Good evening happening.

晚上好發生。

Hello.

你好啊

Hello.

你好啊

From Beppu, Japan where I am joined by Oh, I guess I am joining Dogan today.

來自日本別府，在那裡加入我的是哦，我想我今天是要加入多根了。

What we want to do is talk about basically how to learn Japanese, how to get a solid grasp on the language.

我們要做的，基本上是談如何學習日語，如何紮實地掌握日語。

And I thought Dogan was perfect person to do this video it.

我覺得Dogan是做這個視頻的最佳人選。

So I put this video off for like a year.

所以，我把這個視頻關閉 像一年。

May need to meet up for a long time.

可能需要長時間的見面。

Yeah, that being said a little bit of I guess, a background on both of us.

是啊，說了一點我想，我們倆的背景。

I've been in Japan.

我一直在日本。

I came here for the first time in 2005 moved in 2000 and seven.

我是2005年第一次來這裡的，2000年搬家，七。

I spent a lot of time to the point of almost living with Japanese people back in Canada, which is where I picked up a lot of my Japanese skill.

在加拿大的時候，我花了很多時間，幾乎到了和日本人一起生活的地步，這也是我的很多日語技能的習得。

But since coming to Japan, I have used Japanese for things like car drifting.

但自從來到日本後，我就用日語來做汽車漂移等事情。

And I think, more than anything is my work in shamisen.

而我認為，更多的是我在三味線的工作。

Japanese is basically part of my daily life.

日語基本上是我日常生活的一部分。

I would not be able to survive and do what I do with Harry.

我將無法生存，做我和哈利的事。

And I think for the most part you could definitely say the same.

我想大多數情況下，你也絕對可以這麼說。

Yeah, absolutely.

是的，絕對的。

So.

所以，

I kind of have a slimmer story.

我算是有一個苗條的故事。

I came to Japan 2007 study abroad in 2007 to 2000.

我是2007年到2000年來日本留學的。

It was in Tokyo for one year, went back to the States, finished my degree and came back since I came back to me.

在東京呆了一年，回到美國，完成了學業，既然回到我身邊，就回來了。

And even before that, really, I knew that I want to do creative writing in Japanese.

而在這之前，真的，我就知道我想用日語進行創作。

So I was always doing creative writing on the side.

所以我一直在兼職做創作。

Then I would just try and do it in Japanese and have, like, my friends, look at it and give me feedback on the Japanese.

然後我就會試著用日語來做，然後讓我的朋友們看看，然後給我日語的反饋。

Now I'm doing full time comedic.

現在我在做全職相聲。

Uh, I would say jokes in Japanese, primarily about life in Japan.

呃，我想說日語的笑話，主要是關於日本的生活。

My content is in Japanese those and it's some of the best content on the Internet in Japanese.

我的內容是日語那些，而且是互聯網上最好的日語內容。

If you haven't seen it, I'm just gonna go ahead and roll a clip right now.

如果你還沒看過，我現在就先放一段。

You know, Simon Teoh that today what we're gonna do is talk about how you could learn Japanese, kind of based on our experiences.

你知道，Simon Teoh... ...今天我們要做的是根據我們的經驗來談談如何學習日語。

For me, it's really really, really, really simple.

對我來說，真的很簡單，真的很簡單。

Send too many really good.

發太多真的好。

Do something every single day.

每天都要做一些事情。

Do not skip a single day, not one day, something every single day.

不要漏掉一天，一天也不要漏掉，每天都有事情。

A language is really more of, I think, a lifestyle than anything else making sure that that is a part of your everyday life, that kind of in the same way that, like showering or brushing your teeth would be You're not just gonna not do those things in that exact same way.

一門語言是真正更多的，我認為，一種生活方式，而不是其他任何東西，確保這是一個你的日常生活的一部分，那種以同樣的方式，像洗澡或刷牙將是你不只是要去不做那些事情在完全相同的方式。

If you make a jab Japanese study or learn Japanese using Japanese watching something in Japanese, writing single thing in Japanese, whatever part of it is that you're the most interesting, especially in the beginning, because we all start somewhere, making it a part of your every single day life, every single day life, your data life, your daily life is going to be just essential.

如果你做了一個日語學習的刺探，或者用日語看一些東西，用日語寫單項的東西，不管是哪一部分，你都是最感興趣的，尤其是在開始的時候，因為我們都是從某個地方開始的，讓它成為你每一天的生活，每一天的生活，你的數據生活，你的日常生活的一部分，這將是剛剛必不可少的。

That's the biggest tip that I can get.

這是我能得到的最大的提示。

That's how I went from no Japanese to be, even have conversations with Japanese in under a year.

我就是這樣在不到一年的時間裡，從不會日語到會，甚至可以和日本人對話。

Yeah, it's funny.

是啊，這很有趣。

Our mutual friend enjoy the enemy, the enemy man.

我們共同的朋友享受敵人，敵人的人。

He's half Japanese, but he taught himself a good majority of the Japanese that he knows in terms of like reading and writing, grammar, ecology and stuff like that.

他有一半的日本血統，但是他自學了大部分的日語，他知道的日語在像讀寫，文法，生態學之類的東西。

You made a really great video way back in the day, and it was like the secret to becoming fluent in Japanese.

當年你做了一個非常棒的視頻，它就像成為流利日語的祕密。

So he was like, Here's the secret.

所以他就說，這就是祕密。

Study your ass.

學習你的屁股。

Yeah, yeah, that's That's that's number one piece of advice.

是啊，是啊，這是 這是第一條建議。

A lot of people.

很多人。

They'll see us now.

他們會看到我們了。

And it's when you only see that you don't realize that we've both spent decades studying Japanese.

而當你只看到，你並不知道我們都花了幾十年的時間來學習日語。

So I actually had a teacher in high school.

所以我在高中的時候其實是有老師的。

The teacher actually spoke Japanese.

老師居然會說日語。

I was like, Dude, you should learn Japanese sometimes eat one does not just learn Japanese.

我當時就想，哥們，你應該學日語有時候吃一個人不只是學日語。

And he brought me in this little Johan English Japanese dictionary.

他給我帶來了這本小約翰英語日語詞典。

And he's like, Well, tell you what?

他說，好吧，告訴你什麼？

If you could learn heated gonna in the next month, I'll just give you the book.

如果你能在接下來的一個月內學會加熱會，我就把書給你。

So every single day for a month, I just practice.

所以這一個月來，每天我都只是在練習。

He didn't even take him up.

他甚至沒有帶他上去。

It was like two weeks in and I was going to go.

這就像兩個星期，我打算去。

The rest of it was just having fun.

剩下的就是玩玩而已。

And that's kind of how money Japanese learning started on.

而這也算是金錢日語學習的開始。

Then the rest was just practicing, speaking every single day ones.

然後剩下的就是練習了，每天都講那些。

I made Japanese friends, but we were talking earlier that not everybody has that luxury and I kind of want to step off of this onto Dorgan's more technical points because I think this is where a lot of the value in this is gonna come from on his advice on actually how to approach learning Japanese.

我結識了日本朋友，但我們之前說過，不是每個人都有這樣的奢望，我有點想從這個問題跳到Dorgan更多的技術性問題上，因為我認為這是很多價值的地方，他對如何學習日語的建議。

Okay.

好吧，我知道了

Yeah, Great.

是啊，太好了。

So in addition to doing comedic content on YouTube, I actually teach Japanese phonetics.

所以除了在YouTube上做喜劇內容外，其實我還教日語語音。

That's kind of a fancy word for pronunciation.

這是一種花哨的發音。

I I'm really passionate about teaching Japanese fanatics in particular because it's in my opinion and overlooked element of the language policy.

我真的很熱衷於特別是日本迷的教學，因為在我看來，這是語言政策中被忽視的元素。

Second, you do that.

其次，你要做到這一點。

Put out the video?

把視頻放出來？

Yeah.

是啊。

Does that count in your mind only?

難道這隻在你心裡算嗎？

Absolutely.

絕對的

Absolutely.

絕對的

Okay, here's on my favorite examples of Gogan teaching or playing with Japanese phonetics.

好了，下面就說說我最喜歡的高根教或玩日語語音的例子。

GAC said this dogging oxygen Say this younger.

GAC說這個狗屁氧氣說這個年輕。

Taking it out on their card, he must stop Do Tony Nardi time that you talked elected beautiful This for not sake must Yeah, we're not this no sense in the canton double.

在他們的卡上拿出來，他必須停止做託尼-納迪時間，你說話當選美麗的這為不是為了必須是的，我們不是這個沒有意義的坎頓雙。

So I think that this video that you guys just saw is a good example of the Japanese pitch oxen system which is almost entirely overlooked, like just completely when it comes to learning and teaching Japanese.

所以我覺得你們剛才看到的這個視頻是一個很好的例子，日本的投牛系統幾乎完全被忽略了，比如說在學習和教授日語的時候就完全被忽略了。

And that's The reason for that is because it's easy to become fluent enough in Japanese to have normal conversations.

而這是因為日語很容易變得足夠流利，可以進行正常的對話。

You don't need to sound like a native in order to be understandable in Japanese.

為了讓人聽得懂日語，你不需要聽起來像個本地人。

However, if your goal is to sound as native as possible, it is necessary to study Japanese phonetics and pitch oxen, in particular thing with the various elements of language learning slate of speaking, reading, writing, listening to the main floor.

但是，如果你的目標是儘可能地發出母語的聲音，有必要學習日語語音和音調牛，特別是事情與語言學習的各種元素板塊的口語，閱讀，寫作，聽力為主樓。

Your ability to accurately mimic native speech deteriorates faster, then your ability to learn grammar or learn Colin Gee.

你準確模仿母語的能力退化得更快，那麼你學習文法或學習科林-吉的能力也會退化得更快。

So I strongly believe that it's best to learn from that experience.

所以我堅信，最好的辦法是吸取經驗。

Early on, I like to say Do six months or so with on all around resource, such as like danke okay or whatever.

早期的時候，我喜歡說做半年左右的時間，用上所有的資源，比如說像danke okay什麼的。

It might give yourself a base.

這或許會給自己一個基礎。

Yes, yes, OK, and once you've got that six months in, then you can really benefit from the phonetic training.

是的，是的，好的，一旦你有了這半年的時間，那麼你就可以從音標訓練中真正受益了。

But then do about six months or so intense, frenetic study.

但後來做了大約半年左右的緊張、狂熱的學習。

And then once that's done, I I encourage people to forget they ever had that study because if you study for the Knicks too much, it begins to interfere with your ability to speak because you think you should I be doing?

然後一旦這樣做，我我鼓勵人們忘記他們曾經有過的研究，因為如果你為尼克斯學習太多，它開始干擾你的說話能力，因為你認為你應該我在做什麼？

Should I be implementing this rule if this part is this the correct intonation, So you hit it hard until it's muscle memory.

我是不是應該執行這個規則，如果這個部分是這個正確的音調，所以你用力打，直到它的肌肉記憶。

One thing that I like to encourage people to do is to pick a movie or to pick like a 30 or 40 minute episode of a drama.

我喜歡鼓勵人們做的一件事是選擇一部電影，或者選擇像30或40分鐘一集的電視劇。

Drama is usually better than animate because the speech and a lot of enemies a little bit, I would say, Left the natural.

戲劇通常比動畫好，因為演講和很多敵人一點點，我想說，左自然。

Yeah, Do you have a specific drama that actually dio the drama?

是啊，你有具體的電視劇，其實dio的電視劇嗎？

The movie that I recommend?

我推薦的電影？

It's called June, you know.

這叫六月，你知道的。

Yeah, OK, it's like a drama comedy, but it's a courtroom drama, so they're just talking the entire movie.

是啊，好吧，這就像一部戲劇喜劇，但這是一部宮廷劇，所以他們只是在談論整個電影。

So it's nothing but non stop dialogue from start to finish for two hours.

所以從頭到尾兩個小時都是不停的對話。

Okay, but the key to this exercise is to use these same movie or saying episode of a particular drama over and over again.

好吧，但這個練習的關鍵是反覆使用這些相同的電影或說某部電視劇的情節。

When I say over and over again, I mean, like, hundreds of time.

當我說一遍又一遍，我的意思是，像，數百次。

I would watch that movie three or four times a day when I'm studying Japanese.

我在學習日語的時候，每天都會看三四遍那個電影。

Seriously, you know the funny thing usable?

說真的，你知道有趣的事情可用嗎？

I was doing car stuff actually did that exact exact same thing with initial D.

我是做汽車的東西實際上做了完全相同的事情與初始D。

Yeah, I actually I picked three episodes that zeroed in on one of the time, and I think I probably watched each episode.

是啊，其實我是選了三集，歸零了其中一集的時間，我想我大概每集都看了。

30 time, Yes, that's the way to do it.

30次，是的，就是這樣做的。

Yeah, Yeah, it worked.

是啊，是啊，它的工作。

It worked, cause then I was able to talk about cars stuff and I couldn't before.

它的工作，因為那時我能夠談論汽車的東西，我不能以前。

And the other thing, the other exercise that I were encouraged.

而另一件事，另一個練習，我被鼓勵。

A whole lot of people to Dio is to record yourself speaking Japanese and and to upload it to you to get in front of other people's eyes.

一大堆人對迪奧就是把自己說日語的過程錄下來，並且上傳到你這裡，讓你在別人的眼前。

Because if you only speak in isolation to a certain degree, it's somewhat pointless.

因為如果你只是孤立地講到一定程度，那就有些沒有意義了。

And the the way the quickest way to get over that I'm not comfortable with the way that my Japanese sounds and I'm not comfortable with native it is here.

最快的方法是克服我不習慣我的日語發音方式 我不習慣母語的方式，就是這裡。

And we speaking Japanese is to force yourself into situations where other people will hear you speaking Japanese.

而我們說日語就是強迫自己進入別人會聽到你說日語的環境。

If you know other people are going to see it, you're gonna be that much more conscious about your your speak here and to take it that much more seriously.

如果你知道其他人會看到它， 你會更加意識到你的 你在這裡說話，並把它更嚴重。

So I guess a quick summary, huh?

所以，我想快速總結一下，嗯？

Dorgan's provided a lot of how to get started with Japanese.

多根的提供了很多如何開始學習日語的方法。

Where to start where toe learn I also personally, I'm just going to slip in something called the Let's Learn Japanese video Siri's that I will link.

從哪裡開始哪裡學我也個人，我就順便把一個叫Let's learn Japanese video Siri的東西，我會鏈接。

They're the cheesiest videos you will ever see film back in the eighties All these air, good place to get start There are so many apso There are so many different ways to learn Japanese.

他們是你在80年代看到的最俗氣的視頻 所有這些空氣，是開始的好地方 有這麼多的阿普索 有這麼多不同的方法來學習日語。

In fact, Dogan even runs up a tree on teaching Japanese from the next.

事實上，道根甚至在日語教學上跑到了一棵樹上，從下。

Specifically that's by far one of my favorite things in the world.

具體來說那是我目前最喜歡的事情之一。

I'm gonna link it down below.

我把它鏈接到下面。

That will give you a really good starting point.

這將給你一個非常好的起點。

Outside of that, just keep going.

在這之外，只要繼續走下去。

Do something every single day.

每天都要做一些事情。

I hope that you guys got some value out of this.

希望你們能從中得到一些價值。

Basically all of Dogan stuff will be linked down below and you are new to Doha and you have a YouTube channel is well, I mean the world to both of us.

基本上所有Dogan的東西都會被鏈接到下面，你是新來多哈的，你有一個YouTube頻道是好的，我的意思是我們兩個人的世界。

If you give that like button some love.

如果你給那個喜歡的按鈕一些愛。

If you're new to the channel, I'd say subscribe, But maybe go check out one or two more videos.

如果你是新來的，我會說訂閱，但也許去看看一兩個更多的視頻。

Leave me a trail of comments, so I can see where you been.

給我留下評論的痕跡，這樣我就能知道你去了哪裡。

Thank you, dog.

謝謝你，狗。

In my place and in your studio.

在我的地方，在你的工作室。

Ok, anyway, guys, thank you so much for joining us today.

好了，不管怎麼說，夥計們，非常感謝你們參加我們今天的活動。

Thank you again, Duggan.

再次感謝你，杜根。

No, it's been good.

不，這是很好的。

And you guys know we'll see you again real soon.

你們知道我們很快就會再見面的。