如果你想談足球，請加快腳步。

We'll be with Damien Woody here in 10 minutes.

10分鐘後我們將和達米安-伍迪在一起。

Quick comment On the Heat, all the attention went to John Durant.

快評 關於熱火隊，所有的關注點都在約翰-杜蘭特身上。

All of the attention went to Zion Williamson in terms of rookies, but the Heat have a young kid named Kendrick Nunn.

在新秀方面，所有的注意力都放在了錫安-威廉姆森身上，但熱火隊有一個叫肯德里克-納恩的年輕孩子。

A lot of people don't talk about just another example to your point of the heat.

很多人不談只是另一個例子，你的熱度點。

Finding young guys is he could be a difference maker, I don't know, but when I watched the Nuggets play the Lakers, they seem to have a lot of second unit guys that every night or so could do something, whether it's Gary Harris, whether it's Jeremy Grant, whoever it is and the Heat have a lot of those guys underneath the surface that for one night can really step up.

找到年輕人是他可以成為一個不同的人，我不知道，但是當我看掘金隊和湖人隊比賽的時候，他們似乎有很多第二單元的人，每一個晚上左右都可以做一些事情，無論是加里-哈里斯，無論是傑里米-格蘭特，無論是誰，而熱火隊在表面之下有很多這樣的人，一個晚上真的可以站出來。

Here's my question.

我的問題是：

They said this about a Rod forever.

他們永遠這樣說羅德。

Was he a true Yankee?

他是一個真正的美國佬嗎？

Right.

好吧，我知道了

He came over.

他過來了。

Was he a true Yankee?

他是一個真正的美國佬嗎？

You get that world, Siri's, you can call yourself a true Yankee.

你得到那個世界，Siri的，你可以稱得上是一個真正的美國佬。

LeBron is a true cab.

勒布朗是一個真正的計程車。

I think he's a true member of the Heat.

我認為他是熱隊的真正成員。

Multiple titles.

多個標題。

But there had always been from a lot of L.

但一向有從很多L。

A fans and key.

A風扇和鑰匙。

You're one of the biggest Laker fans I know.

你是我所知道的最大的湖人球迷之一。

At what point does LeBron become a true Laker?

勒布朗在什麼時候才能成為真正的湖人？

So let me take you back a minute.

所以，讓我帶你回去一分鐘。

Um, a year ago, when LeBron conversation even two years ago when LeBron conversation started always gonna be a free agent, he's gonna come to L.

嗯，一年前，當勒布朗談話甚至兩年前 當勒布朗談話開始 總是會成為一個自由球員，他會來L。

A.

A.

I was totally 100% against it against again.

我完全是100%的反對再反對。

I didn't want to stay your but in Cleveland, I don't want you.

我不想留下你的... ...但在克利夫蘭，我不想要你。

You're not one of us, right?

你不是我們中的一員，對嗎？

That was it.

就是這樣。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

I didn't want him because I was still in love with Kobe Bryant.

我不想要他，因為我還愛著科比-布萊恩特。

So it was like, No, no matter what he does, it's not gonna work.

所以我就想，不，不管他做什麼，都不會成功。

I don't want him.

我不想要他

I don't want him.

我不想要他

So as we got closer and further away from Kobe, it was kind of like Mm.

所以當我們離神戶越來越近，越來越遠的時候，就有點像嗯。

And then as it really happened, it was like, Okay, all right, I think.

然後，因為它真的發生了， 它就像，好吧，沒事，我想。

And he's a friend of mine.

而且他是我的一個朋友。

I know you like we boys and stuff, but I'm still, like, stay over there on But as he got cause I'm like, OK, cool.

我知道你喜歡我們的男孩和東西， 但我還是一樣，留在那邊 但他得到的原因，我想，OK，冷靜。

I'll accept this in this time started cooking.

我接受這個在這個時候開始做飯。

It was like, Okay, alright, he's a Laker.

這就像，好吧，好吧，他是一個湖人。

Then you start the conversation of what really makes him a Laker.

然後你就開始討論他真正成為湖人的原因。

Then I have people out there.

那我在外面有人。

Kareem did.

Kareem做的。

I don't remember Milwaukee.

我不記得密爾沃基了。

I remember Kareem as a Laker.

我記得Kareem是湖人隊的。

Oh, Shock.

哦，震驚。

I don't know about Orlando.

我不知道奧蘭多。

I remember shock as a Laker.

我記得作為湖人的震驚。

He wins in L.

他贏在L。

A.

A.

I don't remember him as a heat, and I don't remember him as a cab.

我不記得他是個熱心人，也不記得他是個計程車。

I remember him as a Laker.

我記得他是湖人隊的。

So when you start the conversation about how many does he have to win to get a statue?

所以當你開始討論他要贏多少才能得到一個雕像？

All of those sort of things, because there's all the statues that are in front of Staples Center, where there's Jerry West.

所有這些東西，因為有所有的雕像，是在斯臺普斯中心的前面，那裡有傑裡-韋斯特。

Kareem Abdul Jabbar, uh, Magic Johnson, Shaquille O Neal.

Kareem Abdul Jabbar，呃，魔術師Johnson，Shaquille O Neal。

At some point, Kobe Bryant.

在某些時候，科比-布萊恩特。

Chick Hearn.

奇克-赫恩

I think Wayne Gretzky's out in front Delahoya.

我覺得韋恩-格雷茨基在德拉霍亞前面。

So you start to say, Okay, what is it going to take for him to be a real Laker?

所以你開始說，好吧，他要怎樣才能成為一個真正的湖人？

I think he's got a win.

我覺得他贏了。

I think we will take one, for sure.

我想我們肯定會拿一個。

But if he gets us to, he gets a statue.

但如果他把我們弄到，他就能得到一座雕像。

If he gets us one, he's a Laker.

如果他能給我們帶來一個，他就是湖人了。

Okay, if you get to one, he's a Laker.

好吧，如果你到了一個，他是湖人隊的。

If he's too, he's dyed in the wool proposal.

如果他也是，那他就是染指了羊毛的提議。

Absolutely 100% 100% now.

現在絕對是100%的100%。

And he doesn't even have to get the two.

而且他根本就不需要得到這兩個。

As the frontline guy.

作為一線的人。

He can get the two as the two or the three guy 34 years from now, he doesn't have to do it back to back or nothing like that.

他可以在34年後把這兩個人當做二號人物或者三號人物，他不需要背靠背之類的。

Just be on the Lakers with two championships over the next 4 to 5 years and you get your statue.

只要在未來4到5年內，在湖人隊拿到兩個冠軍，你就能拿到你的雕像。

That's a tall task for anybody, but then again, this is LeBron we're talking about for me.

這對任何人來說都是一項艱鉅的任務，但話說回來，對我來說，這可是勒布朗。

I would just mentioned the first game back at Staples after the death of Kobe against the Blazers, when he had the speech in his hand and then tossed it away and then you spoke from the heart, a Zanon Laker fan, but as a human as a basketball fan.

我只想提一下科比死後回到斯臺普斯對陣開拓者的第一場比賽，當時他手裡拿著演講稿，然後就扔掉了，然後你就發自內心的說了一句話，一個贊農湖人球迷，但是作為一個人作為一個籃球迷。

That's the moment LeBron got me with the Lakers when he said, Yeah, I got this all written out.

那是勒布朗讓我加入湖人隊的那一刻，他說，是的，我把這一切都寫出來了。

But you know what?

但你知道嗎？

Screw this.

去你媽的

I'm just talking from the heart.

我只是說說心裡話。

That's just for May.

這只是5月份的情況。

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感謝觀看ESPN在YouTube上的體育直播和優質內容訂閱ESPN加現在。