years alongside the various Avis Crocombes. I absolutely loved my time as a kitchen maid

幾年來，與各種Avis Crocombes一起。我絕對喜歡我作為一個廚房女傭的時間。

but why did you as English Heritage decide to put costumed characters into the Service

但為什麼你作為英國遺產決定把服裝的字元到服務

Wing? I think we were really keen to really bring the kitchens and the service range to

翼？我想我們真的很想把廚房和服務範圍真正帶到。

life so we really wanted to try and do something a little bit different and we wanted to make

所以我們真的很想嘗試做一些不同的事情，我們想做的是

the most of those days when we did have the costumed interpreters in there and the interaction

那些日子裡，當我們有服裝翻譯在那裡和互動的時候，大部分的日子都是如此

between the characters was really important, getting them to be real people and not just

角色之間的關係真的很重要，讓他們成為真正的人，而不僅僅是... ...

generic cooks. And if it hadn't been for us portraying the genuine people then we wouldn't

一般的廚師。如果不是因為我們刻畫了真正的人，那麼我們就不會...

have discovered the cookbook because it was actually through portraying Avis Crocombe

發現了這本食譜，因為它實際上是通過描寫艾維斯-克羅克姆

that Mr Stride got in touch with us and said he's got the cookbook so if that process hadn't

斯特雷德先生和我們取得了聯繫 說他拿到了那本烹飪書 所以如果這個過程還沒有完成的話

happened we may never have discovered it. And it was an absolutely stupendous discovery.

我們可能永遠不會發現它。而這絕對是一個驚人的發現。

Not all of the recipes that we've shown in these videos come from the cookery book because

我們在這些視頻中展示的食譜並非全部來自烹飪書，因為

it is a snapshot. She's sort of filling in certain things from other books and actually

它是一個快照。她的排序填補了某些東西 從其他書籍，其實

that means that what you've got in the cookery book is in some ways more of a representation

這意味著你在烹飪書中得到的東西 在某些方面更多的是一種代表

of the kind of recipes the Braybrookes wanted but couldn't get from their high-end cookery

佈雷布魯克家想要的那種食譜，但卻無法從他們的高端廚藝中獲得。

cooks. I agree entirely, there are little marginal references where it actually says

廚師。我完全同意，有一點邊際的參考，在那裡它實際上是說

'got this from Lady Braybrooke' or 'got this from the Field magazine' so we can see there's

"從佈雷布魯克夫人那裡得到這個 "或者 "從《田野》雜誌上得到這個"，這樣我們就可以看到有

this interaction going on between Lady Braybrooke and her cook so they're obviously close confidants

佈雷布魯克夫人和她的廚師之間的互動 所以他們顯然是親密無間的知己。

and they're speaking to each other on a regular basis and that's really great to know that

他們定期互相交流，這真的很好，知道

she's not just this faceless servants who's sitting in the service range; she's actually

她不只是這個坐在服務區的無臉僕人，她其實是...

someone who's regularly interacting with the lady of the house. And she's doubly not faceless

經常與女主人交往的人。而且她也不是無臉的

is she, because one of the documents that was with the cookbook is possibly a photograph

是她，因為其中一份與烹飪書一起的文件可能是一張照片。

of Avis. Just possibly, yes. Just possibly. Talk me through this, tell me what we've got

艾維斯的。只是可能，是的。只是可能。告訴我通過這個，告訴我我們已經得到了什麼？

here. What we have here is a photograph which has a date on it of 1886 and it seems to show

這裡。我們這裡有一張照片，上面有1886年的日期，似乎顯示的是

a man and a woman and we know it's from the TRobinson Art Photographer Studios in Shoreditch.

一個男人和一個女人，我們知道這是來自Shoreditch的TRobinson藝術攝影師工作室。

And the ages of the people in the photograph are about right, they would have been in their

而照片上的人的年齡也差不多，他們應該是在他們的年齡。

late forties at the time and these people maybe look a slight bit older than that. But

四十多歲的時候，這些人或許看起來比這個年齡稍大一些。但是

on the other hand in a lot of Victorian photographs people do look somewhat older than perhaps

另一方面，在很多維多利亞時代的照片中，人們看起來有點老，也許比

they would look today at the same age. They do, they would have had a relatively hard

他們會在今天的同齡人中看起來。他們這樣做，他們會有一個相對困難的。

life and what we know about Benjamin is that he'd been a butler because we've got the marriage

我們對本傑明的瞭解是他曾是個管家 因為我們有他的婚約。

certificate. He'd been a butler working in Maddox Street which is probably not that far

證書。他曾在馬多克斯街當過管家 可能離這裡並不遠

away from where Avis was in Upper Brook Street. And that was the London home of the Braybrookes

離艾維斯在上布魯克街的地方。那是佈雷布羅克家族在倫敦的家。

wasn't it? It was. There's quite a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest it just

是嗎？是的有相當多的間接證據表明，它只是...

might be Avis.

可能是阿維斯。