There seemed to be increasing speculation about how open and honest the Chinese authorities really are being with a number of people in and outside of China saying, Look, we think the real numbers are much higher, what's your sense of how accurate they probably really are, where there is a fog of war, so to speak on this, there's no doubt when you look at some of the reporting and speak to people were here for the SARS outbreak back in 2000 and two, so that's nearly 18 years ago that it is very different to that.