there are a lot of imposters and a lot of misinformation

但也因此，市面上有許多假貨

so today we're gonna set the record straight

跟很多錯誤的訊息

We've taken the train down to Kobe City where we're getting a chance to interview a member of the Kobe beef association

所以，今天我們要來替大家解惑

So you guys don't need to just trust what we're saying,

我們坐火車來到神戶市

We're gonna learn the facts about what makes Kobe beef Kobe beef and then we're gonna take that information and

並將訪問一位神戶牛肉協會的成員

We're gonna go eat lots of beef

所以你們不只是聽我們說

I'm excited to learn aren't you excited to learn? Yeah, the learning part is the most important part of this video. Yes

而是跟我們一起學是什麼造就了今天的神戶牛肉

Let's - to the learning! Learn. Learn.

帶著這些知識

So the first place we're eating at is Ooi Niku Ten and instead of getting it in steak format

我們一起去吃很！多！牛！肉！

Which is what everybody usually thinks of, we're actually trying shabu-shabu today

我很期待知識的學習，你不期待嗎？

Which is a very good way to eat your Kobe beef as well

對！學習很重要！學習是這部影片最重要的部分！

We wanted to share this with you guys because although they have steak available here

讓我們一起去學習吧！學習！

A lot of people just only go for steak

我們第一個要去的地方是大井肉店

But Kobe beef can be used for many different things. Even like sukiyaki, they do boxes

不是來這裡吃牛排

you can do like

雖然一般來說大家想到的都是牛排

sandos and stuff. There many creative ways for you to have Kobe beef. And I am really thrilled because I have never had Kobe

我們今天其實是要來吃涮涮鍋

beef shabu-shabu style and I'm thrilled because I didn't have breakfast

一個也很適合神戶牛的烹調方式

I said to Simon, "my spider senses are tingling"... it has arrived

我們想跟你們分享涮涮鍋

Oh

雖然這裡也有賣牛排

This is so beautiful, ah, have you saved my life. Are we are we able to eat this?

但大部分的人都只知道神戶牛排

This looks like those display models that they put on for beef

其實神戶牛可以用很多種不同方式料理

Now the question we have to ask is, did they bring any plates for Martina?

像是壽喜燒、便當、三明治等等

See what they didn't tell you is that the bib isn't for dropping food on but is for catching your drool

有超多種類的創意神戶牛料理

It's time for my first taste of Kobe beef and shabu-shabu... My lips are so wet

我現在非常興奮

It's just glistening and dropping so beautifully

因為我從！來！沒！有！

What have I been doing with my life?

吃過神戶牛涮涮鍋

This is so...

我也非常興奮因為我沒吃早餐

fantastic for shabu shabu. That's some of the most delicious that we've ever tasted.

我的蜘蛛感應偵測到

it's almost like the combination of the quick cook in the water and then a little bit of a dash with some ponzu just makes

神戶牛涮涮鍋到場啦

It taste so bright. No Martina is wrong. This is overwhelming

太漂亮了

Spiritually overwhelming. Okay. I had Kobe beef a few times before I feel like I've never had this before

噢我被救贖了！

Every time is like the first time (It's just like the first time)

我們真的可以吃這個嗎

It's almost like the the fattiness of the meat almost tastes like it- like it's got cheese in it. Because it's so buttery?

這看起來超像擺在店門口的食物模型

It's so rich. Is the time for round two? And we still have like 30 pieces to go

現在的問題是

And now to try it with sesame

他們有準備Ｍartina的盤子嗎？

I've had Kobe beef before but it's like the first time I ever tried it

（暫停）

I feel like there's some kind of deja vu happening right now. Maybe.

（兩位不是應該要學習神戶牛相關知識嗎）

Spiritually overhwelming. Okay. The creaminess of the sesame, it's like so thick it's an amazing like mouthfeel

（你好，我是Tonimoto)

when you're actually eating it. Almost peanutty-ness. Very peanutty, yes. It's the flavor of the beef is actually what's powering this entire thing

（我在兵庫縣家畜業分支已服務37年了）

Yeah, it's crazy. It's not covered in salt. It's not covered in eight days of marinade. It's just straight-up delicious beef

（神戶牛肉協會（神戸肉流通推進協議会）成立宗旨）

I don't know which one I like more. I don't know either. Both of them are tremendous. Yeah

（在於協助人們吃到真正的神戶牛肉、）

So we've only had a few pieces of meat and now we're moving on to vegetables and Simon and I were like

（並提供販賣神戶牛的業者登記證明、）

But - but all the meat! But it was explained to us that a little bit of the meat helps flavor the actual broth that it's being cooked

（以保證這些業者賣的都是真的神戶牛）

in. The dashi, right?

（業者也會在店裡）

and then she adds the vegetables like some tofu and mushrooms. And it

（擺放銅製獎座）

Absorbs the flavor of the meat that was boiled in it before. So clever.

（就像是一個地標一樣）

Oh, gosh. I'm so sorry to interrupt but um, it feels like we're a little off track here?

店家沒有告訴你的是

Yeah, who cares this video is called the truth about Kobe beef, not the truth about Kobe vegetables.

這個圍兜不是用來接掉下來的食物

I know eh? Back to the good stuff. Back to the beef! Gosh. It's funny because

而是你的口水

She asked, like, hey do you want anything else? I'm like, yeah, I want more meat. Then she's like, oh, you got enough shots? Yes

是時候品嚐第一口

Well, you can definitely do some more meat, right? We need different angles of the meat. It's always safe

神戶牛涮涮鍋

to have more footage than less footage because if you run out of footage

口水快滴下來了

what do you do? Like, Dan, when you don't get the shot let us know. Yeah be like

肉片閃閃發光好漂亮

"I didn't get the-"

我之前到底都在幹嘛

Dan: I got plenty

這涮涮鍋

Shut your mouth Dan! You shut your mouth Dan

簡直是太棒了！

With the ponzu, yes, it makes the meat taste very fresh

這是我這輩子吃過數一數二好吃的肉

Yes

完全不油膩

because it's like putting lemon on a fish. It is. I really brings out a brightness to the actual flavor of the meat. The

肉片快速的在水裡涮過

acidity cuts the fat nicely. Yeah, but when you have it with the sesame sauce, it actually brings out the buttery side

搭配一點柚子醋（ponzu sauce=柑橘味醬油）

It's like the nuttiness enhances the butteriness of it.

吃起來超清爽

Oh my gosh. Having Kobe beef in shabu-shabu style

不，Martina錯了

I actually really liked because

這的確很驚艷

One of the issues some people have with Kobe beef is that it's too oily for them. If you grill it as a steak then

精神上的驚豔

It's pretty much there in its own oils

我其實吃過幾次神戶牛

But here if you boil it a little bit and then you take the meat away

但現在覺得之前吃的好像都不算數

Some of the oil is left behind. See, I kind of like a leaner piece that's still super tender delicious

每次吃都像是第一次

I think another thing that I really learned today is

牛肉的油花

how to stop eating shabu-shabu like a barbarian. (How to be patient?) Because when you and I go for shabu-shabu

吃起來好像起司

We just take a whole plate of vegetables and we just dump them in

因為吃起來很像奶油（吃起來很濃郁）

Um... Excuse me, sir, chotto matte kudasai, I'm the one who's like you need to slow it in

可以吃第二輪了嗎

We need to like get some base flavors and you're the one that's like *BLAMP*

我們大概還有30幾片肉呢

(arigato gozaimasu)

（神戶牛跟其他日本和牛不同的地方）

What I'm saying, I've never actually had shabu-shabu done so patiently and so unsloppily before

（在於油花跟瘦肉的品質）

I think we need to re-do our shabu-shabu video.

（跟兩者間絕妙的和諧）

Well, we're doing it now aren't we? We're doing it now.

（霜降牛肉間的油花）

I think the saddest part of eating at a restaurant like this is when you see that there's only a couple pieces of meat left

（會在嘴裡完全融化）

So this is gonna be

（變成非常好吃的味道）

super duper delicious

（這就是神戶牛的最棒的特色）

We're taking the leftover broth that everything was cooked in with the vegetables and the beef with an egg and other veggies. (Oh they have eggs there also!)

現在我要沾胡麻醬試試看

It's gonna absorb all the flavors and going to look kind of like a Japanese risotto, you know

我以前就吃過神戶牛

And for the last bit of rice that has absorbed

但現在一直覺得是第一次吃到

All that Kobe beef juice. I feel like this was an extraordinarily healthy meal

一種強烈的既視感

I feel almost like I was promised to eat

精神上的驚艷

Huge amounts of beef and then just not have any vegetables and then just never poop again, you know

芝麻的濃郁感

But now I'm like, this is way to balanced of a diet. The tofu and the

非常強烈

healthy things and stuff. Come on, Japan. Are you sure what I'm supposed to have spoons with this?

入口後的口感非常好

Instead of chicken noodle soup this is beef rice soup. It feels so hearty. But you know

很像花生（對！很像花生）

It doesn't have that gamey beefiness

牛肉的美味又更加強了沾醬的味道

This is a very subtle beef taste because I think the Kobe beef is so buttery and sweet in taste

非常驚人

Mmm, and it goes so nicely with the egg, wow!

這牛肉並沒有額外加鹽巴

Ah! A nice yuzu sherbet end to help cleanse your palate. Mmm. I don't think I could eat a single bite more

也沒有先醃製8天什麼的

I'm so stuffed

牛肉本身的味道就非常美味

Unless it's another Kobe beef meal. Mm-hmm

我不知道我比較喜歡哪一種（沾醬）

So we're in Chinatown of Kobe and we got ourselves a little Peking duck wrap

我也不知道，兩種都非常美味

We're eating it here on the ground and Martina

現在只剩下幾片肉

Dropped her duck skin, it fell out

現在要開始吃蔬菜

Now I told her she should have just ate it - five-second rule - she refuses

但Simon跟我還想繼續吃肉

I wanted to take it for myself, but she won't let me either

店家解釋說

Come on, guys. You gotta agree with me

剩下的那些肉

Do you want to know why I won't let you?

可以增添高湯的風味

Why?

再加入蔬菜、豆腐跟菇類

Because we're filming tomorrow. If you get massive diarrhea

這些材料就會吸收高湯的美味

And you can't eat

非常聰明的點子！

He's gonna go for it - you can't stop me!

（噢天啊，不好意思打擾一下）

Apron me! Apronation complete, but I think this is more of a bib?

（但我覺得我們好像放錯重點了）

(This is an apron) And you know he needs it. So yesterday we want of having it shabu-shabu style

（對啊！管他什麼蔬菜！這個影片是神戶牛的真相，又不是神戶蔬菜的真相）

Today we're having it the most traditional way in steak format, and I'm very excited even though I just had Kobe beef yesterday

（真的！給我們真正的好料！）（給我們牛肉！）

It's like the first time, every time. I just feel like if I'm gonna have a Kobe steak I want my appetizer to be meat

說來好笑

I know. So this is just a perfect situation

剛服務生問我們

Itadakimasu!

「你們想要加點什麼嗎？」

Nice little bit of grilling on the outside. Nice and soft, got that buttery taste to it.

「嗯，我們想吃肉」

Now the reason why we're going on and on about Kobe beef is because it's very popular

「噢那有什麼問題，你們當然可以加點肉」

But there are a lot of restaurants that are trying to take advantage of it. And we're not just saying that to be snobby.

我們需要從不同角度拍牛肉，這是重點

Getting certified to become Kobe beef is the most difficult certification

有多一點鏡頭絕對比少鏡頭來的保險

you can get.

因為如果剪接的時候，鏡頭不夠怎麼辦？

Kobe certified beef is only Tajima cows

所以Dan (攝助）如果鏡頭不夠，隨時跟我們說

grown in the Hyogo prefecture and only a few of those cows are

就說：鏡頭不...（Dan:其實已經錄到很多了）

certified to be Kobe beef.

管好你的嘴巴！Dan，閉嘴！

And on top of that even if you are a Tajima cow, once they come to inspect it

柚子醋讓牛肉吃起來很新鮮

you may not even make the cut.

就像在魚肉上擠檸檬汁

It's really happening. Look at this!

整個把肉的味道都提出來

Beautiful, beautiful piece of meat

酸味把油膩的味道平衡的很好

I mean I guess we'll have vegetables. (Love me some garlic.) Yeah that garlic is really... I did live in Korea for eight years

搭配胡麻醬的時候

Half of my body's garlic. Yep, garlic and kimchi, our bodies are made up of them.

反而是把肉的濃郁感帶出來

I am never not impressed whenever they bring this out no matter how many times I eat Kobe beef. I'm always

堅果味提升了肉的濃郁感

Always thrilled, yep

我真的很喜歡神戶牛以涮涮鍋的方式烹調

We saw the

有些人會覺得神戶牛太油膩

certificate or the number. Every single Kobe certified cow

如果煎成牛排，油脂基本上會繼續保留

will have its own little certificate number. A ten digit number and you could use a number to look it up online afterwards.

但如果是用煮的

and if you're in America and your restaurant says Kobe beef make sure that you're not getting hornswoggled.

就可以去掉一些油脂，保留肉的部分

Why did we agree to vegetables Simon?

肉吃起來就會比較瘦

I'll trade you. Yes?

但一樣很嫩、很好吃

My vegetables for your meat. Mmm, it feels like a bad deal if I'm being honest with you

另外一個我今天學到的事情是

Frying up some bread as well!

如何不吃涮涮鍋吃得像個野蠻人

I mean, why go to a music concert? It's gonna be so loud, it's gonna hurt your ears. Here you could just

學怎麼有耐心

sit and smell and have a tremendous meal. This is worth more than any music concert you could think of

因為我們之前去吃涮涮鍋

What if they serve Kobe beef at a music concert? Whoa!

都直接把整盤菜端起來

Level up game! You get this guy to sing. You could see the little pools of

整個倒進去

Juice starting to drip away pull away from the sides. Just so glorious to behold. It smells fantastic

不好意思，這位先生

How does the chef

每次都是我說要

not cry every time he makes a piece? Just out of pure joy. Ah, Simon's entered that stage again where

慢慢放、慢慢煮出味道

he starts being really weird. You could hear the angels playing music and (Yep, we've entered that stage)

然後你都...

we framed the camera so that we would be in the middle, but I've noticed that the two of us have

（謝謝）

slowly migrated towards the Kobe steak. In the middle of Simon we can do this

我要說的是

That knife just goes through so easily. No sawing, just one motion. It all

我從來沒有這麼有耐心的吃涮涮鍋

just slides through

我們應該要重拍之前吃涮涮鍋的影片

I am just gonna start eating we have seven pieces

我們現在不就在重拍了嗎

We have three sauces and we have veg. Veg! Veg! Veg!. I'm just gonna go straight in for a normal piece.

沒錯！現在正在重拍！

I'm gonna dip mine in salt, I always like mine in salt. It is my favorite as well!

在這種餐廳吃飯最難過的就是

(overlapping salt conversation)

就是看到肉只剩下沒幾片

Now I know what you're thinking, you're thinking, is this gonna be on the final exam?

這個一定會超級無敵好吃

Well, the answer is yes, of course it is. The shabu-shabu was delicious but having it in a steak is my favourite way

我們要用煮過菜、肉剩下來的高湯

Having the softness in the middle with that crunch on the outside. There's so much

來煮蛋和菜（哇！還有蛋！）

Flavor in there it almost tastes like you're eating a whole hamburger in one little bite. Like it's got the crispy grill

這一定會超好吃

(Yeah) but it's got the buttery oil on the inside (oh my god!)

所有的美味都會被吸收進去

And the taste of the beef is... it's almost sweet. Kobe beef has its own

像是日式意大利燉飯

Scientifically proven unique taste in which the leanest of the meat is very sweet and the fats have a higher concentration

最後來吃吸飽神戶牛肉汁的米飯

Of different kinds of acids like oleic acid and whatnot. You won't have this flavor in other kinds of beef at all

我個人覺得這是極度健康的一餐

It's difficult to explain to you because we've all had beef at some point

本來以為會吃堆肉、沒有青菜

But to say that this tastes different people are kind of like, but does it? And we're going, yes it does!

然後就會永遠不能便便

It's like nothing you've ever tried before. So different, it's so tremendous.

這餐實在太均衡了

How are you having it next? I'm having some veg in the middle. In an attempt to like slow it down?

豆腐啊，健康食材啊什麼的

Just slow it down. I only have six pieces left

饒了我吧！日本！

Look at this

你確定我們真的不能用湯匙嗎

And the award for the Youtubers who have eaten the most Kobe beef go to...

就像雞湯麵

Simon and Martina!

這個是牛肉湯飯

Oh my god, I can't believe this is happening!

吃起來好暖心、舒服

Thank you mama! You're the real MVP!

而且沒有牛肉的腥臭味

I'd like to thank - I have such a long list - I'd like to thank uh, the Tajima cow

這個的牛肉味其實不重

Yes, um, I'd like to thank the - the Kobe Beef Association

因為神戶牛肉本身其實很濃郁、很甜

For being so so thorough with your certification. Kobe City! Kobe City, I love you, I wanna thank all of Japan

跟雞蛋搭起來，絕配！

I wanna thank - I wanna thank the chef

（目前我們也有出口神戶牛到美國）

No, no don't cut me off I'm not fi-

（神戸肉流通推進協議会認可了一些餐廳）

But for real this statue is only given to restaurants that have

（跟賣真正神戶牛的批發商）

Authentic certified Kobe beef but this is a real deal

（目前美國共有43位成員）

This is more honorable than any Oscar or Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize for Oscars.