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  • - Picking this lock too?

  • Oh my God.

  • Only in a video game

  • would you see this, trust me.

  • (smooth jazz)

  • - My name is Micheal Franzese and I am

  • a former Capo, Capo regime in the Colombo

  • crime family, one of the five New York Mafia families.

  • I was born in Brooklyn, raised there for many many years

  • and moved out to the coast here,

  • I'm in Los Angles now.

  • I'm with my wife, and bunch of kids and kinda changed

  • the direction of my life but, I was part of

  • that life for over 25 years.

  • I did some time in prison, was indicted

  • several times, arrested more times than I can remember.

  • Somehow managed to get through it all

  • and here I am now today.

  • I came into that life at an early age.

  • I was 24 years old when I was inducted into

  • the family in a very solemn ceremony

  • Halloween night 1975.

  • I was made with five other guys, that's the

  • term we use, "made."

  • My father was a heavyweight in that life,

  • he was the under boss of the

  • Colombo family back in the 60's.

  • My dad, unfortunately, drew a 50 year prison sentence.

  • He was convicted of masterminding

  • a nationwide string of bank robberies.

  • Went to trial, was convicted, and got a

  • 50 year prison sentence.

  • So he had a powerful influence on me,

  • I got involved with that life to try and help

  • my father get out of that prison sentence,

  • and then I got deeply involved myself.

  • I came in as a soldier,

  • I was elevated to the position of capo "captain,"

  • capo regime, and at one point in time they were slating me

  • to become the boss of that family.

  • So went on to make a very significant amount of money.

  • I devised a scheme to defraud the government

  • out of tax in every gallon of gasoline,

  • ran that scheme for over eight years

  • and at one point in time I was

  • bringing in close to eight million dollars

  • a week and became a major,

  • major target of law enforcement.

  • I was indicted actually five times.

  • I had two federal racketeering cases,

  • one brought on by Rudy Giuliani.

  • The trial that I was acquitted in actually.

  • But then in 1985 I was indicted on another major

  • racketeering case by the feds.

  • 10 year prison sentence,

  • I had a 15 million dollar restitution,

  • I'd fallen in love with a young girl

  • who was actually a dancer in a film

  • that I was involved in.

  • Married her and wanted to kinda change my life.

  • So I took the plea as a result of that.

  • I did eight years on that 10,

  • which was the maximum, came out

  • and kinda turned my life around.

  • I'm now a public speaker, I've written several books.

  • I've heard of these Mafia games because

  • I've been asked to get involved in them in some way

  • and never really paid too much attention to it.

  • My wife would think I lost my mind if

  • I start playing video games, but actually

  • my boys said "dad you should get involved

  • its fun," you know, they want me to

  • play a few times but I just never did it.

  • But I heard of them for sure.

  • Well there's probably a lot of things in video games that

  • you can't really do in real life.

  • I don't know, I'm about to find out.

  • - Obviously we're in Manhattan, my old stomping grounds.

  • Grew up in Brooklyn but, obviously

  • spent a lot of time in Manhattan.

  • - [Vito] I don't really remember much about my old country.

  • And then one day, my father decided

  • it was time to move away.

  • - My grandparents came over a little earlier than

  • that actually, I think 1910,

  • my grandparents first came here.

  • My father was actually, he was born in April

  • on a boat trip that my grandparents went back.

  • He was born there, they stayed there for

  • about six months, and then came back to the states.

  • It's funny, he got in trouble, he was a naturalized

  • citizen otherwise they would've deported him.

  • The way the Mafia started to form here

  • in America Unfortunately you know some of

  • the street guys were doin' exactly this.

  • They were feeding off of their own kind.

  • Yeah, it's somewhat realistic, yeah,

  • I mean this is how it started out, kinda

  • preying on there own kind.

  • And then it got a bit more sophisticated.

  • - Load this pile of crates onto that truck.

  • Start now and don't take all day.

  • - They got the dialouge right huh?

  • These guys must still be from Brooklyn.

  • You know mob guys don't usually do honest

  • work when they're in the mob, that's for sure.

  • Well they may do some but it's always in connection

  • to something illegal that they're doing.

  • - When I said I needed a job

  • I didn't mean slave labor.

  • - Whatever.

  • - I can make a hundred times more

  • working for Barbaro Incorporated.

  • - Wait, you said Barbaro? Joe Barbaro?

  • - You know Joe Barbara was a real guy by the way.

  • You ever here of Appalachia?

  • Back in the 1950s there was a meeting of all

  • the major mob guys from all over the country.

  • It was in Appalachia, New York.

  • Law enforcement got wind of it,

  • it was a lot of guys there and

  • they actually kind of invaded the place.

  • Everybody ran away, they locked up

  • a whole bunch of guys.

  • It was the last time that a major meeting

  • of mob guys from around the country

  • ever happened as a result to that.

  • - So you won't mind if I give Joe a call, right?

  • - So would he be calling a guy on

  • the phone to ask about that?

  • I don't know, I doubt it, we didn't use phone

  • calls for situations like that.

  • You probably say you know I'll go and meet the guy,

  • you know I'll find out, come back tomorrow,

  • I'll let you know.

  • And you better be telling the truth 'cause

  • if you're not, you're gonna be in trouble.

  • 'Ya didn't wanna use somebody's name

  • back in the day.

  • That would get you in trouble.

  • Even if you knew somebody and you used

  • his name without them knowing about it,

  • you'd be in trouble.

  • I was in a bar that my father had

  • something to do with, I was younger.

  • And there was a guy at the bar that was

  • bothering one of the waitresses.

  • And so the owner came over to me and said,

  • "Mike can you talk to this guy,

  • cause he's gettin' a little bit out of control,

  • bein' a little out of hand."

  • And I said, okay.

  • So I went over to him and I said

  • "Hey, why don't you leave the girl alone,

  • she don't wanna be bothered, you're gettin'

  • a little out of hand."

  • And he looked at me and he said

  • "You know who I am?"

  • The worst line you could ever say

  • to somebody in that life.

  • And I said "no, tell me who you are."

  • He says, "You know who owns this place?"

  • I said "nah, tell me who owns it."

  • He said "guy by the name of Sonny Franzese."

  • I said "Really?"

  • He said "Yeah," he said "Lemme tell ya' this."

  • He said "Sonny's doing time right now,

  • he's away, but I make one phone call

  • and I'll have his son Michael down

  • here in five minutes."

  • And he's talkin' to me, okay?

  • So needless to say I said, "I'll tell you what,

  • come in the back, since you mentioned

  • such a strong name, I wanna talk to you," ya' know.

  • We took him in the back and I guarantee you,

  • this guy never would mention somebody's name again.

  • That was commonplace in New York.

  • People mention other people's names all the time.

  • Get in trouble.

  • So he's a collector.

  • So in other words, you'd Shylock

  • money on the street, and he's collecting, common job.

  • When I was a captain, I had a lot of guys around me.

  • I used to give the money to them at one or two

  • points a week, and they in turn

  • would lend it out.

  • You know, and add another point or two

  • for themselves so they could make some money,

  • because we had a lot of guys around us

  • that couldn't earn five cents,

  • if we didn't help them, ya' know,

  • give them something, they wouldn't have any money.

  • So, but everybody any mob guy that has

  • any kind of money, he's always

  • putting it out on the street.

  • When I went to prison, I had about

  • a million dollars on the street.

  • I was collecting two percent a week, so.

  • Do the math, it was a lot of money.

  • - Now get out of here before I kick your ass.

  • - Well, you know what, as soon as he said that,

  • that's what would happen.

  • (grunts)

  • (tense music)

  • - Now to be honest with you, I never,

  • usually there's no fight like that.

  • Normally it's one punch or one kick

  • and he's down, that's it, and the money comes back.

  • When a guy owes money they're not fighting back.

  • They're gonna pay because they know

  • who they owe it to.

  • And they know that if they don't pay

  • or if they do anything out of turn

  • they're gonna be in trouble.

  • You gotta remember, in that life,

  • you know, you make a mistake, you pay for it,

  • you could pay for it with your life.

  • I mean, it could be serious, so,

  • you don't see fights like that.

  • - Hey, pal.

  • Derek needs you to pay the fee for the barber.

  • - Oh, yeah, I must have forgot or something.

  • - Next time try to pay on time, okay?

  • Thanks.

  • - Now that's how it would go, normally.

  • - Hey, Derek needs you to pay the fee for the barber.

  • - Sure, here it is, I don't want no problems.

  • - Don't leave it until the last minute next time.

  • - Yeah, this is normal, boys.

  • You collect the money off all of these

  • guys that are just workers.

  • They must be gamblers.

  • - Hey pal, Derek needs you to pay the

  • fee for the barber.

  • - Gotta be a gambling debt, because

  • you wouldn't be lending money to guys like that.

  • This is not real, I gotta tell ya,

  • this is not realistic.

  • You don't see fights like this.

  • See one thing you gotta remember,

  • we didn't fight on the street.

  • If we fought it was some spontaneous thing

  • that happened in a club, or whatever.

  • Or if somebody got out of hand then

  • they didn't pay, they'd be in a hospital.

  • I mean they may as well be in a boxing ring.

  • I mean this is not realistic at all.

  • That's it, good kick, saw a lot of that.

  • A lot of this was unrealistic.

  • First of all, these are guys that,

  • they're working stiffs.

  • If money was lent to them, I'm sure it

  • wasn't a lot.

  • You lend to what you know you're gonna get paid back.

  • And when you put money out on the street,

  • guy can keep it forever as long

  • as he pays the interest.

  • That's the whole deal, you don't

  • have to pay the principle back

  • for as long as he keeps it, as long

  • as he doesn't miss an interest payment.

  • You miss a payment, you're in trouble.

  • You never see a fight over that.

  • You know, maybe the mob guy would hit

  • the guy that didn't have the money,

  • but nobody's gonna hit back.

  • That's the least traffic I ever seen in Manhattan.

  • - I need gas stamps.

  • They're worth a fortune to me now

  • because of the gas shortage.

  • - Gas stamps.

  • - Where can we get 'em?

  • - Pretty close to home for me.

  • The case that I finally got convicted on,

  • I took a plea on, was a case in which

  • I defrauded the government out of tax

  • on every gallon of gasoline.

  • I ran that operation for about eight years.

  • I had all the Russian mobsters involved

  • with me on that.

  • And at the height of my operation I had

  • 350 gas stations I either owned or operated.

  • And I had 18 companies that were licensed

  • to collect tax on every gallon of gasoline.

  • The height of my operation, we were sellin'

  • a half a billion gallons of gas a month,

  • and we were takin' down 20, 30, 40 cents a gallon.

  • Close to eight, nine million dollars a week.

  • I had my own jet plane, I had a helicopter.

  • I had houses all over the country.

  • So, I mean, I had it goin' on.

  • If you have gas, it's like having money.

  • You know, I had a terminal out in Long Island

  • in Ocean Side, and we always had three

  • or four million gallons of gas in the ground.

  • And that was like cash.

  • So the object here is, this guy Vito,

  • is supposed to go in to pass security guards.

  • Without planning this, without thinking about it,

  • without putting a crew together,

  • somehow get through the security guards,

  • in a place that he's never scoped out before,

  • cause normally you're gonna scope it out,

  • you're gonna see what's what.

  • You gotta plan something like this,

  • and then how're you gonna get into the safe?

  • He's got no tools with him, he's just

  • walkin' in there and somehow

  • magically gonna open the safe?

  • Would never happen that way.

  • I wanna see if he's gonna case it out first,

  • if he's gonna look, see how many

  • security guards there.

  • He didn't get any information whatsoever

  • on what that safe looks like,

  • what kind of safe it is.

  • So, how do you just go in there

  • and crack a safe without knowing

  • anything about it, or having any tools,

  • or figuring anything out.

  • What is he gonna do with the security guards?

  • How is he gonna get past them?

  • What is he gonna tell them?

  • Gonna sneak in a window?

  • He's driving Maria, now to the hospital.

  • - [Vito] They keep the back door open at night?

  • - [Maria] No, but the basement window

  • usually is, so --

  • - How did I call that, he was comin' in through a window.

  • Never happens.

  • How many guards are there, she didn't say.

  • What are they guarding?

  • The front, the back, are they walkin'

  • through the halls?

  • I mean, you're gonna pull a job off like this,

  • you're gonna wanna know everything

  • as in detail as you possibly can.

  • So you know what you can do

  • and what you can't do.

  • Now the problem with this, you know, also,

  • is Maria is a -- if this heist does take affect,

  • she's a potential witness.

  • See right off the bat, I can tell

  • you this is not a one man job.

  • You'd have at least two people there,

  • you know, somebody watching out for him,

  • maybe somebody trying to distract

  • the security guards.

  • It would never be a one man job.

  • Alright, well that was convenient,

  • the window was left open.

  • He's in the mens room.

  • - Alright, here's the key, now I gotta get to the safe.

  • - Find the safe and steal the stamps, okay.

  • You wouldn't count on trying to get

  • around the guard, or sneaking around,

  • you'd probably just get the guard

  • and hit 'em in the back of the head,

  • knock 'em out, and then go about your business,

  • because you don't even know where the safe is.

  • You gotta go look for it, so you can't

  • keep sneaking around from the guard.

  • You just take 'em out right away.

  • Okay, well the guy is not a safe cracker.

  • He's never done anything like this in his life,

  • but he's gonna go in there and he's gonna

  • crack a sophisticated safe.

  • No, that's not happening.

  • Now we did have people that were, ya' know,

  • safe crackers, they knew how to do this.

  • But you're not gonna tell a guy, cold,

  • to go in and crack a safe, not gonna happen.

  • Picking a lock, very difficult.

  • Again, you gotta be a locksmith,

  • you gotta have tools, you gotta

  • know what you're doin', you can't just

  • walk in there cold, and pick a lock.

  • I wish it was that easy, we would've

  • been a lot wealthier.

  • Now, he's pretty good, he got it done somehow.

  • Now this looks like a pretty secure safe.

  • It looks like it could be like

  • a bank vault almost.

  • Now how's he gonna open this.

  • Pickin' this lock, too?

  • Oh my god.

  • Only in a video game would you see this, trust me.

  • Now, first of all, he wouldn't

  • only take the stamps.

  • He'd take everything in there.

  • Alright, so the alarm went off.

  • Security guards are still roamin' around,

  • this is why you take them out.

  • There's no way that he would get out of this place.

  • No way in the world.

  • This whole scene is totally unrealistic.

  • I had somebody shoot at me once,

  • but it was a mistake.

  • I was getting out of the car at a diner

  • in Brooklyn, was three of us,

  • and a drive-by, a guy shot at us.

  • They thought we were somebody else.

  • - These stamps you took have an expiration date.

  • - You didn't say anything about any expiration date.

  • - This would blow up real bad, in real life.

  • Real bad, guy went through all that trouble,

  • I didn't here him say anything about

  • expiration dates on the stamps.

  • He almost gets himself killed, he gets in,

  • gets what he has to get, gets out,

  • hand him the thing, and then he said

  • this isn't any good.

  • That would end very badly for one of them there, trust me.

  • - What the hell is this?

  • - Crazy bastard.

  • - So this is the Irish mob and the Italian guys.

  • - What the hell are you doing here, you --

  • - They're pullin' off a heist at the same place,

  • at the same time.

  • - Fatso, this is our --

  • - Pretty unrealistic, now you gotta understand,

  • you know, back in the day, back in the 30s,

  • 20s, 30s, 40s, when things were unorganized,

  • possibly something like this coulda happened.

  • But in later days, when, you know, the families

  • were formed, and we got a lot more sophisticated,

  • something like this would never happen.

  • There would never be a major shootout in the street.

  • You know, among rival gangs, there would never be

  • cops coming all at one time.

  • This is pretty unrealistic.

  • In my day, other than the Lufthansa heist,

  • which you might have heard about.

  • It was a big, big heist in the airport

  • at the time.

  • I don't remember anything like this ever occurring.

  • In the 25 years that I was part of that life.

  • Nor did I ever hear of anything.

  • But again, you know back in the 20s, 30s, possibly,

  • but certainly not in the mafia that we know.

  • Now there's two guys, they're gonna go in against

  • an army of cops?

  • I mean, that would never happen, you know

  • these guys would be running for their lives,

  • trying to find some place to get out of there.

  • I don't think the game was very realistic.

  • It certainly was intriguinng.

  • I mean, ya' know, the graphics were amazing.

  • You can tell that, you know, whosever

  • creating these games, they don't have

  • a real knowledge of the life.

  • And that's not really knocking them

  • because unless you're an insider,

  • you don't really have knowledge of that life.

  • You wouldn't see shootouts in

  • the middle of the street,

  • you wouldn't see warring gangs going after each other.

  • It was a fun ride.

  • Realism, on a scale of one to 10,

  • I'd give it a four or five.

  • After watching this and playing this game

  • a little bit, I mean, it's so sensational,

  • so to speak.

  • I don't see how anybody can look at this game

  • and actually, you know, let it effect their

  • life to the point where they would wanna

  • go out and commit a violent act.

  • I mean, I just don't get it, to me,

  • there's no relation to that

  • whatsoever, it's a game!

  • (adventurous music)

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